The most skilled fighters

Think I may have done something along these lines earlier but a bunch of posts have been wiped out so I'm not sure

When I say skills I don't mean natural athletic ability (pure speed, pure power, etc.), I mean defense, slipping punches, timing, skilled punches (how straight you throw them, technical punches), countering, etc.

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Floyd
Toney
Hopkins (assuming he's still fighting)
JMM
Calderon
Barrera-could be a bit better defensively maybe

Guzman if he'd tighten up his punches, can be a bit wild at times

If I've forgotten somebody, well that's the point, give me some names

Mayweather
Wright
Casamayor
Calderon

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I forgot Winky. That's a pretty big omission. CC

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Originally Posted by galaxy76

Mayweather
Wright
ODLH
Casamayor
Calderon

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Great list had to edit it.

Worthy mention for me:

DLH
Parra
Calzaghe

I just saw you edited my list, but Casamayor has great skills IMO

Casamayor deserves a mention, not sure he's in my top shelf list but he's very skilled

Parra's also very skilled, only seen him twice, wish I could see more.

Up and comers that I think are skilled: Quintana, Lamont Peterson, Jorge Linares

Also Martin Castillo's pretty skilled, wish I could see what happened in his last fight

PBF is the best. He will be the best in the business for many years to come. The competition is very weak in comparison. I am surprised he is not bored. If I was as great as PBF, I would be fighting like 8 times a year.

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Casamayor deserves a mention, not sure he's in my top shelf list but he's very skilled

Parra's also very skilled, only seen him twice, wish I could see more.

Up and comers that I think are skilled: Quintana, Lamont Peterson, Jorge Linares

Also Martin Castillo's pretty skilled, wish I could see what happened in his last fight

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I was gonna put both Quintana & Castillo but Quintana got dropped by Julio but is still very slick & Castillo gets hit a little to much for my liking.

Haven't seen a lot of Kyowa but what I've seen impressed me!

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Casamayor deserves a mention, not sure he's in my top shelf list but he's very skilled

Parra's also very skilled, only seen him twice, wish I could see more.

Up and comers that I think are skilled: Quintana, Lamont Peterson, Jorge Linares

Also Martin Castillo's pretty skilled, wish I could see what happened in his last fight

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I was gonna put both Quintana & Castillo but Quintana got dropped by Julio but is still very slick & Castillo gets hit a little to much for my liking.

Haven't seen a lot of Kyowa but what I've seen impressed me!

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I haven't seen Kyowa at all, not a second of a round, sounds like a good fighter though.

I think Pernell Whitaker was pretty skilled. Some of what sweetpea did defensively still leaves me in awe.

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I think Pernell Whitaker was pretty skilled. Some of what sweetpea did defensively still leaves me in awe.

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Definitely, I just meant current fighters though, if not I would have definitely included him

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I think Pernell Whitaker was pretty skilled. Some of what sweetpea did defensively still leaves me in awe.

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Definitely, I just meant current fighters though, if not I would have definitely included him

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Yeah I was just poeting current fighters or else my boy Lopez would have been there too, he could do it all

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I think Pernell Whitaker was pretty skilled. Some of what sweetpea did defensively still leaves me in awe.

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Definitely, I just meant current fighters though, if not I would have definitely included him

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Sugar Shane I think is pretty skilled.

Tito Trinidad he did so much with that only dimension 8)

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Tito Trinidad he did so much with that only dimension 8)

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I'll adimt Trinidad did great with what he had, but his skill level technically was severly lacking... although you could add John Ruiz as he was the most skilled clincher I ever saw!

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Tito Trinidad he did so much with that only dimension 8)

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I'll adimt Trinidad did great with what he had, but his skill level technically was severly lacking... although you could add John Ruiz as he was the most skilled clincher I ever saw!

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Jaun Mnauel Marquez,technically,seems almost complete. Everything seems textbook like with him. Puya,LMAO,cool Cotto vid! Mentions also to Winky and Floyd.

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Jaun Mnauel Marquez,technically,seems almost complete. Everything seems textbook like with him. Puya,LMAO,cool Cotto vid! Mentions also to Winky and Floyd.

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Yeah Gamo JMM is technically sound but I saw him get clean 3 times by Pacquiao in that 1st round. Don't know if he was just cold or what but he sure was open!

I think he was just cold bro and he did win most of the other rounds!! Add EM and MAB to my list,both warriors,have boxing skills and in their primes,were amazing!

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I think he was just cold bro and he did win most of the other rounds!! Add EM and MAB to my list,both warriors,have boxing skills and in their primes,were amazing!

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agreed cc bro, Barreras seems to be like a fine wine!

CC back bro!

as of RIGHT NOW.......... its all about PBF

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as of RIGHT NOW.......... its all about PBF

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Yeah but you could argue Wright is just is good if not better technically

Id say Tyson

Although he was a run in and kill man, the way he rolled , slipped and countered was so textbook perfect alot of the time it was beautiful to watch.

If i was teaching someone to box and came to slipping, bobbing weaving and rolling id show tyson.

alexis arguello
aaron pryor
larry holmes
muhammad ali
meldrick taylor
pernell whitaker
joe calzaghe
roy jones
floyd mayweather
sugar ray leonard
thoams hearns
sugar ray robinson
willie pep
riddick bowe
mike tyson

he problably doesn't deserve to be on the list but when zahire raheem outboxed morales he seem to be doing everything perfectly. he throwing 6-7 jab in row. defense was fantastic and his foot work was great to.

Calzaghe
Wlad
Kessler
Povetkin
Adamek

ODLH
Winky
Toney
B-Hop
Floyd
JMM
Barrera
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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Think I may have done something along these lines earlier but a bunch of posts have been wiped out so I'm not sure

When I say skills I don't mean natural athletic ability (pure speed, pure power, etc.), I mean defense, slipping punches, timing, skilled punches (how straight you throw them, technical punches), countering, etc.

I'll go with

Floyd
Toney
Hopkins (assuming he's still fighting)
JMM
Calderon
Barrera-could be a bit better defensively maybe

Guzman if he'd tighten up his punches, can be a bit wild at times

If I've forgotten somebody, well that's the point, give me some names

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Judah needs to be on the list for "skill"

it's just mentality he's lacking.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Think I may have done something along these lines earlier but a bunch of posts have been wiped out so I'm not sure

When I say skills I don't mean natural athletic ability (pure speed, pure power, etc.), I mean defense, slipping punches, timing, skilled punches (how straight you throw them, technical punches), countering, etc.

I'll go with

Floyd
Toney
Hopkins (assuming he's still fighting)
JMM
Calderon
Barrera-could be a bit better defensively maybe

Guzman if he'd tighten up his punches, can be a bit wild at times

If I've forgotten somebody, well that's the point, give me some names

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Judah needs to be on the list for "skill"

it's just mentality he's lacking.

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That's the main component of skill.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Think I may have done something along these lines earlier but a bunch of posts have been wiped out so I'm not sure

When I say skills I don't mean natural athletic ability (pure speed, pure power, etc.), I mean defense, slipping punches, timing, skilled punches (how straight you throw them, technical punches), countering, etc.

I'll go with

Floyd
Toney
Hopkins (assuming he's still fighting)
JMM
Calderon
Barrera-could be a bit better defensively maybe

Guzman if he'd tighten up his punches, can be a bit wild at times

If I've forgotten somebody, well that's the point, give me some names

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Judah needs to be on the list for "skill"

it's just mentality he's lacking.

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If I made a list of guys who are naturally the most athletically talented Judah would be on there

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Think I may have done something along these lines earlier but a bunch of posts have been wiped out so I'm not sure

When I say skills I don't mean natural athletic ability (pure speed, pure power, etc.), I mean defense, slipping punches, timing, skilled punches (how straight you throw them, technical punches), countering, etc.

I'll go with

Floyd
Toney
Hopkins (assuming he's still fighting)
JMM
Calderon
Barrera-could be a bit better defensively maybe

Guzman if he'd tighten up his punches, can be a bit wild at times

If I've forgotten somebody, well that's the point, give me some names

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Judah needs to be on the list for "skill"

it's just mentality he's lacking.

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If I made a list of guys who are naturally the most athletically talented Judah would be on there

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I saw the first Spinks bout and he was outboxed despite having strong points in the fight, same thing with PBF

I agree with most suggestions but what about Zab Judah?
I think he has outstanding skills regarding speed and accuracy and we all saw it in the first 4 rounds of his fight wirh PBF (untill he was mentally broken again)
I just thought he deserved a mention.

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If I was as great as PBF, I would be fighting like 8 times a year.

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If I was Floyd, I'd be taking cocaine and surrounding myself with white women.

I forgot, Floyd already does the latter. ;D heheh

PBF
Toney
Winky
JMM
Calderon
Hopkins
ODLH

As for newbies that look like they have the goods:
D-Hop
Dawson
Segura

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PBF
Toney
Winky
JMM
Calderon
Hopkins
ODLH

As for newbies that look like they have the goods:
D-Hop
Dawson
Segura

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I don't know much about Segura, what does he fight at, 112?

And D-Hop is a promising prospect

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PBF
Toney
Winky
JMM
Calderon
Hopkins
ODLH

As for newbies that look like they have the goods:
D-Hop
Dawson
Segura

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I don't know much about Segura, what does he fight at, 112?

And D-Hop is a promising prospect

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Yeah! he fights at 112, I've seen him fight 3 times he smart and patient though I'm sure theres others out there these are the ones that came to mind.
D-Hop has very good lateral movements and you can tell hes seen/studies B-Hop his movements in the ring are very similar to B-hops

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I agree with most suggestions but what about Zab Judah?
I think he has outstanding skills regarding speed and accuracy and we all saw it in the first 4 rounds of his fight wirh PBF (untill he was mentally broken again)
I just thought he deserved a mention.

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He didn't break, Mayweather figured him out.

I don't see why Judah would be on this list at all. True, he has speed. With speed comes accuracy, naturally. But his jab is terrible. Most boxers with skill have very good jabs and Judah's jab is one he just puts out there with no effectiveness whatsoever. Skilled boxers do a good job of avoiding power shots. Judah gets hit with power shots and of course, his chin is glass. Skilled boxers adjust during fights as Mayweather did against Judah after the fourth round and as Collazo did against Hatton after the first round, and as Quintana did against Julio after the first round. Judah does not have the ability to adjust. Judah should not even be mentioned in this discussion, definitely not in the last four years.

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I agree with most suggestions but what about Zab Judah?
I think he has outstanding skills regarding speed and accuracy and we all saw it in the first 4 rounds of his fight wirh PBF (untill he was mentally broken again)
I just thought he deserved a mention.

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He didn't break, Mayweather figured him out.

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I agree, seems like most people on this forum are saying it was more of Judah losing the fight rather than saying it was Floyd who won it, it was a major ass whoppin and PBF deserves the credit for a great fight, many people mention Judah as one of the most skilled fighters in the world and then turn around and say who has PBF fought. That makes no sense to me.