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If you could build the perfect fighter what would the breakdown be. I have to go with
Speed- Meldric Taylor
Power- Mike Tyson
Tactics/ring generalship- Sugar Ray Leonard
Chin- Mayorga (In his prime)
Defense- Pernell Whitaker
psych warfare- Muhammed Ali
Conditioning- Floyd Mayweather
I think that would build the perfect boxer.
Speed- Zab JudahQuote:
Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
Power- George Foreman
Tactics/ring generalship- Sugar Ray Robinson
Chin- George Chuvalo
Defense- Winky Wright
psych warfare- James Toney
Conditioning- Ricky Hatton
That would be my picks
That's a bloody good list, I should have put Robinson above Leonard.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Thanks bro, it'd be cool if we could put our fighters against each other, lol. CC this is a cool thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
Whoever puts Ruiz in any one of these categories should be executed.
Speed- Audley Harrison
Power- Pernell Whitaker
Tactics/ring generalship- John Ruiz
Chin- Zab Judah
Defense- Arturo Gatti
psych warfare- Sam Peter
Conditioning- Butterbean
Here's my worst boxer
I agee with everything exceptQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Defense- Ricardo Mayorga
At Heavyweight:
Speed: Muhammad Ali
Power: George Foreman
Defence: Jack Johnson
Aggression: Mike Tyson
Meanness: Jack Dempsey
Conditioning: Rocky Marciano
Chin: Muhammad Ali
Guts: These are all brave guys.
Technique: Gene Tunney
Jab: Sonny Liston
Combinations: Joe Louis
P4P:
Speed: Jimmy Wilde
Power: Still Big George
Defence: Willie Pep
Meanness: Stanley Ketchell
Conditioning: Rocky Marciano
Chin: Julio Caesar Chavez
Guts: These are all brave guys too.
Technique: Sot Chitalada
Jab: Tommy Hearns
Combinations: Ray Robinson
The worst:
Speed: The Quiet Man
Power: Jonathan Ruiz
Defence: Ruiz, J
Aggression: That latino heavyweight guy
Meanness: The guy that clutched everyone
Conditioning: The one with the lawsuits
Chin: um, let me think.....
Guts: Even he is still a brave guy to get in the ring professionally.
Technique: Definitely that guy Ruiz
Jab: Hmmn
Combinations: Yep, good ole John again
Terry Norris with Holyfields chin and Mayweather's mindset determination and dedication to the sport and there you have a perfect fighter.
I think his fighter would whip yours ;D Taylor was faster than Judah, Whittaker was definetly defensively better than Winky, Wright wouldn't dream of telling you differntly himself. Ali and Mayweather are also superior picks to Toney and Hatton imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
My p4p fighter would go...
Speed: Meldrick Taylor
Power: Julian Jackson
tactics/generalship- Joe Louis/Ray Robinson
Chin- Marion Wilson
Defense- Whittaker
Psych- Ali
Conditioning- Ali
Jab- Whittaker
Right hand-Hearns
Left hook- Tommy Morrison
uppercut-Tyson
footwork- Whittaker
a 6'2 1/2 210lbs Floyd Mayweather jr ;D
Speed- Tommy Hearns
Power- Bob Foster
Tactics/ring generalship- Joe Louis
Chin- Chris Eubank
Defense- Floyd Mayweather
Psych warfare- Chris Eubank
Conditioning- Henry Armstrong
Have you never heard of Herol Graham ???Quote:
Originally Posted by WWatt
Only seen him get blasted out by Julian JAckson and spit 6 teeth in the air. But I've heard he was pretty untouchable in his primeQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Seriously, it looked like a scene in a cartoon short when he spit out his teeth, it's like he had a mouth full of teeth and he decided he'd spit them out. He may have been out from the punch but he was still there long enough to spit a fountain of teeth out...almost as if he was intending to do a mortal kombat fatality move on Jackson and it backfired ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
speed = sugar ray robison
power = george foreman
defence = winky wright
reflexes = roy jones
footwork = ali
straights = tommy hearns
chin = marvin hagler
stamina = ali
jab = larry holmes
workrate = aaron pryor
headmovement = mike tyson
hooks = joe fraizer
body work = ricky hatton
inside fighting = riddick bowe
muscles = evander holyfield
slickness = willie pep
uppercuts = buster douglas
Speed- Ray Leonard.
Power- Mike Tyson.
Tactic-LaMotta/Marciano.
Defense- Pernell Whitaker.
psych warfare- Muhammed Ali.
Conditioning- Rocky Marciano.
Footwork-Muhammed Ali.
Reflexes- RJJ.
Winky Wright with Tito Trinidad's punching power, well at least for a middleweight.
Mike Tyson with Rocky Marciano's heart/determination ..................
:coolclick: mate that sounds like the PERFECT HW!Quote:
Originally Posted by Humble
so this is my perfect fighter ..... im gona make him a heavywieght becuase with all such attributes etc a heavywieght that owned all this would be unbeatable at a wieght where all great fighters have huge skills
and huge weaknesses give and take, so one with it all going for him would be unbeatable. bear in mind these attributes are based on p4p opinion example: tito would be my power pick... if it was carried perfectly 100% to heavywieght!! hope thats clear :P
power: tito trinidad
Speed: middlewieght roy jones i.e at the lower wieghts roy power came more from the great speed and snap of his punches rather then his strength.
Defence: although i think winky is prob the best out there right now, im not putting him down considering the style im setting up just wouldnt work as winky has a slow technical style instead of knockout power and charisma get my meaning?? so im going to say Pernell whitakker.
Reflexes: Roy jones junior probably at light heavy period.. though im not sure that it was better at this weight im just sure it was more evident i.e against fighters like kelly and hall. but he certainly didnt loose his reflexes on his journey to light heavy. this coupled with pernells crazy defense/reflexes (was somewhat also to do with his good defence)
Stamina/Conditioning: Some sort of mix between Pbf and Hatton ... for one ive seen hattons workout and his work rate for such periods and his endurance are insane... mainly coupled with floyds becuase he always looks in immense shape and ive never seen either of these fighters tired out!!
Popularity/Image: probably the popularity of tito, and the physique and good looks of Pbf :P
Nobody likes an ugly bastard!! lol kiddin....
Guts: a largish mix.... the great feathers and superfeathers like barrera, morales,paquioau (however its spelt ??? ) and thought obv not feather i'll include winky and jermaine taylor because these fighters are well known and well respected for taking on any opponent and whatever notice and have been fighting the very best without ducking people for years.
Slickness: Toney/Mayweather.. theyr both slick and both use the whole roll the shoulder counter teqnique, although lights out is more famous for it.
Agressiveness: Tyson. no arguements :P
Teqnique... a cross somewhere between the pretty looking shots that odlh throws and power somewhere between tito and tyson... more towards tyson for the decisive one shot stoppage power... but if tito were heavywieght ... i dunno?
thats all i can think of at the mo if i think of another attribute i would give to this fighter.... i might slip it in later .. lol
peace
Bomber probably had the best reflexes I've ever seen in his younger days, but Mayweather's defense is more skilful the way he can just roll his shoulders to avoid or parry.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Unless he fought Ali with Joe Louis' Power. ;) hehehQuote:
Originally Posted by cockey cockney
Yes Herol's defense was more on a whim and reflexes and Mayweathers defense still stays basic enough to stay with him into his thirties.Quote:
Originally Posted by WWatt
Anyway,
Mike Nunn - cocaine = The Perfect fighter
cc you also bro, take care.Quote:
Originally Posted by cockey cockney
and Tyson's not even my favorite heavyweight :)