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Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2...EcfljrEFW.html
Starting on October 16, two-time world champion Jose Luis Castillo (54-7-2, 47 KOs) will begin a five-week program at Velocity Sports Performance in West Los Angeles, the same group of medical/nutritional specialists that helped Erik Morales get in peak shape. Castillo said he informed promoter Fernando Beltran yesterday and both are enthused about the prospects of Castillo initiating a process of weight loss that will not leave him debilitated for his next fight, which will be in the 140lb division. Castillo is eyeing a ring return on January 6 or 13 against Vivian Harris, then if successful, a showdown with Ricky Hatton by the end of March or April. "I am excited the support that has been given to me by my promoters Bob Arum and Fernando Beltrán," said Castillo. "The truth is this opportunity that has ben given to me will not be wasted. It is a new beginning and I will be a champion of the world again." Castillo says he will begin training camp at the end of November in Temoaya, Mexico, training through the holidays and remain until six days before the fight with Harris.
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
Fuck Castillo.
Never have liked him...never will.
No respect for the rules, the game, or the other man.
Where's that douche bag photo when I need it?!?!?!
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Fuck Castillo.
Never have liked him...never will.
No respect for the rules, the game, or the other man.
Where's that douche bag photo when I need it?!?!?!
He is damn sure going to have his hands full with Harris.. I like Harris in that fight.
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Fuck Castillo.
Never have liked him...never will.
No respect for the rules, the game, or the other man.
Where's that douche bag photo when I need it?!?!?!
Hmmmm,didn't you know you did not like Castillo Wack. Any particular reason? I think he is a great fighter,but I lost respect for him after the second Corrales fight(which should not have gone ahead in my humble opinion) and the third one. However,as Joe Goossen pointed out in an interview,his camp,his management,his team should also be help responsible because surely they knew he was never going to make weight.
As a fighter though,I like him,and I respect him for taking these tough fights,maybe he is trying to make it up to the fans?
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
i respect his in ring ability
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
F*** Castillo.
Never have liked him...never will.
No respect for the rules, the game, or the other man.
Where's that douche bag photo when I need it?!?!?!
Hmmmm,didn't you know you did not like Castillo Wack. Any particular reason? I think he is a great fighter,but I lost respect for him after the second Corrales fight(which should not have gone ahead in my humble opinion) and the third one. However,as Joe Goossen pointed out in an interview,his camp,his management,his team should also be help responsible because surely they knew he was never going to make weight.
As a fighter though,I like him,and I respect him for taking these tough fights,maybe he is trying to make it up to the fans?
I got a lot of issues with him over the weight bullshit in the Corrales rematch...& then he shows up for the rubber match & pulls the same horse shit.
I'm not that big of a fan of the man in or out of the ring...just don't dig on the man.
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
i pick castillo against harris cos of his chin. castillo could take harris's power and take him to the later rounds where harris's stamina may give him problems again. but against hatton i pick hatton all the way to wear him down and stop him.
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
i think that harris or castillo takes hatton down at 140
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
i think that harris or castillo takes hatton down at 140
Naaa,even though I'm not that big a fan of Hatton,at 140,he is the man to beat,a beast and I think he will wear Castill out. Plus,it's only a matter of time before the wars catch up to JLC,he's 32 isnt he? I just think Hatton's pressure/tactics will be too much for him! I think JLC beats Harris though but as for Harris Hatton,I don't think anyone beats Hatton at 140 at the moment.
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
i think that harris or castillo takes hatton down at 140
Naaa,even though I'm not that big a fan of Hatton,at 140,he is the man to beat,a beast and I think he will wear Castill out. Plus,it's only a matter of time before the wars catch up to JLC,he's 32 isnt he? I just think Hatton's pressure/tactics will be too much for him! I think JLC beats Harris though but as for Harris Hatton,I don't think anyone beats Hatton at 140 at the moment.
i think that vivian is vastly underrated because he decided to be an idiot one night and ko a guy (maussa) inside of 4 rounds to make a statement to pbf
we all know he lost, but if there were a rematch, harris all day long. and harris was the buzz of that weight class going into that fight, and looked back to his old self in his last fight.
its probably gonna be castillo/hatton, but jlc's gonna come into a fight where he isnt so weight drained for the first time in a while.
i bet he weighs in at the 140 limit, then comes in at 148ish.
hes gonna knock hatton out.............i cant wait to see the odds on this fight, cause im gonna make some money
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
Like I said in an earlier thread, I see Castillo maybe even having some problems making 140. Look at the last weighin for the third where he weighed 139.5 and looked like death. He needs to do something different in his conditioning.
Anyway, I was upset about what happened but he's such an entertaining fighter I can get over it, I think he grinds down Harris and takes him out in about 10.
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
Actually the more that I think about it Castillo deserves some credit if he fights Vivian in his first fight at 140 after a long layoff, most fighters if they move up take an easy one in their first one.
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
If hatton-castillo happens the focus level of castillo will mean alot.........he needs to take this fight very seriously beacause there he aint going back to lightweight! and hatton is the man to beat at 140! if castillo loses to hatton i think its game over castillo
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
I agree,JLC deserves credit for his willingness to take on the best,no warm ups etc. I disagree with you Tam,I don't think it'll be the end of Castillo unless it's a savage beating. I think JLC is so big,he could easily make 147 which would be awesome too!
Frozen,I do not see JLC koing Hatton,I just don't see it.How?
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I agree,JLC deserves credit for his willingness to take on the best,no warm ups etc. I disagree with you Tam,I don't think it'll be the end of Castillo unless it's a savage beating. I think JLC is so big,he could easily make 147 which would be awesome too!
Frozen,I do not see JLC koing Hatton,I just don't see it.How?
well when you think about it, he loses to hatton at 140...........hatton beats every1 at 140 whats castillos job? picking up hattons 2nds? really do think that he wont have much else in the tank if he gets another L on his record. him being 32 makes him one of the oldest in the devison?
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I agree,JLC deserves credit for his willingness to take on the best,no warm ups etc. I disagree with you Tam,I don't think it'll be the end of Castillo unless it's a savage beating. I think JLC is so big,he could easily make 147 which would be awesome too!
Frozen,I do not see JLC koing Hatton,I just don't see it.How?
im going by how jlc looked in the castillo/corrales 2 fight, and how hatton looked against collazo (even though it was at 147, hatton looked pretty bad skillwise.........let alone physically)
this is a very bad matchup for hatton, stylistically, and jlc is a bad man.
rickys a good guy and a great fighter, but this is one fight that i feel is going to make him look pretty bad :-\
hopefully im wrong, though. because a victory over jlc would put hatton into elite status
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I agree,JLC deserves credit for his willingness to take on the best,no warm ups etc. I disagree with you Tam,I don't think it'll be the end of Castillo unless it's a savage beating. I think JLC is so big,he could easily make 147 which would be awesome too!
Frozen,I do not see JLC koing Hatton,I just don't see it.How?
well when you think about it, he loses to hatton at 140...........hatton beats every1 at 140 whats castillos job? picking up hattons 2nds? really do think that he wont have much else in the tank if he gets another L on his record. him being 32 makes him one of the oldest in the devison?
True,which is why I said he could move to 147,although as you point out,retirement may very well be more likely.
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I agree,JLC deserves credit for his willingness to take on the best,no warm ups etc. I disagree with you Tam,I don't think it'll be the end of Castillo unless it's a savage beating. I think JLC is so big,he could easily make 147 which would be awesome too!
Frozen,I do not see JLC koing Hatton,I just don't see it.How?
im going by how jlc looked in the castillo/corrales 2 fight, and how hatton looked against collazo (even though it was at 147, hatton looked pretty bad skillwise.........let alone physically)
this is a very bad matchup for hatton, stylistically, and jlc is a bad man.
rickys a good guy and a great fighter, but this is one fight that i feel is going to make him look pretty bad :-\
hopefully im wrong, though. because a victory over jlc would put hatton into elite status
You have to remember,Hatton only had 7 weeks to prepare for that fight. He will be much better prepared for JLC. Dam right Castillo is a bad bad man BUT Hatton is younger,stronger,maybe faster,has a good good chin and throw in rough house tactics and I think he wins. Hatton does not hit as hard as Corrales but his pressure levels are VERY VERY high,he can just overwhelm you,I'm not saying that will happen to Castillo but I feel Hatton has too much energy for him. In fac,I feel pretty confident in saying Ricky would win.
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I agree,JLC deserves credit for his willingness to take on the best,no warm ups etc. I disagree with you Tam,I don't think it'll be the end of Castillo unless it's a savage beating. I think JLC is so big,he could easily make 147 which would be awesome too!
Frozen,I do not see JLC koing Hatton,I just don't see it.How?
well when you think about it, he loses to hatton at 140...........hatton beats every1 at 140 whats castillos job? picking up hattons 2nds? really do think that he wont have much else in the tank if he gets another L on his record. him being 32 makes him one of the oldest in the devison?
True,which is why I said he could move to 147,although as you point out,retirement may very well be more likely.
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I agree,JLC deserves credit for his willingness to take on the best,no warm ups etc. I disagree with you Tam,I don't think it'll be the end of Castillo unless it's a savage beating. I think JLC is so big,he could easily make 147 which would be awesome too!
Frozen,I do not see JLC koing Hatton,I just don't see it.How?
im going by how jlc looked in the castillo/corrales 2 fight, and how hatton looked against collazo (even though it was at 147, hatton looked pretty bad skillwise.........let alone physically)
this is a very bad matchup for hatton, stylistically, and jlc is a bad man.
rickys a good guy and a great fighter, but this is one fight that i feel is going to make him look pretty bad :-\
hopefully im wrong, though. because a victory over jlc would put hatton into elite status
You have to remember,Hatton only had 7 weeks to prepare for that fight. He will be much better prepared for JLC. Dam right Castillo is a bad bad man BUT Hatton is younger,stronger,maybe faster,has a good good chin and throw in rough house tactics and I think he wins. Hatton does not hit as hard as Corrales but his pressure levels are VERY VERY high,he can just overwhelm you,I'm not saying that will happen to Castillo but I feel Hatton has too much energy for him. In fac,I feel pretty confident in saying Ricky would win.
castillo at 147................. ??? how wud that go down? i rekon i can paint a better picture if i see how good he is at 140! if hatton beats him or nearly beats him 147 will be VERY HARD for castillo
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
Well JLC could and at this point should pick his fights carefully,only the best,but you are 100% correct,I'd like to see him at 140 first although it's not as if making 147 would be hard for ;D him!
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
F*** Castillo.
Never have liked him...never will.
No respect for the rules, the game, or the other man.
Where's that douche bag photo when I need it?!?!?!
i dont like the guy i mean when you got a big money rubber match going down you have to make wieght..
thats pretty much disrespect and stupidity...
but im still glad of the news i think hes a good fighter and there needs to be as many big names out there as possible right now.
i dont like the thought of there bieng no genuine challengers at 140 especially now hatton is at 140 again..
i hope corralles moves up too
there could be some good fights at 140 for ppl like hatton castillo coralles mallignagi
peace
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Well JLC could and at this point should pick his fights carefully,only the best,but you are 100% correct,I'd like to see him at 140 first although it's not as if making 147 would be hard for ;D him!
I personally think castillo is in a really bad position.......he is getting old and by dominating the 140 if he beats hatton does that prove much? i personally think 147 will be a bit to much for him! if only he could make the weight for lightweight wud be so much easier
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
Don't like the circumstances of his last fight. But a lot are to blame.
Not just himself or his trainers or etc etc, wasn't the commission supposed to be doing monthly checks on him and his weight and etc? They failed as well.
You can't put the blame solely on Castillo's shoulders, its everyone around him that failed, and his trainers and nutritionists and everyone else that failed him. And I don't think he came in overweight on purpose. I think it was just the whole situation and it wasn't just Castillo's fault, it was everyone around him too.
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Well JLC could and at this point should pick his fights carefully,only the best,but you are 100% correct,I'd like to see him at 140 first although it's not as if making 147 would be hard for ;D him!
I personally think castillo is in a really bad position.......he is getting old and by dominating the 140
if he beats hatton does that prove much? i personally think 147 will be a bit to much for him! if only he could make the weight for lightweight wud be so much easier
it would mean that castillo is the best jr. welterweight on the planet.
he makes a few defences at 140, then he sets up a mega fight at 147 after a solid year of being the linear junior welterweight champion.
more money
more glory
seems like a good decision to me ;)
but thats IF he beats hatton, or even harris for that matter :P
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
Personally that bast*rd Castillo weighed in on that weight on purpose.
He didn't want to lose muscle and wanted to come in great shape.
Didn't want to weaken himself so that he could get TKO'd by Diego again.
3 weeks before the fight are enough to prepare for the weight loss.
He's too big for 135 lbs and barely makes 140lbs. He barely made 140 last time.
Why not move to 147 and save everybody the problem of
worring about his laziness and irresponsiblities.
I'm this harsh for good reason. Castillo and camp had an unfair advantage in
the rematch AND tried to cheat at the scales to give Diego another beating!!!
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
For me the most deciding factor in the Hatton Castill fight will be the venue. If it's held in Manchester Ricky will just need to survive the full 12 rounds to win a decision, as we saw with Clinton Woods against Johnson last month.
If it happens stateside however I see Castillo dominating Ricky.
I love Ricky as a fighter and a proud fellow Brit, but he just isn't in the elite class in my opinion, Castillo's power, ring experience and toughness will prove too much if they fight in America.
The British fans might just be able to yell and cheer their boy Ricky across the line if it's MEN Arena though, think Bruno against Oliver McCall at Wembley Stadium ;)
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
Anybody who humiliates Kostya Tsyu's legacy by making him quit on
his stool and end his winning streak is an Elite Fighter. I favor Castillo
though. Only because I've never seen Castillo lose a brawl, aside from
that miracle that Diego Corrales seemed to pull out of thin air.
At 140lbs, Hatton has a better chance.
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Anybody who humiliates Kostya Tsyu's legacy by making him quit on
his stool and end his winning streak is an Elite Fighter. I favor Castillo
though. Only because I've never seen Castillo lose a brawl, aside from
that miracle that Diego Corrales seemed to pull out of thin air.
At 140lbs, Hatton has a better chance.
Remember Kosta had only fought 3 times in 3 and a half years, and was 35 years old. Great performance by Ricky but Castillo will be a harder test in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by bilbo
For me the most deciding factor in the Hatton Castill fight will be the venue. If it's held in Manchester Ricky will just need to survive the full 12 rounds to win a decision, as we saw with Clinton Woods against Johnson last month.
If it happens stateside however I see Castillo dominating Ricky.
I love Ricky as a fighter and a proud fellow Brit, but he just isn't in the elite class in my opinion, Castillo's power, ring experience and toughness will prove too much if they fight in America.
The British fans might just be able to yell and cheer their boy Ricky across the line if it's MEN Arena though, think Bruno against Oliver McCall at Wembley Stadium ;)
Hah yeah Bruno over McCall, what a spectacular win ;D ::** It was almost painful to realize that the guy who had been beaten and battered, looking like he wanted to cry, had just won the belt.
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
Castillo will Beat Hatton if they fight i'm sure
i think Castillo moves faster is more accurate and will be very strong at 140 ..i also think the weight fluxuation yo-yo program Hattons on is making him stale
besides i wanna see Mayweather beat Hatton while both are still undefeated !!
"Floyds as sweet as candy ,yanky doodle dandee" ;)
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Anybody who humiliates Kostya Tsyu's legacy by making him quit on
his stool and end his winning streak is an Elite Fighter. I favor Castillo
though. Only because I've never seen Castillo lose a brawl, aside from
that miracle that Diego Corrales seemed to pull out of thin air.
At 140lbs, Hatton has a better chance.
Remember Kosta had only fought 3 times in 3 and a half years, and was 35 years old. Great performance by Ricky but Castillo will be a harder test in my opinion.
Hatton did what an elite fighter was supposed to do. He defeated the champion.
Now people are saying it was because 3 blah blah 3 and blah 35 years blah. heh
You have to give Hatton more respect than that.
Jermain Taylor is a Perfect example, he dealt with an OLD champion who wasn't
active, by the name of Bernard Hopkins. By all the facts on record, Taylor
should have embarrased Hopkins much like Hatton did to the future Hall of Famer
Kostya. Now I'm not saying Kostya is as good or great as Hopkins, I'm just
saying that age and activity can take a back seat when your still winning
and fighting successfully. Even though Kostya lost, he still fought a competitive
fight and his punching power was still present. No one still has been able
to embarrass Sharmba Mitchell as badly as Tszyu has.
But both Bernard and Kostya have on thing in common, they both eat right,
don't party, and stick to a strict, disciplined, and rough training schedule.
You just can't ignore Hatton's win over Kostya, as an elite performance.
Never!
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Anybody who humiliates Kostya Tsyu's legacy by making him quit on
his stool and end his winning streak is an Elite Fighter. I favor Castillo
though. Only because I've never seen Castillo lose a brawl, aside from
that miracle that Diego Corrales seemed to pull out of thin air.
At 140lbs, Hatton has a better chance.
Remember Kosta had only fought 3 times in 3 and a half years, and was 35 years old. Great performance by Ricky but Castillo will be a harder test in my opinion.
Hatton did what an elite fighter was supposed to do. He defeated the champion.
Now people are saying it was because 3 blah blah 3 and blah 35 years blah. heh
You have to give Hatton more respect than that.
Jermain Taylor is a Perfect example, he dealt with an OLD champion who wasn't
active, by the name of Bernard Hopkins. By all the facts on record, Taylor
should have embarrased Hopkins much like Hatton did to the future Hall of Famer
Kostya. Now I'm not saying Kostya is as good or great as Hopkins, I'm just
saying that age and activity can take a back seat when your still winning
and fighting successfully. Even though Kostya lost, he still fought a competitive
fight and his punching power was still present. No one still has been able
to embarrass Sharmba Mitchell as badly as Tszyu has.
But both Bernard and Kostya have on thing in common, they both eat right,
don't party, and stick to a strict, disciplined, and rough training schedule.
You just can't ignore Hatton's win over Kostya, as an elite performance.
Never!
I hate to play devil's advocate, but was Vince Phillips win over KOsta an elite performance?? Even if so, did he turn out to be an elite fighter? I think it had a whole lot to do with styles as well, KOsta was excellent vs boxers who like to move and fight from the outside, but he wasn't nearly as effective against brawlers. THat's why I think Hatton still has yet to prove that he is elite, just as Vince Phillips didn't.
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If I have to argue this long... forgettaboutit!!!!! 8)
Believe what you believe!!! hahaha Hatton Kostya was a great performance.
And I'm not going to go into the little iddy iddy bitty details, all you have to do is watch the fight!
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Anybody who humiliates Kostya Tsyu's legacy by making him quit on
his stool and end his winning streak is an Elite Fighter. I favor Castillo
though. Only because I've never seen Castillo lose a brawl, aside from
that miracle that Diego Corrales seemed to pull out of thin air.
At 140lbs, Hatton has a better chance.
Out of his mouth, more like it, when he repeatedly cheated by spitting out his mouthpiece to extend the count, grab time and avoid the KO. I can't stand by what Castillo did the second and third times w/r/t weight, but I also find it very hard to sympathize with Corrales because he definitely should have been DQ'd in the first fight. Had Corrales not cheated, there was absolutely no way he would have avoided getting KTFO.
Definitely take Castillo over Hatton and Harris.
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
If I have to argue this long... forgettaboutit!!!!! 8)
Believe what you believe!!! hahaha Hatton Kostya was a great performance.
And I'm not going to go into the little iddy iddy bitty details, all you have to do is watch the fight!
I've seen the fight, and I wouldn't call Hatton's performance "great" by a longshot. I had Hatton up by one round (two wouldn't be crazy) at the time Tszyu threw in the towel. Kostya did not look great, and it came out afterward that he fought the whole fight with a shoulder injury which required major surgery soon after. Obviously, Hatton could only fight the guy in front of him, and he fought the right tactical fight to do that (though IMO, he should have been given warnings and then possibly multiple point deductions for all the holding and hitting and leading with the forehead--which would have actually put Tszyu ahead on my card). But it wasn't a top-form Tszyu, and a fairly dirty victory over a less-than-top Tszyu does not an elite fighter make.
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Anybody who humiliates Kostya Tsyu's legacy by making him quit on
his stool and end his winning streak is an Elite Fighter. I favor Castillo
though. Only because I've never seen Castillo lose a brawl, aside from
that miracle that Diego Corrales seemed to pull out of thin air.
At 140lbs, Hatton has a better chance.
Out of his mouth, more like it, when he repeatedly cheated by spitting out his mouthpiece to extend the count, grab time and avoid the KO. I can't stand by what Castillo did the second and third times w/r/t weight, but I also find it very hard to sympathize with Corrales because he definitely should have been DQ'd in the first fight. Had Corrales not cheated, there was absolutely no way he would have avoided getting KTFO.
Definitely take Castillo over Hatton and Harris.
Yes that was cheating. heheh And thanks for the chuckle.
But there is a difference to cheating at the moment AND
having a camp and not preparing for 3 weeks purposely not make weight.
One is at the moment, the other is planned.
Hell I would have done the same thing to not get KTFO! haha
Anything to win! hahaha
Naw, all kidding aside, it doesn't even compare. Planning to come in overweight twice!
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
If I have to argue this long... forgettaboutit!!!!! 8)
Believe what you believe!!! hahaha Hatton Kostya was a great performance.
And I'm not going to go into the little iddy iddy bitty details, all you have to do is watch the fight!
I've seen the fight, and I wouldn't call Hatton's performance "great" by a longshot. I had Hatton up by one round (two wouldn't be crazy) at the time Tszyu threw in the towel. Kostya did not look great, and it came out afterward that he fought the whole fight with a shoulder injury which required major surgery soon after. Obviously, Hatton could only fight the guy in front of him, and he fought the right tactical fight to do that (though IMO, he should have been given warnings and then possibly multiple point deductions for all the holding and hitting and leading with the forehead--which would have actually put Tszyu ahead on my card). But it wasn't a top-form Tszyu, and a fairly dirty victory over a less-than-top Tszyu does not an elite fighter make.
CC man.
This whole argument started because I say that Hatton is elite.
Sure I'd pick Castillo over him, BUT Hatton is still elite.
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Anybody who humiliates Kostya Tsyu's legacy by making him quit on
his stool and end his winning streak is an Elite Fighter. I favor Castillo
though. Only because I've never seen Castillo lose a brawl, aside from
that miracle that Diego Corrales seemed to pull out of thin air.
At 140lbs, Hatton has a better chance.
Out of his mouth, more like it, when he repeatedly cheated by spitting out his mouthpiece to extend the count, grab time and avoid the KO. I can't stand by what Castillo did the second and third times w/r/t weight, but I also find it very hard to sympathize with Corrales because he definitely should have been DQ'd in the first fight. Had Corrales not cheated, there was absolutely no way he would have avoided getting KTFO.
Definitely take Castillo over Hatton and Harris.
Yes that was cheating. heheh And thanks for the chuckle.
But there is a difference to cheating at the moment AND
having a camp and not preparing for 3 weeks purposely not make weight.
One is at the moment, the other is planned.
Hell I would have done the same thing to not get KTFO! haha
Anything to win! hahaha
Naw, all kidding aside, it doesn't even compare. Planning to come in overweight twice!
I'm not saying it's equivalent. The fact that Castillo did it two fights in a row is enough to make it worse from his end. All I'm saying is I don't feel sorry for Corrales like I would if Castillo did this to anyone else out there.
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by shza
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If I have to argue this long... forgettaboutit!!!!! 8)
Believe what you believe!!! hahaha Hatton Kostya was a great performance.
And I'm not going to go into the little iddy iddy bitty details, all you have to do is watch the fight!
I've seen the fight, and I wouldn't call Hatton's performance "great" by a longshot. I had Hatton up by one round (two wouldn't be crazy) at the time Tszyu threw in the towel. Kostya did not look great, and it came out afterward that he fought the whole fight with a shoulder injury which required major surgery soon after. Obviously, Hatton could only fight the guy in front of him, and he fought the right tactical fight to do that (though IMO, he should have been given warnings and then possibly multiple point deductions for all the holding and hitting and leading with the forehead--which would have actually put Tszyu ahead on my card). But it wasn't a top-form Tszyu, and a fairly dirty victory over a less-than-top Tszyu does not an elite fighter make.
CC man.
This whole argument started because I say that Hatton is elite.
Sure I'd pick Castillo over him, BUT Hatton is still elite.
CC back. For me, Hatton has yet to reach elite status, but could do so with a great performance against Castillo--wouldn't even necessarily need to win (which I agree he probably won't).
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Re: Castillo preparing for comeback!(Harris first,then Hatton)
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
If I have to argue this long... forgettaboutit!!!!! 8)
Believe what you believe!!! hahaha Hatton Kostya was a great performance.
And I'm not going to go into the little iddy iddy bitty details, all you have to do is watch the fight!
I've seen the fight, and I wouldn't call Hatton's performance "great" by a longshot. I had Hatton up by one round (two wouldn't be crazy) at the time Tszyu threw in the towel. Kostya did not look great, and it came out afterward that he fought the whole fight with a shoulder injury which required major surgery soon after. Obviously, Hatton could only fight the guy in front of him, and he fought the right tactical fight to do that (though IMO, he should have been given warnings and then possibly multiple point deductions for all the holding and hitting and leading with the forehead--which would have actually put Tszyu ahead on my card). But it wasn't a top-form Tszyu, and a fairly dirty victory over a less-than-top Tszyu does not an elite fighter make.
CC man.
This whole argument started because I say that Hatton is elite.
Sure I'd pick Castillo over him, BUT Hatton is still elite.
CC back. For me, Hatton has yet to reach elite status, but could do so with a great performance against Castillo--wouldn't even necessarily need to win (which I agree he probably won't).
If Hatton Castillo happens.... awesome fight.... but if it happens
and Hatton gets blown away in one round, hehehh
I'll be like, "Oops." :-[
