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Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
Just read on BBC that this fight could be on the horizon
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6132408.stm
Like wtf ?!?! These aren't the fights that Joe should be looking for at this stage in his career. Is Manfredo really in his class - ok he's no mug but if it wasn't for The Contender he wouldn't be as big a name as he is.
Ok he is ranked 10 by The Ring but Joe has to be looking at bigger marquee names surely.
I hope this fight doesn't happen
What does everyone else think ?
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
Double edged sword imo
He should go after Kessler and grab his belts BUT if he fights Manfredo he gets much more US exposure in the process.
I'd like to see him batter Kessler but feel he'll go to fight Manfredo in the US ;)
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
don't know how much longer Joe is intending ongoing on for but he needs the big ones to bring out the best in him - which it will ;)
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
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Double edged sword imo
He should go after Kessler and grab his belts BUT if he fights Manfredo he gets much more US exposure in the process.
I'd like to see him batter Kessler but feel he'll go to fight Manfredo in the US ;)
What makes you think Manfredo is some sort of big name in the states? Because he was on a tv show that basically no one watches? Joe would be better off fighting some girl from "American Idol" if his looking for exposure... :P
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
Never said Manfredo was a big name in the states only that fighting him there will give him more US exposure than fighting Kessler. ;)
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
Manfredo is garbage. And Calzaghe is a fuckin coward if he fights him. Simple as that.
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Never said Manfredo was a big name in the states only that fighting him there will give him more US exposure than fighting Kessler. ;)
Trust me,Joe fighting Manfredo wont help him. And what is the point anyway? If this was Kessler I could see the logic as he has many years ahead of him. Joe is about done. I say Joe should take the money while its still being offered.
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Never said Manfredo was a big name in the states only that fighting him there will give him more US exposure than fighting Kessler. ;)
Trust me,Joe fighting Manfredo wont help him. And what is the point anyway? If this was Kessler I could see the logic as he has many years ahead of him. Joe is about done. I say Joe should take the money while its still being offered.
Why would somebody turn down the biggest purse of his career? Fear.
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Never said Manfredo was a big name in the states only that fighting him there will give him more US exposure than fighting Kessler. ;)
Trust me,Joe fighting Manfredo wont help him. And what is the point anyway? If this was Kessler I could see the logic as he has many years ahead of him. Joe is about done. I say Joe should take the money while its still being offered.
Why would somebody turn down the biggest purse of his career? Fear.
Fear LMAO!!
Yes he must be shaking in his boots a guy who has had over 200 fights and has been in with strong men like Lacy and Eubank, lets see you try having 200 fights, he doesnt want to fight in Denmark it's as simple as that, which in away is understandable personally i would go for $3.7 million ( if that is actully correct i have my doubts) I cant really see Calzaghe knocking many guys out these days with his dodgy Left hand, so that means to the scorecards, now Kessler is more adored in Denmark than Ricky Hatton he is there national hero, so i can see Calzaghe getting no favours, now thats the only fear i see the fear of being screwed over if you meant that which i doubt you did i apologise, but im quite certain you did.
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Never said Manfredo was a big name in the states only that fighting him there will give him more US exposure than fighting Kessler. ;)
Trust me,Joe fighting Manfredo wont help him. And what is the point anyway? If this was Kessler I could see the logic as he has many years ahead of him. Joe is about done. I say Joe should take the money while its still being offered.
Why would somebody turn down the biggest purse of his career? Fear.
Hopkins turned down the biggest purse of his career to fight joe IN THE US - but u defended him doing that... dip shit
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Why would somebody turn down the biggest purse of his career? Fear.
Depends who it is. If its Joe Calzaghe then he is obviously a low down yellow coward. If its Bernard Hopkins thats Ok becasue he is being smart.
Cant have it both ways mate.
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
Im not surorised someone beat me to it ;D
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
Honestly,
This doesnt say much for Manfredo...Usually, when someone like JC wants an exposure fight, they pick out someone that will give up a bit of a fight, but in the end be dominated by JC's skills in the ring....
Truthfully, there are better fighters by far in the class that Joe could fight, but maybe he feels more comfortable taking this one....
I would rarher see him beat Kesslers ass first though,,,,Kessler is much to overated in my book.
Good Luck,
Coach
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
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Originally Posted by Memphis
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Why would somebody turn down the biggest purse of his career? Fear.
Depends who it is. If its Joe Calzaghe then he is obviously a low down yellow coward. If its Bernard Hopkins thats Ok becasue he is being smart.
Cant have it both ways mate.
I love B-Hop but I have had my Displeasures over some of his career choices as well..Trust me he aint squeaky clean by any means..... ;)
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
calzaghe needs another promoter
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
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Originally Posted by Memphis
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Why would somebody turn down the biggest purse of his career? Fear.
Depends who it is. If its Joe Calzaghe then he is obviously a low down yellow coward. If its Bernard Hopkins thats Ok becasue he is being smart.
Cant have it both ways mate.
Bernard Hopkins got a considerably bigger purse to fight DLH then he would have to fight Roy Jones, and he only didn't accept that fight because he wanted 50%.. Which still wouldn't have been as much as the 15 million he got to fight Oscar.. I don't know why nobody ever realizes this.
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Never said Manfredo was a big name in the states only that fighting him there will give him more US exposure than fighting Kessler. ;)
Trust me,Joe fighting Manfredo wont help him. And what is the point anyway? If this was Kessler I could see the logic as he has many years ahead of him. Joe is about done. I say Joe should take the money while its still being offered.
Why would somebody turn down the biggest purse of his career? Fear.
Hopkins turned down the biggest purse of his career to fight joe IN THE US - but u defended him doing that... dip S***
HAHAHAHAHA. First, when are you talking about? After Hopkins retired? Second, regardless of when you're talking about, this is ridiculous--Joe Calzaghe (a total non-draw "IN THE US") is somehow going to bring B-Hop a bigger purse than ODH did?? This is just foolish.
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Never said Manfredo was a big name in the states only that fighting him there will give him more US exposure than fighting Kessler. ;)
Trust me,Joe fighting Manfredo wont help him. And what is the point anyway? If this was Kessler I could see the logic as he has many years ahead of him. Joe is about done. I say Joe should take the money while its still being offered.
Why would somebody turn down the biggest purse of his career? Fear.
Hopkins turned down the biggest purse of his career to fight joe IN THE US - but u defended him doing that... dip S***
HAHAHAHAHA. First, when are you talking about? After Hopkins retired? Second, regardless of when you're talking about, this is ridiculous--Joe Calzaghe (a total non-draw "IN THE US") is somehow going to bring B-Hop a bigger purse than ODH did?? This is just foolish.
First off, ODH was not in the picture when he agreed to fight Calzaghe at the time his biggest pay day, but pulled out 24 hours later after upping his pay by 100%, so at the time it was his biggest payday.
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Bernard Hopkins got a considerably bigger purse to fight DLH then he would have to fight Roy Jones, and he only didn't accept that fight because he wanted 50%.. Which still wouldn't have been as much as the 15 million he got to fight Oscar.. I don't know why nobody ever realizes this.
I couldnt give a fuck what Hopkins got after or before. He turned down more money than he had ever earned before, right or wrong?
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Never said Manfredo was a big name in the states only that fighting him there will give him more US exposure than fighting Kessler. ;)
Trust me,Joe fighting Manfredo wont help him. And what is the point anyway? If this was Kessler I could see the logic as he has many years ahead of him. Joe is about done. I say Joe should take the money while its still being offered.
Why would somebody turn down the biggest purse of his career? Fear.
Hopkins turned down the biggest purse of his career to fight joe IN THE US - but u defended him doing that... dip shit
Hopkins had the De La hoya fight on the horizon, dumbass. Which was worth a lot more. What's Calzcrappy got that's worth more than Kessler? Manfredo? Bika rematch? Third fight with Veit? He doesn't have anything and you fuck it know it.
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Never said Manfredo was a big name in the states only that fighting him there will give him more US exposure than fighting Kessler. ;)
Trust me,Joe fighting Manfredo wont help him. And what is the point anyway? If this was Kessler I could see the logic as he has many years ahead of him. Joe is about done. I say Joe should take the money while its still being offered.
Why would somebody turn down the biggest purse of his career? Fear.
Hopkins turned down the biggest purse of his career to fight joe IN THE US - but u defended him doing that... dip S***
HAHAHAHAHA. First, when are you talking about? After Hopkins retired? Second, regardless of when you're talking about, this is ridiculous--Joe Calzaghe (a total non-draw "IN THE US") is somehow going to bring B-Hop a bigger purse than ODH did?? This is just foolish.
First off, ODH was not in the picture when he agreed to fight Calzaghe at the time his biggest pay day, but pulled out 24 hours later after upping his pay by 100%, so at the time it was his biggest payday.
Read bitch. Or have your boyfriend read it to you.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/article-9235743-details/Joe's+dream+fight+awaits/article.do;jsessionid=yxz1FCpfSjLJNkM83knZJBRJTrl7 YdyFJJ2gCGWqw1TDCzK5WVNZ!933563175
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Never said Manfredo was a big name in the states only that fighting him there will give him more US exposure than fighting Kessler. ;)
Trust me,Joe fighting Manfredo wont help him. And what is the point anyway? If this was Kessler I could see the logic as he has many years ahead of him. Joe is about done. I say Joe should take the money while its still being offered.
Why would somebody turn down the biggest purse of his career? Fear.
Hopkins turned down the biggest purse of his career to fight joe IN THE US - but u defended him doing that... dip S***
Hopkins had the De La hoya fight on the horizon, dumbass. Which was worth a lot more. What's Calzcrappy got that's worth more than Kessler? Manfredo? Bika rematch? Third fight with Veit? He doesn't have anything and you F*** it know it.
yea, thats what i was thinking....what does he have. he certainly wont make much fighting mr.2nd place contender
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
a kessler fight is miles better than a manfredo fight .
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
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Originally Posted by ds91
a kessler fight is miles better than a manfredo fight .
light years better........who is Joes advisor? That person needs to be fired
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by ds91
a kessler fight is miles better than a manfredo fight .
light years better........who is Joes advisor? That person needs to be fired
yeah i agree mate lol
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Never said Manfredo was a big name in the states only that fighting him there will give him more US exposure than fighting Kessler. ;)
Trust me,Joe fighting Manfredo wont help him. And what is the point anyway? If this was Kessler I could see the logic as he has many years ahead of him. Joe is about done. I say Joe should take the money while its still being offered.
Why would somebody turn down the biggest purse of his career? Fear.
Hopkins turned down the biggest purse of his career to fight joe IN THE US - but u defended him doing that... dip S***
HAHAHAHAHA. First, when are you talking about? After Hopkins retired? Second, regardless of when you're talking about, this is ridiculous--Joe Calzaghe (a total non-draw "IN THE US") is somehow going to bring B-Hop a bigger purse than ODH did?? This is just foolish.
yeah it really is foolish.
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
Calzaghe v Manfredo will pull 40,000 to the Millenium Stadium plus a massive world - wide TV audience , due to Manfredo`s international profile through The Contender .
Calzaghe will see it as a safe defence while Manfredo will see it as an opportunity , as an improving fighter , to pull off a shock against a complacent opponent who might be passing his best days .
What`s the problem here ?
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Re: Calzaghe to fight Manfredo ?? Does Joe need this at this stage of his career
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Originally Posted by Grendal
Calzaghe v Manfredo will pull 40,000 to the Millenium Stadium plus a massive world - wide TV audience , due to Manfredo`s international profile through The Contender .
Calzaghe will see it as a safe defence while Manfredo will see it as an opportunity , as an improving fighter , to pull off a shock against a complacent opponent who might be passing his best days .
What`s the problem here ?
Welcome to the forum Grendal :)
It's pure business this fight (winnable against someone who is known worldwide-like you said)
Some of our US friends/JC haters think Manfredo isn't known globally even though the Contender was a huge worldwide hit with massive viewing figures ;)
Basically Manfredo is better known than Kessler worldwide by the average man so there is method in the madness :)