Casamayor: "I Want Barrera Next"
Casamayor: "I Want Barrera Next"
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I'm sure Joel wants MAB....look what Pacquiao did to him!!!
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Barerra, MOrales, and Pac are not lightweights.. I hope they don't forget it... Although most of the premier fighters are now moving up, Casamayor alone is too much for any of the 3 to take on. Just too much natural size and power at that point, at least imo. Barerra definetly wouldn't take the fight as far as I'm concerned.
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Barerra, MOrales, and Pac are not lightweights.. I hope they don't forget it... Although most of the premier fighters are now moving up, Casamayor alone is too much for any of the 3 to take on. Just too much natural size and power at that point, at least imo. Barerra definetly wouldn't take the fight as far as I'm concerned.
what your saying is fair.. and might be true...
but if you ask me barrera take the fight on sheer guts and just being such a warrior ....
i just dont see casamoyor bieng able to beat barrera, i dont think he matches up to him... i find it hard to explain cos i dont see barrera outclassing him skillwise speedwise or any such attributes... not saying he doesnt, just dont think they are factors....forget boxing
barrera is tough.period. and frankly i dont see joel hanging with him in boxing mma whereever cos when it all comes down to it .. its a fight..
peace
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Casamayor beats all 3. Barrera, Pac and Morales. And I'm a big Morales fan.
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well he's a hell of a lot bigger than those guys
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Originally Posted by Lyle
well he's a hell of a lot bigger than those guys
That's exactly why
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Lyle
well he's a hell of a lot bigger than those guys
That's exactly why
Frankly i can only see him beating morales atm.... but prime vs prime, he doesnt match up to any of the three....
put it this way barrera morales and pacman all beat on corrales by a large margin...
casamayor does it by a slight margin....
prime vs prime and all at the sam wieght i just dont think he stands a chance vs any of them
i mean did you see the fight he had before corrales... a twelve round struggle against an opponent that shouldnt have been in his league... and corrales dissed him for it rightly so....
to be fair corrales no matter how entertaining has no shortage of kinks in his heavily beaten armour..
and its also possibly a style thing...
and yeh the first two casa-corra fights were pretty much good ol back and forth beat downs
i dont see joel standing toe to toe with any of those three... definiately not outboxing pacman...
diego is in no way slick and diego could still land no shortage of punches on him, pacman would jus have a field day with his fients!!
and lets not forget barrera is the man who dethroned the prince!! he'd just textbook box and rough him up to a decision....
and the power thing doesnt have to be a factor against barrera.. i mean rocky j has a hell of a punch and look how he got schooled..
im not saying joel couldnt knock out barrera... but i am saying he wouldnt !
peace
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Prime for prime at the same weight, Casamayor takes Pac to school. It's obvious you never saw Casamayor at his best.
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No way Barrera takes this fight. Firstly, because of the obvious size issue. Secondly, Marco has stated he will fight once more next year and probably call it quits. It's almost certainly going to be a rematch with Pac or a slight chance he might go one more time with Morales. Joel needs to look for another fight.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I'm sure Joel wants MAB....look what Pacquiao did to him!!!
yeah.....He needs to call out someone in their prime....PAC perhaps?
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Barrera is one of the biggest fights out there for Joel along with the winner of Pac/ Morales but I'd much rather see Casamayor fight Castillo at a catchweight!!!
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Barrera was at his best at like 122-125ish, and is a great fighter, but he would have never beaten Casamayor... Corrales and Castillo IMO have everything Barrera does/did, and neither of them I think are as good as Casamayor who IMO beat them both.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
Barrera was at his best at like 122-125ish, and is a great fighter, but he would have never beaten Casamayor... Corrales and Castillo IMO have everything Barrera does/did, and neither of them I think are as good as Casamayor who IMO beat them both.
I don't think Corrales or Castillo are anything like Barrera in terms of fighting style or skill. That is not to say either of them couldn't beat Marco (they are both naturally bigger and stronger guys)....but Corrales and Castillo are more puncher/brawler fighters...where as Marco has become a master boxer with great technical skills. All of this doesn't matter though....Marco isn't going to fight any of them. It's Pac or Morlaes and that's it.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
Barrera was at his best at like 122-125ish, and is a great fighter, but he would have never beaten Casamayor... Corrales and Castillo IMO have everything Barrera does/did, and neither of them I think are as good as Casamayor who IMO beat them both.
Fool. Skill wise MAB/Morales are above Casamayor but even Morales isn't that dumb surely. I think MAB has enought skill to out box a more slender Chavez but hell who knows what weight Casamayor would turn in at. MAB fights at close to his walking round weight all these other guys you're talking about pack on well over 14lbs between fights and much of that goes back on come fight night. Too big a natural size advantage.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
Barrera was at his best at like 122-125ish, and is a great fighter, but he would have never beaten Casamayor... Corrales and Castillo IMO have everything Barrera does/did, and neither of them I think are as good as Casamayor who IMO beat them both.
Fool. Skill wise MAB/Morales are above Casamayor but even Morales isn't that dumb surely. I think MAB has enought skill to out box a more slender Chavez but hell who knows what weight Casamayor would turn in at. MAB fights at close to his walking round weight all these other guys you're talking about pack on well over 14lbs between fights and much of that goes back on come fight night. Too big a natural size advantage.
I disagree Ace, I feel Casamayor is just as good if not better technically than both Barrera & Morales (Barrera being the better of the two). I think with Barreras last performance against Juarez he showed his talents. I think Joel could make 130 easy with all those years on the Cuban amatuer team he knows a thing or two about making weight. Csamayor by UD!
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Originally Posted by body head banger
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Barerra, MOrales, and Pac are not lightweights.. I hope they don't forget it... Although most of the premier fighters are now moving up, Casamayor alone is too much for any of the 3 to take on. Just too much natural size and power at that point, at least imo. Barerra definetly wouldn't take the fight as far as I'm concerned.
what your saying is fair.. and might be true...
but if you ask me barrera take the fight on sheer guts and just being such a warrior ....
i just dont see casamoyor bieng able to beat barrera, i dont think he matches up to him... i find it hard to explain cos i dont see barrera outclassing him skillwise speedwise or any such attributes... not saying he doesnt, just dont think they are factors....forget boxing
barrera is tough.period. and frankly i dont see joel hanging with him in boxing mma whereever cos when it all comes down to it .. its a fight..
peace
Yup I agree
If Casa moved down to Barreras weight hed be powerless against the skooling hed receive . It would be like Barrera - Juarez 2 . At lightweight though it suits Casa alot more . Maybe Erik will be looking to relaunch himself after the Pac loss at a new weight but with 3 staright losses Casa wont be looking at him . He wants Barrera
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Originally Posted by GAME
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Originally Posted by body head banger
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Barerra, MOrales, and Pac are not lightweights.. I hope they don't forget it... Although most of the premier fighters are now moving up, Casamayor alone is too much for any of the 3 to take on. Just too much natural size and power at that point, at least imo. Barerra definetly wouldn't take the fight as far as I'm concerned.
what your saying is fair.. and might be true...
but if you ask me barrera take the fight on sheer guts and just being such a warrior ....
i just dont see casamoyor bieng able to beat barrera, i dont think he matches up to him... i find it hard to explain cos i dont see barrera outclassing him skillwise speedwise or any such attributes... not saying he doesnt, just dont think they are factors....forget boxing
barrera is tough.period. and frankly i dont see joel hanging with him in boxing mma whereever cos when it all comes down to it .. its a fight..
peace
Yup I agree
If Casa moved down to Barreras weight hed be powerless against the skooling hed receive . It would be like Barrera - Juarez 2 . At lightweight though it suits Casa alot more . Maybe Erik will be looking to relaunch himself after the Pac loss at a new weight but with 3 staright losses Casa wont be looking at him . He wants Barrera
Juarez is nowhere near as good a boxer as Casamayor, and he is naturally a good 10 pounds smaller. I don't know if Casa planned on moving down to 130, but I surely doubt that.. He would be calling Barerra up to lightweight as far as Im concerned.
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by GAME
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Originally Posted by body head banger
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Barerra, MOrales, and Pac are not lightweights.. I hope they don't forget it... Although most of the premier fighters are now moving up, Casamayor alone is too much for any of the 3 to take on. Just too much natural size and power at that point, at least imo. Barerra definetly wouldn't take the fight as far as I'm concerned.
what your saying is fair.. and might be true...
but if you ask me barrera take the fight on sheer guts and just being such a warrior ....
i just dont see casamoyor bieng able to beat barrera, i dont think he matches up to him... i find it hard to explain cos i dont see barrera outclassing him skillwise speedwise or any such attributes... not saying he doesnt, just dont think they are factors....forget boxing
barrera is tough.period. and frankly i dont see joel hanging with him in boxing mma whereever cos when it all comes down to it .. its a fight..
peace
Yup I agree
If Casa moved down to Barreras weight hed be powerless against the skooling hed receive . It would be like Barrera - Juarez 2 . At lightweight though it suits Casa alot more . Maybe Erik will be looking to relaunch himself after the Pac loss at a new weight but with 3 staright losses Casa wont be looking at him . He wants Barrera
Juarez is nowhere near as good a boxer as Casamayor, and he is naturally a good 10 pounds smaller. I don't know if Casa planned on moving down to 130, but I surely doubt that.. He would be calling Barerra up to lightweight as far as Im concerned.
I think I read on ESPN that Casamayor said he can still make 130 if he has to but would prefer not to. For Barrera I think he would drop down, it seems that Barrera is the only guy Joel is targeting
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Well if you saw MAB get a beat down from a counter punching southpaw wouldn't you jump at the chance to fight him???
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Well if you saw MAB get a beat down from a counter punching southpaw wouldn't you jump at the chance to fight him???
I think its more than that, one of Cuba's greatest Vs one of Mexico's. But IMO Casamayor schools Barrea, Pacquiao & Morales.
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
I think I read on ESPN that Casamayor said he can still make 130 if he has to but would prefer not to. For Barrera I think he would drop down, it seems that Barrera is the only guy Joel is targeting
Because he's the bigger name and the smaller guy. ;)
