Baldomir vs PBF, the ride ends...

Hey I like Baldomir, and he has given "journeymen" fighters out there a huge boost. I respect the guy for what he has achieved and that he has made the most out of his opportunities and ability, but I truely believe that it will all come to an end at the hands of PBF. He caught Zab by surprise at the right time. I really dislike Judah and anyone can tell that prior to the fight that he had totally underestimated Baldomir and payed him no respect. He was already hyping his fight with PBF. Zab has the concentration ability of a child with ADH, whose spent the whole day drinking coke and arrived at Disney World. Went into the fight totally unprepared and we all know that he wouldn't be able to dig deep if we gave him a bulldozer. Hence Baldomir got the much deserved win.
Then you have the Gatti fight. Almost all boxing fans know that Gatti is a shot fighter. Was there not a single spectator out there who wasn't shouting for the ref to step in against PBF.
But now he faces PBF!!! Despite what we think of PBF, he has real ability, he is at his peak, he is truely commited to training and any surprise that baldomir might have brought will have disappeared with the 2 displays against Zab and Gatti. Fair play to Baldomir, he deserves this pay day, but can anyone see a way that he can get a result??

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Originally Posted by sanj16

Hey I like Baldomir, and he has given "journeymen" fighters out there a huge boost. I respect the guy for what he has achieved and that he has made the most out of his opportunities and ability, but I truely believe that it will all come to an end at the hands of PBF. He caught Zab by surprise at the right time. I really dislike Judah and anyone can tell that prior to the fight that he had totally underestimated Baldomir and payed him no respect. He was already hyping his fight with PBF. Zab has the concentration ability of a child with ADH, whose spent the whole day drinking coke and arrived at Disney World. Went into the fight totally unprepared and we all know that he wouldn't be able to dig deep if we gave him a bulldozer. Hence Baldomir got the much deserved win.
Then you have the Gatti fight. Almost all boxing fans know that Gatti is a shot fighter. Was there not a single spectator out there who wasn't shouting for the ref to step in against PBF.
But now he faces PBF!!! Despite what we think of PBF, he has real ability, he is at his peak, he is truely commited to training and any surprise that baldomir might have brought will have disappeared with the 2 displays against Zab and Gatti. Fair play to Baldomir, he deserves this pay day, but can anyone see a way that he can get a result??

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baldomir reminds me of a welterweight version of glen johnson

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

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Originally Posted by sanj16

Hey I like Baldomir, and he has given "journeymen" fighters out there a huge boost. I respect the guy for what he has achieved and that he has made the most out of his opportunities and ability, but I truely believe that it will all come to an end at the hands of PBF. He caught Zab by surprise at the right time. I really dislike Judah and anyone can tell that prior to the fight that he had totally underestimated Baldomir and payed him no respect. He was already hyping his fight with PBF. Zab has the concentration ability of a child with ADH, whose spent the whole day drinking coke and arrived at Disney World. Went into the fight totally unprepared and we all know that he wouldn't be able to dig deep if we gave him a bulldozer. Hence Baldomir got the much deserved win.
Then you have the Gatti fight. Almost all boxing fans know that Gatti is a shot fighter. Was there not a single spectator out there who wasn't shouting for the ref to step in against PBF.
But now he faces PBF!!! Despite what we think of PBF, he has real ability, he is at his peak, he is truely commited to training and any surprise that baldomir might have brought will have disappeared with the 2 displays against Zab and Gatti. Fair play to Baldomir, he deserves this pay day, but can anyone see a way that he can get a result??

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baldomir reminds me of a welterweight version of glen johnson

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but he's up against the Greatest....PBF....

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Originally Posted by THE Bigragu

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

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Originally Posted by sanj16

Hey I like Baldomir, and he has given "journeymen" fighters out there a huge boost. I respect the guy for what he has achieved and that he has made the most out of his opportunities and ability, but I truely believe that it will all come to an end at the hands of PBF. He caught Zab by surprise at the right time. I really dislike Judah and anyone can tell that prior to the fight that he had totally underestimated Baldomir and payed him no respect. He was already hyping his fight with PBF. Zab has the concentration ability of a child with ADH, whose spent the whole day drinking coke and arrived at Disney World. Went into the fight totally unprepared and we all know that he wouldn't be able to dig deep if we gave him a bulldozer. Hence Baldomir got the much deserved win.
Then you have the Gatti fight. Almost all boxing fans know that Gatti is a shot fighter. Was there not a single spectator out there who wasn't shouting for the ref to step in against PBF.
But now he faces PBF!!! Despite what we think of PBF, he has real ability, he is at his peak, he is truely commited to training and any surprise that baldomir might have brought will have disappeared with the 2 displays against Zab and Gatti. Fair play to Baldomir, he deserves this pay day, but can anyone see a way that he can get a result??

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baldomir reminds me of a welterweight version of glen johnson

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but he's up against the Greatest....PBF....

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correct, just like johnson was up against roy jones jr. (although he was pretty much shot going in)

Floyd should win this convincingly... but...

With all the skill/speed in the world I'm still not sold on him as a Welterweight.

Baldo is a strong guy with above average skills, a thick skull and a good work rate. Floyd had better not forget to inject his hands before this one ;D

If Baldomir wins more than 4 rounds I'll be impressed, white wash for Floyd.

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Originally Posted by Hairdoo

Floyd should win this convincingly... but...

With all the skill/speed in the world I'm still not sold on him as a Welterweight.

Baldo is a strong guy with above average skills, a thick skull and a good work rate. Floyd had better not forget to inject his hands before this one ;D

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I agree...all the way around. Good post. :coolclick:

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Originally Posted by sanj16

Hey I like Baldomir, and he has given "journeymen" fighters out there a huge boost. I respect the guy for what he has achieved and that he has made the most out of his opportunities and ability, but I truely believe that it will all come to an end at the hands of PBF. He caught Zab by surprise at the right time. I really dislike Judah and anyone can tell that prior to the fight that he had totally underestimated Baldomir and payed him no respect. He was already hyping his fight with PBF. Zab has the concentration ability of a child with ADH, whose spent the whole day drinking coke and arrived at Disney World. Went into the fight totally unprepared and we all know that he wouldn't be able to dig deep if we gave him a bulldozer. Hence Baldomir got the much deserved win.
Then you have the Gatti fight. Almost all boxing fans know that Gatti is a shot fighter. Was there not a single spectator out there who wasn't shouting for the ref to step in against PBF.
But now he faces PBF!!! Despite what we think of PBF, he has real ability, he is at his peak, he is truely commited to training and any surprise that baldomir might have brought will have disappeared with the 2 displays against Zab and Gatti. Fair play to Baldomir, he deserves this pay day, but can anyone see a way that he can get a result??

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baldomir reminds me of a welterweight version of glen johnson

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but he's up against the Greatest....PBF....

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correct, just like johnson was up against roy jones jr. (although he was pretty much shot going in)

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A Roy JOnes Jr. who lost his ability to fight off the ropes, his foot speed, his chin, and maybe most importantly his confidence.

IMO the only thing roy lost was his confidence. for we know he never had good chin to begin with. since nobody could touch it we couldn't tell. in the third tarver fight i saw the speed and refelxes. he just didn't have the confidence.

He lost a little the reflexes by the third fights against Tarver... Jones did lose his chin... look at the first Tarver fight... flush straight lefts weren't doing crap to him, Ruiz hit him solidly in the side of the head, pretty much every fighter got in a few solid shots against Roy Jones JR... I've watched his career about 5 times, and he like any fighter who has foughten the top level gets tagged once and awhile in every fight especially when he would get reckless after overwhelming an opponent... He did have a solid chin... One time Toney did a 360 punch that clipped him cleanly, and he didn't even blink... Toney also punched off the clinch a few times, and Jones would respond with a quick punishing combination.

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Originally Posted by sanj16

Hey I like Baldomir, and he has given "journeymen" fighters out there a huge boost. I respect the guy for what he has achieved and that he has made the most out of his opportunities and ability, but I truely believe that it will all come to an end at the hands of PBF. He caught Zab by surprise at the right time. I really dislike Judah and anyone can tell that prior to the fight that he had totally underestimated Baldomir and payed him no respect. He was already hyping his fight with PBF. Zab has the concentration ability of a child with ADH, whose spent the whole day drinking coke and arrived at Disney World. Went into the fight totally unprepared and we all know that he wouldn't be able to dig deep if we gave him a bulldozer. Hence Baldomir got the much deserved win.
Then you have the Gatti fight. Almost all boxing fans know that Gatti is a shot fighter. Was there not a single spectator out there who wasn't shouting for the ref to step in against PBF.
But now he faces PBF!!! Despite what we think of PBF, he has real ability, he is at his peak, he is truely commited to training and any surprise that baldomir might have brought will have disappeared with the 2 displays against Zab and Gatti. Fair play to Baldomir, he deserves this pay day, but can anyone see a way that he can get a result??

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hes good but hes not even close of beatin floyd
too slow for him, too predictable for him
and one thing i noticed, bad footwork

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

baldomir reminds me of a welterweight version of glen johnson

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:coolclick: damn you hit it exactly

Really excited about this one.....PBF decision, with the odd patchy moment for him however.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

He lost a little the reflexes by the third fights against Tarver... Jones did lose his chin... look at the first Tarver fight... flush straight lefts weren't doing crap to him, Ruiz hit him solidly in the side of the head, pretty much every fighter got in a few solid shots against Roy Jones JR... I've watched his career about 5 times, and he like any fighter who has foughten the top level gets tagged once and awhile in every fight especially when he would get reckless after overwhelming an opponent... He did have a solid chin... One time Toney did a 360 punch that clipped him cleanly, and he didn't even blink... Toney also punched off the clinch a few times, and Jones would respond with a quick punishing combination.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

He lost a little the reflexes by the third fights against Tarver... Jones did lose his chin... look at the first Tarver fight... flush straight lefts weren't doing crap to him, Ruiz hit him solidly in the side of the head, pretty much every fighter got in a few solid shots against Roy Jones JR... I've watched his career about 5 times, and he like any fighter who has foughten the top level gets tagged once and awhile in every fight especially when he would get reckless after overwhelming an opponent... He did have a solid chin... One time Toney did a 360 punch that clipped him cleanly, and he didn't even blink... Toney also punched off the clinch a few times, and Jones would respond with a quick punishing combination.

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how he lose his chin between tarver I and tarver II. when he got KO by tarver in the 2nd fight it was because it was a good punch. everytime roy got hurt after that it was because he had lost his confidence.

i can see this being a castillo type of fight, flloyd did not want to engauge castillo at all, and in my mind baldo is definetly stronger, he may well win this fight, definetly worth a bet anyway

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Originally Posted by Hairdoo

Floyd should win this convincingly... but...

With all the skill/speed in the world I'm still not sold on him as a Welterweight.

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Probably because he faced a guy that is the closest to him in terms of talent and gifts, but he had an edge in mentality. I don't think Baldomir is as fast or quickly reflexed as Judah.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

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Originally Posted by Hairdoo

Floyd should win this convincingly... but...

With all the skill/speed in the world I'm still not sold on him as a Welterweight.

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Probably because he faced a guy that is the closest to him in terms of talent and gifts, but he had an edge in mentality. I don't think Baldomir is as fast or quickly reflexed as Judah.

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True but Judah respected PBF's power... will Baldomir?

It is the middle rounds of the fight I' am interested in ;) Floyd should make Tata look like he is standing still for the 1st few rounds and once he figures him out (assuming he gets his respect) he'll put on a clinic in the last few... but that still leaves the middle rounds where the fight can change. We may find that Floyd can't hurt Baldomir and has to try and hotdog his way to victory (worst case scenario, Baldo puts in the work and gets ripped off by the judges :( ).

Hopefully Floyd try's to make a statement to the other big Welterweights in this fight. How nice it would be to see him sit in the pocket, plant his feet and bang. ;D

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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'

IMO the only thing roy lost was his confidence. for we know he never had good chin to begin with. since nobody could touch it we couldn't tell. in the third tarver fight i saw the speed and refelxes. he just didn't have the confidence.

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He lost his chin for damn sure.

lets not forget that baldomir only has like 10 kos. he not a big puncher. you can say was able to stop gatti but so did PBF