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Calzaghe says a Jermain Taylor fight is number one on his list
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Joe Calzaghe Wants Jermain Taylor: "It'd Be A Megafight"
By Michael Woods
Joe Calzaghe, his father/trainer Enzo and his promoter, Frank Warren, have been plotting the right course to take that will properly allow the Pugilistic Prince of Wales to make his mark upon America. For more than five years, they have drawn up blueprints for the mission to impress the US. They targeted Bernard Hopkins, and had a deal with B-Hop, only to have him double his asking price after agreeing to meet the Welsh southpaw. They zeroed in on Roy Jones, who scotched that best laid plan when he got KTFO by Antonio Tarver. The brain trust and the boxer have fixated on a new bull’s-eye, and I have to say, this candidate to put Calzaghe over the top with the US fight fans is the most logical person at this stage of the game. Yesterday, during an intimate media luncheon in Manhattan, Calzaghe and Warren shared their latest foil that they believe will elevate Calzaghe another few notches upward on the pound-for-pound lists: Jermain Taylor.
“Jermain Taylor is number one for me,” said Calzaghe. “He beat Hopkins, he’s young, undefeated, a massive test.”
To be upfront, I haven’t always been gentle in my critiques of Calzaghe, for staying put and taking the safer, more lucrative-in-the-short-term paydays on his home turf. And I haven’t always been so benign in my criticism of Warren, for posturing in securing opponents for Calzaghe, and letting money matters cloud his decision-making, instead of perhaps taking less money but gaining a greater upside benefit by matching Calzaghe with an American mega-star. Perhaps, I insinuated, Warren didn’t want to risk sending his prized possession into overly risky battles, and risk losing his cash cow. Yesterday, I was happy to shake hands with both men, and let them attach a face to a byline, so they might be able to properly picture my big, bald head with darts in it the next time I write something they maybe don’t fancy.
But meeting Calzaghe, who was humble and affable, and Warren, who ponied up for some damned fine Chilean sea bass, was beneficial to me. It humanized the two, and forced/allowed me to recast my take on Calzaghe slightly.
First, I have to look back on Calzaghe’s latest outing, against Sakio Bika on Oct. 14, and lessen my negativity on JC’s performance that evening in Manchester.
As I told Calzaghe, I believe my expectations were raised so high with his masterful work against Jeff Lacy, in his fight-of-the-year March victory, that when he looked so ordinary against the awkward ruffian Bika, I cringed. The fighter set me straight on the Bika bout, with ample humbleness and admirable honesty.
“I wanted to knock Bika out,” he said. “I was up for the Lacy fight. If I lost to Lacy it would have been catastrophic. People would have said about me, ‘I told you.’ With Bika, it’s not the same. You have to have that fear factor. As I said when I spoke to Sugar Ray Leonard in London, if I don’t perform my best against Bika I’m still going to win probably.”
Props to Calzaghe for this explanation. Hey, the guy is 34, he’s been around the merry-go-round so many times, he can’t be blamed for getting bored. He’s done more road work than a paver. He’s done enough situps for a lifetime.
Calzaghe shed more light on the Bika brawl, and the reason behind his less than stellar showing.
“After Lacy, I was trying too hard,” he said. “It was my first fight for HBO, I wanted it to be spectacular.”
Also, because of the old, familiar hand woes, Calzaghe sparred just 40 rounds for Bika, and those were light rounds.
Going back another fight, to the Lacy effort, Calzaghe showed his humble side to even greater effect.
“On the Lacy fight, I gladly went twelve rounds, but I ask, will I ever fight that good again? Who knows?”
So I must publicly backtrack, and dial back the criticism on Calzaghe a sliver: after all, the man hasn’t lost in 42 bouts. Do I think maybe some slightly tougher opponents could have been summoned over the years? Perhaps. But the 168-175 neighborhood isn’t like the golden palace of the welterweights. There aren’t too many Hall of Famers dotting those ranks in the years Calzaghe has hit his prime.
And I will dial it back further if his American Invasion 2007 comes off.
The plan for the attack as of now: fight in his homeland, in Cardiff, probably in February. The foe could be Danish WBA/WBC 168 titlist Mikkel Kessler, as Warren has been back and forth in early talks with Kessler’s promoter, Mogens Palle. Or the foe could be an American of high standing, perhaps Glen Johnson, who lost a split decision to IBF light heavy champ Clint Woods on Sept. 2. Then, after heavy HBO publicity work, a scrap with WBC/WBO middleweight champ Taylor, hopefully in Madison Square Garden, perhaps in June or July.
Warren has already run that by Lou DiBella, Taylor’s promoter, and DiBella seems game.
Calzaghe understands that New York is the media capital of the world, that Las Vegas is the epicenter of the fight game. To truly get his just props, and be thought of not as someone who played it safe and feasted on home cooking, Calzaghe knows he will have to come here. And he’s not sounding like he’s considering ducking Taylor.
“If I fight Taylor like I did versus Lacy, nobody can beat me,” he said. “Nothing’s certain, but I’m confident I’ll win. Jermain Taylor and me would be a megafight.”
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He should still fight Kessler first IMO
Taylor's gotta move up one of these days though, he's too big to stay a long time at 160
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He defintely wont be fighting Kessler anytime soon thats for sure.
From Frank Warrens site - Calzaghes fight in Febuary will be shown on HBO, and it will be a big one.
I've already started negotiations with Mikkel Kessler, who unified the WBC and WBA super-middleweight titles last weekend, and that's a natural fight to make.
But Kessler's people have begun stalling on coming to the UK, and have suggested the fight go ahead in Denmark.
I can tell you right from the start that's not an option, because Calzaghe is the draw.
It was his fight that was shown in full on HBO - they screened highlights of Kessler's impressive win over Markus Beyer - and because of his victory over Lacy, he's seen as the division's number one by the market that matters, America.
Joe's next title defence will be his 20th, which will equal Bernard Hopkins' mark and he deserves that fight in the UK.
After the Beyer win, Kessler - who is half English - indicated that he would have no problem in fighting over here, I just hope he now sticks to his word.
http://www.frankwarren.tv/drill/News...till-king.html
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well when he fights kessler if he wins thats right step for him to take
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Nice article Ouma.
I dont think Taylor-v-Calzaghe will happen anytime soon, IMO Taylor will season himself at 160 for as long as he can (18 months to 2 years) andf then move up to fill Calzaghe's void.
In the mean time i feel that Calzaghe cant hang around at 168 much longer.
A fight with Kessler should be on the cards and after that we'll see if he can stay at 168?
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Originally Posted by Fenster
He defintely wont be fighting Kessler anytime soon thats for sure.
From Frank Warrens site -
Calzaghes fight in Febuary will be shown on HBO, and it will be a big one.
I've already started negotiations with Mikkel Kessler, who unified the WBC and WBA super-middleweight titles last weekend, and that's a natural fight to make.
But Kessler's people have begun stalling on coming to the UK, and have suggested the fight go ahead in Denmark.
I can tell you right from the start that's not an option, because Calzaghe is the draw.
It was his fight that was shown in full on HBO - they screened highlights of Kessler's impressive win over Markus Beyer - and because of his victory over Lacy, he's seen as the division's number one by the market that matters, America.
Joe's next title defence will be his 20th, which will equal Bernard Hopkins' mark and he deserves that fight in the UK.
After the Beyer win, Kessler - who is half English - indicated that he would have no problem in fighting over here, I just hope he now sticks to his word.
http://www.frankwarren.tv/drill/News...till-king.html
Ah fook sake, it always an episode about why the fight wont be made!
Just go over there and kick his Royal ass ;D
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Unfortunately, as we all know, Joe don't do traveling
So the 20th - Hopkins record equaling fight - (now there's a selling point ::**) will be in the UK.... Kessler, and the top American boys aren't interested in coming over...What a surprise ::**
If they cant dig out another Bika
Brian Magee's always available 8)
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kessler then taylor. the kessler fight should happen. but if it did and joe won and unified the division, if he retired with all the titles wouldnt it just leave a mess of a division and all the titles would go to the number 1 contenders?
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Unfortunately, as we all know, Joe don't do traveling
So the 20th - Hopkins record equaling fight - (now there's a selling point ::**) will be in the UK.... Kessler, and the top American boys aren't interested in coming over...What a surprise ::**
If they cant dig out another Bika
Brian Magee's always available 8)
Joe's travelled more than alot of fighters, not as much as he should have but he's fought
in both Germany and Denmark and won well in both. Yes he should go to America, but this fight will
be his 20 defence and mean alot to his fans so why not fight it on your home turf, nearly every boxer
would do the same
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Unfortunately, as we all know, Joe don't do traveling
So the 20th - Hopkins record equaling fight - (now there's a selling point ::**) will be in the UK.... Kessler, and the top American boys aren't interested in coming over...What a surprise ::**
If they cant dig out another Bika
Brian Magee's always available 8)
Horrible chin aside, Brian Magee is a damn good opponent !
He is far more game than 90% of everyone Calzaghe has ever faced.
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I know... ::** Just like the Roy Jones fight... And the Hopkins fight... And the... well... U get it >:mad
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Originally Posted by ~Phil~
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Unfortunately, as we all know, Joe don't do traveling
So the 20th - Hopkins record equaling fight - (now there's a selling point ::**) will be in the UK.... Kessler, and the top American boys aren't interested in coming over...What a surprise ::**
If they cant dig out another Bika
Brian Magee's always available 8)
Joe's travelled more than alot of fighters, not as much as he should have but he's fought
in both Germany and Denmark and won well in both. Yes he should go to America, but this fight will
be his 20 defence and mean alot to his fans so why not fight it on your home turf, nearly every boxer
would do the same
But it HAS to be a meaningful defence....we have had one "rest" against Bikia....
Sure, he could coast out his career with relatively easy fights....but if you have the talent why bother??
Having just read Hattons biography and seen how he parted ways with Warren, it makes me wonder a little at Joes drive in terms of striving to fight the best...as much as I like him, he has fought a fair share of imported fodder....
Sure he can sell out MEN arena or even a stadium....but the real goal is surely to always fight the best you can wherever....
Maybe its a little bit of negativity on my part but Calzaghe NEEDS 3 BIG fights to cement a legacy as an ATG...
It can be done but negotiations can fall early in planning a fight...
If a big fight comes of I will feel appeased....but I worry about who might be dished up for this defence....
Remember folks, Im a huge Calzaghe fan...but I need to vent some negativity every now and then...
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Originally Posted by miles
Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Phil~
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Unfortunately, as we all know, Joe don't do traveling
So the 20th - Hopkins record equaling fight - (now there's a selling point ::**) will be in the UK.... Kessler, and the top American boys aren't interested in coming over...What a surprise ::**
If they cant dig out another Bika
Brian Magee's always available 8)
Joe's travelled more than alot of fighters, not as much as he should have but he's fought
in both Germany and Denmark and won well in both. Yes he should go to America, but this fight will
be his 20 defence and mean alot to his fans so why not fight it on your home turf, nearly every boxer
would do the same
But it HAS to be a meaningful defence....we have had one "rest" against Bikia....
Sure, he could coast out his career with relatively easy fights....but if you have the talent why bother??
Having just read Hattons biography and seen how he parted ways with Warren, it makes me wonder a little at Joes drive in terms of striving to fight the best...as much as I like him, he has fought a fair share of imported fodder....
Sure he can sell out MEN arena or even a stadium....but the real goal is surely to always fight the best you can wherever....
Maybe its a little bit of negativity on my part but Calzaghe NEEDS 3 BIG fights to cement a legacy as an ATG...
It can be done but negotiations can fall early in planning a fight...
If a big fight comes of I will feel appeased....but I worry about who might be dished up for this defence....
Remember folks, Im a huge Calzaghe fan...but I need to vent some negativity every now and then...
yeah he should be looking 4 a big name, but to get that he'll have to travel and
unfortuntly Warren won't let him take the risk, he should have copied Hatton and left
Warren years ago, hopefully though Kessler will decide to travel, then after Joe has
to hit the States
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Originally Posted by ~Phil~
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Originally Posted by miles
Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Phil~
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Unfortunately, as we all know, Joe don't do traveling
So the 20th - Hopkins record equaling fight - (now there's a selling point ::**) will be in the UK.... Kessler, and the top American boys aren't interested in coming over...What a surprise ::**
If they cant dig out another Bika
Brian Magee's always available 8)
Joe's travelled more than alot of fighters, not as much as he should have but he's fought
in both Germany and Denmark and won well in both. Yes he should go to America, but this fight will
be his 20 defence and mean alot to his fans so why not fight it on your home turf, nearly every boxer
would do the same
But it HAS to be a meaningful defence....we have had one "rest" against Bikia....
Sure, he could coast out his career with relatively easy fights....but if you have the talent why bother??
Having just read Hattons biography and seen how he parted ways with Warren, it makes me wonder a little at Joes drive in terms of striving to fight the best...as much as I like him, he has fought a fair share of imported fodder....
Sure he can sell out MEN arena or even a stadium....but the real goal is surely to always fight the best you can wherever....
Maybe its a little bit of negativity on my part but Calzaghe NEEDS 3 BIG fights to cement a legacy as an ATG...
It can be done but negotiations can fall early in planning a fight...
If a big fight comes of I will feel appeased....but I worry about who might be dished up for this defence....
Remember folks, Im a huge Calzaghe fan...but I need to vent some negativity every now and then...
yeah he should be looking 4 a big name, but to get that he'll have to travel and
unfortuntly Warren won't let him take the risk, he should have copied Hatton and left
Warren years ago, hopefully though Kessler will decide to travel, then after Joe has
to hit the States
Warren is very good at protecting his interests....but in terms of unleashing his talent, he gives nothing away...
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If he fights anybody besides Kessler I will be extremely dissappointed in Joe. Come on Joe unify then move up. If he unified the division then he would be an extremely attractive opponent for any of the alphabelt holders at 175. Then he could do his last couple of fights as a LH belt holder.
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The way boxing goes Ouma is probably gonna defeat Taylor now because Calzaghe wants to fight Jermain. and then Calzaghe will have to fight Kessler and then he'll win and then retire undefeated.
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I think Calzaghe is calling out Taylor b/c he knows the fight won't happen, at least right now. But, it will help him duck Kessler.
Look for Calzaghe to fight another B opponent in his next fight.
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he should fight kessler first and then fight taylor
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He better be careful what he wishes for in Taylor... :-\
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
If he fights anybody besides Kessler I will be extremely dissappointed in Joe. Come on Joe unify then move up. If he unified the division then he would be an extremely attractive opponent for any of the alphabelt holders at 175. Then he could do his last couple of fights as a LH belt holder.
:coolclick: Agreed...100%.
Unify & then move up...or down to face Taylor...or if Taylor moves up...or whatever...either way...he should fight Kessler before he does anything else.
It'll seem like he's on the dodge if he doesn't.
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All Calzcrappy has done since his win over the overrated Jeff Lacy is fight a bum (Bika), call out a retired fighter (Hopkins), avoid a fighter calling him out (Kessler) and now call out a smaller fighter (Taylor). Yet, his loyal. misguided groupies still call him great.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
All Calzcrappy has done since his win over the overrated Jeff Lacy is fight a bum (Bika), call out a retired fighter (Hopkins), avoid a fighter calling him out (Kessler) and now call out a smaller fighter (Taylor). Yet, his loyal. misguided groupies still call him great.
o.k....
So Hopkins is just a retired fighter? Taylor is too small?? So you'd give Calzaghe no respect for fighting 2 p4p fighters and 2 of the best fighters around his weight division since he's been around. What would he have to do to earn your respect?
Pr**k
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
All Calzcrappy has done since his win over the overrated Jeff Lacy is fight a bum (Bika), call out a retired fighter (Hopkins), avoid a fighter calling him out (Kessler) and now call out a smaller fighter (Taylor). Yet, his loyal. misguided groupies still call him great.
Have you not read in numerous articles that Warren and Palle are in talks? If anything it would appear that Kessler is the one being difficult.
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Originally Posted by Dreaderick Tatum
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
All Calzcrappy has done since his win over the overrated Jeff Lacy is fight a bum (Bika), call out a retired fighter (Hopkins), avoid a fighter calling him out (Kessler) and now call out a smaller fighter (Taylor). Yet, his loyal. misguided groupies still call him great.
o.k....
So Hopkins is just a retired fighter? Taylor is too small?? So you'd give Calzaghe no respect for fighting 2 p4p fighters and 2 of the best fighters around his weight division since he's been around. What would he have to do to earn your respect?
Pr**k
And out come the groupies.
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Originally Posted by Memphis
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
All Calzcrappy has done since his win over the overrated Jeff Lacy is fight a bum (Bika), call out a retired fighter (Hopkins), avoid a fighter calling him out (Kessler) and now call out a smaller fighter (Taylor). Yet, his loyal. misguided groupies still call him great.
Have you not read in numerous articles that Warren and Palle are in talks? If anything it would appear that Kessler is the one being difficult.
Yeah by offering to go to Calzcrappy's back yard, Kessler's being real difficult. Ever since that weekend where they both fought, Joe has gone from Hopkins to Taylor. Two fighters out of his division. Seems to me like he's doing everything he can to not make that fight happen. Just like he did when Sven Ottke was around.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
All Calzcrappy has done since his win over the overrated Jeff Lacy is fight a bum (Bika), call out a retired fighter (Hopkins), avoid a fighter calling him out (Kessler) and now call out a smaller fighter (Taylor). Yet, his loyal. misguided groupies still call him great.
Hillarious.
I knew that you'd take a lot of flack for that statement...but it almost does have some merit to me.
It's known that I'm a huge fan of brutha Joesepf...but...BUT...if he doesn't make the Kessler fight...if he takes on Hopkins or Taylor or some chump...I'll be disgusted.
Nothing's crappy about Joe...unless he doesn't capitalize on his current position.
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id rather see Joe C unify with Kessssssler and JT fight Winky II.
i doubt JC goes down to 160 he's even complained about making SMW weight before the lacy fight.
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Violent Demise recent reports would suggest that Kessler isnt as keen to come to the UK as was first thought. Of course it goes without saying that if this turns into a real stumbling block the blame will be laid at Calzaghe's door and not Kessler.
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I know Joe dosent want to hang around for a guy who he believes is beneath him so really, a fight between Cal & Kess has to be on Clazaghes terms unfortunately. :-\
Its understandable though... ::**
Cal is at the tail end of his carrer and (despite getting his long sought after "career defining fight") he must want more... Now.
So i guess between 160 & 175, who is the biggest name?
Well, i guess his fellow undisputed champ at 160 gets a good vote. Also the two guys that everybody feels beat him would be ewually as good call up's, however on is retired and dreaming of fighting heavyweights while the other is just too samll, and quite fankly too smart to move up to 168.
So what about keeping it closer to home? I mean, for all his achievments, Cal is not exactly a household name is he?
Maybe the best thing to do is kill two birds with one stone, secure a fight which will be marketed as a domestic rivalry while aiming to be a two weight world champ. This move of course will open a whole load of other immediate opportunities for the welshman.... Maybe a fight at an even higher weight with an aspiring fellow Brit. ;)
Then again, maybe not. >:mad
We are prety unanimous in the idea of Cal unifying the 168 division being the only permissable move in regards to silencing the critics once again....
But since when did Joe condct himself according to the critics? O0
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Originally Posted by Memphis
Violent Demise recent reports would suggest that Kessler isnt as keen to come to the UK as was first thought. Of course it goes without saying that if this turns into a real stumbling block the blame will be laid at Calzaghe's door and not Kessler.
Well kessler is calling out joe and joe aint calling him out, if this fight doesnt happen who is to blame then?
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Originally Posted by ~Phil~
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Unfortunately, as we all know, Joe don't do traveling
So the 20th - Hopkins record equaling fight - (now there's a selling point ::**) will be in the UK.... Kessler, and the top American boys aren't interested in coming over...What a surprise ::**
If they cant dig out another Bika
Brian Magee's always available 8)
Joe's travelled more than alot of fighters, not as much as he should have but he's fought
in both Germany and Denmark and won well in both. Yes he should go to America, but this fight will
be his 20 defence and mean alot to his fans so why not fight it on your home turf, nearly every boxer
would do the same
Mate it's not about that. Reading between the lines you can tell what type of opponent Joe will be fighting in Feb/March.
They (FW) keep shouting "Joes next fight will be a superfight" ...Well if Kesslers team don't wanna give up home advantage, Cazlaghe and FW most certainly wont, so thats that fight fucked, for now.
The top American boys wont come over here.
SO, this will be a big fight because it's Joes 20th defence, equaling Hopkins record. That rules out a name at LH.
Throughout Cazlaghe's career they've called out every "superstar" name under the sun after every fight he's won but he's ended up fighting none of them (not ALL his fault). He's 34 with a fucked up hand and it's still happening.
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TAYLOR IS NOT P4P!!! He hasn't dominated the Middleweight division!!!
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Originally Posted by Snakey
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Originally Posted by Memphis
Violent Demise recent reports would suggest that Kessler isnt as keen to come to the UK as was first thought. Of course it goes without saying that if this turns into a real stumbling block the blame will be laid at Calzaghe's door and not Kessler.
Well kessler is calling out joe and joe aint calling him out, if this fight doesnt happen who is to blame then?
Grow up FFS. Take a look around, both Calzaghe's camp and Kesslers camp have confirmed that talks are underway, albeit in thier infancy. Like I said, people will lay the blame at Joes door solely because Kessler is the one being voacal about it. Kessler is talking, therefor he MUST be the one that really wants the fight ::**
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Need this be a sore subjetc already ???
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Not sure what you mean mate. If your refering to me telling Snakey to grow up he knows Im only fucking with him ;)
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Re: Calzaghe says a Jermain Taylor fight is number one on his list
Its always a sore subject where Calzaghe's concerned.
The mongs and the "fans" call for the same thing - major fights...but for obvious different reasons...and obviously whatever Calzaghe does it will never be enough for the mongs
If Cazlaghe beat Kessler next the mongs would claim Kessler was a hyped up nobody aka Lacy..."wait until he fights a Hopkins or Jones"
If Cazlaghe beat Hopkins or Jones the mongs would say they were old and past their best..."wait until he fights a live body like Winky or Taylor"
If Calzaghe beat Winky or Taylor the mongs would say they were to small......so it goes.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Its always a sore subject where Calzaghe's concerned.
The mongs and the "fans" call for the same thing - major fights...but for obvious different reasons...and obviously whatever Calzaghe does it will never be enough for the mongs
If Cazlaghe beat Kessler next the mongs would claim Kessler was a hyped up nobody aka Lacy..."wait until he fights a Hopkins or Jones"
If Cazlaghe beat Hopkins or Jones the mongs would say they were old and past their best..."wait until he fights a live body like Winky or Taylor"
If Calzaghe beat Winky or Taylor the mongs would say they were to small......and on it goes.
:coolclick: Agreed 100%
Well, 90% at least :-\
All you state is very true, provided he does one of those things next.
If he doesn't.....
God help all Calzaghe fans ;D
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I think JC is in a lose lose situation. I think he gets an unfair share of ciriticism,he has called people out,made offers and beaten EVERYONE put in front of him. I'd actually prefer to see him fight Kessler,unify,then fight Taylor and I don't think Taylor would duck him,so it seems like a fight which could realistically be made. However,I won't be happy if he has another tune up or whatever! It seems that there is hype for JC stateside,he should exploit it all he can(actually,he should ride the hype wave and fighter Taylor first if he can then maybe Kessler)
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Its always a sore subject where Calzaghe's concerned.
The mongs and the "fans" call for the same thing - major fights...but for obvious different reasons...and obviously whatever Calzaghe does it will never be enough for the mongs
If Cazlaghe beat Kessler next the mongs would claim Kessler was a hyped up nobody aka Lacy..."wait until he fights a Hopkins or Jones"
If Cazlaghe beat Hopkins or Jones the mongs would say they were old and past their best..."wait until he fights a live body like Winky or Taylor"
If Calzaghe beat Winky or Taylor the mongs would say they were to small......so it goes.
That's cuz it's true. Hopkins and Jones are nowhere near there primes. Why the sudden urge to fight them now (after Hopkins retired) as oppose to years ago? Taylor and Wright are both naturally smaller fighters. That ain't some made up shit. It's true. Still a win over Wright, would be impressive in my view. Taylor not as much since I think he still needs a lot of work. Kessler? There ain't no excuse. Kessler is in his prime right now. He's fought over 35 times. This ain't Lacy and his barely 20 fights. He's got like 5 or 6 former champions on his resume. He's somebody. If Calzaghe beats him, than he can't be knocked. I'll give him credit. Hell, if he beats Kessler I'll never bad mouth Calzaghe again. And I'm talking about a real win. Not one of those "Kessler had him down 3 times, but lost cuz Calzaghe claimed he couldn't continue cuz of a suppose rabbit punch." Or "Kessler beat his ass for 12, but lost cuz they were fighting in Joe's back yard." A real win.
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Re: Calzaghe says a Jermain Taylor fight is number one on his list
Calzaghe knew that Hopkins wouldn't fight him, I knew that and I'm just a specatator. B-Hop is going to for the heavies (Maskeav) if he does anything. Either way, Hopkins would toss his wheelchair and AARP card aside and harm JC.
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Re: Calzaghe says a Jermain Taylor fight is number one on his list
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Originally Posted by Starr
TAYLOR IS NOT P4P!!! He hasn't dominated the Middleweight division!!!
I believe hell has frozen over...
Starr said something negative about a black man!
kidding :o
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Re: Calzaghe says a Jermain Taylor fight is number one on his list
Any time Joe Calzaghe mentions BHop or Jones Jr I switch off. I think its something that is ingrained in him, he has been calling them out for so long that he cant help himself. Im sure he realises himself that its pointless but just cant help it ;D
