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MUHAMMAD ALI WAS NOT THE GREATEST
IT WAS A FIX FROM THE START.THERE ARE WINS HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOT .DOUG JONES,KEN NORTON,COOPER FIRST FIGHT.AND THE BEST FIX EVER THE TWO FIGHT S WITH LISTON ETC ETC.WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh great.
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lol opinions are opinions.... but can i get some backup and some details of how these fights were fixed?
many including myself dont have him as the greatest boxer ever for what he did in the ring but he was the greatest for what he did as a whole and as a man and a boxer.
peace
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HAVE YOU WATCHED ALL HIS FIGHTS?
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
HAVE YOU WATCHED ALL HIS FIGHTS?
CAN U TURN OFF CAPS LOCK?
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Liston hurt his shoulder?
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
IT WAS A FIX FROM THE START.THERE ARE WINS HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOT .DOUG JONES,KEN NORTON,COOPER FIRST FIGHT.AND THE BEST FIX EVER THE TWO FIGHT S WITH LISTON ETC ETC.WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
I think that... everyone has an opinion and there's always some fights in a fighters career you felt they should have lost... and that no matter what people will try to find a way to put them down. And that unless you intend to become a greater boxer then him.. then this conversation is closed ;)
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ali is the greatest and will always be the greatest. this is a stupid and pointless thread
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maybe hes mixing up the ALI from Nelly's wack asss crew the St. Lunatics??????
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HAVE YOU WATCHED ALL HIS FIGHTS?
no i havnt! why have you? im not sure that every single fight he ever had was televised? and i doubt that
the public owned video camera's of any sort back then?
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maybe hes mixing up the ALI from Nelly's wack asss crew the St. Lunatics??????
do u think he is have you saw all his fights?
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maybe hes mixing up the ALI from Nelly's wack asss crew the St. Lunatics??????
do u think he is have you saw all his fights?
I am thankful that I have NOT seen all of Ali from the St. Lunatics fights. I think id rather kill myself instead.
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Originally Posted by ds91
ali is the greatest and will always be the greatest. this is a stupid and pointless thread
I dont think so mate.
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maybe hes mixing up the ALI from Nelly's wack asss crew the St. Lunatics??????
do u think he is have you saw all his fights?
I am thankful that I have NOT seen all of Ali from the St. Lunatics fights. I think id rather kill myself instead.
i dont know about you brother but im jus getting pretty bored of cats comin round here talkin like they cant be wrong....
has this kid seen all his fights? i doubt it .. so why u asking everyone this claiming like youre right?
this place is for conversation and debate not bien an arrogant fashcist lol
fair play have an oppinion .... but now back em up kid... tell us about ali's fights and the facts about how they were either fixed or what have you?
peace
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Originally Posted by ds91
ali is the greatest and will always be the greatest. this is a stupid and pointless thread
I dont think so mate.
OK then who do you think is the best?
And by your standards you can't say Ray Robinson since people felt he lost the second Basilio fight and the third Fullmer fight ::**
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He wasn't 'the' greatest... he was 'Thee' greastest...
A word or warning here: Don't feed the trolls
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
IT WAS A FIX FROM THE START.THERE ARE  WINS HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOT .DOUG JONES,KEN NORTON,COOPER FIRST FIGHT.AND THE BEST FIX EVER THE TWO FIGHT S WITH LISTON ETC ETC.WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
umm ken norton fights were close could of gone either way too close to call well cooper fight it was actually timed at 65 seconds so he only had extra 5 seconds but he had smelling sorts i dont think it was allowed in england at that time 2nd liston fight was bit dodgey ali ranks one of the greatest on my list for best opp in hw division and for what he done for the sport
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He wasn't 'the' greatest... he was 'Thee' greastest...
A word or warning here: Don't feed the trolls
do u think ali was?
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
IT WAS A FIX FROM THE START.THERE ARE WINS HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOT .DOUG JONES,KEN NORTON,COOPER FIRST FIGHT.AND THE BEST FIX EVER THE TWO FIGHT S WITH LISTON ETC ETC.WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
umm ken norton fights were close could of gone either way too close to call well cooper fight it was actually timed at 65 seconds so he only had extra 5 seconds but he had smelling sorts i dont think it was allowed in england at that time 2nd liston fight was bit dodgey ali ranks one of the greatest on my list for best opp in hw division and for what he done for the sport
who do you think was the best ever?
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
IT WAS A FIX FROM THE START.THERE ARE  WINS HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOT .DOUG JONES,KEN NORTON,COOPER FIRST FIGHT.AND THE BEST FIX EVER THE TWO FIGHT S WITH LISTON ETC ETC.WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
umm ken norton fights were close could of gone either way too close to call well cooper fight it was actually timed at 65 seconds so he only had extra 5 seconds but he had smelling sorts i dont think it was allowed in england at that time 2nd liston fight was bit dodgey ali ranks one of the greatest on my list for best opp in hw division and for what he done for the sport
who do you think was the best ever?
umm sugar ray robinson along with henry armstrong ali larry holmes ect
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
IT WAS A FIX FROM THE START.THERE ARE WINS HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOT .DOUG JONES,KEN NORTON,COOPER FIRST FIGHT.AND THE BEST FIX EVER THE TWO FIGHT S WITH LISTON ETC ETC.WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
umm ken norton fights were close could of gone either way too close to call well cooper fight it was actually timed at 65 seconds so he only had extra 5 seconds but he had smelling sorts i dont think it was allowed in england at that time 2nd liston fight was bit dodgey ali ranks one of the greatest on my list for best opp in hw division and for what he done for the sport
who do you think was the best ever?
I repeat
OK then who do you think is the best?
And by your standards you can't say Ray Robinson since people felt he lost the second Basilio fight and the third Fullmer fight ::**
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
He wasn't 'the' greatest... he was 'Thee' greastest...
A word or warning here: Don't feed the trolls
do u think ali was?
please kid for the sake of your arguement.... just explain how you have even reached this conclusion!!
you say this... we ask for an explantion and you start asking different questions.. whats your reason for saying hes not the greatest?
peace
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
IT WAS A FIX FROM THE START.THERE ARE WINS HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOT .DOUG JONES,KEN NORTON,COOPER FIRST FIGHT.AND THE BEST FIX EVER THE TWO FIGHT S WITH LISTON ETC ETC.WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
umm ken norton fights were close could of gone either way too close to call well cooper fight it was actually timed at 65 seconds so he only had extra 5 seconds but he had smelling sorts i dont think it was allowed in england at that time 2nd liston fight was bit dodgey ali ranks one of the greatest on my list for best opp in hw division and for what he done for the sport
who do you think was the best ever?
umm sugar ray robinson along with henry armstrong ali larry holmes ect
but there are so many greats i like so i really dont like choosing just 1 greatest
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
IT WAS A FIX FROM THE START.THERE ARE WINS HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOT .DOUG JONES,KEN NORTON,COOPER FIRST FIGHT.AND THE BEST FIX EVER THE TWO FIGHT S WITH LISTON ETC ETC.WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
umm ken norton fights were close could of gone either way too close to call well cooper fight it was actually timed at 65 seconds so he only had extra 5 seconds but he had smelling sorts i dont think it was allowed in england at that time 2nd liston fight was bit dodgey ali ranks one of the greatest on my list for best opp in hw division and for what he done for the sport
who do you think was the best ever?what about peak years Tyson of the 80s?Doug jones beat ali,leon spinks beat him in is 8th fight.
umm sugar ray robinson along with henry armstrong ali larry holmes ect
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
He wasn't 'the' greatest... he was 'Thee' greastest...
A word or warning here: Don't feed the trolls
do u think ali was?
Do I think he is the greatest ever boxer? yes.
Do I think he is the greatest ever athlete? yes.
Do I think that you are a Troll? Ditto.
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
He wasn't 'the' greatest... he was 'Thee' greastest...
A word or warning here: Don't feed the trolls
do u think ali was?
please kid for the sake of your arguement.... just explain how you have even reached this conclusion!!
you say this... we ask for an explantion and you start asking different questions.. whats your reason for saying hes not the greatest?Like i say Doug jones beat him Leon spinks did in is 8th fight the Liston fights was a big bet in fix ,the 2nd fight liston 1-7 ON
peace
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
IT WAS A FIX FROM THE START.THERE ARE WINS HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOT .DOUG JONES,KEN NORTON,COOPER FIRST FIGHT.AND THE BEST FIX EVER THE TWO FIGHT S WITH LISTON ETC ETC.WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
umm ken norton fights were close could of gone either way too close to call well cooper fight it was actually timed at 65 seconds so he only had extra 5 seconds but he had smelling sorts i dont think it was allowed in england at that time 2nd liston fight was bit dodgey ali ranks one of the greatest on my list for best opp in hw division and for what he done for the sport
who do you think was the best ever?
why do you think tyson is best ever :)
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haha good one
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
He wasn't 'the' greatest... he was 'Thee' greastest...
A word or warning here: Don't feed the trolls
do u think ali was?
Do I think he is the greatest ever boxer? yes.
Do I think he is the greatest ever athlete? yes.are you for real have you watched all is fights?
Do I think that you are a Troll? Ditto.
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
He wasn't 'the' greatest... he was 'Thee' greastest...
A word or warning here: Don't feed the trolls
do u think ali was?
Do I think he is the greatest ever boxer? yes.
Do I think he is the greatest ever athlete? yes.are you for real have you watched all is fights?
Do I think that you are a Troll? Ditto.
u scroll down to where it says quote and type there hope this helps :)
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
He wasn't 'the' greatest... he was 'Thee' greastest...
A word or warning here: Don't feed the trolls
do u think ali was?
Do I think he is the greatest ever boxer? yes.
Do I think he is the greatest ever athlete? yes.
Do I think that you are a Troll? Ditto.
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haha good stuff!!
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
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Originally Posted by body head banger
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
He wasn't 'the' greatest... he was 'Thee' greastest...
A word or warning here: Don't feed the trolls
do u think ali was?
please kid for the sake of your arguement.... just explain how you have even reached this conclusion!!
you say this... we ask for an explantion and you start asking different questions.. whats your reason for saying hes not the greatest?Like i say Doug jones beat him Leon spinks did in is 8th fight the Liston fights was a big bet in fix ,the 2nd fight liston 1-7 ON
peace
and to you sir i will say styles make fights and becuase the arguements that go he beat him and he lost to him just dont work...they are true but they cant be relied upon..
and youre other facts seem to be more understandable but yet theres no solid proof for them...
is this one of them dont feed the lion things?
peace
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haha good one
I bet u have never been to a fight in your life?
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haha good one
I bet u have never been to a fight in your life?
That was the wrong thing to say to AdamGB, prepare to be schooled ill mitch style ;D
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hahaha... me or Ice cold? HAHAHAHA! I'm a competative boxer... but I refuse to get any further into this conversation than telling you that...
It's just another pathetic trolling attempt... ::**
And so what if some one hasn't... they're either smart enough not of needed to fight... or well off enough not to need to fight... good for them.
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haha good one
I bet u have never been to a fight in your life?
That was the wrong thing to say to AdamGB, prepare to be schooled ill mitch style ;D
You want me to drop some Izzle to the Mizzle on him? :P
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by TYSONBESTEVER
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
haha good one
I bet u have never been to a fight in your life?
That was the wrong thing to say to AdamGB, prepare to be schooled ill mitch style ;D
You want me to drop some Izzle to the Mizzle on him? :P
Fo Shizzle
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hahaha... me or Ice cold? HAHAHAHA! I'm a competative boxer... but I refuse to get any further into this conversation than telling you that...
It's just another pathetic trolling attempt... ::**
And so what if some one hasn't... they're either smart enough not of needed to fight... or well off enough not to need to fight... good for them.
i an not on about have in a fight .i am on about go in to a fight/