Is Briggs serious?

After lackluster effort against probably the least qualified soviet representative in the heavyweight division with/had a belt he thinks he can compete with Klitschko? I don't even know if I would give him a puncher's chance simply because he didn't throw any punches in his last fight... Wladimir is too big, too smart, and too skilled for Briggs who he would pick apart. I think he would do the same against any of his current competition, but I want to see him fight Valuev just because Valuev has the same arm length as him, but is taller and has damn hard jab(which I think could stun Wladimir).

Well, I think he's serious about getting his ass whipped if he wants to fight Wladimir.


Valuev is unproven, untested, and VERY easy to hit

I know that about Valuev but so is every other champion.. the only difference is Wladimir has never foughten anyone larger than him which is a big factor, and the other one is that Valuev seems to be able to hit opponetns, and though he is easy to hit, as of yet he hasn't been hurt.

You gotta understand at this moment Briggs was just giving it one last go something like a la Baldomir, just in there trying to make the best of their last go at boxing.... In other words making the most $ as possible....

And guess who can give him the BIGGE$T pay check out there....


Ding! ding! ding!
Thats right Wladdy...

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Originally Posted by Taeth

I know that about Valuev but so is every other champion.. the only difference is Wladimir has never foughten anyone larger than him which is a big factor, and the other one is that Valuev seems to be able to hit opponetns, and though he is easy to hit, as of yet he hasn't been hurt.

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Valuev has been hurt more than once and he held like a baby...Did it in brewster fight first 30 seconds when Brewster came out strong. Truth is Valuev holds a lot.....Most all of his opp has fought him wrong...TOO much respect for him....His punches are not all that strong....He doesnt hit as hard as Wlad or Oleg...Very slow....Key to beating Valuev is speed ( which Wlad is gaining a bunch of) and combo's....Get in get off move so he doesn't hold....He can't keep a constant pace....

Vital would have murdered him...Lewis also.....IMO Chris Byrd would beat him. Byrd would be to slick and frustrate the giant. ....

Brewster had the right idea...Start fast but then you need to keep moving...In and out...But keep it up for 5 or 6 rds...Don't be intimidated...Stay composed and don't be intimidated his power is not that hard....

Tua
Peter
Wlad
Oleg
Rahman
Briggs.........

All hit harder

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Originally Posted by Taeth

I know that about Valuev but so is every other champion.. the only difference is Wladimir has never foughten anyone larger than him which is a big factor, and the other one is that Valuev seems to be able to hit opponetns, and though he is easy to hit, as of yet he hasn't been hurt.

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Valuev has been hurt more than once and he held like a baby...Did it in brewster fight first 30 seconds when Brewster came out strong. Truth is Valuev holds a lot.....Most all of his opp has fought him wrong...TOO much respect for him....His punches are not all that strong....He doesnt hit as hard as Wlad or Oleg...Very slow....Key to beating Valuev is speed ( which Wlad is gaining a bunch of) and combo's....Get in get off move so he doesn't hold....He can't keep a constant pace....

Vital would have murdered him...Lewis also.....IMO Chris Byrd would beat him. Byrd would be to slick and frustrate the giant. ....

Brewster had the right idea...Start fast but then you need to keep moving...In and out...But keep it up for 5 or 6 rds...Don't be intimidated...Stay composed and don't be intimidated his power is not that hard....

Tua
Peter
Wlad
Oleg
Rahman
Briggs.........

All hit harder

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Valuev has never fought Brewster

Do you mean Barrett ;D

yup

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Originally Posted by Taeth

I know that about Valuev but so is every other champion.. the only difference is Wladimir has never foughten anyone larger than him which is a big factor, and the other one is that Valuev seems to be able to hit opponetns, and though he is easy to hit, as of yet he hasn't been hurt.

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He's never fought any one tall enough to hurt him... you can't punch hard above your head... ;)

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Originally Posted by Taeth

I know that about Valuev but so is every other champion.. the only difference is Wladimir has never foughten anyone larger than him which is a big factor, and the other one is that Valuev seems to be able to hit opponetns, and though he is easy to hit, as of yet he hasn't been hurt.

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Valuev has been hurt more than once and he held like a baby...Did it in brewster fight first 30 seconds when Brewster came out strong. Truth is Valuev holds a lot.....Most all of his opp has fought him wrong...TOO much respect for him....His punches are not all that strong....He doesnt hit as hard as Wlad or Oleg...Very slow....Key to beating Valuev is speed ( which Wlad is gaining a bunch of) and combo's....Get in get off move so he doesn't hold....He can't keep a constant pace....

Vital would have murdered him...Lewis also.....IMO Chris Byrd would beat him. Byrd would be to slick and frustrate the giant. ....

Brewster had the right idea...Start fast but then you need to keep moving...In and out...But keep it up for 5 or 6 rds...Don't be intimidated...Stay composed and don't be intimidated his power is not that hard....

Tua
Peter
Wlad
Oleg
Rahman
Briggs.........

All hit harder

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Valuev has never fought Brewster

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Yeah I ment Barrett....Why I called him Brewster I dunno... ???....It's because they all suck!!!!!!!!!....

The whole division is like one big cluster F%$#.....For Christ Sakes two of the four champion are actually washed up fighters...In any other Era except the Mid 80's Between Holme's/Spink's and pre Tyson....They would have been long gone.....The heavy's are just garbage.A freak and two washed up fighters hold title's...Wlad is the only one worth something and he is always one good shot away from defeat

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

He's never fought any one tall enough to hurt him... you can't punch hard above your head... ;)

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Allow me to bring these fights up

Dempsey-Willard
Tyson-Holmes, Golota, and Tyrell Biggs
Pryor-Arguello

It's not as hard as you would think to punch up, you just have to know how to do it.

I for one would LOVE to see Wlad attack Valuev's body....oh that would be SICK, Wlad diggin a hook to the liver....I would LOVE TO SEE IT!

I know that Lyle, but out of the guys he has fought with a decent punch, none had as little a height difference that the guys you listed.

You can punch up to a certain extent but you can't use them as examples... Ruiz has what? 2-3 inches on Tyson.

Tyson beat Holmes who had 3-4 inches on him... not 10 inches. None of those guys had more than 5 inches... most of valuev's opponents are giving up at least 6-7 inches, often more Barret gave up 9.

Valvuev hasn't fought one fighter who could punch that was tall enough to not loose all of their power punching up at him.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Well, I think he's serious about getting his a** whipped if he wants to fight Wladimir.


Valuev is unproven, untested, and VERY easy to hit

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seems like we talk about this once a week.....Briggs is a bum....Wlad would destroy him!!!!!

Oh yeah but if that's the case the body needs to be attacked

Dempsey 6'1 - Willard 6'7

Tyson 5'11 - Holmes 6'4

Tyson 5'11 - Briggs 6'5

A hard punching guy even if it's David Tua should be able to KO Valuev. If you notice, he keeps his legs really wide and fights short to an extent, I think to protect the body, but either way I think Valuev's chin isn't that good and a smart fighter will know not only HOW but WHEN to catch him.

Wladimir would demolish that chump

He's got the height, power and smarts to do it. King knows this.

Every one else out there could get him, he is very beatable but Wlad is almost a dead cert... most of the other tall heavys suck, the other guys should try his body because they won't get his head.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Oh yeah but if that's the case the body needs to be attacked

Dempsey 6'1 - Willard 6'7

Tyson 5'11 - Holmes 6'4

Tyson 5'11 - Briggs 6'5

A hard punching guy even if it's David Tua should be able to KO Valuev. If you notice, he keeps his legs really wide and fights short to an extent, I think to protect the body, but either way I think Valuev's chin isn't that good and a smart fighter will know not only HOW but WHEN to catch him.

Wladimir would demolish that chump

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Wlad is a big man himself...he wouldn't have to punch up that much..plus a straight right to the gut usually brings down the head...

Get him to lower his head and a lot of guys could take him out, he likes to stand really upright so he can't be hit but this exposes his body... which - if the fighter can work it proerly - will get him to slouch.

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Get him to lower his head and a lot of guys could take him out, he likes to stand really upright so he can't be hit but this exposes his body... which - if the fighter can work it proerly - will get him to slouch.

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Agreed 100%....Problem is most guys are to worried about how to get to his head to take their time and break him down...Truth is Valuev is soft in the body you can see that.....

IMO crazy as it sounds a young Tyson would have done this perfectly....With his 3 and 4 puch combos and the fact he had the power on his punches with the speed he would have hooked the body two and three times til Valuev slouched over like you said to try and block a bit then Mike would have came in with upper cuts to the face

Apparently Briggs said that he have very bad asthma going into that fight and if thats the case that explains why he was about to pass out. Apparently he had to go to the doctors right after for some breathing treatment. If thats the case I would completely understand why he looked the way he did. I've too have asthma and I know what it can do to you.

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Get him to lower his head and a lot of guys could take him out, he likes to stand really upright so he can't be hit but this exposes his body... which - if the fighter can work it proerly - will get him to slouch.

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Agreed 100%....Problem is most guys are to worried about how to get to his head to take their time and break him down...Truth is Valuev is soft in the body you can see that.....

IMO crazy as it sounds a young Tyson would have done this perfectly....With his 3 and 4 puch combos and the fact he had the power on his punches with the speed he would have hooked the body two and three times til Valuev slouched over like you said to try and block a bit then Mike would have came in with upper cuts to the face

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Yeah... he could do with doing a few sit ups... tyson is custom made for this guy... or at least his style is.

Tyson would launch hooks onto the body and then upper cuts once he made them lower their head.

briggs is a joke...

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Originally Posted by Taeth

After lackluster effort against probably the least qualified soviet representative in the heavyweight division with/had a belt he thinks he can compete with Klitschko? I don't even know if I would give him a puncher's chance simply because he didn't throw any punches in his last fight... Wladimir is too big, too smart, and too skilled for Briggs who he would pick apart. I think he would do the same against any of his current competition, but I want to see him fight Valuev just because Valuev has the same arm length as him, but is taller and has damn hard jab(which I think could stun Wladimir).

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To be Honest mate i think well imo anyway only Wlad would beat Sergi, i think Sergi would beat the other two.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

I know that about Valuev but so is every other champion.. the only difference is Wladimir has never foughten anyone larger than him which is a big factor, and the other one is that Valuev seems to be able to hit opponetns, and though he is easy to hit, as of yet he hasn't been hurt.

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Valuev has been hurt more than once and he held like a baby...Did it in brewster fight first 30 seconds when Brewster came out strong. Truth is Valuev holds a lot.....Most all of his opp has fought him wrong...TOO much respect for him....His punches are not all that strong....He doesnt hit as hard as Wlad or Oleg...Very slow....Key to beating Valuev is speed ( which Wlad is gaining a bunch of) and combo's....Get in get off move so he doesn't hold....He can't keep a constant pace....

Vital would have murdered him...Lewis also.....IMO Chris Byrd would beat him. Byrd would be to slick and frustrate the giant. ....

Brewster had the right idea...Start fast but then you need to keep moving...In and out...But keep it up for 5 or 6 rds...Don't be intimidated...Stay composed and don't be intimidated his power is not that hard....

Tua
Peter
Wlad
Oleg
Rahman
Briggs.........

All hit harder

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People have said Valuev has been hurt, but all the video evidence they've shown has indicated in no way that Valuev was hurt.

....did you watch the Barrett fight???


He was stunned in the first round....Barrett just couldn't follow up

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Originally Posted by Taeth

I know that about Valuev but so is every other champion.. the only difference is Wladimir has never foughten anyone larger than him which is a big factor, and the other one is that Valuev seems to be able to hit opponetns, and though he is easy to hit, as of yet he hasn't been hurt.

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Valuev has been hurt more than once and he held like a baby...Did it in brewster fight first 30 seconds when Brewster came out strong. Truth is Valuev holds a lot.....Most all of his opp has fought him wrong...TOO much respect for him....His punches are not all that strong....He doesnt hit as hard as Wlad or Oleg...Very slow....Key to beating Valuev is speed ( which Wlad is gaining a bunch of) and combo's....Get in get off move so he doesn't hold....He can't keep a constant pace....

Vital would have murdered him...Lewis also.....IMO Chris Byrd would beat him. Byrd would be to slick and frustrate the giant. ....

Brewster had the right idea...Start fast but then you need to keep moving...In and out...But keep it up for 5 or 6 rds...Don't be intimidated...Stay composed and don't be intimidated his power is not that hard....

Tua
Peter
Wlad
Oleg
Rahman
Briggs.........

All hit harder

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People have said Valuev has been hurt, but all the video evidence they've shown has indicated in no way that Valuev was hurt.

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He has never really been in any trouble in all of the fights that I have seen him in.Here is the worst shape he has ever been in.Here is a link to a video where he was in a little trouble but fought back and won the fight.[youtube=425,350]KaigdKiO8Xc[/youtube]

...I think in the Bidenko fight he was more tired than anything else


Barrett rocked him good...he just didn't follow up

I think he has been on the boarderline of going down before vs some not so impressive punchers

[youtube=425,350]dTwS0buW2ss[/youtube]
1 minute 4 seconds in.....BANG right cross....that's Otis fucking Tisdale!!!!

Barrett's right hurt him more than that!

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Originally Posted by Lyle

[youtube=425,350]dTwS0buW2ss[/youtube]
1 minute 4 seconds in.....BANG right cross....that's Otis fucking Tisdale!!!!

Barrett's right hurt him more than that!

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Barrett's first right hand hurt him a lot!

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Originally Posted by Lyle

[youtube=425,350]dTwS0buW2ss[/youtube]
1 minute 4 seconds in.....BANG right cross....that's Otis F****** Tisdale!!!!

Barrett's right hurt him more than that!

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How did you post the video from utube?

I'll help you with that Klitschkofan.

Take the url from youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5uPaNxcq7w

Then place the part after the = sign in between the youtube columns

taking this

e5uPaNxcq7w

Place it in between this

[ y o u t u b e = 4 2 5 , 3 5 0 ] [ / y o u t u b e ]

No spaces ok.

so take this

e5uPaNxcq7w

between this

[ y o u t u b e = 4 2 5 , 3 5 0 ] [ / y o u t u b e ]

Looks like

[ y o u t u b e = 4 2 5 , 3 5 0 ] e5uPaNxcq7w [ / y o u t u b e ]

Get rid of the spaces, and you get this

[youtube=425,350]e5uPaNxcq7w[/youtube]

That should help.

Thanks a lot Majesty!Cool click for you!

I forgot how entertaining this fight was http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bWSAIC16Ek

Briggs ran out of steam quite quick, thats the reason lewis started catching him, he was taking breathers, he could also have carried on as the last time he went down was just him throwing a left hook off balance much like Nigel benn used to.

Lewis was just as tired as Briggs if not more

Briggs looked great all muscled and ripped up. but he could hardly fight one round!!! one round!!!!
Had his mouth open and was suckin air atthe start of teh second! he was pathetic! sergei was just as bad! Any 1/2 decent fighter will kill him if he performs like that again! any fighter! it was a joke!
I dunno about the big 7' freak....decent punch output.probably hits hard with out having to use too much energy to load up on punches. head looks like a old pumpkin from halloween about november 15th. Big mellon head hard to ko. he kinda scrunches down when he fights though...doent fight tall or use his shoulder width to increase his reach. when hurt he puts the earmuffs on and bends over right down to the guys power..fights down to 6'6" or so. tall standup european style bigger guys will negate the huge hieght and reach advantage with proper stance and style. BUT! this guy is VERY raw still. I think the potential is huge. he needs to have the piston jab and right hand of holmes and hed be unbeatable. mind you....i could be wrong lol!