Steward Sees Tough Fight For Miguel Cotto
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Steward Sees Tough Fight For Miguel Cotto
For once I agree with Manny.
Quintana's no joke.
If Cotto fights like Cotto of two years ago...the boxer...he'll do just fine...but he won't fight with his head & he'll end up looking stupid.
Quitana by upset SD.
Wait & see.
As a fan of both, I hate the fact that they're fighting but I would be more surprised if Cotto won because Quintana is just an outstanding fighter that does just about everything right.
I can't wait for this fight, I know this is a tough fight for Cotto, but I think Cotto will show what he is made of in this fight, he has the skills to beat Quintana, but Quintana is no joke and their is a reason he is undefeated.
Excellent points by all you guys,CC. I think this is when I really find out if Cotto is the star I think he is. Quintana is a slick slick boxer puncher,he's no Spinks or other stinker type boxers,he won't get hit and run,he'll sit on his shots,has decent power too.Having seen 3-4 fights of Quintana,I think he can be open to the body at times and you know what that means peeps,that AWESOME Cotto hook to the body!
I'm worried about 2 things,the natural strenght advantage of Quintana
(I hope Cotto does not get hounded back to 140 like Hatton)
aaaaand how Cotto handles the power of Carlos,a full blown WW.
I want to see the patient,stalking boxer puncher type Cotto,I hate when the crowd gets him pumped up and he wades in,hands down,landing but getting caught too.
As for my prediction,I think Cotto wins,I would not be MASSIVELY surprised if Quintana did but Cotto needs this. Cotto UD.
CC back at yah! This is the test Cotto fans have been waiting for, maybe not just Cotto fans but boxing fans.
Yeah,boxing fans too,and remember,if he and Tony win,UNIFICATION TIME BABY!!!! But one step at a time although one question brothers,is Miguel Cotto P4P after this win? In my opinion,yes he is very very close but I'm not sure......
He has a great resume,very under rated,has beat game fighters alllllll the way through and this would be the icing on the cake but are there any A names OR are lost of B fighters sufficient?(they are for Mayweather so it should be cool for Miguel no?)
A win over Quintana would be more impressive than any of PBFs opposition the last 3 or 4 years. I'm telling you man, Quintana is the real deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
I'll put my hands up and admit,before the Julio fight,I never ever heard of Quintana,I know that's bad but being a true student,I've done my research and actually,his beating of Julio was not such a shock for those in the know(experienced writers wtc) who knew of QUintana and predicted he would school Julio.
Either way,wether Cotto wins or loses,he HAS to stay at 147,I don't want to see him killin himself to make 140. And whoever loses still has a bright future,I truly believe that.
Pre-emptive CC.
From a Promoter's point of view:
This fight should have never happend! Cotto should go for a BIG fight before he takes this kid. Too awkward. Not only that he's from Cotto's home turf.
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW!!!
haha Cotto's gonna get his *ss handed to him, by someone somewhat his size, finally!!!!!
Awesome fight!!!! Excellent card. :) :) :) Showtime doesn't give a shyyyyaatte for their fighters!!! The TRUE LEADER in boxing! ;)
Like Gyrokai said its not really a great business move, its definitely a fan friendly move though. Credit to both guys big time.
I wish I could see more of Quintana before I make a pick, I've only seen him against that Nurhan Surleymanolu guy on ESPN and Julio. He looks good though, smart fighter.
Well he just tamed Julio, which is all I need to know to be scared of this sonuvabiatch! heheh Had a chin, some ummph in his punches, and southpaw. And for once Cotto won't have a 20 pound advantage! ;D ha
If Cotto gets past this one..... I just keep praising him, even though I constantly root against him.
Why didn't Cotto fight Collazo?
I think Collazo's "win" against Hatton was more impressive then Quintana's win over Julio.
Maybe it was but for Cotto's first fight at 147 its very impressive, I doubt that many people would have complained if Cotto had taken on a no hoper cause its a move up in weight and a lot of guys do that, Quintana's a very solid first fight at a new weight. I don't see any reason to complain about it, Urkal was boring, this is a good fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
I agree. But Hatton took a bigger risk in fighting Collazo. And now that everyone has SEEN Collazo, I thought maybe Cotto should take that risk and see if he could do better.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Quintana is the easier fight no doubt. But I thought SOMEONE should at least give Collazo a shot.
At the time though i'm not sure people thought Collazo was a bigger risk. Not everybody saw the Rivera fight, I saw it but it was hard to tell if Collazo was that good or if Rivera was shit. Rivera's turned out to be allright.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Collazo should get a shot but another thing is that Collazo's with Don King right? If Arum and King can avoid working together they probably will, it wouldn't be a superfight or anything, probably easier to work out a deal with Quintana than Collazo.
And I don't know if Quintana's the easier fight NO DOUBT, he may well be but Quintana's got a lot of promise, they're both skilled lefthanders, Quintana might be stronger, Collazo's a bit more experienced.
Quintana has a lot of promise but this is the wrong guy to find that out against. He's jumping from a Guppy to a Shark and he's still a goldfish.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
I think Cotto is in for a VERY tough night...HOWEVER Cotto attacks the body very well and he CAN box I think those things IF he uses them will keep him undefeated.
If he doesn't do those things he's going to get fucked up, maybe KO'd Quintana can bring it
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Originally Posted by Majesty
I think Team Cotto and Arum are looking for a belt, with a belt they can have some kind of leverage money wise in a big fight, if he can get past Quintana.
Then fight who?
Baldomir is fighting Mayweather
Who are the other welterweights?(not the guys moving up, the ones who are already there)
Zab Judah and Margarito...and who else?
I think if cotto wins he has to fight Urkal, by that time their should be some welterweights available if he gets by Quintana and Urkal. they wanted a belt they have to fight Quintana, he would not step aside and now he has to fight them both for a belt. Their is no way Arum was going to put Cotto in with Margarito, and with Baldomier fighting mayweather, and Cintron fighting suarez for the ibf then it was either Quinta or Urkal for the WBA. I assum they wanted a belt, Collazo dosen't have one.
Peeps,I don't know if you know but Arum did not actually want to make this fight but Cotto and his camp became disgruntled,openly stating that they wanted to fight the best/better fighters,pressuring Arum. (it was in a latino newspaper)
Here are the pictures from the presser
you can see already that Quinatana is the bigger guy finally people won't talk crap about Cotto being the bigger guy because of the weight issue. But don't get me wrong that day I will be slighly neutra I say slighly becuse I will like for Cotto to win a bit :D. In fight new Quintana stated the they are already training for what Cotto could bring to the ring and a funny statement by a member of Miguel Cotto's Webpage he said: "They must take him to mule stables every day and have them kicking him in the face for him to prepare to what Cotto is going to hit him with. Maybe drop anvils to his face from the top of his house." I know is too much but is damn funny.
I think Cotto should do fine against Quintana. Sure the guy moves a lot and throws a lot of punches, but Cotto is NOT Joel Julio, he's much better than that, much much better. I mean I dunno why anyone would want Quinatana to win, he's an eye sore to watch IMO, he's herky jerky, and all over the place. He doesn't seem to plant his feet long enuff to get good leverage on his punches either. Compare Quinatana's opposition to that of Cotto's, there's no comparison. Let's go Cotto!
It's called a camera angle ::** You could make Oscar look taller then Hopkins with the right angleQuote:
Originally Posted by Puya
OK STAR let's see...
Miguel Angel Cotto Sex
Male Nationality Puerto Rican
Global ID 033535
Federal ID PR060444
Hometown Caguas, Puerto Rico
Birthplace Caguas, Puerto Rico
Rated at Light Welterweight
World Rank 2 / 920
Date of Birth 1980-10-29
Age 25
Reach 72”
Stance Orthodox
Height 5' 8
Trainer Evangelista Cotto
Manager Evangelista Cotto
W 27 (22 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 27
Carlos Quintana
Sex Male
Nationality Puerto Rican
Alias El Indio
Global ID 023664
Federal ID PR048283
Hometown Moca, Puerto Rico
Birthplace Moca, Puerto Rico
Rated at Welterweight
World Rank 10 / 1075
Date of Birth 1976-11-06
Age 29
Stance Southpaw
Height 5' 9½
Trainer Jose Bonilla
Manager Dr. Rafael Joglar
W 23 (18 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 23
Any questions?
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Originally Posted by Puya
Do you mean bigger, or taller?
I think a little bit of Both. But I think Cotto might be like Winky a 160 very strong. Did you guys know that Winky had to loose alot of weight so he could made 154 he drained a la Cotto a 140 that is the only reason I might give Cotto the edge since I thing he will come a lot stronger.
You all could see Winky vs Tito Winky Looked so Pump it was incredible what 7 punds can do a those weight levels
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Originally Posted by Puya
lol that was funny!! the mule part!!
I appreciate your honesty "El Gamo" but it's inexcusable that you never heard of Quintana before he fought Julio, considering the fact that he has fought on ESPN a few times, and you have over 5,000 posts on this site. I don't mean to get on your case, but shame on you. As for the fight, the two boxers are my favorite fighters out there. I agree with Wacko: If Cotto uses his boxing skills more as opposed to get caught up in drawing blood, then he should win. This is going to be a classic fight and reminds me of the good old days when Puerto Ricans fought each other frequently. This will be one of the most important fights for Puerto Rican boxing fans in recent memory. Throw in Collazo and Cintron, the Ricans may soon hold all the belts in the welterweight division (that is if Mayweather dares fight any of the four).Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Are you crazy? Hatton actually won the fight fair and square against Collazo, though it was close. Quintana won every single round and dismantled Julio. Julio gets the first round because of the knockdown, but he didn't even win that round either!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
By the way, Quintana is 29 years old and even though he has 23 fights, he is very experienced in the ring. He's no goldfish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Hulk, with all due respect, I don't think you've ever seen Quintana fight!!! The guys is a thing of beauty!! He knows what he's doing in there. He is way better than what you describe!!! Quintana has 18 out of 23 KO's and he had Julio hurt and Julio's fought at 154!!! The only one who has better ring generaliship at 147 is Mayweather!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
He beat Julio and thats it. He could have 50 fights, but given his competition. He's still a goldfish, he hasn't faced anyone NEAR Cotto. So he's still a goldfish, he beat Julio. Julio is green and doesn't know what a jab is or a body shot is for that matter. What's gonna happen when Quintana is faced with all these things for the first time. Cotto is going to overwhelm him. Quintana is brave..but Cotto is going to overwhelm him with crisp accurate shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rican
that being said Majesty...Cotto better not take him lightly! Slick southpaws are nothing to be messed with whether journeymen, bums, or youngsters...it's always difficult to fight them.
Cotto is saved by his attacks to the body...he's good at that and never backs away from it
Quintana will fight Cotto the way Paulie was supposed to and he won't complain about the ring. Don't get me wrong-I, as a Puerto Rican, don't even know who to root for!! I am happy that a fight is being made based on paper (and not the green stuff). By the way, Quintana is the first fighter Cotto could probably lose to. The others Cotto fought were fighters he shouldn't lose to, if you know what I mean. By the way, Julio, as green as he was, was better than any fighter Cotto ever fought, though Cotto's resume is peppered with many well-known names. Julio would have beaten all the fighters Cotto beat, while we are at it. Basically, don't sleep on Quintana, especially if you haven't seen him fight. Watch the Julio fight and watch Quintana's style. Few fight like him!! Watch it, you'll see he will be a player in the division!!
If Julio went to the body then we wouldn't be talking about Quintana. His turn away style defense exposes his ribs and Cotto may as well break them. Ask Virgil hill what happened when Roy did it to him ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Julio isn't better then Corley he just hits harder. Julio probably is a harder puncher then anyone Cotto has faced, but it doesn't make him better then everyone on Cotto's resume.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rican
I'm not sleeping on Quintana, he looked good against Julio but in looking good it was more what Julio didn't do. AS Quintana was open ALL DAY for body shots.