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Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
I'm not a member of boxingtalk but apparently on the front page Oscar said he doesn't want to fight Floyd anymore because he no longer "feels" the fight.
I wonder what this does for Floyd's "retirement" :lol:
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
DLH isn't "feeling" the Mayweather fight because he knows there is an excellent chance that he will be completely embarassed against him.
"Not feeling" = scared.
I don't know way he is chasing Trinidad so much...talk about someone "picking" their fights.
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
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Originally Posted by dasamm
DLH isn't "feeling" the Mayweather fight because he knows there is an excellent chance that he will be completely embarassed against him.
"Not feeling" = scared.
I don't know way he is chasing Trinidad so much...talk about someone "picking" their fights.
I agree with you here. Oscar's worried about his legacy. If he fights Floyd, he wont win. He will probably be embarrassed like you said. And you know he doesnt want to retire on an "L". He's lookin at Felix because he feels he could beat him and he's probably right. Plus theres that old score that needs to be settled between those two. That sucks though. I really wanted to see Delahoya fight Mayweather.
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
Oscar and Floyd are playing games.. its like chess... this is simply his counter move to Floyd's retirement statement. It keeps Oscar in control, he is definatley a little bit more experienced at the game then lil'Floyd.
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
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Originally Posted by dasamm
DLH isn't "feeling" the Mayweather fight because he knows there is an excellent chance that he will be completely embarassed against him.
"Not feeling" = scared.
I don't know way he is chasing Trinidad so much...talk about someone "picking" their fights.
Who wants to chase someone around all night long and have the crowd be restless ? Not I . Now if Delahoya can negotiate the ring size , that might be alright. 18 foot ring baby . no more 24-26 foot track fields !
Floyd is a great fighter. He has tremendous skills, and can fight when he has too . but you can't give the man a running lane , because Floyd would rather not take chances and get on the bicycle, especially if he perceives a threat. However if you shorten that ring about 8 feet, we could have a good solid fight ! his last performance did nothing for future Mayweather PPV events, especially with all the hype about how he was going to "Go to war with Baldo" , "Toe to toe action" he said =
"Not feeling" = not feeling it. I can understand that comment completely.
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by dasamm
DLH isn't "feeling" the Mayweather fight because he knows there is an excellent chance that he will be completely embarassed against him.
"Not feeling" = scared.
I don't know way he is chasing Trinidad so much...talk about someone "picking" their fights.
Who wants to chase someone around all night long and have the crowd be restless ? Not I . Now if Delahoya can negotiate the ring size , that might be alright.
18 foot ring baby . no more 24-26 foot track fields !
Floyd is a great fighter. He has tremendous skills, and can fight when he has too . but you can't give the man a running lane , because Floyd would rather not take chances and get on the bicycle, especially if he perceives a threat. However if you shorten that ring about 8 feet, we could have a good solid fight ! his last performance did nothing for future Mayweather PPV events, especially with all the hype about how he was going to "Go to war with Baldo" , "Toe to toe action" he said =
"Not feeling" = not feeling it. I can understand that comment completely.
Well, floyd typically doesnt do as much running as he did against baldomir. Look at his past 3: Judah, Mitchell, Gatti. TKO'd mitchell and gatti and mixed it up with Judah.
He did play it awfully safe against baldomir, but maybe that's cause Roger wasn't in his corner? I mean, he could have opened up a lot more, but he still put on a technically excellent performance.
Plus, ODLH *claimed* he didn't even see the fight, in which case he wouldn't be expecting to chase floyd around. I think he knows that he would be outclassed against PBF. However, I do HOPE this is just a little tango the two are doing. I would be really disappointed if this fight didn't happen. It's true that PBF needs DLH and Oscar doesn't need floyd. I really feel that is oscar is serious about not fighting floyd than it really is because he fears the likely embarrassment that would result in the fight. PBF can make anyone look bad and dlh knows it.
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
I think Oscar saying he didn't see the fight is total BS but if he didn't he plans to and would already have a copy.
With only one fight before retirement it might all come down to juggling numbers for Oscar..
If he fights Tito he still gets a bite of the Mayweather cherry as promoter for Mosley v Mayweather but Tito wants 20mil..
If he fights Mayweather and Mosley doesn't he only gets revenue for one fight and how much is the self absorbed little sh1thead going to want?
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
He didn't even run that much against Baldomir... and If ODLH doesn't want to fight Mayweather because he moves around then he's a hypocrite because ODLH used movment against Trinidad to highest degree, and Mosley in some parts...
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
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Originally Posted by Taeth
He didn't even run that much against Baldomir... and If ODLH doesn't want to fight Mayweather because he moves around then he's a hypocrite because ODLH used movment against Trinidad to highest degree, and Mosley in some parts...
Floyd's movement in the ring would have no bearing on Oscar's decision what so ever. Oscar (over 5'10 and 73"reach) has good movement and a good jab himself just watch the 2nd Mosley fight and I believe Mosley was just as fast as Floyd (5'8 and 72"reach).
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
I agree with you guys,Oscar is just pulling a ploy. He didn't see the fight? Give me a break! Like someone said,it's to counter Floyd nonsense "I'm retiring" ploy,he wants De La Hoya NOW.And again,not feeling means I know I won't be able to beat him,especially in a ring of that size! CC for the news Starr.
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
I don't think ODH would be "completely humiliated".....Floyd cannot trade with him the way Mosley did because Floyd doesn't have Shane's chin!!!
I think Oscar just doesn't want to deal with the family drama
and if that is the case, Mosley should fight Floyd!!! Oscar should fight Margarito, Forrest, Spinks, Karmazin, or Winky Wright.....or rematch Felix Sturm
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I don't think ODH would be "completely humiliated".....Floyd cannot trade with him the way Mosley did because Floyd doesn't have Shane's chin!!!
I think Oscar just doesn't want to deal with the family drama
and if that is the case, Mosley should fight Floyd!!! Oscar should fight Margarito, Forrest, Spinks, Karmazin, or Winky Wright.....or rematch Felix Sturm
I totally disagree about the family drama! Totally! One minute Mayweather snr was saying he would not train Oscar,then he aid the situation had to be right etc etc. It's BS! If Oscar wants to fight Floyd,he'll fight him,no one is stopping him. I;d want to see Oscar Tito,the other fights on your list are unrealistic.
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I don't think ODH would be "completely humiliated".....Floyd cannot trade with him the way Mosley did because Floyd doesn't have Shane's chin!!!
I think Oscar just doesn't want to deal with the family drama
and if that is the case, Mosley should fight Floyd!!! Oscar should fight Margarito, Forrest, Spinks, Karmazin, or Winky Wright.....or rematch Felix Sturm
How do you know he dosent have Shanes chin??? Oh yea!!!! Floyd hasnt been caught and has superior defense over Shane. Thats why
Why the Hell should Oscar fight Karmazin, Margarito who hasnt done shit do deserve Floyd let alone get in the ring with DLH or Shot Ass pathetic Forrest ??? If and I mean If Quartey beats Winky to me thats the fight that needs to Happen DLH vs Quartey..Lord knows Ike deserves it and I think he gets looked over from great status..A Win against Dlh would put him in the Hall and in the conversation of greats of this time...
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
If there's someone out there who I think can beat Floyd its gotta be Oscar. I don't think it will be like many say here that Oscar will be totally dominated. Come on! Oscar is no journey man! Oscar has a sharp cutting jab, speed, KO power, etc. Plus, his hands don't get hurt like Floyd's ::**. This fight, if it ever happens, will not be easy for both. Imagine all the money that can be done with this fight.
Come on Oscar and Floyd, GO FOR IT!
Chino
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
Oscar couldn't even beat Mosley (he lost to him twice), so why would he be able to beat PBF? Floyd's much younger, and still in his prime. I think Mosley has a better chance of beating him.
If I was Oscar, I'd rather fight an older shot fighter like Tito too.
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
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Originally Posted by dasamm
DLH isn't "feeling" the Mayweather fight because he knows there is an excellent chance that he will be completely embarassed against him.
"Not feeling" = scared.
I don't know way he is chasing Trinidad so much...talk about someone "picking" their fights.
Totally. I would not pay one dollar to watch DLH vs. Trinidad -- what a joke. Wait, who's someone that got beaten into retirement two years ago after losing every single round of a fight? Yeah, that's who Oscar should fight. $50 to watch! Maybe he should call out Baldomir next! ;D
Mayweather would win pretty much every round against DLH--way too much speed, way too good of a defense. Agreed that Mosely-Mayweather would be a better fight (because Mosely is a better fighter than DLH), but DLH is just being a big pussy here. Maybe he should call out JCC or Sugar Ray Leonard next. I'm sure those are fights he'd "feel".
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
Yeah DLH needs to sac up and fight someone awesome for his last fight. Or just retire right now and go back to latin pop singing and maybe some Sprint commercials down the line... O0
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
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Originally Posted by eugepang
Oscar couldn't even beat Mosley (he lost to him twice), so why would he be able to beat PBF? Floyd's much younger, and still in his prime. I think Mosley has a better chance of beating him.
If I was Oscar, I'd rather fight an older shot fighter like Tito too.
Go watch those two fights again or maybe for the first time ::** because they both were damn close! the first was a split decision and the second it could be argued Oscar won. The Mosley that Oscar fought would of ran over the top of Floyd. ;)
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
Eugepang,
The second fight against Mosley was questionable. There was no doubt he lost the first one but the second one, Iiiiiii dunno.
It would be interesting to have them exchange punches. Oscar is no journeyman!
Chino
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
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Originally Posted by Hairdoo
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Originally Posted by eugepang
Oscar couldn't even beat Mosley (he lost to him twice), so why would he be able to beat PBF? Floyd's much younger, and still in his prime. I think Mosley has a better chance of beating him.
If I was Oscar, I'd rather fight an older shot fighter like Tito too.
Go watch those two fights again or maybe for the first time ::** because they both were damn close! the first was a split decision and the second it could be argued Oscar won. The Mosley that Oscar fought would of ran over the top of Floyd. ;)
The first SSM-ODLH fight was a split decision only because DLH was still undefeated and megapopular. That fight was no means a split decision, it should have been unanimous. Shane clearly outboxed and outpointed Oscar. The second one i had for DLH. I think the judges took it away because he pulled his running thing after the eighth or ninth but i thought he had enough rounds in the book to take it, same as i did when he fought Trinidad years back.
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
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Originally Posted by Chino
If there's someone out there who I think can beat Floyd its gotta be Oscar. I don't think it will be like many say here that Oscar will be totally dominated. Come on! Oscar is no journey man! Oscar has a sharp cutting jab, speed, KO power, etc. Plus, his hands don't get hurt like Floyd's ::**. This fight, if it ever happens, will not be easy for both. Imagine all the money that can be done with this fight.
Come on Oscar and Floyd, GO FOR IT!
Chino
WInky Wright can beat PBF. He's got it all. Why doesn't PBF chase the tested pound for pound great in Winky?? I know why.
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
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Originally Posted by Chino
If there's someone out there who I think can beat Floyd its gotta be Oscar. I don't think it will be like many say here that Oscar will be totally dominated. Come on! Oscar is no journey man! Oscar has a sharp cutting jab, speed, KO power, etc. Plus, his hands don't get hurt like Floyd's ::**. This fight, if it ever happens, will not be easy for both. Imagine all the money that can be done with this fight.
Come on Oscar and Floyd, GO FOR IT!
Chino
WInky Wright can beat PBF. He's got it all. Why doesn't PBF chase the tested pound for pound great in Winky?? I know why.
Yea I know why...Cause PBF is a Small Welter at 145 and Winky is fighting MIddleweight at 160lb...That was an easy one ;)
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
i aint too happy about the decision he is making here. a mayweather fight would be perfect as i feel it could go either way. de la hoya vs mayweather is the fight that should happen and i feel thats it
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
You are quite correct JT. I don't see what is so wrong with sticking around 140-147. It is a jam packed division that I think PBF would by far be best at.
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
You are quite correct JT. I don't see what is so wrong with sticking around 140-147. It is a jam packed division that I think PBF would by far be best at.
Agreed Boozer my Friend.....Official fight weight 146lbs for the Baldi fight I think Floyd trying to do 154lbs for Oscar is PUSHING the envelope I can see the reward for the risk but Floyd shouldnt try making a living at 154 ;)
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
I am by no means an expert but I'm 27 and I have seen all of these fights that we talk about here. I lost a lot of respect for Oscar when he danced around TITO. I also felt bad for him against the SHANE fights. I thought he was courageous for fighting B HOP. I thought he would have a tough fight against MAYORGA but put on a spectacular show. I am really pissed that he won't fight MAYWEATHER!!! The sad thing is he can use that TITO rematch as an argument that is hard to dispute. He has convinced himself that saying that a rematch with TITO is a legitimate option than to fight MAYWEATHER. I would agree 1% that he should re fight TITO but 99% says he is truly unwilling to fight PBF I wouldn't say scared but he isn't confident or he wouldn't be acting this way. You can say PBF ran all you want against BALDO but what did you expect? He won his own way. You think anyone would want to scrap with BALDO? Also to all you MARGAITO nut huggers he wouldn't stand a chance with BALDO little lone MAYWEAHTER
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
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Originally Posted by dasamm
DLH isn't "feeling" the Mayweather fight because he knows there is an excellent chance that he will be completely embarassed against him.
"Not feeling" = scared.
I don't know way he is chasing Trinidad so much...talk about someone "picking" their fights.
oh please Floyd aint got shit on Oscar especially if the fight happens at 154 with one of Oscar's lethal left hooks n it's all over for the loud mouth arrogant Mayweather ::**
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
i say floyd vs. mosley
thats the fight we should all want
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Re: Oscar says PBF fight ISN'T happening(and still isnt giving up on Trinidad)
it is a good fight I have to admit, although Mosley has lost a little speed and fights more on the inside now, and that will not work with FLoyd. But it would be interesting.
