Re: THIS is Margarito!?!?!?
You mean this is the only footage of Tony you have ever seen?
???
I don't know what fight you were watching, (lewis missed a lot) but that is Margarito. He takes a few blows to land his own hard body shots. Did you not see the body shots? Tony landed some nice power shots in that fight too. Tony Destroyed all 6 of lewis' heads in that fight in under two rounds.
Tony is a slow starter and has even been dropped early (like Tito) but he get's back up and does his thing. I don't care what people say about the Daniel Santos fight. It was a good fight and it was Tony's debut @ 154. Tony is a Welter not a Jr. Middleweight and did pretty good in that fight against a tough southpaw. Several clashings of the heads ended that fight and Santos got the hometown decision. The fight could have gone either way. Santos was 10 lbs heavier in that fight against Tony and Tony still was rocking him. I think it is fair to say that Tony does not have the power at Jr. Middle that he has at Welter. (Santos has a tough beard)
Re: THIS is Margarito!?!?!?
This was an outstanding video and you deserve a CC. Lewis may have 6 heads but it's a fact that he has no chin. Lewis looked like he was in command until the big shot, he has a long way to go before people label him the most dangerous opponent out there (Arum).
Re: THIS is Margarito!?!?!?
Just goes to show how different people can view the same thing and see it totally different. I didn't think that Lewis was in control. Just cause he was showboating, and he is faster, he wasn't landing clean shots. And he got clobbered. Don't see any outboxing at all.
Re: THIS is Margarito!?!?!?
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Originally Posted by Majesty
I was looking for some vids on youtube so I can put together a boxing vid(I'm working on 3) Trinidad, JMM and Margarito.
And I was looking for some Margarito ones and I stuble across this copy of the 6 heads lewis fight.
and .... (turn off the sound)
[youtube=425,350]hEtJGYhcUMI[/youtube]
Looks to me like he's getting outboxed before Margarito finally lowered the boom on his no chin. But THAT is the guy people think Mayweather is afraid of ??? If you get outboxed by 6 heads lewis.....
....
Anyway back to what I was doing, just thought you should see it.
Yea Floyd would jump in and out and just Frustrate the Hell out of Tony...Trust me Floyd has a mean Streak as well Dont be suprised if you see Tony Getting ROughed up in the Clinch..I like the Mayweather Forearm pressing down the back of the head as well as Pushing off and pushing off with the Forearm under the nose grinding as he pushes off....
Re: THIS is Margarito!?!?!?
Margarito has improved a lot since the 6 Heads destruction...that being said...6 gave him a lot of issues just watching that clip.
Never seen that fight admittedly though.
Floyd moves a hell of a lot more than that & hits harder than 6 Heads.
I still say that Floyd would dominate Margarito.
Re: THIS is Margarito!?!?!?
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Originally Posted by Majesty
I was looking for some vids on youtube so I can put together a boxing vid(I'm working on 3) Trinidad, JMM and Margarito.
And I was looking for some Margarito ones and I stuble across this copy of the 6 heads lewis fight.
and .... (turn off the sound)
[youtube=425,350]hEtJGYhcUMI[/youtube]
Looks to me like he's getting outboxed before Margarito finally lowered the boom on his no chin. But THAT is the guy people think Mayweather is afraid of ??? If you get outboxed by 6 heads lewis.....
....
Anyway back to what I was doing, just thought you should see it.
Majesty no ones claiming that Tony is invincible, or untouchable no.... He'll get hit, he'll get outboxed but you see the line that I highlighted......
Thats the thing you can stick and move you can do all your waist movement you can do all that, but when he lands his shots you better be ready.
The sentence you put made me laugh....
"before Margarito finally lowered the boom on his no chin" well OK..... thats how he fights he'll let you fire away and he takes 2 to land 1. Watch more Tony clips and you'll see it, thats something hes been criticised for before he turns too much of a counter puncher and needs to initiate action rather then wait around for his opponents.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Majesty
I was looking for some vids on youtube so I can put together a boxing vid(I'm working on 3) Trinidad, JMM and Margarito.
And I was looking for some Margarito ones and I stuble across this copy of the 6 heads lewis fight.
and .... (turn off the sound)
[youtube=425,350]hEtJGYhcUMI[/youtube]
Looks to me like he's getting outboxed before Margarito finally lowered the boom on his no chin. But THAT is the guy people think Mayweather is afraid of ??? If you get outboxed by 6 heads lewis.....
....
Anyway back to what I was doing, just thought you should see it.
Majesty no ones claiming that Tony is invincible, or untouchable no.... He'll get hit, he'll get outboxed but you see the line that I highlighted......
Thats the thing you can stick and move you can do all your waist movement you can do all that, but when he lands his shots you better be ready.
The sentence you put made me laugh....
"before Margarito finally lowered the boom on his no chin" well OK..... thats how he fights he'll let you fire away and he takes 2 to land 1. Watch more Tony clips and you'll see it, thats something hes been criticised for before he turns too much of a counter puncher and needs to initiate action rather then wait around for his opponents.
Won't help him when before his response his opponent(Floyd) is already halfway across the ring now would it?
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Margarito has improved a lot since the 6 Heads destruction...that being said...6 gave him a lot of issues just watching that clip.
Never seen that fight admittedly though.
Floyd moves a hell of a lot more than that & hits harder than 6 Heads.
I still say that Floyd would dominate Margarito.
Yep me too
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"Sixheads" Lewis aint that bad a fighter my boxing friends ! A tall southpaw. Sure he don't win them all, but he comes to fight.
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
"Sixheads" Lewis aint that bad a fighter my boxing friends ! A tall southpaw. Sure he don't win them all, but he comes to fight.
He left his skills in the shatter(quite literally)
His last fight he quit because of that reason
http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=19624
First fight was a headbutt and could nt continue, second fight against the same guy he was winning then left to go to the bathroom, then the third fight is going to happen in december, I wonder what happens then.
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
"Sixheads" Lewis aint that bad a fighter my boxing friends ! A tall southpaw. Sure he don't win them all, but he comes to fight.
He left his skills in the shatter(quite literally)
His last fight he quit because of that reason
http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=19624
First fight was a headbutt and could nt continue, second fight against the same guy he was winning then left to go to the bathroom, then the third fight is going to happen in december, I wonder what happens then.
I don't blame him.... When you gotta go, you gotta... What can I say :-\
;D
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
"Sixheads" Lewis aint that bad a fighter my boxing friends ! A tall southpaw. Sure he don't win them all, but he comes to fight.
He left his skills in the shatter(quite literally)
His last fight he quit because of that reason
http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=19624
First fight was a headbutt and could nt continue, second fight against the same guy he was winning then left to go to the bathroom, then the third fight is going to happen in december, I wonder what happens then.
I don't blame him.... When you gotta go, you gotta... What can I say :-\
;D
Gotta go gotta go gotta go right now! Someone should upload that fight and put the "Gotta go right now" song to it when he runs out of the ring
You know it's possible... see what can be done with the running scene from Bloodsport :)
[youtube=425,350]N_IAb_XmVa8[/youtube]
Re: THIS is Margarito!?!?!?
In regards to PBF fighting Tony.
Tony has the exact same style of chico, except he hits harder. But he's punches are not tight or particularly fast.
Mayweather will not only move more than williams, he'll hit twice as hard with 3 times the accuarcy.
Nuff said there 8)
Re: THIS is Margarito!?!?!?
i remember watching that fight. it was a few years back now though to be fair. 6 heads was getting ready to do an ali shuffle before margarito let go and got lucky.
Re: THIS is Margarito!?!?!?
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Originally Posted by The Bogeyman
In regards to PBF fighting Tony.
Tony has the exact same style of chico, except he hits harder. But he's punches are not tight or particularly fast.
Mayweather will not only move more than williams, he'll hit twice as hard with 3 times the accuarcy.
Nuff said there 8)
PBF hits twice as hard as who? And 3 times more accurate? Come on that's a little excessive. PBF is the top guy right now but he is human and he doesn't hit twice as hard as any welter weight. If PBF is 3x's more accurate he would have to be landing about 80% of his punches. Let's not make him into an immortal, he's still fighting and he is human.
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
i remember watching that fight. it was a few years back now though to be fair. 6 heads was getting ready to do an ali shuffle before margarito let go and got lucky.
If only 6 Heads had a chin he probably never would have lost
Re: THIS is Margarito!?!?!?
You make out as if 6 heads won 9 out of 10 rounds Majjie and was ko'ed by luck or something...Margarito is a notoriously slow started,lost the first round,but as soon as 6 Heads felt his power,with a chopping right hand,that was it..I thought it was a crushing beating 6 heads took on the ropes! Admittedly he is no PBF but that is an entirely different scenario..
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
You make out as if 6 heads won 9 out of 10 rounds Majjie and was ko'ed by luck or something...Margarito is a notoriously slow started,lost the first round,but as soon as 6 Heads felt his power,with a chopping right hand,that was it..I thought it was a crushing beating 6 heads took on the ropes! Admittedly he is no PBF but that is an entirely different scenario..
Not really, especially if he never caught Mayweather then he'd be waiting all day for a punch that never comes
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
You make out as if 6 heads won 9 out of 10 rounds Majjie and was ko'ed by luck or something...Margarito is a notoriously slow started,lost the first round,but as soon as 6 Heads felt his power,with a chopping right hand,that was it..I thought it was a crushing beating 6 heads took on the ropes! Admittedly he is no PBF but that is an entirely different scenario..
Not really, especially if he never caught Mayweather then he'd be waiting all day for a punch that never comes
Here is an example:
The diffence between Corrales and Margarito is that Tony will lunge forward to catch PBF and eventually will catch his mark. Corrales just stood there like an idiot or followed PBF around with out throwing any punches.(He took no chances) Zab was successful in this area. Zab is a bit chinny and yet he managed to take every shot PBF threw. (PBF is not the hardest puncher)
Zab was also timing PBF very nice and I think that Margarito although he is not as fast as Zab, he could time his punches and catch PBF. It would not be that hard since Margarito has a very nice reach.
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
You make out as if 6 heads won 9 out of 10 rounds Majjie and was ko'ed by luck or something...Margarito is a notoriously slow started,lost the first round,but as soon as 6 Heads felt his power,with a chopping right hand,that was it..I thought it was a crushing beating 6 heads took on the ropes! Admittedly he is no PBF but that is an entirely different scenario..
Not really, especially if he never caught Mayweather then he'd be waiting all day for a punch that never comes
Here is an example:
The diffence between Corrales and Margarito is that Tony will lunge forward to catch PBF and eventually will catch his mark. Corrales just stood there like an idiot or followed PBF around with out throwing any punches.(He took no chances) Zab was successful in this area. Zab is a bit chinny and yet he managed to take every shot PBF threw. (PBF is not the hardest puncher)
Zab was also timing PBF very nice and I think that Margarito although he is not as fast as Zab, he could time his punches and catch PBF. It would not be that hard since Margarito has a very nice reach.
Floyd's not a powerful as he once was, because his hands are fragile and over the years he has had to wear safety gloves, with more padding around the knuckle, less around the wrist , thus taking some of the mustard off his punching power. 4-5- years ago Floyd would have knocked Judah out.
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Wow.....so this is the superhyped margarito??
He has power........
at the cost of being too slow.
Not impressed.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
You make out as if 6 heads won 9 out of 10 rounds Majjie and was ko'ed by luck or something...Margarito is a notoriously slow started,lost the first round,but as soon as 6 Heads felt his power,with a chopping right hand,that was it..I thought it was a crushing beating 6 heads took on the ropes! Admittedly he is no PBF but that is an entirely different scenario..
Agreed. It took a while to land - but when he did !
Mayweather, sure has a bucket more skillz - but how would he deal with a Tony Bomb?
That's where i see Floyd slipping up - if he concentrates 110% and avoids the heat he'll smoke Tony in style - but if the bigger dude pops him a good 'en..... different story.
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
You make out as if 6 heads won 9 out of 10 rounds Majjie and was ko'ed by luck or something...Margarito is a notoriously slow started,lost the first round,but as soon as 6 Heads felt his power,with a chopping right hand,that was it..I thought it was a crushing beating 6 heads took on the ropes! Admittedly he is no PBF but that is an entirely different scenario..
Not really, especially if he never caught Mayweather then he'd be waiting all day for a punch that never comes
Here is an example:
The diffence between Corrales and Margarito is that Tony will lunge forward to catch PBF and eventually will catch his mark. Corrales just stood there like an idiot or followed PBF around with out throwing any punches.(He took no chances) Zab was successful in this area. Zab is a bit chinny and yet he managed to take every shot PBF threw. (PBF is not the hardest puncher)
Zab was also timing PBF very nice and I think that Margarito although he is not as fast as Zab, he could time his punches and catch PBF. It would not be that hard since Margarito has a very nice reach.
Margarito has some of the worst timing Ive ever seen. Shame on you for even saying otherwise.. Judah has brilliant timing and handspeed. For whatever flaws he has, you can't deny his ability as an offensive fighter. Tony doesn't have anywhere near the same kind of speed, accuracy, or timing. You have to realize that much.
