I think Vargas would be too big and strong for Mayorga, but it would be an interesting slugfest IMO... they should fight.
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I think Vargas would be too big and strong for Mayorga, but it would be an interesting slugfest IMO... they should fight.
Yeah the fight will be dubbed: TITO RUINED OUR CAREERS!
And ODLH
I wouldn't pay to see those two bums fight in my backyard.
Washed up athletes are why reality tv was invented. IMawesomeO
LMFAO! :coolclick:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
Hahaha, yeah Oscar had Titos Sloppy Seconds :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
vargas would own mayorga. simple as that. mayorga has no skill and vargas does
I recon Mayorga would take Vargas, Both were shit in there last fight though!
still i'd pay to see them fight, then again I love watching Mayorga fight anyone!
always brings entertainment to the ring!
Mayorga was done WAAAAAAAAY before that, losing to a guy named Spinks I believeQuote:
Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
He did lose to Spinks but tough guys are proud guys and Mayorga is tough as hell. Tito was the one that made him feel like he wasn't made of iron. I'm sure he felt humiliated by having to go down to avoid punishment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
This fight actaully would be a cracker! Vargas just needs to keep his head and he would box circles around Mayorga, but if they get into a brawl, boy we have some fight on our hands then!
I would go with Mayorga only cuz Vargas looks to be the more shot one.
I never thought about a match between these two guys.
It would be a great one to watch.
Make it happen!
I'll pick Mayorga. Vargas isn't exactly in the business of getting away from big looping punches. The right hands that Shane hit him with
The most humiliating & debilitating loss has come at the hands of Oscar...not Spinks & not Tito.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
All that shit he talked...all that stupidity at the weigh ins & at the pressers...& Oscar just totally outboxed him & beat him down.
Tito was given every oportunity. Mayorga stood there & let Tito hit him...Oscar never gave Mayorga the chance to even hang his chin out. He just punished him.
Spinks...sure he outboxed him...but that was also clearly the fault of Mayorga's stupidity again...couple with his clown ass antics.
As far as Vargas vs Mayorga...yep...I'd watch it...because honestly...their both idiots & I'd be curious to see who out idioted the other first.
Surely it'd be Mayorga. ;D
I would LOVE to see the press conferences between those two.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
The fight would have to take place at 160, neither of them can LEGALLY make weight for 154.
I'd side with Vargas though a mental edge would go to Mayorga...he's more like Duran in that he doesn't give a fuck, Vargas seems to get too emotional, maybe it's the roids
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I hope they do not fight. If they do, someone does not care about Vargas. He is a good fighter but he takes clean punches. I hope he retires. Heck of a heart and he works hard.
I've seen this thread a few times before and posted in it every damn time. So here I go again. Mayorga by of early KO. I like both guys, but Vargas is shot, and didn't even come to win his last fight, just to pick up a pay check. They are both tough guys, but Mayorga seems to be more genuine in his rage, and hate. Vargas will talk shat, then dance around you, clinch, and try to out box you. Mayorga will talk shit, then come after you tryin to rip your head off, cept for that last fight with Oscar where he just got his ass kicked by a faget. Its a damn shame they both had to lose to such a phoney bitch like Oscar, but Oscar is a great fighter. Anyhow, at this stage ya gotta go with Mayorga by knockout, Vargas is too slow, and has lost his desire to fight. I hope Mayorga comes back someday, maybe against Vargas, but Vargas doesn't need anymore pay days IMO.
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
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Totally agree,never been massively sold on Vargas the whole bad boy image seemed so fake where with Mayorga,like him or not,he's wild and a true bad ass!CC Hulk bro!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
CC back. And you know Cotto is gonna whip Quintana's ass. There is a BIG differnce between beating Puerto Rican Joel Julio and beating Puerto Rican Miguel Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
I thought Julio was Columbian? ??? :D Anyhow,yep,I hope you are right my man but remember,those in the know predicted that Quintana would be a dangerman at 147 ad he is proving them correct. He has an awkward style,more awkward than Collazo,in that he can box,but he doesn't run,he sits down on his shots and is quite slick with good power. It will certainly be a challenge and I commend Cotto ALOT for taking this fight as his first at 147. He is signalling his intentions,he wants to fight the best especially as I didn't see anyone else willing to fight Quintana.
My bad, maybe Julio is Columbian. It's true that a lot of Columbians build up huge KO records then come to the states and lose, like Lampley was sayin tonight. Just look at that poor bastard Jaime Rangel. Who isn't too bad of fighter actaully, but just can't seem to get a decent win over here. Anyway, don't doubt Cotto, you must have faith. Screw Quintana, he's a herky jerky, all over the place little shit. Cotto has been fighting very good competition, much better than Quintana has, and will beat Quintana, he has to.
I think it would be an entertaining fight.
I think Julio was just overrated and that Quintana took advantage of him before any elite could :dontknow:
Wiggins was well on his way to spoiling for Jeff Lacy, but Jeff had power on his side.
i remember a time when mayorga was at 147 and looked like he could go 30rds and seem to have a chin made of steel
So do I... :'(Quote:
Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
But Don King, fraudlent judges, Cory Spinks, all conspired to screw El matador, and force him out of the welterweight division, and become a fall guy for Tito Trinidad, King's main cash cow at the time, and later ODLH sadly. Its a damn shame. Mayorga was a beast at 147. I wish he could train his ass off and get back down there, he could easily win a title right now, against Kermit Cintron. He'd blast Cintron out quickly, but it'd be a thriller while it lasted.
Oh yeah, Oscar did eat Tito's leftovers again.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Mayorga forced himself out of the Welterweight division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
He was supposed to fight Rivera and I know he would have won but he came in overweight :'(
Yes, but that was AFTER the Spinks debacle. AFTER they STOLE his titles from him. And I think Rivera may have given Mayorga some trouble, but yeah he would have beaten Rivera.Quote:
Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
I've said before and I'll say it again Vargas was thrown in with the BIG boys too soon, Winky, Ike and he had no reason to be in there with Tito with only 20 fights his people should have took better care of him probably one of the shortest careers that I know of I mean hes 28 and done in boxing...Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Thats why I like when they bring fighters along accordingly....
As for Mayorga vs. Vargas, for Vargas sake it should never happen. TKO for Mayorga
If Vargas had rightfully lost to Wright he may not have had his career halted by Tito :(
well said mick cc in 24Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Great point. CCQuote:
Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by Hulk
hulk i like mayaorga too but spinks clearly beat Mayorga that night. i don't even know how the one judges had it so close.
I think you are out of your mind. No way Spinks won that fight, its insane to suggest he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
I think Mayorga is as done as Vargas, who do you think wins prime vs. prime?Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I think Mayorga still has some left in the tank, enough to beat guys like Cintron or Alejandro Garcia, or Collazo. In thier primes, Vargas possibly would have had the edge. He is naturally bigger, and there is no question he did better against both Tito and Oscar. It would have been a great fight. Now though I feel Vargas has lost his desire, and is pretty much shot, Mayorga would KO him and Forrest without too much trouble these days if they fought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
neither guys is that good. They are both guys who lose to the top tier guys. What is the point of this fight?
its a good even type match,, should be entertaining. Its all about Match making.. like Gatti -vs- Ward.. neither guy was outstanding technically yet the were at the same level... makes for a great fight. ! O0