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After watching the Oscar De La Hoya career set he surely must go down as one of the best boxers off all time and I would say for sure he is the best white fighter ever at the very least,his accuracy,his grit his punching power,winning at different weights...How does other people on the forum feel about him...
I thought he was latino ???
Anyways, yeah he was a great fighter and I think the Golden Boy image helps detract from that a little bit but 10-15 years I think we'll look at De La Hoya like we do Ray Leonard simply because of the number of big fights he had.
He surely will go down as one off the best lightweights off all time he would not have lost if he stayed at the lower weights...
Just one thing... He is not white, he is hispanic ;D. If he was white *which he is not* then yes... he would be the best white fighter EVER.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel2smooth79
Ok I got that wrong,well anyway,I still think he is one off the greatest fighters,watched his first fight with Mosley last night great fight..
hispanic is a color/race? ???Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
ODH is white
Well I did not mean it to cos all this fuss,to me De La Hoya is clearly white but apart from all this,the thread was opened just to say he is a lot better then I ever thought he was...
Please see my sig. below & my avatar for my opinion...... ;)
Lets drop this whole color thing, nigel2smooth has cleared that up for us so before this thread gets lost into a heated debate about color an or ethnicity lets just drop it....
Anyway!! IMO.....When ODLH retires he will go down as one of the greatest.... 8)
One of the greatest fighters of recent times, no doubt about it IMO. Close to Ray Leonard IMO and thats saying something!
ODLH white! hahaha, whattaya fwokin' nuts! :lolhaha:
Gyrokai thats been settled my man!! :)
He cleared that up...
Sorry... still funny IMO. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Don't need to be :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Just trying to steer clear of ALL this bullshet!! thats been happening as of late one too many threads ebding up 'locked' and or
'moved'....
I think everyone might be being a bit over sensitive of the matter...besides...we all know that Oscar is Golden, baby! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Great fighter,awesome resume but one of the best ever? I'm not sure. Certainly an awesome fighter though and great for boxing. Who will have the better legacy,Oscar or Tito?
true ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
best thing about Oscar is he always comes to fight!! Tito was the only one to put him on his bike but for as good a reason as any i believe. If a miracle happens and he fights and beats Winky in his last fight then he will be considered by some the greatest Lightweight ever!!
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Originally Posted by nigel2smooth79
In fact, he is so white that he burns my eyes :o
A fantastic fighter - what a career he has had. The Olympic Gold, then cutting a swathe through the sport. He is the real thing alright - good technique, heavy handed, good handspeed, didn't cut up, a great boxer-puncher.Quote:
Originally Posted by dasamm
He even got onto the Simpsons!!
White/Hispanic/Black - who gives a fuck? - our grandkids will remember De la Hoya. How many other current fighters could you say that about.
I never forgave ODLH for beating Julio Cesar Chavez (or the remains of him anyway), but hats off to Oscar - a true champion and with some brains too.
Yeah he was very good,does anyone think he will fight Mayweather,and wot about shane Mosley he must be very good to have beat De La Hoya,I do understand De La Hoya had moved up a weight to fight him,he also did give him a good fight...
i personally think mosley vs dela hoya should be 1-1 i think dela hoya was robbed in 2nd fight with mosleyQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel2smooth79
Let me just say this...I was ring side for that fight...& Mosley thought that Oscar was robbed too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
The fwock lit up like a kid in a candy store. He knew that was a wack assed call.
yea agreed this is punchstats PUNCH STAT NUMBERS De La Hoya total = 221-616 (36%) Mosley total = 127-496 (26%) jabs = 106-296 (36%) jabs = 33-268 (12%) power punches = 115-320 (36%) power punches = 94-228 (41%)
plus this is what mosley said= I really don't know what to think about that [investigation]. All I know is that I won the fight, I'm the legitimate champion of the world,". "I feel like I won a couple of fights that I lost, or won a fight that I lost…what can you do?"
he's one of the pure best in my opinion. he has so much skill it amazes me
yeah I think he is awsome I have nearly seen all his fights now,and from watching his fights nobody really beat him like I mean where you would say he was beat up,Tridiad fight was very close,and the 2 mosley fights also allthough the first Mosley will give him that one only fight he was clearly beat was Bernard Hopkins fight,and even in that fight he got caught by a lucky body blow,allthough Hopkins did deserve his win,but you have to look at it this way Hopkins was fighting at his more natural weight,I am not an expert in boxing but please correct me if I am wrong...
He's great for sure.. But I would not say one of the greatest ever.. I wouldn't honestly even say he's in the top 5 fighters of his era.... Roy JOnes, Whittaker, MOrales, Barrera, Hopkins, Toney, Ricardo Lopez, I would consider them all greater personally... I think if you take away his star quality he wasn't actually superior to any of them, and it is evident if you watch enough of his fights... He is perhaps a top 5 lightweight of all time, but he was freaking huge at 135 that was a big edge for him, and he didn't really fight any stellar lightweights.. I would put Whittaker Duran and Mosley ahead of him for sure, on a basis of who was p4p the best.. I also don't think it's a question of what if he had stayed there, because I doubt he could have continued to make the weight.
CC,excellent analysis. I've always wondered has Oscar's star power may be made him seem like a better fighter than he was? He is a good fighter but how good?Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
(ps bro,on another note,you seen Ricardo Lopez v Rosendo Alvarez,that has to be one of my fave fights ever,SOOOOO much skill!)
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Originally Posted by p4pking
But how do we remember ODH? as a Lightweight or Welterweight? Most of his big fights have been at the higher weights and it seems like he has been there for a long time so I went for a look at his record to see in what weight class he fought the most and it was as follows:
20 bouts below 140
15 bouts below 154
7 bouts below 160
so to answer my own question, yes he fought the majority of his career as a Lightweight.
Another thing I noticed that I had forgotten was when he fought JCC it was his first fight at 140 and Chavez 97-1 had only dropped 1 split decision to Franky Randall prior so he deserves a little more credit for that win than most give him ;)