BHOP v RJJ - If the fight had taken place at a different time
OK - so this full of hypertheticals, but what if RJJ and BHOP's fight had've taken placed when both were prime (assuming it was at 160 or 168) would the outcome of been the same
I say yes!!
I am still a Roy Jones believer (by that I mean I still believer he WAS great) and fail to believe how so many people have jumped ship. I don't think the recent KOs have any bearing on his legacy and don't think that he was always there for the taking like that.
Don't get me wrong I don't like the geezer, just find it funny how peoples memories are so short term.
So what about BHOP v RJJ then :D
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this is interesting round between them round 8
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i dont think hopkins was in his prime there i think he peaked few years later if it happened both prime for prime well when they first met jones won by 8 rounds to 4 a peaked hopkins would make it tougher but i still see it 7 rounds to 5 or maybe 6 rounds to 5 with one even for jones
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yeah agreed,nice vid mate,hey how do u upload all these vid do u have to save the to the harddrive first id love to know ;D
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yeah agreed,nice vid mate,hey how do u upload all these vid do u have to save the to the harddrive first id love to know ;D
i didnt upload that one mate just remember seeing it on youtube so just streamed it so peeps could see  8) the ones i do upload ive got them on disks
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Hopkins got $150,000 dollars for that Jones fight. He was offered $6 million for the return when he was undisputed middleweight champ.
You reckon he knew Jones had his number? ;)
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Me thinks you are probably right ;)
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Hopkins got $150,000 dollars for that Jones fight. He was offered $6 million for the return when he was undisputed middleweight champ.
You reckon he knew Jones had his number? ;)
I doubt Hopkins has ever thought that anyone has had his number. He's one of the most self confident and assured fighters ever to lace up the gloves.
It is far more likely that his ego felt he was worth more money and that he he should have a greater share of the split than that he thought Jones Jr was too good for him.
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Hopkins got $150,000 dollars for that Jones fight. He was offered $6 million for the return when he was undisputed middleweight champ.
You reckon he knew Jones had his number? ;)
I doubt Hopkins has ever thought that anyone has had his number. He's one of the most self confident and assured fighters ever to lace up the gloves.
It is far more likely that his ego felt he was worth more money and that he he should have a greater share of the split than that he thought Jones Jr was too good for him.
My mentality though is that its a lot of money and if I was confident of winning then it would only lead to better things down the road, and at the very least the win I was expecting to get anyways....
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Heres a comment from him at the time
"My career is not based and predicated on me fighting Roy Jones," Hopkins said.
"I'm glad that I have three belts because that means I have three mandatories a year and I can make $2 million or $3 million dollars every time I step in the ring with Donald Duck. I can deal with that."
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Heres a comment from him at the time
"My career is not based and predicated on me fighting Roy Jones," Hopkins said.
"I'm glad that I have three belts because that means I have three mandatories a year and I can make $2 million or $3 million dollars every time I step in the ring with Donald Duck. I can deal with that."
Sounds like a good business model to me
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Hopkins got $150,000 dollars for that Jones fight. He was offered $6 million for the return when he was undisputed middleweight champ.
You reckon he knew Jones had his number? ;)
Not really, I think Hopkins was just sincere in wanting 50-50, and I believe he would have taken the fight if Roy agreed to it.. But even so, he made 15 million to fight De La Hoya, so it's really nothing you can hold against Hopkins.
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i dont think hopkins was in his prime there i think he peaked few years later if it happened both prime for prime well when they first met jones won by 8 rounds to 4 a peaked hopkins would make it tougher but i still see it 7 rounds to 5 or maybe 6 rounds to 5 with one even for jones
Everyone likes to say Hopkins wasn't in his prime. But I think its obvious that Roy wasn't either. And Roy went into that fight with a broken right hand. So I take that into consideration, and I don't at any level see Hopkins outboxing Roy. So I think it would be a more convincing win for Roy.
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i have the whole fight on my pc. i tried to put it on youtube but wouldn't let me. i will go with hopkins
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hopkins is a counter guy he waits on you, hes awesome at it like toney but on roy you cant wait and expect to win in his prime, you gotta have something to nullify his speed, a long reach or a great jab, hopkins does not posess either enpough to beat jones, also a fighter with goohead movement side to side a smaller mike tyson, but he has never been seen at those weights
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Heres a comment from him at the time
"My career is not based and predicated on me fighting Roy Jones," Hopkins said.
"I'm glad that I have three belts because that means I have three mandatories a year and I can make $2 million or $3 million dollars every time I step in the ring with Donald Duck. I can deal with that."
Sounds like a good business model to me
Yeah I agree (although he overestimated his worth a little at that time) but it also says alot about Hopkins that he would rather fight Joppy, Hakkar etc for a few hundred thousand dollars than accept a massive career highest pay day to get revenge on the only man to have beat him (give the debut a swerve ;D) because he wouldn't accept a 40/60 split....he accepted $2.5m to Trinidads $9m
Anyway, obviously it worked out for him in the end earning the $10m for duffing up a little welterweight
Smart guy. ;)
