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What is Hatton doing???
I think that the biggest fight that everyone has been wanting since 2005 has been PBF vs Hatton. Honestly, I think everyone can agree that maybe Hatton doesn't wanna fight PBF. At first, I thought maybe Hatton has other plans, but what other plans could he have? He didn't want to fight PBF at 140 in 2005 because he openly said he wasn't ready. In 2006, PBF chased the fight a bit but Hatton priced himself out to the tune of 13 million dollars. Now Hatton is choosing to move back down to 140 and chase titles again after initially moving up to 147 because PBF was. I would easily say Hatton doesn't want none of PBF, but every once while he'll give an interview saying that he doesn't think that Floyd is that impressive and blah, blah, blah. I don't understand what his plans are. Anybody that keeps up with Ricky, what do you think he is doing? Is he happy with making good money fighting mandatories for the rest of his career without a big challenge or is he waiting until he gets more experience?
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Ever since the Collazo fight.
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Hatton is carving out interest in the states with HBO.
HBO have always aired Mayweather and he is arguably their poster-boy.
Hatton will face Floyd late 2007 after Urango, then Castillo.
Either that or he will go for Cotto.
The little fella had a fight on his hands with Slippery Collazo and it seemed that his legal wrangles where getting to him.
Now he is refreshed, he'll be seeking the hunger for the big fights again.
Atlanta first, then NY , then Vegas baby!
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....actually I think more people want Hatton-Cotto than Hatton-Mayweather
Main reason is you KNOW Hatton-Cotto will be competitive and a BRAWL....Mayweather-Hatton is either just like Floyd's last fight or Hatton wrestles him all night
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Originally Posted by Lyle
....actually I think more people want Hatton-Cotto than Hatton-Mayweather
Main reason is you KNOW Hatton-Cotto will be competitive and a BRAWL....Mayweather-Hatton is either just like Floyd's last fight or Hatton wrestles him all night
Agreed.
Hatton - Mayweather should've happened a long time ago. I would've sold my left arm for that fight a year and a half or so ago.
Hatton - Cotto would be very very entertaining.
Mayweather has moved on up. This ship has sadly sailed.
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What Hatton is currently doing is fighting a paper champion bum named Urango, while at the same time ducking Mayweather and Collazo.
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firstly slbsur2006 i wouldnt beleive everything you read. and with regard to hatton he should have chalanged witter for the WBC crown to please the UK audiance, but with one thing or another (i dunno why and this pisses me off)he is goin for urango (another southpaw and a young undefeated prospect who is more risky than witter). then him and castillo are (planning) to have a war. then ricky hopes mayweather becons soon and will have no more excuses after that. and for ricky there is nothing after mayweather cos he is the best P4P. then he's planning to retire undefeated and move into either training or being a boxing pundit (like baz mcguigan).
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
firstly slbsur2006 i wouldnt beleive everything you read. and with regard to hatton he should have chalanged witter for the WBC crown to please the UK audiance, but with one thing or another (i dunno why and this pisses me off)he is goin for urango (another southpaw and a young undefeated prospect who is more risky than witter). then him and castillo are (planning) to have a war. then ricky hopes mayweather becons soon and will have no more excuses after that. and for ricky there is nothing after mayweather cos he is the best P4P. then he's planning to retire undefeated and move into either training or being a boxing pundit (like baz mcguigan).
How many threads are you gonna post that PBF is making excuses for not fighting Hatton?
Hatton turned down PBF 3 times, and then priced himself out.
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I can't see how any true fight fan would want to see Hatton vs Mayweather.
Hatton is like Baldomir, only not as big and not as strong.
Mayweather would stop him in the late rounds after giving him the beat down to end all beat downs.
And I'm a brit and a Hatton fan. No way Hatton mixes it with Mayweather.
Collazo was a test that stretched him to his limits, what do you think Floyd would do to him?
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bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
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Hatton - Cotto would more entertaining , or Hatton -vs.- Corrales. Floyd should be avoided unless the moneys right and the ring size can be negotiated. nothing over 18 foot . otherwise to much frustration for both the opponent and the fan. Hell even my wife was frustrated watching Mayweather the other night.. " I just want to bitch slap him, but id never be able to catch him," she said . and she is right on the money ! 18 foot ring or no deal ! put it in the contract ! O0
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I don't know why everyone is looking past this Urango fight like it's gonna be a pushover.
Yea, I agree, Urango truely lost his fight to Ben Rabah. But BR was on his bike the whole fight and Urango could do nothing but chase him around the ring and get countered. Hatton is gonna come at Urango and trade. I hate to tell ya', but Urango has some mean power! He might not have been able to connect with BR, but he WILL connect with Hatton. I'm not sayin Urango is gonna pull of the upset, but it will be a war and if Urango sneaks in a good combo, it might shock Hatton. Whatever the result, I see this being full of fireworks throughout the fight.
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hatton has already showed he has got a good chin. but aparently urango is like a mini southpaw tyson (which doesnt sound good). it wories me when he fights these risky felas. but hatton always knows the score and he should be more that prepareed for this with enough notice (unlike the colazo fight~)
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I don't know why everyone is looking past this Urango fight like it's gonna be a pushover.
Yea, I agree, Urango truely lost his fight to Ben Rabah. But BR was on his bike the whole fight and Urango could do nothing but chase him around the ring and get countered. Hatton is gonna come at Urango and trade. I hate to tell ya', but Urango has some mean power! He might not have been able to connect with BR, but he WILL connect with Hatton. I'm not sayin Urango is gonna pull of the upset, but it will be a war and if Urango sneaks in a good combo, it might shock Hatton. Whatever the result, I see this being full of fireworks throughout the fight.
I been saying that for many moons ! Cool Click. a fantastic crowd pleasing fight, this match ! O0
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I don't know why everyone is looking past this Urango fight like it's gonna be a pushover.
Yea, I agree, Urango truely lost his fight to Ben Rabah. But BR was on his bike the whole fight and Urango could do nothing but chase him around the ring and get countered. Hatton is gonna come at Urango and trade. I hate to tell ya', but Urango has some mean power! He might not have been able to connect with BR, but he WILL connect with Hatton. I'm not sayin Urango is gonna pull of the upset, but it will be a war and if Urango sneaks in a good combo, it might shock Hatton. Whatever the result, I see this being full of fireworks throughout the fight.
I been saying that for many moons ! Cool Click. a fantastic crowd pleasing fight, this match ! O0
It shouldn't be.. Hatton needs to pummel this guy if he's going to prove anything.. He can't afford another razor thin decision or highly competitive fight against some mediocre belt holder. It isn't going to help him line up a fight with Castillo or Cotto, let alone Mayweather. And he doesn't have the excuse of weight this time.
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
Mayweather could switch his stance and become twice the southpaw that Collazo or Urango are.. Hatton doesn't just struggle against southpaws he struggles against talented and motivated fighters. Watch the Collazo fight again, in the post fight even Luis said it was his right hand that hurt Hatton the most.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
....actually I think more people want Hatton-Cotto than Hatton-Mayweather
Main reason is you KNOW Hatton-Cotto will be competitive and a BRAWL....Mayweather-Hatton is either just like Floyd's last fight or Hatton wrestles him all night
Yep, Hatton Cotto is the goods!
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
Mayweather could switch his stance and become twice the southpaw that Collazo or Urango are.. Hatton doesn't just struggle against southpaws he struggles against talented and motivated fighters. Watch the Collazo fight again, in the post fight even Luis said it was his right hand that hurt Hatton the most.
Anyone is going to have problems with talented motivated fighters ! the only problem Hatton had with Collozo was the sheer size difference. Its hard to impose your will on a bigger stronger fighter. 147 was just to big for Ricky's style. even so and he still pulled out the win.. Urango is a southpaw, but negates that advantage by squaring up .. Should be a great fight !
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
Mayweather could switch his stance and become twice the southpaw that Collazo or Urango are.. Hatton doesn't just struggle against southpaws he struggles against talented and motivated fighters. Watch the Collazo fight again, in the post fight even Luis said it was his right hand that hurt Hatton the most.
Anyone is going to have problems with talented motivated fighters ! the only problem Hatton had with Collozo was the sheer size difference. Its hard to impose your will on a bigger stronger fighter. 147 was just to big for Ricky's style. even so and he still pulled out the win.. Urango is a southpaw, but negates that advantage by squaring up .. Should be a great fight !
Nicely said!
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
Mayweather could switch his stance and become twice the southpaw that Collazo or Urango are.. Hatton doesn't just struggle against southpaws he struggles against talented and motivated fighters. Watch the Collazo fight again, in the post fight even Luis said it was his right hand that hurt Hatton the most.
Anyone is going to have problems with talented motivated fighters ! the only problem Hatton had with Collozo was the sheer size difference. Its hard to impose your will on a bigger stronger fighter. 147 was just to big for Ricky's style. even so and he still pulled out the win.. Urango is a southpaw, but negates that advantage by squaring up .. Should be a great fight !
Yet Mayweather didn't have problems with Baldomirs size difference.... Why was that? Because he just ran, Im sure you'll say.. Never mind the fact that he can execute a different game plan and adapt if he needs to.. Hatton can't. And if he and Urango are in a competitive fight it just takes away from Hattons status even more.. Urango is nothing he has lost decisevly to the two decent opponents he's fought.. Urango, and even moreso Arnatouis.
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Hatton - Mayweather: Fight stops on cuts around round 9 as Hattons eye is a bloody mess, or a shutout for Mayweather. 120 - 108 Mayweather.
Hatton - Cotto: Hatton TKO 4 - 8, Cotto likes to brawl, Hatton would win a brawl with Cotto because Hatton could take Cottos best shots which is impressive but Cotto could go 12 rounds with Hatton. Hatton by TKO.
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
Mayweather could switch his stance and become twice the southpaw that Collazo or Urango are.. Hatton doesn't just struggle against southpaws he struggles against talented and motivated fighters. Watch the Collazo fight again, in the post fight even Luis said it was his right hand that hurt Hatton the most.
Anyone is going to have problems with talented motivated fighters ! the only problem Hatton had with Collozo was the sheer size difference. Its hard to impose your will on a bigger stronger fighter. 147 was just to big for Ricky's style. even so and he still pulled out the win.. Urango is a southpaw, but negates that advantage by squaring up .. Should be a great fight !
Yet Mayweather didn't have problems with Baldomirs size difference.... Why was that? Because he just ran, Im sure you'll say.. Never mind the fact that he can execute a different game plan and adapt if he needs to.. Hatton can't. And if he and Urango are in a competitive fight it just takes away from Hattons status even more.. Urango is nothing he has lost decisevly to the two decent opponents he's fought.. Urango, and even moreso Arnatouis.
Your a mind reader P4P !! ... yes styles do dictate what you can and cannot do ... Mayweather style is hit and run.. now he can fight when he feels un threatened. but if he feels the heat from a bigger fighter he can stick and move... on the other hand Hatton is a come right str8 at you type fighter, who imposes his will on his opponent.. Hatton's style does not lend itself to moving up and fighting bigger guys ! how are you going to bully a bigger stronger fighter? You can't , simple mathematics . Hatton is 5'6 on his tip toes ! 140 is where he belongs ! Excellent fighter this Urango fellow... its going to be a real crowd pleasing fight ! ;)
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Originally Posted by Pantera
I don't know why everyone is looking past this Urango fight like it's gonna be a pushover.
Yea, I agree, Urango truely lost his fight to Ben Rabah. But BR was on his bike the whole fight and Urango could do nothing but chase him around the ring and get countered. Hatton is gonna come at Urango and trade. I hate to tell ya', but Urango has some mean power! He might not have been able to connect with BR, but he WILL connect with Hatton. I'm not sayin Urango is gonna pull of the upset, but it will be a war and if Urango sneaks in a good combo, it might shock Hatton. Whatever the result, I see this being full of fireworks throughout the fight.
Word.
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
Mayweather could switch his stance and become twice the southpaw that Collazo or Urango are.. Hatton doesn't just struggle against southpaws he struggles against talented and motivated fighters. Watch the Collazo fight again, in the post fight even Luis said it was his right hand that hurt Hatton the most.
Anyone is going to have problems with talented motivated fighters ! the only problem Hatton had with Collozo was the sheer size difference. Its hard to impose your will on a bigger stronger fighter. 147 was just to big for Ricky's style. even so and he still pulled out the win.. Urango is a southpaw, but negates that advantage by squaring up .. Should be a great fight !
Yet Mayweather didn't have problems with Baldomirs size difference.... Why was that? Because he just ran, Im sure you'll say.. Never mind the fact that he can execute a different game plan and adapt if he needs to.. Hatton can't. And if he and Urango are in a competitive fight it just takes away from Hattons status even more.. Urango is nothing he has lost decisevly to the two decent opponents he's fought.. Urango, and even moreso Arnatouis.
Your a mind reader P4P !! ... yes styles do dictate what you can and cannot do ... Mayweather style is hit and run.. now he can fight when he feels un threatened. but if he feels the heat from a bigger fighter he can stick and move... on the other hand Hatton is a come right str8 at you type fighter, who imposes his will on his opponent.. Hatton's style does not lend itself to moving up and fighting bigger guys ! how are you going to bully a bigger stronger fighter? You can't , simple mathematics . Hatton is 5'6 on his tip toes ! 140 is where he belongs ! Excellent fighter this Urango fellow... its going to be a real crowd pleasing fight ! ;)
Spot on lords Gym in your summary cc.
Hatton was not himself that night against Collazo, he admitted that himself. When you look at the amount of jabs he connected with tells a huge part of it. He landed with 5, now thats not what Ricky would normally do. IMO he fought poorly due to the pressure of his first HBO big fight, the legal wranglings in the lead up to it, and the forced jump up in weight to 147 courtesy of HBO, which inturn resulted in him having just 7 weeks to train for the welter division.
Hattons desired route, would be to unify the LWW division, fighting Catillo in the process, and then hopefully fighting Floyd back end of 2007. Thats if Floyd is still around. ;)
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
Yep 'll give you he has trouble with southpaws.
But he would also have trouble with a superfast, superslick boxer like Floyd.
I can be a genuine fan of a fighter, as I am of Hatton, whilst still being realistic enough to recognise that he's just not in the same league as Mayweather.
Think Calzaghe Lacy, Mayweather Coralles, Mayweather Gatti, Mayweather Baldimor etc.
I love Jeff Lacy and Diego Coralles too but they sure as hell got owned when they fought an elite boxing tactiction and I fear Ricky would be no different.
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
Mayweather could switch his stance and become twice the southpaw that Collazo or Urango are.. Hatton doesn't just struggle against southpaws he struggles against talented and motivated fighters. Watch the Collazo fight again, in the post fight even Luis said it was his right hand that hurt Hatton the most.
Anyone is going to have problems with talented motivated fighters ! the only problem Hatton had with Collozo was the sheer size difference. Its hard to impose your will on a bigger stronger fighter. 147 was just to big for Ricky's style. even so and he still pulled out the win.. Urango is a southpaw, but negates that advantage by squaring up .. Should be a great fight !
Yet Mayweather didn't have problems with Baldomirs size difference.... Why was that? Because he just ran, Im sure you'll say.. Never mind the fact that he can execute a different game plan and adapt if he needs to.. Hatton can't. And if he and Urango are in a competitive fight it just takes away from Hattons status even more.. Urango is nothing he has lost decisevly to the two decent opponents he's fought.. Urango, and even moreso Arnatouis.
Your a mind reader P4P !! ... yes styles do dictate what you can and cannot do ... Mayweather style is hit and run.. now he can fight when he feels un threatened. but if he feels the heat from a bigger fighter he can stick and move... on the other hand Hatton is a come right str8 at you type fighter, who imposes his will on his opponent.. Hatton's style does not lend itself to moving up and fighting bigger guys ! how are you going to bully a bigger stronger fighter? You can't , simple mathematics . Hatton is 5'6 on his tip toes ! 140 is where he belongs ! Excellent fighter this Urango fellow... its going to be a real crowd pleasing fight ! ;)
Spot on lords Gym in your summary cc.
Hatton was not himself that night against Collazo, he admitted that himself. When you look at the amount of jabs he connected with tells a huge part of it. He landed with 5, now thats not what Ricky would normally do. IMO he fought poorly due to the pressure of his first HBO big fight, the legal wranglings in the lead up to it, and the forced jump up in weight to 147 courtesy of HBO, which inturn resulted in him having just 7 weeks to train for the welter division.
Hattons desired route, would be to unify the LWW division, fighting Catillo in the process, and then hopefully fighting Floyd back end of 2007. Thats if Floyd is still around. ;)
CC back mate ! ;)
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
bilbo. if you were a hatton fan as you claim you would know that hatton always has trouble with southpaws (
ever since his amature days many moons ago) but yet he's still fighting another southpaw next year. and if you had followed hatton and mayweather you would see that that is a quality fight in the making.
Yep 'll give you he has trouble with southpaws.
But he would also have trouble with a superfast, superslick boxer like Floyd.
I can be a genuine fan of a fighter, as I am of Hatton, whilst still being realistic enough to recognise that he's just not in the same league as Mayweather.
Think Calzaghe Lacy, Mayweather Coralles, Mayweather Gatti, Mayweather Baldimor etc.
I love Jeff Lacy and Diego Coralles too but they sure as hell got owned when they fought an elite boxing tactiction and I fear Ricky would be no different.
Think Barry Mcguigan Escudo Pedroza ;)
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I can't see how any true fight fan would want to see Hatton vs Mayweather.
Hatton is like Baldomir, only not as big and not as strong.
Mayweather would stop him in the late rounds after giving him the beat down to end all beat downs.
And I'm a brit and a Hatton fan. No way Hatton mixes it with Mayweather.
Collazo was a test that stretched him to his limits, what do you think Floyd would do to him?
Would Baldomir beat Tszyu then?
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Originally Posted by bilbo
I can't see how any true fight fan would want to see Hatton vs Mayweather.
Hatton is like Baldomir, only not as big and not as strong.
Mayweather would stop him in the late rounds after giving him the beat down to end all beat downs.
And I'm a brit and a Hatton fan. No way Hatton mixes it with Mayweather.
Collazo was a test that stretched him to his limits, what do you think Floyd would do to him?
:lol: :lolhaha:
You cant be serious? Hatton is miles and miles and miles better than baldimor in every aspect of the game with the exception maybe of strength
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
I think that the biggest fight that everyone has been wanting since 2005 has been PBF vs Hatton. Honestly, I think everyone can agree that maybe Hatton doesn't wanna fight PBF. At first, I thought maybe Hatton has other plans, but what other plans could he have? He didn't want to fight PBF at 140 in 2005 because he openly said he wasn't ready. In 2006, PBF chased the fight a bit but Hatton priced himself out to the tune of 13 million dollars. Now Hatton is choosing to move back down to 140 and chase titles again after initially moving up to 147 because PBF was. I would easily say Hatton doesn't want none of PBF, but every once while he'll give an interview saying that he doesn't think that Floyd is that impressive and blah, blah, blah. I don't understand what his plans are. Anybody that keeps up with Ricky, what do you think he is doing? Is he happy with making good money fighting mandatories for the rest of his career without a big challenge or is he waiting until he gets more experience?
Right my slant on this is, yes if Hatton fights PBF it will defintly be the most dangerous fight out there for him and his career, but if the fight was to happen right now what sort of money would be ont he table?? Id say tops $15 million, at worst id see Hatton taking 40/60 in PBF favour if in America, so that would mean $9 million to PBF and $6 million Hatton, firstly would PBF be happy with giving up such a share when he can fight the likes of Baldomir and others for like 80/20 split?? I dont think so, Hatton is still basically making his name in the American boxing world, and he wants to hold more cards when negotiating with PBF, for example if he beats Uranga then puts on a show against Castillo in the summer of 07, then the American public will no more about him and this will give him more negotiating skills meaning he can claim more money, Hatton would fight PBF no problem but he wants to be paid what he feels he is worth similar to PBF.
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PBF makes me laugh.
He cannot sell out Mandalay Bay yet he expects $9m. Hatton sells out a 22,000 MEN arena everytime he fights there and PBF expects him to take less. Once Hatton is as popular stateside he will also sell out these venues, and with that he should have greater bargining power for a fairer split of the purse.
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I think that the biggest fight that everyone has been wanting since 2005 has been PBF vs Hatton. Honestly, I think everyone can agree that maybe Hatton doesn't wanna fight PBF. At first, I thought maybe Hatton has other plans, but what other plans could he have? He didn't want to fight PBF at 140 in 2005 because he openly said he wasn't ready. In 2006, PBF chased the fight a bit but Hatton priced himself out to the tune of 13 million dollars. Now Hatton is choosing to move back down to 140 and chase titles again after initially moving up to 147 because PBF was. I would easily say Hatton doesn't want none of PBF, but every once while he'll give an interview saying that he doesn't think that Floyd is that impressive and blah, blah, blah. I don't understand what his plans are. Anybody that keeps up with Ricky, what do you think he is doing? Is he happy with making good money fighting mandatories for the rest of his career without a big challenge or is he waiting until he gets more experience?
Right my slant on this is, yes if Hatton fights PBF it will defintly be the most dangerous fight out there for him and his career, but if the fight was to happen right now what sort of money would be ont he table?? Id say tops $15 million, at worst id see Hatton taking 40/60 in PBF favour if in America, so that would mean $9 million to PBF and $6 million Hatton, firstly would PBF be happy with giving up such a share when he can fight the likes of Baldomir and others for like 80/20 split?? I dont think so, Hatton is still basically making his name in the American boxing world, and he wants to hold more cards when negotiating with PBF, for example if he beats Uranga then puts on a show against Castillo in the summer of 07, then the American public will no more about him and this will give him more negotiating skills meaning he can claim more money, Hatton would fight PBF no problem but he wants to be paid what he feels he is worth similar to PBF.
Good points Skel1983 CC 8)
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PBF makes me laugh.
He cannot sell out Mandalay Bay yet he expects $9m. Hatton sells out a 22,000 MEN arena everytime he fights there and PBF expects him to take less. Once Hatton is as popular stateside he will also sell out these venues, and with that he should have greater bargining power for a fairer split of the purse.
Of course you realize Hatton only drew in 8,000 people when he fought Collazo right? And his perfomance that night will not draw in any new American fans.
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PBF makes me laugh.
He cannot sell out Mandalay Bay yet he expects $9m. Hatton sells out a 22,000 MEN arena everytime he fights there and PBF expects him to take less. Once Hatton is as popular stateside he will also sell out these venues, and with that he should have greater bargining power for a fairer split of the purse.
Of course you realize Hatton only drew in 8,000 people when he fought Collazo right? And his perfomance that night will not draw in any new American fans.
8000 people is a great start, give him a chance.
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PBF makes me laugh.
He cannot sell out Mandalay Bay yet he expects $9m. Hatton sells out a 22,000 MEN arena everytime he fights there and PBF expects him to take less. Once Hatton is as popular stateside he will also sell out these venues, and with that he should have greater bargining power for a fairer split of the purse.
Of course you realize Hatton only drew in 8,000 people when he fought Collazo right? And his perfomance that night will not draw in any new American fans.
8000 people is a great start, give him a chance.
I do give him a chance, but you have to think about the fact that this was the first time for casual boxing fans from america to see him. That is their only impression, and it wasn't a good enough performance for them to take the time to go to youtube to see his other fights. Also, his next fight is against Juan Urango, also not a draw for American audiences. If Hatton is looking to sell out arenas in America, he is going about it the wrong way.
We all know that everyone and their kin will go to see him at MEN, we get it, he is popular in the UK. Just don't imply that things will work the same stateside, you can't speak for us.
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Re: What is Hatton doing???
Is'nt 8,000 not far off what PBF drew in against Baldomir ;D
And in Rickys first big stateside fight 8)
Hatton has massive pulling power
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by Mattyhitman
PBF makes me laugh.
He cannot sell out Mandalay Bay yet he expects $9m. Hatton sells out a 22,000 MEN arena everytime he fights there and PBF expects him to take less. Once Hatton is as popular stateside he will also sell out these venues, and with that he should have greater bargining power for a fairer split of the purse.
Of course you realize Hatton only drew in 8,000 people when he fought Collazo right? And his perfomance that night will not draw in any new American fans.
Of course i realise this. And do you not realise that, for a largely unknown fighter in casual boxing fans eyes as Ricky is stateside, that 8000 is a good start. Bet you this pal, not one of the fans that night walked out early, or even boo'ed the performance. ;)
Do ya not think that the percentage's will play a part in the numbers Ricky could attract stateside. How many people live in the UK and turn up to watch him fight. Compare this to the size of the american audience and the potential to draw even more than the 22,000 he gets in the UK. He has a style of fighting that will get people out and pay to watch. I guess the only way this can be decided is to look at PPV figures once Ricky has had his 3rd fight on HBO and compare them to other PPV fighters around. Will be interesting to see the figures of Floyds last fight.
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Re: What is Hatton doing???
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
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Originally Posted by bilbo
I can't see how any true fight fan would want to see Hatton vs Mayweather.
Hatton is like Baldomir, only not as big and not as strong.
Mayweather would stop him in the late rounds after giving him the beat down to end all beat downs.
And I'm a brit and a Hatton fan. No way Hatton mixes it with Mayweather.
Collazo was a test that stretched him to his limits, what do you think Floyd would do to him?
Would Baldomir beat Tszyu then?
If Tszyu came back now and fought Baldimor at 147 then I'd say it was a 50/50 fight.
Baldomir couldnt get near Floyd because he was too quick and elusive. He wouldn't have that problem with Tyszu. Would be a great slugfest.
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Originally Posted by bilbo
I can't see how any true fight fan would want to see Hatton vs Mayweather.
Hatton is like Baldomir, only not as big and not as strong.
Mayweather would stop him in the late rounds after giving him the beat down to end all beat downs.
And I'm a brit and a Hatton fan. No way Hatton mixes it with Mayweather.
Collazo was a test that stretched him to his limits, what do you think Floyd would do to him?
I agree. Mayweather would light that boy up.
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Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford
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Originally Posted by bilbo
I can't see how any true fight fan would want to see Hatton vs Mayweather.
Hatton is like Baldomir, only not as big and not as strong.
Mayweather would stop him in the late rounds after giving him the beat down to end all beat downs.
And I'm a brit and a Hatton fan. No way Hatton mixes it with Mayweather.
Collazo was a test that stretched him to his limits, what do you think Floyd would do to him?
I agree. Mayweather would light that boy up.
I think Mayweather would beat Hatton, but no where near as easily as he beat Baldomire, Collazo gave him problems but there was many reasona for that, i think a Hatton on form will give Mayweather problems. But id say Mayweather will have to many answers.
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Is'nt 8,000 not far off what PBF drew in against Baldomir ;D
And in Rickys first big stateside fight 8)
Hatton has massive pulling power
Better change that to 6,000 that Hatton drew...the rest were Mannies that followed him over. ;D
He aint got the American fans yet & he sure didn't invade much when he came about.
