Vitali Klitschko

You know I dont care what anyone says...The Current crop of Heavies are just plain weak...You can list all the POTENTIAL fighters but at the end of the day its still dismal division..I dont think we will have a universally recognized champ anytime soon...

Vitali was the last and everyone knew he was the man...I wish he could make a comeback he is the only possible fighter that stands head and shoulders above the rest..

I am not sold on Wlad just yet....He has yet to show that true rugged grit that is synonmous with a Heavyweight Champ...Wlad to me has to show he isint going to get spooked when he gets buzzed by a punch and he can dig in there and war...The fight with Byrd showed nothing an we all knew what the outcome would be since Byrd dosent pack much of a punch...

Sadly enough The likeleness of Vitali coming back is slim to none seeing he has the back and knee issues but it was nice to see some clarity after Lennox Lewis, even though it was only a short time..

What are your thoughts

sadly jt i dont see him coming back like he said he will only come out of retirement if lewis did but he was good boxer i was impressed with him against lewis

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

sadly jt i dont see him coming back like he said he will only come out of retirement if lewis did but he was good boxer i was impressed with him against lewis

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Also he bought a certain grit,ruggedness and Credibility....No of the current guys would last more than 7 rounds...IMO the only one that would push him the farthest is Sergei Lykovitch only cause he is a tough mutha...But they all fall

Valuev-KO 6
Maskaev-Ko 5
Wlad(They Would never fight) but Vitai would KTFO his brother round 3
Lykovitch- TKO 10

"Todays heavyweights aren't that bad" - Mike Tyson

Is that true that Vitali would come back for Lewis?

There is always a low after the departure of a dominant champion. Vitali could have saved us from that by picking up where Lewis left off. Unfortunately it didnt happen, we aren't that lucky.

Yeah I think Vitali would come back and whup Lewis which is why Lennox has a BONUS for staying retired

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Yeah I think Vitali would come back and whup Lewis which is why Lennox has a BONUS for staying retired

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Yeah, he does. A deal with HBO, and money. What's Vitali's bonus?

vitali would beat any HW today, probably beat LL if both came back. although he didnt have all the belts, he was in my mind the 'true' HW champion.

however, hes not coming back. hes going to pursue a politcal career. dont get me wrong, i was a HUGE fan of the guy, and i would LOVE to see him back, but i think if it was gonna happen it would have already. he dosnet need money, he legs will never be at 100%(old kickboxing injuries), and has nothing more to prove.

its time for boxing fans to except Wlad as the next true HW champ if he beats brock, and for klitschko fans to except Wlad as 'their guy', because the chances of Big Brother coming back are very slim.

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Originally Posted by ethanpiazza

vitali would beat any HW today, probably beat LL if both came back. although he didnt have all the belts, he was in my mind the 'true' HW champion.

however, hes not coming back. hes going to pursue a politcal career. dont get me wrong, i was a HUGE fan of the guy, and i would LOVE to see him back, but i think if it was gonna happen it would have already. he dosnet need money, he legs will never be at 100%(old kickboxing injuries), and has nothing more to prove.

its time for boxing fans to except Wlad as the next true HW champ if he beats brock, and for klitschko fans to except Wlad as 'their guy', because the chances of Big Brother coming back are very slim.

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Didn't he just lose the election though?

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Originally Posted by killersheep

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Originally Posted by ethanpiazza

vitali would beat any HW today, probably beat LL if both came back. although he didnt have all the belts, he was in my mind the 'true' HW champion.

however, hes not coming back. hes going to pursue a politcal career. dont get me wrong, i was a HUGE fan of the guy, and i would LOVE to see him back, but i think if it was gonna happen it would have already. he dosnet need money, he legs will never be at 100%(old kickboxing injuries), and has nothing more to prove.

its time for boxing fans to except Wlad as the next true HW champ if he beats brock, and for klitschko fans to except Wlad as 'their guy', because the chances of Big Brother coming back are very slim.

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Didn't he just lose the election though?

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Yes,he lost. He was running for the mayor of Keiv I think. Maybe he is getting bored? :o

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Originally Posted by p4pking

Yeah, he does. A deal with HBO, and money. What's Vitali's bonus?

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Hmmm...life without being punched in the face, less surgery, and a life of politics where he can help more people...Vitali and Wlad have done great things for UNESCO already

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

You know I dont care what anyone says...The Current crop of Heavies are just plain weak...You can list all the POTENTIAL fighters but at the end of the day its still dismal division..I dont think we will have a universally recognized champ anytime soon...

Vitali was the last and everyone knew he was the man...I wish he could make a comeback he is the only possible fighter that stands head and shoulders above the rest..

I am not sold on Wlad just yet....He has yet to show that true rugged grit that is synonmous with a Heavyweight Champ...Wlad to me has to show he isint going to get spooked when he gets buzzed by a punch and he can dig in there and war...The fight with Byrd showed nothing an we all knew what the outcome would be since Byrd dosent pack much of a punch...

Sadly enough The likeleness of Vitali coming back is slim to none seeing he has the back and knee issues but it was nice to see some clarity after Lennox Lewis, even though it was only a short time..

What are your thoughts

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Honestly...I really REALLY REALLY loved Vitali.

Always have & always will. I was totally disgusted with the carnival that he became at the end...that circus act of not facing Rahman was retarded...he should have kicked the shit outta him & then retired. He woulda gained more credit, IWO.

Anywho...as I said...I've always been a Vitali fan...& I always caught a lot of flack over it.

Vitali was the real deal & he was completely awkwardly effective.

There wasn't another heavy out there like him nor (IWO) was there one that could beat him.

Wlad is starting to grow on me...basically just due to the fact that there isn't another heavy out there like him & the kid is pretty amazing...but to me...he aint no Vitali.

Say what you will about him...hate all you want...the man was the best that 200+ had to offer.

Had he stayed in the game...there probably wouldn't be that much crying over the sorry state of the divsion right now.

:coolclick: for the thoughts also.

Good post.

I alway's thought he was the better fighter out of the two brothers.

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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber

I alway's thought he was the better fighter out of the two brothers.

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Funny thing is...so did I.

Ask Lyle, he used to gimmee shit over digging on Vitali & not Wlad. ;D

I still give you shit....who has the most wins?

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Originally Posted by Lyle

I still give you S***....who has the most wins?

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Whatever...who got there asses knocked out like bee's-snatch?

Yep. You gotdam right...your bwoy. :-*

Well who still has the chance to unify the titles....BOOYAKA-SHA!

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

You know I dont care what anyone says...The Current crop of Heavies are just plain weak...You can list all the POTENTIAL fighters but at the end of the day its still dismal division..I dont think we will have a universally recognized champ anytime soon...

Vitali was the last and everyone knew he was the man...I wish he could make a comeback he is the only possible fighter that stands head and shoulders above the rest..

I am not sold on Wlad just yet....He has yet to show that true rugged grit that is synonmous with a Heavyweight Champ...Wlad to me has to show he isint going to get spooked when he gets buzzed by a punch and he can dig in there and war...The fight with Byrd showed nothing an we all knew what the outcome would be since Byrd dosent pack much of a punch...

Sadly enough The likeleness of Vitali coming back is slim to none seeing he has the back and knee issues but it was nice to see some clarity after Lennox Lewis, even though it was only a short time..

What are your thoughts

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Vitali had two defenses against Sanders and Williams not the top tier(of even the non top tier) of Heavyweights. Brewster, Ruiz and Byrd imo fought better opponents then Vitali did on his "run"

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Well who still has the chance to unify the titles....BOOYAKA-SHA!

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Two words: SAM PETER. ;D
































































































































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Oh Sam-a-lam-a-ding-dong already got his dashiki wearin ass handed to him by Wladimir.....NEXT

well of course vitali would beat him now isnt he 41 and hasnt boxed since like 2003 or 2002 lewis in his prime and at his fittest would deal with vitali im pretty sure of that

I think it was just one of those matchups where no matter when in his career Vitali would have given Lewis trouble just due to his style...I can't see ANYONE EVER having an easy time coping with that style...it's like Vitali had the best of both worlds, Old School lean back style and New benefits of healthcare (which makes people bigger now than they used to be), weight training, surgery techniques, and so on.

Vitali gives ANYONE a hard time including Prime Ali and Prime Tyson....no disrespect, I wouldn't say he wins vs everyone but he gives them trouble

i was impressed with vitali vs lewis but he had no defence he kept his lands very low and and prime ali i dont think would have real problems like lewis did lets just put it this way prolly lewis worse night and vitali had his best one and he didnt win that should tell u something prime tyson could have trouble though because he is alot taller than tyson and tyson struggled against bigger boys but vitali wouldnt be able to keep his hands low against tyson like he did vs lewis otherwise he will find himself on the seat of his pants

I think he would...yeah his defense was like Ali's...just leaning backwards BUT he was 6'8 therefore it was tougher for people to hit him clean on the jaw.

His punches also held people back off of him

lyle i have never seen byrd vs vitali was byrd ahead when vitali quit ??

No, Byrd was behind

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lyle i have never seen byrd vs vitali was byrd ahead when vitali quit ??

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Byrd was indeed behind & in trouble...that's a really good fight IWO.

Byrd was causing issues after about the 3rd round...I can't recall if Vitali was already hurt then or not.

You should watch that fight though. Byrd nails him on the shoulder several times during the bout...& you can literally see Vitali cringe up.

Crying shame that he quit...but as old as the topic is...I aint him & he aint me...can't imagine what it would feel like fighting through an injury as damaging as that one would have been.

Vit vs Wlad "would" have been great. Id say Wlad wins if he dosent get caught.
O and Wack? You going to have a 19000 post party thread or what? ;D
Just kidding...