Lennox Lewis disses Evander Holyfield

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/dhb/chee_1016b06.htm

opinions??

Bad taste. I thought the idea of lrading by example meant keeping you mouth shut..
Im a bit disapointed to say the least.

Yeah me too. He has no bussiness to critisize somebody else that wants to compete at at older age.

Lennox is jealous. and wishes he could come back, but he knows in his heart that he is to old. Lennox said "he is an example to everyone that its ok to retire?" LOL who gives a flying fuk about Lewis? LOL.. nobody looking up to him for anything. what a joke. setting an example. fuk that ! O0
:coolclick: for the read tho. I got a good laugh !

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Refering to Evander Holyfield as an example, Lewis dissed the former Champ, saying: "Boxing is a sport where you can get stuck in it. Evander Holyfield is still boxing and he is getting beat by featherweights and really somebody needs to tell him to retire."

Lewis has no intentions of returning to boxing, adding: "I set the format for this and I am showing all the boxers its okay to retire. The goal is to retire on top."

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Lewis is right that he has set the example whilst the other greats of his era ( Bowe , Tyson and Holyfield ) are struggling against limited opposition .

Even though this is true I wish Evander the best and hope he wins back a title . Not many are as fortunate as Lennox who beat every guy he fought and achieved everything . Evander obviously feels there is more to do

i agree he should retire but who the f..ck does lewis think he is?one of the greats?i think not!!!All the boring pussy did was beat greats that were well and truly past there primes!!! ;D

has any one ever heard of Jim Elliot? ::**

This loser's alter-ego which he uses to try and gain traffic to his crappy forums that only he posts on...

so beating a 39 year old evander on points and a 38 year old tyson just after tyson came out of jail was fat and lewis said we either fight now or never...................what a great warrrior this lewis was, only fighjting tyson once he's way past his best and out of shape having his first fight in 2 years yeah lewis is a real gladiater my god what a fighter plus he demanded to much to fight bowe when bowe was world champ that shows great confidence on top of it all he was jealous of frank bruno's popularity, unlike lewis bruno had the guts to take a fight against tyson when iron mike was the baddest man on the planet and frank did his best and when he lost he didn't make excuses he said i did my best and it wasn't enough i'm sorry i let british boxing fans down. lennox never fought the top guys unless they were only half the men they once were and even then he couldn't do the job right, when he got beat every excuse in the book was used, thats why in england bruno is held much higher and loved by all with lewis way behide him because frank didn't go around calling people uncle toms and talking trash trying to be little others efforts, even today when bruno makes a personal appearece peoiple stand and cheer, how many does lewis make. so i'm not suprised about lewis's coments about evander........its what lewis does best.......be little others

Is Lewis wrong? I dont get whats so offensive about it, ok Holyfield hasnt been beaten by a featherweight so at worst Lewis is being a bit cheeky.

If any of us were speaking about getting out of boxing it the right time wouldn't we all use Holyfield as an example of what NOT to do?

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Originally Posted by nuclear bull

so beating a 39 year old evander on points and a 38 year old tyson just after tyson came out of jail was fat and lewis said we either fight now or never...................what a great warrrior this lewis was, only fighjting tyson once he's way past his best and out of shape having his first fight in 2 years yeah lewis is a real gladiater my god what a fighter plus he demanded to much to fight bowe when bowe was world champ that shows great confidence on top of it all he was jealous of frank bruno's popularity, unlike lewis bruno had the guts to take a fight against tyson when iron mike was the baddest man on the planet and frank did his best and when he lost he didn't make excuses he said i did my best and it wasn't enough i'm sorry i let british boxing fans down. lennox never fought the top guys unless they were only half the men they once were and even then he couldn't do the job right, when he got beat every excuse in the book was used, thats why in england bruno is held much higher and loved by all with lewis way behide him because frank didn't go around calling people uncle toms and talking trash trying to be little others efforts, even today when bruno makes a personal appearece peoiple stand and cheer, how many does lewis make. so i'm not suprised about lewis's coments about evander........its what lewis does best.......be little others

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The last time I saw them in the same building at the same time was at the Michael Watson fund raiser . Lewis had queues of people lining up to get his autograph . Bruno was by himself .

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Originally Posted by nuclear bull

so beating a 39 year old evander on points and a 38 year old tyson just after tyson came out of jail was fat and lewis said we either fight now or never...................what a great warrrior this lewis was, only fighjting tyson once he's way past his best and out of shape having his first fight in 2 years yeah lewis is a real gladiater my god what a fighter plus he demanded to much to fight bowe when bowe was world champ that shows great confidence on top of it all he was jealous of frank bruno's popularity, unlike lewis bruno had the guts to take a fight against tyson when iron mike was the baddest man on the planet and frank did his best and when he lost he didn't make excuses he said i did my best and it wasn't enough i'm sorry i let british boxing fans down. lennox never fought the top guys unless they were only half the men they once were and even then he couldn't do the job right, when he got beat every excuse in the book was used, thats why in england bruno is held much higher and loved by all with lewis way behide him because frank didn't go around calling people uncle toms and talking trash trying to be little others efforts, even today when bruno makes a personal appearece peoiple stand and cheer, how many does lewis make. so i'm not suprised about lewis's coments about evander........its what lewis does best.......be little others

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in there first fight i thought holy was 37 anyways he beat ray mercer gary mason who was 35-0 he beat tommy morrison andrew golota who was fresh of battering bowe holyfield was still decent fighter he also beat razor ruddock who was fresh off giving tyson two very hard fights lewis has beaten alot of good fighters so i dont know what ur on about mate to name few more david tua who almost beat ike who was excellent fighter he beat vitali aswell shannon briggs and frank bruno

Lewis is absolutely right to say that...someone has to say it to evander...you claim yourself to be fan of this man...the only way to be a fan of evander is to wish him to retire healthy...

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Originally Posted by nuclear bull

so beating a 39 year old evander on points and a 38 year old tyson just after tyson came out of jail was fat and lewis said we either fight now or never...................what a great warrrior this lewis was, only fighjting tyson once he's way past his best and out of shape having his first fight in 2 years yeah lewis is a real gladiater my god what a fighter plus he demanded to much to fight bowe when bowe was world champ that shows great confidence on top of it all he was jealous of frank bruno's popularity, unlike lewis bruno had the guts to take a fight against tyson when iron mike was the baddest man on the planet and frank did his best and when he lost he didn't make excuses he said i did my best and it wasn't enough i'm sorry i let british boxing fans down. lennox never fought the top guys unless they were only half the men they once were and even then he couldn't do the job right, when he got beat every excuse in the book was used, thats why in england bruno is held much higher and loved by all with lewis way behide him because frank didn't go around calling people uncle toms and talking trash trying to be little others efforts, even today when bruno makes a personal appearece peoiple stand and cheer, how many does lewis make. so i'm not suprised about lewis's coments about evander........its what lewis does best.......be little others

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in there first fight i thought holy was 37 anyways he beat ray mercer gary mason who was 35-0 he beat tommy morrison andrew golota who was fresh of battering bowe holyfield was still decent fighter he also beat razor ruddock who was fresh off giving tyson two very hard fights lewis has beaten alot of good fighters so i dont know what ur on about mate to name few more david tua who almost beat ike who was excellent fighter he beat vitali aswell shannon briggs and frank bruno

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sorry dude i gotta pull u up there mate....firstly mercer and golota were mediocre at best,morrison was the glass jawed great white hype,david tua was a clone of an old mike tyson very one dimentional,shannon briggs was crap,why do u think big george hand picked him ,frank was past his prime and so was holy and tyson ,so the only good fighter he fought was vitali and the big russian knocked lewis sensless......ruddick was just ok..when he fought tyson ,mike had transformed into a conventional fighter,he was pretty easy to hit,he showed non of the head movement he was famous for with rooney,wich made ruddick look credible but he was just ur typical tall HW with lazy offence and no defence!!!!........just my opinion bro! ;D

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so beating a 39 year old evander on points and a 38 year old tyson just after tyson came out of jail was fat and lewis said we either fight now or never...................what a great warrrior this lewis was, only fighjting tyson once he's way past his best and out of shape having his first fight in 2 years yeah lewis is a real gladiater my god what a fighter plus he demanded to much to fight bowe when bowe was world champ that shows great confidence on top of it all he was jealous of frank bruno's popularity, unlike lewis bruno had the guts to take a fight against tyson when iron mike was the baddest man on the planet and frank did his best and when he lost he didn't make excuses he said i did my best and it wasn't enough i'm sorry i let british boxing fans down. lennox never fought the top guys unless they were only half the men they once were and even then he couldn't do the job right, when he got beat every excuse in the book was used, thats why in england bruno is held much higher and loved by all with lewis way behide him because frank didn't go around calling people uncle toms and talking trash trying to be little others efforts, even today when bruno makes a personal appearece peoiple stand and cheer, how many does lewis make. so i'm not suprised about lewis's coments about evander........its what lewis does best.......be little others

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in there first fight i thought holy was 37 anyways he beat ray mercer gary mason who was 35-0 he beat tommy morrison andrew golota who was fresh of battering bowe holyfield was still decent fighter he also beat razor ruddock who was fresh off giving tyson two very hard fights lewis has beaten alot of good fighters so i dont know what ur on about mate to name few more david tua who almost beat ike who was excellent fighter he beat vitali aswell shannon briggs and frank bruno

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sorry dude i gotta pull u up there mate....firstly mercer and golota were mediocre at best,morrison was the glass jawed great white hype,david tua was a clone of an old mike tyson very one dimentional,shannon briggs was crap,why do u think big george hand picked him ,frank was past his prime and so was holy and tyson ,so the only good fighter he fought was vitali and the big russian knocked lewis sensless......ruddick was just ok..when he fought tyson ,mike had transformed into a conventional fighter,he was pretty easy to hit,he showed non of the head movement he was famous for with rooney,wich made ruddick look credible but he was just ur typical tall HW with lazy offence and no defence!!!!........just my opinion bro! ;D

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no problem mate ur allowed ur opinion mercer was good and had iron chin golota was good aswell remember him battering bowe in them 2 fights yep i agree about morrison he had some skills but a weak chin briggs is ok tyson did move hes head in 1st fight ruddock was good i think with excellent power tua is good fighter in my book aswell excellent chin and good workrate like what he showed against ike but thats my opinion anyway mate

Foreman lost to the hand picked Briggs and Vitali got beat.

Fact...........Bro ;)

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Originally Posted by nuclear bull

so beating a 39 year old evander on points and a 38 year old tyson just after tyson came out of jail was fat and lewis said we either fight now or never...................what a great warrrior this lewis was, only fighjting tyson once he's way past his best and out of shape having his first fight in 2 years yeah lewis is a real gladiater my god what a fighter plus he demanded to much to fight bowe when bowe was world champ that shows great confidence on top of it all he was jealous of frank bruno's popularity, unlike lewis bruno had the guts to take a fight against tyson when iron mike was the baddest man on the planet and frank did his best and when he lost he didn't make excuses he said i did my best and it wasn't enough i'm sorry i let british boxing fans down. lennox never fought the top guys unless they were only half the men they once were and even then he couldn't do the job right, when he got beat every excuse in the book was used, thats why in england bruno is held much higher and loved by all with lewis way behide him because frank didn't go around calling people uncle toms and talking trash trying to be little others efforts, even today when bruno makes a personal appearece peoiple stand and cheer, how many does lewis make. so i'm not suprised about lewis's coments about evander........its what lewis does best.......be little others

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in there first fight i thought holy was 37 anyways he beat ray mercer gary mason who was 35-0 he beat tommy morrison andrew golota who was fresh of battering bowe holyfield was still decent fighter he also beat razor ruddock who was fresh off giving tyson two very hard fights lewis has beaten alot of good fighters so i dont know what ur on about mate to name few more david tua who almost beat ike who was excellent fighter he beat vitali aswell shannon briggs and frank bruno

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sorry dude i gotta pull u up there mate....firstly mercer and golota were mediocre at best,morrison was the glass jawed great white hype,david tua was a clone of an old mike tyson very one dimentional,shannon briggs was crap,why do u think big george hand picked him ,frank was past his prime and so was holy and tyson ,so the only good fighter he fought was vitali and the big russian knocked lewis sensless......ruddick was just ok..when he fought tyson ,mike had transformed into a conventional fighter,he was pretty easy to hit,he showed non of the head movement he was famous for with rooney,wich made ruddick look credible but he was just ur typical tall HW with lazy offence and no defence!!!!........just my opinion bro! ;D

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no problem mate ur allowed ur opinion mercer was good and had iron chin golota was good aswell remember him battering bowe in them 2 fights yep i agree about morrison he had some skills but a weak chin briggs is ok he did move hes head in 1st fight ruddock was good i think with excellent power tua is good fighter in my book aswell excellent chin and good workrate like what he showed against ike but thats my opinion anyway mate

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cool bananas!i guess well have to agree to disagree ;D

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cmon man!! every one knows that forman won that was worse than the holy lewis draw dicission and vitali was ahead on points FACK..............JACK!!!!

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okey dokey :o ;D

Lmao,
So he wants everyone to run like a bitch like he did. But hey he retired the champ! lmao gimmie a break.
I wish evander would retire, hes my favorite boxer ever, since i was real young i would watch him. He has heart, maybe to much for his own good. But lennox needs to remember, not everyone wants to be rememberd as a coward that retired with a belt.

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Lmao,
So he wants everyone to run like a bitch like he did. But hey he retired the champ! lmao gimmie a break.
I wish evander would retire, hes my favorite boxer ever, since i was real young i would watch him. He has heart, maybe to much for his own good. But lennox needs to remember, not everyone wants to be rememberd as a coward that retired with a belt.

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Yes but only moronic cunts would remember him like that

obviously boxing fans don't. ;)

I just loved Gus's comments in the other thread about Lewis ducking Byrd and Ruiz. Thats proper ducking that is ;D

Silly lewis, he should know by now unless your form the USA you can't say a bad word about any US fighte, what was the silly boy thinking:(

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I just loved Gus's comments in the other thread about Lewis ducking Byrd and Ruiz. Thats proper ducking that is ;D

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;D

Old Gus sure does know a duck when he see's one

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Lmao,
So he wants everyone to run like a bitch like he did. But hey he retired the champ! lmao gimmie a break.
I wish evander would retire, hes my favorite boxer ever, since i was real young i would watch him. He has heart, maybe to much for his own good. But lennox needs to remember, not everyone wants to be rememberd as a coward that retired with a belt.

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Yes but only moronic cunts would remember him like that

obviously boxing fans don't. ;)

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Well, if thinking lennox lewis ran away from the HWD is being a Moronic Cunt, THEN GIVE ME A GOD DAMN DUNCE CAP. dont really care.

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Originally Posted by Preme

Silly lewis, he should know by now unless your form the USA you can't say a bad word about any US fighte, what was the silly boy thinking:(

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Or is it that if any fan that lives in the USA doesnt agree with a fighter outside of the USA is a twit?

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Lmao,
So he wants everyone to run like a bitch like he did. But hey he retired the champ! lmao gimmie a break.
I wish evander would retire, hes my favorite boxer ever, since i was real young i would watch him. He has heart, maybe to much for his own good. But lennox needs to remember, not everyone wants to be rememberd as a coward that retired with a belt.

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Yes but only moronic cunts would remember him like that

obviously boxing fans don't. ;)

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Well, if thinking lennox lewis ran away from the HWD is being a Moronic c***, THEN GIVE ME A GOD DAMN DUNCE CAP. dont really care.

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Silly lewis, he should know by now unless your form the USA you can't say a bad word about any US fighte, what was the silly boy thinking:(

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Or is it that if any fan that lives in the USA doesnt agree with a fighter outside of the USA is a twit?

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umm dont make me laugh lewis run from byrd give the guy a break he fought everyone he would destroy byrd like wlad did he beat everybody in the division now i dont get what ur saying running from who id love to know ??

bull fucking shit. lewis dominated the division and was undisputed champ. beat some awesome fighters and spanked most of the yanks.

i think we have covered this in 3 different lennox lewis posts.
Refer to those...not going to go through it every time those posts end up on page 2 or 3 lol

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bull F****** S***. lewis dominated the division and was undisputed champ. beat some awesome fighters and spanked most of the yanks.

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its what im talkin bout....

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i think we have covered this in 3 different lennox lewis posts.
Refer to those...not going to go through it every time those posts end up on page 2 or 3 lol

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well dont come out with bs about him running he fought everyone then it wouldnt end up with loads of pages ;)

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Is Lewis wrong? I dont get whats so offensive about it, ok Holyfield hasnt been beaten by a featherweight so at worst Lewis is being a bit cheeky.

If any of us were speaking about getting out of boxing it the right time wouldn't we all use Holyfield as an example of what NOT to do?

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Agreed. I dont see the issue with what Lewis has said. It would be madness and quite pointless if Calzaghe was to stick around until his mid 40's. Lewis made the reference to Holyfield in order to clarify his feeling about the direction of Calzaghe's career....

Not even worth getting into really. Its common sense.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,37077.0.html

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...html#msg436808

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...html#msg418556

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,35488.0.html


just of few of the lennox debates, over the recent months.

JUST TO CLARIFY,
YES, I AGREE lennox lewis dominated his division (BUT, it was aweak one, with over hyped fighters, and past their prime greats)
YES, I AGREE lennox lewis was the best in his era (BUT, it was a weak one, with over hyped fighters, and past their prime greats)

And for the 1000 time, in which i will not debate any longer because its just beating a dead horse with a different stick. Lennox lewis DID TKO vitali because of a cut, but IMO he was on the path to losing the belt that night. Everyone knew it, the judges knew it (scorecards) the commentators knew it (doesnt mean much lol) and the people that paid their money to watch that fight knew it. Lennox lewis promised a rematch with vitali "i beat him today, and ill beat em again." Then after consulting with whom i believe is best trainer today (steward) he realized, the only fight he could have, that anyone would wanna see, is a rematch with the man that COULD/WOULD beat him. And he wanted no part of it.

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"Boxing is a sport where you can get stuck in it. Evander Holyfield is still boxing and he is getting beat by featherweights and really somebody needs to tell him to retire."

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thats a low blow to me..
I would like to see him retire, i just think that if anyone could understand why holyfield is doing something like this it would be a fellow fighter. But then again, lennox lewis retired with the belt ::**

I was laughing at Holy before, but seriously the man is a LEGEND, let him do what he wants. I aint gona sit here taking the piss out of him simply becuase he choses to come back and fight and if he passes his tests then its his choice simple as.

Jealous that he'll never be the legend that Holyfield is

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so beating a 39 year old evander on points and a 38 year old tyson just after tyson came out of jail was fat and lewis said we either fight now or never...................what a great warrrior this lewis was, only fighjting tyson once he's way past his best and out of shape having his first fight in 2 years yeah lewis is a real gladiater my god what a fighter plus he demanded to much to fight bowe when bowe was world champ that shows great confidence on top of it all he was jealous of frank bruno's popularity, unlike lewis bruno had the guts to take a fight against tyson when iron mike was the baddest man on the planet and frank did his best and when he lost he didn't make excuses he said i did my best and it wasn't enough i'm sorry i let british boxing fans down. lennox never fought the top guys unless they were only half the men they once were and even then he couldn't do the job right, when he got beat every excuse in the book was used, thats why in england bruno is held much higher and loved by all with lewis way behide him because frank didn't go around calling people uncle toms and talking trash trying to be little others efforts, even today when bruno makes a personal appearece peoiple stand and cheer, how many does lewis make. so i'm not suprised about lewis's coments about evander........its what lewis does best.......be little others

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in there first fight i thought holy was 37 anyways he beat ray mercer gary mason who was 35-0 he beat tommy morrison andrew golota who was fresh of battering bowe holyfield was still decent fighter he also beat razor ruddock who was fresh off giving tyson two very hard fights lewis has beaten alot of good fighters so i dont know what ur on about mate to name few more david tua who almost beat ike who was excellent fighter he beat vitali aswell shannon briggs and frank bruno

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sorry dude i gotta pull u up there mate....firstly mercer and golota were mediocre at best,morrison was the glass jawed great white hype,david tua was a clone of an old mike tyson very one dimentional,shannon briggs was crap,why do u think big george hand picked him ,frank was past his prime and so was holy and tyson ,so the only good fighter he fought was vitali and the big russian knocked lewis sensless......ruddick was just ok..when he fought tyson ,mike had transformed into a conventional fighter,he was pretty easy to hit,he showed non of the head movement he was famous for with rooney,wich made ruddick look credible but he was just ur typical tall HW with lazy offence and no defence!!!!........just my opinion bro! ;D

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no problem mate ur allowed ur opinion mercer was good and had iron chin golota was good aswell remember him battering bowe in them 2 fights yep i agree about morrison he had some skills but a weak chin briggs is ok tyson did move hes head in 1st fight ruddock was good i think with excellent power tua is good fighter in my book aswell excellent chin and good workrate like what he showed against ike but thats my opinion anyway mate

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Mercer got a beat down from a 42 year old Larry Holmes didnt he ???

it pisses me off when people try to make out that lewis only won the klitchiko fight because of the cut. the fight only went half way and klitchiko wasn't really dominating. it was close.

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it pisses me off when people try to make out that lewis only won the klitchiko fight because of the cut. the fight only went half way and klitchiko wasn't really dominating. it was close.

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it was very close and vitali was landing some big shots especially in the 2nd rd thats why a rematch should have taken place but lewis new it was to risky!so he did the coward act and retired with his precious little belts! ;D

thats what I'm saying, he knew he was too old, some people age quicker, that Vitali fight goes one or 2 more rounds and Lewis retires without that belt. ;)

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so beating a 39 year old evander on points and a 38 year old tyson just after tyson came out of jail was fat and lewis said we either fight now or never...................what a great warrrior this lewis was, only fighjting tyson once he's way past his best and out of shape having his first fight in 2 years yeah lewis is a real gladiater my god what a fighter plus he demanded to much to fight bowe when bowe was world champ that shows great confidence on top of it all he was jealous of frank bruno's popularity, unlike lewis bruno had the guts to take a fight against tyson when iron mike was the baddest man on the planet and frank did his best and when he lost he didn't make excuses he said i did my best and it wasn't enough i'm sorry i let british boxing fans down. lennox never fought the top guys unless they were only half the men they once were and even then he couldn't do the job right, when he got beat every excuse in the book was used, thats why in england bruno is held much higher and loved by all with lewis way behide him because frank didn't go around calling people uncle toms and talking trash trying to be little others efforts, even today when bruno makes a personal appearece peoiple stand and cheer, how many does lewis make. so i'm not suprised about lewis's coments about evander........its what lewis does best.......be little others

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in there first fight i thought holy was 37 anyways he beat ray mercer gary mason who was 35-0 he beat tommy morrison andrew golota who was fresh of battering bowe holyfield was still decent fighter he also beat razor ruddock who was fresh off giving tyson two very hard fights lewis has beaten alot of good fighters so i dont know what ur on about mate to name few more david tua who almost beat ike who was excellent fighter he beat vitali aswell shannon briggs and frank bruno

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sorry dude i gotta pull u up there mate....firstly mercer and golota were mediocre at best,morrison was the glass jawed great white hype,david tua was a clone of an old mike tyson very one dimentional,shannon briggs was crap,why do u think big george hand picked him ,frank was past his prime and so was holy and tyson ,so the only good fighter he fought was vitali and the big russian knocked lewis sensless......ruddick was just ok..when he fought tyson ,mike had transformed into a conventional fighter,he was pretty easy to hit,he showed non of the head movement he was famous for with rooney,wich made ruddick look credible but he was just ur typical tall HW with lazy offence and no defence!!!!........just my opinion bro! ;D

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no problem mate ur allowed ur opinion mercer was good and had iron chin golota was good aswell remember him battering bowe in them 2 fights yep i agree about morrison he had some skills but a weak chin briggs is ok tyson did move hes head in 1st fight ruddock was good i think with excellent power tua is good fighter in my book aswell excellent chin and good workrate like what he showed against ike but thats my opinion anyway mate

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Mercer got a beat down from a 42 year old Larry Holmes didnt he ???

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yes and didnt holyfield have trouble with an old larry holmes didnt holmes win like 5 rounds against him and ur point is ?? that doesnt mean holyfield was bad either because he struggled against an older guy he also struggled against an old foreman but that doesnt make holyfield bad fighter does it mercer is still good regardless if he lost to an old holmes plus u forget mercer took lewis full distance and almost won i scored it a draw