Should gatti?

Right so i know most boxing fans are saying gatti should retire right now!
and lord knows he's taken alot of punishment upto the point where he is now!
but is peoples opinions of gatti bieng shot based on the baldomir performance? or is it things like lack of opponents that he could beat or the punishment thing?
if its based on the baldomir performance, and there was any way of convincing me that gatti could win a couple of big bouts and ride off into the sunset without any harm, i would say crack on arturo..
my explanation is, as follows... at the end of the seventh i had gatti drawing with baldo,
of course gatti lost the next two rounds, and was dropped twice before the stoppage in the ninth!
but having seen how in gatti's winning rounds he would trade a bit and get away and he had baldo stumbling around having missed a big shot, and since we have seen him take immense punishment and come back to win yet more rounds all i can blame the loss on, is the fact he just plain looked piped out and let himself get beaten on. with more training and discipline to stick to a plan he could have won that fight! all he would have had to do is fight smarter, keep something in the tank till the latter rounds, and he made him miss and stumble like a clumsy giant if he were thinking strait there was some excellent counter opportunities..
in short depending on who gatti would want to fight before he leaves the game, i hope he fights again.
picks the opponents carefully, is in good condition and fully prepared with a solid gameplan for his last fights... and leaves the game.
peace

I believe Gatti is contracted for a fight in the millions regardless. He should just fight someone that isn't too big.

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

I believe Gatti is contracted for a fight in the millions regardless. He should just fight someone that isn't too big.

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good point cc!!
i forgot he still has a fight left with hbo doesnt he!
hmm i wouldnt say noone too big, he would just need to do something he's never bothered doing before..
pick his opponent carefully, pick someone with a big name who he can expect to beat, then swat down to getting a solid gameplan and carry it out.
im starting to miss arturo already lol
peace

I love watching Gatti fights whether he wins or loses,his fights are always entertaining(with
one exception,which was the Mayweather fight) ...
His loss to Baldi was mainly,cause Gatti likes to brawl and Baldi just had the right strategy for that...
I don't think Gatti is shot,at least no more then he already was the last few years...I mean thats Gatti...

I hope too that he fights again :coolclick: for a fellow Gatti fan...

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Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss

I love watching Gatti fights whether he wins or loses,his fights are always entertaining(with
one exception,which was the Mayweather fight) ...
His loss to Baldi was mainly,cause Gatti likes to brawl and Baldi just had the right strategy for that...
I don't think Gatti is shot,at least no more then he already was the last few years...I mean thats Gatti...

I hope too that he fights again :coolclick: for a fellow Gatti fan...

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back at a brother ;)
gotta reward taste
peace

Gatti was exciting but I just was never a fan,however,I have just read an interview with him where he says that he does not plan on retiring,he's doing weights to become stronger and he wants to fight......Miguel Cotto. It sounds like he is quite serious and I know it is a fight the Cotto camp wanted to make so I would not be surprised to see it in the near future!

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Gatti was exciting but I just was never a fan,however,I have just read an interview with him where he says that he does not plan on retiring,he's doing weights to become stronger and he wants to fight......Miguel Cotto. It sounds like he is quite serious and I know it is a fight the Cotto camp wanted to make so I would not be surprised to see it in the near future!

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thats a good fight for both guys!
cotto is a good solid fighter, if he shows up right he has a big name on the record
and gatti has a chance because if he studies cotto correctly and is in good shape he could stop cotto!
frankly when i comes down to it i think gatti can probably take more then cotto whilst giving it out at the same time, and if cotto gets clocked , he either stays down, gets stopped or looses his composure and loses, not saying it would happen but its a possibility, one of the best fights out there for gatti definiately
peace cc for the news

i don think gatti is done. his next fight should be against someone not so good. just do get the confidence back that he has lost

Arturo Gatti should fight one of the following:

Ricky Hatton (it's tough but it would give him the big bucks needed to retire without second guessing)
Junior Witter - Gatti can beat him
Diego Corrales - He can beat him
Ricardo Torres - tough but he can beat him
Zab Judah - Tough fight for Gatti to win but he wouldn't get fucked up fighting Zab
Juan Lazcano
Mike Arnaoutis

He should avoid at all costs:

Miguel Cotto
Paul Williams
Antonio Margarito

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Arturo Gatti should fight one of the following:

Ricky Hatton (it's tough but it would give him the big bucks needed to retire without second guessing)
Junior Witter - Gatti can beat him
Diego Corrales - He can beat him
Ricardo Torres - tough but he can beat him
Zab Judah - Tough fight for Gatti to win but he wouldn't get fucked up fighting Zab
Juan Lazcano
Mike Arnaoutis

He should avoid at all costs:

Miguel Cotto
Paul Williams
Antonio Margarito

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you really think he should avoid cotto and WILLIAMS :o
Lol i think he has the ability to beat cotto, but its a tough one..
i think he will more likely beat cotto then he will hatton..
williams is supposed to be this great prospect, and he would be a prospect, had he had 15 fights but having had thirty odd fights that just shows he has had poor opposition and he hasnt progressed enough during the fights where the experiance has built up..
as for margarito, i see it as another baldomir scenario, whether he tired out or not, the fight would be much the same except for the fact that margarito is faster then gatti so i think gatti gets stopped..
its just that tony is too young too strong and he has that killer instinct.
peace

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Arturo Gatti should fight one of the following:

Ricky Hatton (it's tough but it would give him the big bucks needed to retire without second guessing)
Junior Witter - Gatti can beat him
Diego Corrales - He can beat him
Ricardo Torres - tough but he can beat him
Zab Judah - Tough fight for Gatti to win but he wouldn't get fucked up fighting Zab
Juan Lazcano
Mike Arnaoutis

He should avoid at all costs:

Miguel Cotto
Paul Williams
Antonio Margarito

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:coolclick: Pretty much agree with alla that.

Not being a fan of Gatti's...I can honestly say that he's done a lot of good for boxing...but I truly believe that he's done all that he can do.

Someone else stated that he should move back down...agree there also.

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Originally Posted by BodyHead

you really think he should avoid cotto and WILLIAMS :o
Lol i think he has the ability to beat cotto, but its a tough one..
i think he will more likely beat cotto then he will hatton..
williams is supposed to be this great prospect, and he would be a prospect, had he had 15 fights but having had thirty odd fights that just shows he has had poor opposition and he hasnt progressed enough during the fights where the experiance has built up..
as for margarito, i see it as another baldomir scenario, whether he tired out or not, the fight would be much the same except for the fact that margarito is faster then gatti so i think gatti gets stopped..
its just that tony is too young too strong and he has that killer instinct.
peace

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2 names for you to look up

1. Gianaluca Branco

2. Sharmba Mitchell

Now look what Cotto and Williams did to those guys. Yeah Paul is a young guy but he's 6'1 he's a natural welterweight and he has a HUGE left hand.

As for Gatti's ability to beat Miguel Cotto, I HIGHLY doubt it...Miguel is a younger, faster, harder punching, bigger, and all around better version of Arturo Gatti

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by BodyHead

you really think he should avoid cotto and WILLIAMS :o
Lol i think he has the ability to beat cotto, but its a tough one..
i think he will more likely beat cotto then he will hatton..
williams is supposed to be this great prospect, and he would be a prospect, had he had 15 fights but having had thirty odd fights that just shows he has had poor opposition and he hasnt progressed enough during the fights where the experiance has built up..
as for margarito, i see it as another baldomir scenario, whether he tired out or not, the fight would be much the same except for the fact that margarito is faster then gatti so i think gatti gets stopped..
its just that tony is too young too strong and he has that killer instinct.
peace

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2 names for you to look up

1. Gianaluca Branco

2. Sharmba Mitchell

Now look what Cotto and Williams did to those guys. Yeah Paul is a young guy but he's 6'1 he's a natural welterweight and he has a HUGE left hand.

As for Gatti's ability to beat Miguel Cotto, I HIGHLY doubt it...Miguel is a younger, faster, harder punching, bigger, and all around better version of Arturo Gatti

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lol oh shit sorry boss? shine ya shoes too mister? lol
fuck mann i know williams beat mitchell and shit son i would expect the boy too aswell!
the littlebig man is a punching bag for the greats and a stepping stone for the prospects, i never liked sharmba..
williams is ok.. thats all i can say about him...
i like cotto too but hes not all he is cracked up to be i mean he got rocked by corley... another punch bag of the greats and a prospect stepping stone
if there werent so many titles and different fighters fighting for certain titles then corley wouldnt have become champ!
theres that and the fact (not taking anything away from the magic man hes a great fighter)
malignaggi lasted out twleve rounds with him and cant bang anywhere near what gatti can,
and before you go on saying like oh cotto hurt his left hand, gatti has won fights with broken hands against tougher nuts and harder hitters then paulie, and he takes a better dig then paulie, i simply cant
see cotto outboxing gatti since hes just too prone to brawling and getting into a real fight and he couldnt afford to do that with arturo...
im not saying he couldnt, but i would favour gatti...
at the end of the day i can give reason but i cant predict what happens in a fight and promise you what would happen, but i certainly wouldnt count out gatti, nor would i say gatti wouldnt loose in some way or other, im just saying he has a good chance in the fight, he has the ability to do it
peace

I think Baldomir's chin and size were huge factors. The shots Gatti hit Baldomir with knock out or down 99 percent of the other fighters out there.

Williams stopped Mitchell faster than Floyd did

Cotto got rocked by Corley and dropped by Torres

BUT you're saying a man beaten by the likes of:
Mickey Ward
Ivan Robinson (TWICE)
Knocked SENSELESS by Angel Manfredy

Would have a shot vs Paul Williams and Miguel Cotto....I don't think so.

Gatti has heart but it's true, when he steps up he gets FUCKED UP

I think the biggest and best fight out there by far for Gatti would be Diego Corrales at 147 lb.

Both men love a brawl, both men are chinny as fuck and both are two time losers from their last outings.

I reckon this fight would be huge, a big ppv and payday for both men with probably a 50/50 chance of winning for either.

I can't think of any other big name top fighter I'd want to see Gatti in with because honestly he would get battered.

But Coralles is a huge name a multiple time champ like Gatti and equally vulnerable.

Can you imagine this being a bad fight? I can't, it would be relentless whilst it lasted.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Williams stopped Mitchell faster than Floyd did

Cotto got rocked by Corley and dropped by Torres

BUT you're saying a man beaten by the likes of:
Mickey Ward
Ivan Robinson (TWICE)
Knocked SENSELESS by Angel Manfredy

Would have a shot vs Paul Williams and Miguel Cotto....I don't think so.

Gatti has heart but it's true, when he steps up he gets FUCKED UP

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lol whats wrong with micky ward? :o
yeh agree maybe those losses are abit crap , but im always behind gatti when he steps up,
i mean yeh he has lost his fair share but when you say step up , its more then js a step up for gatti when he fought both floyd and oscar.. i mean those are the fights he had no chance in,
but when i comes to williams i would say he had a good chance,
and i dunno man i just dont know that cotto has that much heart as to go into war..
ive not seen it from him , hes had his troubles and he is a great fighter but its like he has no personality... thats what gets me about him, i mean he doesnt even pick his own opponents his promoter does it for him, yes but who DO YOU WANT to fight miguel, ehhh i dno whovever my promotoer says.. lol like hes afraid that he'll be exposed for having some sort of character in interviews
lol
peace

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Originally Posted by bilbo

I think the biggest and best fight out there by far for Gatti would be Diego Corrales at 147 lb.

Both men love a brawl, both men are chinny as fuck and both are two time losers from their last outings.

I reckon this fight would be huge, a big ppv and payday for both men with probably a 50/50 chance of winning for either.

I can't think of any other big name top fighter I'd want to see Gatti in with because honestly he would get battered.

But Coralles is a huge name a multiple time champ like Gatti and equally vulnerable.

Can you imagine this being a bad fight? I can't, it would be relentless whilst it lasted.

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you make good points there brother, but if i have to say ..which i dont.. but i will lol
im saying gatti
anyone noticed how diego just seems to not even show to fights...
seems like he swings in and out..
like the first fight with castillo was excellent,
and yet he was gunshy and jus plodded round following the puncher that was mayweather,
sometimes hes great but others it just seems he has no heart and jus goes for the payday,
both are great both are punchers but gatti has a much better chin i would say a tko for gatti,
but maybe with the likes of gatti where diego could trade and use his size diego would be more hearty and show more determinattion but also considering diego is a lightweight i dont think he would have the same power?
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Gatti needs to let the hands heal , or just suck it up and shoot some Novocain in between the knuckles .

Gatti must wear punchers gloves, Reyes. those safety gloves he was wearing in his last outing isn’t going to get him anywhere.. Gatti is a puncher, you take that away from him, and he is shit !

Floyd wears Winning, those are safe gloves....his power has stayed with him.


I just think Baldimir has a great chin

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Floyd wears Winning, those are safe gloves....his power has stayed with him.


I just think Baldimir has a great chin

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no doubt!! his head is like a typewriter!