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who do you boys reckon is gonna lose the undefeated streak first in the near future? 2007 potentialy brings about shit loads of exciting match ups and nearly all the undefeated big players are fighting risky fights. who's still going to be undefeated this time next year?
carl froch
joe calzaghe
jermain taylor
mikkel kessler
ricky hatton
miguel cotto
floyd mayweather
demetrius hopkins
valuev
calvin brock
or anyone else ya can think of
calvin brock then followed by valuev if he fights wlad
probably either valuev or brock...
the big man is going to have to face another reall.. contender this next year..
and though i like brock im not sure he can beat vlad..
also i feel Dhop is in need of a step up to the big time and he will have to train and fight hard this year to prove what he is all about...
whilst hatton the very same.. will almost garauntee'd have the biggest fights of his life this year and will need his a game especially with castillo... but i think if hes on top he'll be jlc
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Don't know who will be first, I do know that valuev will loose it though.
maybe he should tighten it :PQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
lol it will be brock first...
joe calzaghe-if he steps in against B-Hop you can kiss that 0 goodbye
jermain taylor-should already have a 3 instead of a 0 (2X against B-Hop, and against Wright), but he'll lose it against Wright for sure in the rematch
mikkel kessler-Calzaghe can probably take it away, and if not Miranda IMO will do it
ricky hatton-if he steps in with Castillo or Cotto that 0 is gone
miguel cotto-can very well go away againt Quintana but that goes for both of them
floyd mayweather-Baldomir actually has a very good chance, but DLH and Mosley have an even better chance
demetrius hopkins-not sure but he needs to step it up already
valuev-Klitschko, and even probably James Toney
calvin brock-Klitschko for sure
HERE HERE!Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Im with you the loser of Cotto vs Quintana, will lose their 0, I hope its Quintana.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Man I agree with everything you say except Hatton at 140 would be hard for anyone to beat IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
you can't honestly think that hopkins beat taylor both times mate. elterriblemorales. taylor won the first fight convincingly and then b hop gave it all the 'i'm not gonna leave it up to the judges this time round' and then faught exactly the same fight as the first time round.
i think carl froch is gonna lose that 0 if he steps up in opposition next year. if he faces lacy, manfredo jr, or even danny green he's gonna lose it. i think brian magee showed that he can be hurt and a fighter with a bit more class will nail him.
Wouldn't surprise me if Froch lost his 0 this year
Tony Dodson - 24th Nov. ;)
yeah it is going to be brock that loses his undeafeated record
Taylor and Hatton shouldn't even have a 0 any more.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
three judges and harold lederman is not enough for you bro?
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I'm a bit surprised when Carl Froch wins a fight, no matter who its against. I must be slightly underrating him, cause he just looks horrible to me, not medicore, horrible, bad enough that if a complete journeyman beat him I wouldn't be surprised at all.
lol yeh i think thats whats in some of his appeal.. i have a friend whos a bit of a fan of him...Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
says its because hes jus a tough fighter and its exciting to watch cos hes vulnerable..
can sort of understand it :-\ lol
Now I completely agreed with you regarding Hopkins losing both times to Taylor, but Froch losing to Mafredo :o ???Quote:
Originally Posted by jbirdy
I don't see that happening, Froch's defense aint all that hot but he has a great chin, bags of stamina and more pop in his hands than anyone Manfredo has ever faced.
I doubt the fight would ever happen but if it did I'd be going for a Froch late stoppage, round 11 or 12.
Manfredo is ok against the Spina's and Pemberton's of the world but against anyone who can box and who isn't technically dead he struggles. Froch would eat him up.
People here thought I was crazy the last time I predicted that Brian Viloria would be the 1st to loose his '0' no one believed me then weeks later he looses.... I just judged him and the rest of the fighters based on their last performances and skills a mixture abd to me Viloria looked VERY beatable against Aguirre....Quote:
Originally Posted by jbirdy
Anyway!! from this list I'm gonna with Brock....
Brock loses his by KO to Wladimir Klitschko
Valuev will be the last to lose his as Don King ain't about to let him fight a LEGIT heavyweight
I can't see Hatton losing his to anyone other than JLC or Cotto at 140, at 147 Baldomir would be ALL WRONG for him
PBF, the talent is out there to stop him but he's been on a roll for so long most guys are beat before they get in the ring with him
i see things as far as hatton goes very similarly to you... i agree that its possible hatton looses to jlc or cotto, but i also say its possible hatton beats them both too... very close rough exciting fights though..Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
not that i believe hatton will meet cotto as i dont beleiev cotto will come back down to 140..
and for the same reason i dont believe hatton will meet baldo or cotto at 147 cos he has stated he will only go to 147 for a big bout with mayweather!
and your pretty much right on the mayweather ricky fight... he deffo can but im not sure he will....
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Very true....I'm not hating on Ricky, I just think he's more suseptable to being outboxed or outpowered.
In agreement Bilbo.Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
A fighter's biggest assets are his whiskers & power, which Froch has in spades.
With regards his pedigree, he trains exceptionally hard and is always in peak condition when he climbs through the ropes, as is pretty obvious from his build.
Perhaps he could be 'out-hustled' over 12 rounds, but i don't believe he'd be stopped.
Froch looks as though he throws fights away, rather than come from behind if that makes any sense - he seems fairly happy to fight along with the tempo at this level.
At the higher level i believe he will be more incentivised to perform 100%, rather than 5% more than his opponent.
The Dodson fight will certainly dispell or prove, any opinions on him.
I think it will be a good domestic UK fight, with rivalry and needle in abundance between the two operators, which will give us arm chairs fans a treat.
Sounds to me like Froch-Ronald Hearns needs to be made!!!
Yep....Brock is gonna lose the "0" Hatton would have already lost it but he went back to 140...Kessler if he fights Joe C..Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Taylor ;)
im all for the fairy tale boxer stories so im gonna go with Mayweather ;D
I hope with all my heart that you are right Saddo. That would be awesome. Then Kostya can come back and finish the giant killer off. ;)
is he still coming back ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy Zarzoff
hope he does if im honest and finish off with a win and isnt just doing what Naz used to do every month with his comeback rubbish :-\
Guess your in for a rude awakeningQuote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
Kostya seems to want to come back, but Johnny Lewis is really against it. The decision they reckon will be made by the end of this year. That is only 8 weeks. I hope he does for 1 final bout. Against Hatton in Melbourne, Australia at the mighty MCG. AND AT A NORMAL TIME! ;D
is kostya not trained by jeff fenech?...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy Zarzoff
i thought he was?
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I think it is going to take more of a change of venue for Kosta to beat Hatton this late in his game. ::**
there is no chance that brock is gonna make it 12 rounds with big vladdy
but i think baldozar is gonna take over the game this weekend
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I really hope he does too it might shut the Hatton haters up with their 'Kostya was past it' bullshit. No one could have beaten Hatton that night. Now? yes a few have a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
Many factors. How much longer are they going to avoid each other. How much longer are certain fighters going to take the easier route. How many judges are going to sway in their favor in close situations.
I will go with Brock, because he is the only one with the announced fighter who seem half decent.
Brock only because he fights Wlad very soon....After that I say Cotto...He is going to 147 and just think now and then Cotto is all power and nothing else...Power doesn't always make it through
No mate. Kostya has never been trained by Fenech. Always since his pro debut, he has been with Johnny Lewis. Kostya made his debut on the Fenech Vs Nelson card. Not that has anything to do with it. ;D
carl froch no
joe calzaghe yes
jermain taylor no
mikkel kessler no
ricky hatton yes
miguel cotto yes
floyd mayweather yes
demetrius hopkins yes
valuev no
calvin brock this ones a controversial one but...yes he'll beat Wlad by UD
i felt that B-Hop squeeked out the win the first time, and second time around he got hit a lot less and landed harder shots, again being the stronger fighter down the stretch, the best Taylor should have gotten in either fight was a draw in the firstQuote:
Originally Posted by jbirdy