Message from Democratic Senator John Kerry

"You better study hard and stay in school or you'll get stuck in Iraq"

What a waste of life that fucker is! That is one of the reasons I didn't vote for him, he's a pompus ass! Radio show host Don Imus gave him a chance to apologize for his comment but NOOOOOOO Johny wanted to stick it to President Bush AND Former P.O.W. Senator John McCain.

John McCain - "The people who serve our country do not do so because of any lack of education but because they are patriots and their country called on them in a time of need and they responded."

If guys like Kerry would stop attacking President Bush and start formulating ideas about what to do about our current situation then I may consider voting for them but it's so bad right now it feels like the Democrats just want people to go and die in Iraq so they can say "I told you so".







Sorry for the political rant but this just lit my fuse today! And I am sure many others will be pissed about it too, no matter what they think of W or the war.

If he fucks this up for the Democrats, what a dumbass. The Republicans are going to make this the whole focus of their campaign because on the actual issues they have nothing, so it just plays into their hands so they can distract attention from everything they've fucked up by focusing on this. Thanks John.

For once I agree with ol Lyle ;D

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For once I agree with ol Lyle ;D

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He's still a porker though :lickish:

i thought the army was for high school drop outs ???

not just in the us but the whole world

no no, you're thinking of nascar

ya know - high school drop outs that turn left ;)

nascar drivers aint thick ???

they make there money!!!!


its the fans of nascar that are thick!!!!

You son of a bitch....
http://www.twitchfilm.net/pics/Ricky-Bobby.jpg

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Originally Posted by Lyle

"You better study hard and stay in school or you'll get stuck in Iraq"

What a waste of life that fucker is! That is one of the reasons I didn't vote for him, he's a pompus ass! Radio show host Don Imus gave him a chance to apologize for his comment but NOOOOOOO Johny wanted to stick it to President Bush AND Former P.O.W. Senator John McCain.

John McCain - "The people who serve our country do not do so because of any lack of education but because they are patriots and their country called on them in a time of need and they responded."

If guys like Kerry would stop attacking President Bush and start formulating ideas about what to do about our current situation then I may consider voting for them but it's so bad right now it feels like the Democrats just want people to go and die in Iraq so they can say "I told you so".







Sorry for the political rant but this just lit my fuse today! And I am sure many others will be pissed about it too, no matter what they think of W or the war.

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Kerry is a snuff queen. 100% idiot. Truth be told I am not happy with either party. neither party has the interest of the people at heart. they tell you one thing before an election and never make good on any of it when elected. Unfortunately voting is real waste of time. because whoever is elected and has the ball is just going to fumble the fucking thing. you look at a ballot and you try and debate, which politician is the least likely to fuck things up , and its hard pick.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

"You better study hard and stay in school or you'll get stuck in Iraq"

What a waste of life that f***** is! That is one of the reasons I didn't vote for him, he's a pompus a**! Radio show host Don Imus gave him a chance to apologize for his comment but NOOOOOOO Johny wanted to stick it to President Bush AND Former P.O.W. Senator John McCain.

John McCain - "The people who serve our country do not do so because of any lack of education but because they are patriots and their country called on them in a time of need and they responded."

If guys like Kerry would stop attacking President Bush and start formulating ideas about what to do about our current situation then I may consider voting for them but it's so bad right now it feels like the Democrats just want people to go and die in Iraq so they can say "I told you so".







Sorry for the political rant but this just lit my fuse today! And I am sure many others will be pissed about it too, no matter what they think of W or the war.

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Kerry is snuff queen. 100% idiot. Truth be told I am not happy with either party. neither party has the interest of the people at heart. they tell you one thing before an election and never make good on any of it when elected. Unfortunately voting is real waste of time. because whoever is elected and has the ball is just going to fumble the F****** thing. you look at a ballot and you try and debate, which politician is the least likely to F*** things up , and its hard pick.

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I totally agree with both you guys! Kerry comes across to me as being an arrogant condescending prick. I'm moderate...not because I like both parties, but b/c I dislike them both equally. We need a 3rd party system so Democrats and Republicans will stop disagreeing with whatever the other party says. Beaurcracy, politicians...it's all so inefficient and the crap always rises to the top! I rather not think about it b/c it seriously gives me a headache everytime.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

"You better study hard and stay in school or you'll get stuck in Iraq"

What a waste of life that f***** is! That is one of the reasons I didn't vote for him, he's a pompus a**! Radio show host Don Imus gave him a chance to apologize for his comment but NOOOOOOO Johny wanted to stick it to President Bush AND Former P.O.W. Senator John McCain.

John McCain - "The people who serve our country do not do so because of any lack of education but because they are patriots and their country called on them in a time of need and they responded."

If guys like Kerry would stop attacking President Bush and start formulating ideas about what to do about our current situation then I may consider voting for them but it's so bad right now it feels like the Democrats just want people to go and die in Iraq so they can say "I told you so".







Sorry for the political rant but this just lit my fuse today! And I am sure many others will be pissed about it too, no matter what they think of W or the war.

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Kerry is snuff queen. 100% idiot. Truth be told I am not happy with either party. neither party has the interest of the people at heart. they tell you one thing before an election and never make good on any of it when elected. Unfortunately voting is real waste of time. because whoever is elected and has the ball is just going to fumble the F****** thing. you look at a ballot and you try and debate, which politician is the least likely to F*** things up , and its hard pick.

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I totally agree with both you guys! Kerry comes across to me as being an arrogant condescending prick. I'm moderate...not because I like both parties, but b/c I dislike them both equally. We need a 3rd party system so Democrats and Republicans will stop disagreeing with whatever the other party says. Beaurcracy, politicians...it's all so inefficient and the crap always rises to the top! I rather not think about it b/c it seriously gives me a headache everytime.

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my feelings exactly CC

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Originally Posted by Lyle

"You better study hard and stay in school or you'll get stuck in Iraq"

What a waste of life that f***** is! That is one of the reasons I didn't vote for him, he's a pompus a**! Radio show host Don Imus gave him a chance to apologize for his comment but NOOOOOOO Johny wanted to stick it to President Bush AND Former P.O.W. Senator John McCain.

John McCain - "The people who serve our country do not do so because of any lack of education but because they are patriots and their country called on them in a time of need and they responded."

If guys like Kerry would stop attacking President Bush and start formulating ideas about what to do about our current situation then I may consider voting for them but it's so bad right now it feels like the Democrats just want people to go and die in Iraq so they can say "I told you so".







Sorry for the political rant but this just lit my fuse today! And I am sure many others will be pissed about it too, no matter what they think of W or the war.

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Kerry is snuff queen. 100% idiot. Truth be told I am not happy with either party. neither party has the interest of the people at heart. they tell you one thing before an election and never make good on any of it when elected. Unfortunately voting is real waste of time. because whoever is elected and has the ball is just going to fumble the F****** thing. you look at a ballot and you try and debate, which politician is the least likely to F*** things up , and its hard pick.

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I totally agree with both you guys! Kerry comes across to me as being an arrogant condescending prick. I'm moderate...not because I like both parties, but b/c I dislike them both equally. We need a 3rd party system so Democrats and Republicans will stop disagreeing with whatever the other party says. Beaurcracy, politicians...it's all so inefficient and the crap always rises to the top! I rather not think about it b/c it seriously gives me a headache everytime.

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my feelings exactly CC

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#392 to you :)

blowing statements out of proportion is whats wrong with this country

campaigns aerent even about issues



ON TOP OF ALL OF THIS...

the people that are pretending to be offended by this comment are the same people that see no problem in john mccains capture being spun into hin being a trader

It's the media that blows statements out of proportion...they are the real ones running the country!




Anyways, as for politics..it's all run by "special interest" groups and the average american has very little influence one what goes on.



An good example is gay marriage. Personally, I don't care much about it either way as it doesn't affect me or 99% of americans. But, what do you hear on the news all the time? What do politicians debate all the time? It's because these special interest lobbying groups (ex: gay rights, for/against abortion etc) are that influence politics because they are the ones that make donations and get the candidates they want in office. The average politician represents issues that to the MAJORITY of americans don't mean much. Not to say they aren't important, just that they aren't representative of the majority of the population.



I think the statement "The government which governs best governs least" is true. It's not good for the government to try and micromanage personal issues. But it's growing and becoming more beaucratic everyday.


I can't believe marijuana is illegal. Bastards.

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Originally Posted by dasamm

It's the media that blows statements out of proportion...they are the real ones running the country!




Anyways, as for politics..it's all run by "special interest" groups and the average american has very little influence one what goes on.



An good example is gay marriage. Personally, I don't care much about it either way as it doesn't affect me or 99% of americans. But, what do you hear on the news all the time? What do politicians debate all the time? It's because these special interest lobbying groups (ex: gay rights, for/against abortion etc) are that influence politics because they are the ones that make donations and get the candidates they want in office. The average politician represents issues that to the MAJORITY of americans don't mean much. Not to say they aren't important, just that they aren't representative of the majority of the population.



I think the statement "The government which governs best governs least" is true. It's not good for the government to try and micromanage personal issues. But it's growing and becoming more beaucratic everyday.


I can't believe marijuana is illegal. Bastards.

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I think we could make one hell of a team and turn things around ! what do ya say ?

Dasamn / Lords Gym 2008 ! ;)

the real disgrace is that some scumbag tried to outbid me on my asus motherboard >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

blowing statements out of proportion is whats wrong with this country

campaigns aerent even about issues



ON TOP OF ALL OF THIS...

the people that are pretending to be offended by this comment are the same people that see no problem in john mccains capture being spun into hin being a trader

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I'm not happy with what Karl Rove has done in the past but I think EVERYONE knows John McCain said things because he was being tortured...the VC had agreed to let him go because his father was an important military figure but McCain declined and was then tortured and made to say things like "I performed the actions of an air pirate" and so on.

Totally different situations!!!

John Kerry tries to be cute and make Bush out to be an idiot but he has trouble doing that....who has trouble making W look like an idiot???

ON TOP of which it took him a while to apologize...he wouldn't admit he was wrong and how's that different from the Republicans?


LIBERTARIAN PARTY!!!! Don't Tread on Me!!!!

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

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Originally Posted by dasamm

It's the media that blows statements out of proportion...they are the real ones running the country!




Anyways, as for politics..it's all run by "special interest" groups and the average american has very little influence one what goes on.



An good example is gay marriage. Personally, I don't care much about it either way as it doesn't affect me or 99% of americans. But, what do you hear on the news all the time? What do politicians debate all the time? It's because these special interest lobbying groups (ex: gay rights, for/against abortion etc) are that influence politics because they are the ones that make donations and get the candidates they want in office. The average politician represents issues that to the MAJORITY of americans don't mean much. Not to say they aren't important, just that they aren't representative of the majority of the population.



I think the statement "The government which governs best governs least" is true. It's not good for the government to try and micromanage personal issues. But it's growing and becoming more beaucratic everyday.


I can't believe marijuana is illegal. Bastards.

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I think we could make one hell of a team and turn things around ! what do ya say ?

Dasamn / Lords Gym 2008 ! ;)

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Haha, I'm down with it Lords! We could make our cabinet like the "Man Law" round table in those Miller Lite commercials, lol!

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Originally Posted by dasamm

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

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Originally Posted by dasamm

It's the media that blows statements out of proportion...they are the real ones running the country!




Anyways, as for politics..it's all run by "special interest" groups and the average american has very little influence one what goes on.



An good example is gay marriage. Personally, I don't care much about it either way as it doesn't affect me or 99% of americans. But, what do you hear on the news all the time? What do politicians debate all the time? It's because these special interest lobbying groups (ex: gay rights, for/against abortion etc) are that influence politics because they are the ones that make donations and get the candidates they want in office. The average politician represents issues that to the MAJORITY of americans don't mean much. Not to say they aren't important, just that they aren't representative of the majority of the population.



I think the statement "The government which governs best governs least" is true. It's not good for the government to try and micromanage personal issues. But it's growing and becoming more beaucratic everyday.


I can't believe marijuana is illegal. Bastards.

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I think we could make one hell of a team and turn things around ! what do ya say ?

Dasamn / Lords Gym 2008 ! ;)

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Haha, I'm down with it Lords! We could make our cabinet like the "Man Law" round table in those Miller Lite commercials, lol!

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;D

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Originally Posted by Lyle

"You better study hard and stay in school or you'll get stuck in Iraq"

What a waste of life that f***** is! That is one of the reasons I didn't vote for him, he's a pompus a**! Radio show host Don Imus gave him a chance to apologize for his comment but NOOOOOOO Johny wanted to stick it to President Bush AND Former P.O.W. Senator John McCain.

John McCain - "The people who serve our country do not do so because of any lack of education but because they are patriots and their country called on them in a time of need and they responded."

If guys like Kerry would stop attacking President Bush and start formulating ideas about what to do about our current situation then I may consider voting for them but it's so bad right now it feels like the Democrats just want people to go and die in Iraq so they can say "I told you so".







Sorry for the political rant but this just lit my fuse today! And I am sure many others will be pissed about it too, no matter what they think of W or the war.

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think he's preety close to hitting the nail on the head.....since the draft was abolished the military has started losing the higher educated and smarter soilders...In my MOS (JOB) I was a Satellite Communications Operator/Repairman...we were only at 40% staffed...we couldn't keep people in because the military couldn't pay anywhere near what outside companies could pay...but the lower Mos's..I.E. MP's, Supply, Light wheel mechanics, basically any job a re re could do were at full staff.....most people going in aren't going in for the money....they are going in because it's the only place they have a shot at making a decent living for thamselves....they would be burger flippers or gas pumpers if not for the military.....almost 90% of the people in the military don't have a college education...http://www.dod.gov/prhome/poprep2002...ation.htm..see for yourself.....Kerry knows this and I agree...we need to bring back the draft in order to have a better military.....being brave doesn't mean you're smart.....in fact it might mean you're...well you know....

Ragu....that might be one of the most ridiculous statements EVER

To be an officer you HAVE......you HAVE.....to have a college degree.

Everyone knows most of the National Guardsmen out there are trying to pay their way through college

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Originally Posted by Lyle

"You better study hard and stay in school or you'll get stuck in Iraq"

What a waste of life that f***** is! That is one of the reasons I didn't vote for him, he's a pompus a**! Radio show host Don Imus gave him a chance to apologize for his comment but NOOOOOOO Johny wanted to stick it to President Bush AND Former P.O.W. Senator John McCain.

John McCain - "The people who serve our country do not do so because of any lack of education but because they are patriots and their country called on them in a time of need and they responded."

If guys like Kerry would stop attacking President Bush and start formulating ideas about what to do about our current situation then I may consider voting for them but it's so bad right now it feels like the Democrats just want people to go and die in Iraq so they can say "I told you so".







Sorry for the political rant but this just lit my fuse today! And I am sure many others will be pissed about it too, no matter what they think of W or the war.

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think he's preety close to hitting the nail on the head.....since the draft was abolished the military has started losing the higher educated and smarter soilders...In my MOS (JOB) I was a Satellite Communications Operator/Repairman...we were only at 40% staffed...we couldn't keep people in because the military couldn't pay anywhere near what outside companies could pay...but the lower Mos's..I.E. MP's, Supply, Light wheel mechanics, basically any job a re re could do were at full staff.....most people going in aren't going in for the money....they are going in because it's the only place they have a shot at making a decent living for thamselves....they would be burger flippers or gas pumpers if not for the military.....almost 90% of the people in the military don't have a college education...http://www.dod.gov/prhome/poprep2002...ation.htm..see for yourself.....Kerry knows this and I agree...we need to bring back the draft in order to have a better military.....being brave doesn't mean you're smart.....in fact it might mean you're...well you know....

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The draft would never work... entirely TOO many people would oppose. It's wishful thinking, kinda like world peace ;)

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Ragu....that might be one of the most ridiculous statements EVER

To be an officer you HAVE......you HAVE.....to have a college degree.

Everyone knows most of the National Guardsmen out there are trying to pay their way through college

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that may be so...

but the military just decided to COMPLETLEY drop the intellegence test given to determine if people will be accepted

tehy used to have a cutoff of an iq below 80, and then WW2 came and too many people were failing so they moved it to 75...


no there is no cutoff

im sure my numbers are flawed but u see what i mean

I understand what you're trying to say but come on Sal....you don't tell the people who are defending your country that they are only doing so because they are stupid.

There is a way to say the war is wrong and a way to make yourself look like a total jackass...John Kerry like MANY politicians seems sooooo disconnected and it's disheartening to the average voter.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

"You better study hard and stay in school or you'll get stuck in Iraq"

What a waste of life that fucker is! That is one of the reasons I didn't vote for him, he's a pompus ass! Radio show host Don Imus gave him a chance to apologize for his comment but NOOOOOOO Johny wanted to stick it to President Bush AND Former P.O.W. Senator John McCain.

John McCain - "The people who serve our country do not do so because of any lack of education but because they are patriots and their country called on them in a time of need and they responded."

If guys like Kerry would stop attacking President Bush and start formulating ideas about what to do about our current situation then I may consider voting for them but it's so bad right now it feels like the Democrats just want people to go and die in Iraq so they can say "I told you so".







Sorry for the political rant but this just lit my fuse today! And I am sure many others will be pissed about it too, no matter what they think of W or the war.

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Lyle ,didnt he mean it in the way that ,rich educated children dont get put out into the front line?

Insinuating that some basic soldiers from the general population who havent anything to gain from a war or a rebuliding contract are used by people higher up for the shit work.

No if he said that he'd have caught the same ammount of heat seeing how he went to congress against Vietnam (as a soldier) and he married the Heinz Ketchup heiress.

In his prepared speech he was supposed to say that "if you don't get a good education you will get us (the American People) stuck in a situation like Iraq, just ask George Bush."

Yeah, it's funny laughing at a guy who went to fucking YALE....W might not have any common sense but I don't doubt he has SOME mental ability......more so than John Kerry.


My whole thing is that politicians are so into name calling and all that negative bullshit it makes me think "You're both dumbasses why the fuck are you running if you did all this evil stuff the other guy said about you and the same for the other guy".....I look at the ballot and think "Who can screw this up the least"

Oh and the point of John Kerry having Millions and millions of dollars makes him more disconnected...no one can relate to him unless you're a flaming liberal or a millionaire.

What does rich boy George W. Bush do for fun? He goes to Texas and clears brush....even poor people work in the yard

What does John Kerry do for fun? Oh he snow skis, he parasails, wind surfs, all of the stuff fancy rich people do

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Ragu....that might be one of the most ridiculous statements EVER

To be an officer you HAVE......you HAVE.....to have a college degree.

Everyone knows most of the National Guardsmen out there are trying to pay their way through college

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there is less than 1 officer to 30 soldiers.....next..not many of the national guardsmen are doing this to go to college..in fact many are just leeching off the Govt. which is why they are so unprepared for anything that resembles the military...They are NOT the military....those in the Active ARMY call reservists and national guardsmen "Cannon Fodder".

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Oh and the point of John Kerry having Millions and millions of dollars makes him more disconnected...no one can relate to him unless you're a flaming liberal or a millionaire.

What does rich boy George W. Bush do for fun? He goes to Texas and clears brush....even poor people work in the yard

What does John Kerry do for fun? Oh he snow skis, he parasails, wind surfs, all of the stuff fancy rich people do

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A few years back, Kerry was to McDonalds for campaigned hype , he was ordering food while the camera's were rolling . the minute the cameras went off . He tossed the food in the trash and went to a 4 star restaurant. What a fake douche bag ! ;)

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No if he said that he'd have caught the same ammount of heat seeing how he went to congress against Vietnam (as a soldier) and he married the Heinz Ketchup heiress.

In his prepared speech he was supposed to say that "if you don't get a good education you will get us (the American People) stuck in a situation like Iraq, just ask George Bush."

Yeah, it's funny laughing at a guy who went to fucking YALE....W might not have any common sense but I don't doubt he has SOME mental ability......more so than John Kerry.


My whole thing is that politicians are so into name calling and all that negative bullshit it makes me think "You're both dumbasses why the fuck are you running if you did all this evil stuff the other guy said about you and the same for the other guy".....I look at the ballot and think "Who can screw this up the least"

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Same everywhere mate ,over here in Oz too.
Who would want to do that job ,other than someone who felt a deep personal need of some sort ; it attracts its own types.
I think those jobs attract people who lack self satisfaction on a base level to start with.
People who run for positions of power over other people are usually the youngest souls on the planet. The ones who feel deep down they need to leave a mark or get on top of others for a career.
Like cops there are some normal ones out there for sure and they keep the others on a leash, but not many of them ,most have something to prove from a basic lacking from within themselves.
Its strange how many people with speach impediments are eventually attracted to public speaking too ???

people sign up 4 the army voluntarily--so until theres a draft he should keep quite---nobody likes kerry the guys a loser