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Every title fight nowadays is a 12 rounder and i think thats bs. If marciano-walcott 1 was only 12 rounds, the world would never have witnessed the single greatest punch ever thrown by a boxer. I feel it should be 4-6 rounds for people just starting out, 10 rounds when you're more experienced and have "better" opposition, 12 rounds for title eliminators and then 15 rounds for the championship fights.
i think 15 rounds were stopped because more likely to get badly damaged remember mancini fight ?? i think they were starting to stop it after that fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Punisher136
also D.K. KIM rip!!!!! :'(
Didn't Marvin Hagler fight the very last scheduled 15-rounder? I recall a lot of angst when Leonard outpointed him (allegedly!!) as Hagler would likely have stopped him over 15 (of course Leonard paced himself excellently for the 12 rounds, not 15, but there were some arguments I think)
I know that Joe Louis fought the very last scheduled 20 rounder, though he whacked out Buddy Baer much sooner than that.
x was larry holmes vs michael spinks the last 15 rounder at heavyweight ??
I think it was Holmes v Randall 'Tex' Cobb, in 1982 ???
Yeah - thought so (this is from his wife's blog, apparently on http://sharoncobb.blogspot.com/2005/...-round_26.html) 8)
November 26, 1982 was the last 15 round Heavyweight Championship title fight. It was held at the Astrodome in Houston, Texas. The fight, between champion Larry Holmes and challenger Randall "Tex" Cobb was a mismatch from the beginning. While Cobb had fought Shavers, Dokes, Norton and other top ten fighters to reach this deserved shot at the title, he had no amateur career, and by the time he fought for the title, he had less than 80 ROUNDS of experience. That's right. Not 80 fights, but 80 rounds. Tex lost 15 out of 15 rounds, but was never knocked down during the fight. I wasn't a boxing fan at the time, but since I was in love with one of the fighters, I thought I should watch the match.
Boxing fans know Howard Cosell quit calling boxing because of this "brutal" fight, but what the fans didn't get to hear is Cosell riding in the elevator complaining about being away from his wife over the Thanksgiving Day holiday. Without missing a beat, Tex turned around and said to Cosell, "Yeah. Your wife phoned and thanked me."
In fairness to Cosell, the fight did appear to be unusually brutal, even for boxing. Tex was getting smashed left and right and was bloodied. It looked a lot worse than it was. Tex's first words after this fight were, "Let's party!" Even though it was the biggest lost in the history of championship fights, he considered it a win to have gone 15 rounds with Larry Holmes in his prime for the title.
The next morning, Larry Holmes came in the room and asked Tex to cut up his "eggies" for him because he thought he had broken his hands on Tex's head. Tex replied, "I can't help you Larry. I have to sip my eggies with a straw!"
Johnny Carson liked Tex's sense of humor, and invited Tex on the show. Tex would appear 8 times on the Carson show in subsequent years. On his first appearance, the producers of the film "Uncommon Valor" saw Tex on Carson, and wanted him immediately for the role of Sailor in their film. Tex went on to make many films, but is best remembered for his role in Raising Arizona as the evil biker/bounty hunter--the "Warthog from hell."
The smartest move he made, however, was marrying me. The stupidest move he ever made was leaving me for this chick named Janet who had purple hair with blue eyeshadow who played bass in her husband's band. I always hear from people how she totally runs and controls his life...a long way from the cowboy I met who stood up to Larry Holmes for 45 minutes without taking a step backwards. That's the Tex I try to remember. Happy anniversary baby. That day, you did good.
Posted by Sharon Cobb on Saturday, November 26, 2005 at 4:29 AM
when Tyson fought Tony Tucker in 1987, there was some fuss made over the fact that it was scheduled for 15 rounds, but Tuckers people demanded it be dropped to 12 rounds, which it was, only days before the fight. (Just watched the fight on my Mike Tyson career set)
Thats definetly not true. Both Spinks vs Holmes fights, and numerous other alphabet heavyweight title fights were 15 rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
I'm only quoting what I read - though I am pretty sure it was sometime around then that they stopped?
You might be right though, because you piqued my interest and I found this "Not since the rematch between Larry Holmes and Michael Spinks in April of 1986 has a heavyweight title fight gone or been scheduled for 15 rounds. "
Does anyone definitively know the answer?
Yes the answer is that the WBC started mandating 12 round title fights in 1983. The WBA and IBF still mandated 15 rounders until around 1987 when Tyson started unifying the heavyweight titles. Holmes fought a couple of 12 round WBC title fights in 1983 before ditching that title in a dispute over challenger Greg Page. Holmes then assumed the IBF title and fought 15 rounders again in 1984 and 85 (stopping James Smith in 12 in 1984, decisioning Carl Williams in 15 in 1985, and then losing to Spinks in 1985 and 86 in 15 round fights.) Look up Holmes record at Boxrec and you'll this.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
Jody
soon as mancini fight was ova and the opponent died 4 days later the wbc changed, then later the other belts followed, tyson fought the last heavy 15 rounder i think?
You visit a boxing forum and most of the time you read garbage and jokes. hehehQuote:
Originally Posted by X
But now and then you come across a intelligent perspective or a great read.
That was a great little read, Thanks X :coolclick:
Boxing matches used to go on for hours until somebody dropped. Thats why the 15 round rule was put in place after things got organized. So they only reduced it from 15 to 12 because they thought it would be better for the fighter? So instead of fighting 4 fights all the way thru to get 60 rounds of punishment you now have to fight 5 fights all the way. If the cobb/holmes fight was that onesided they should've stopped it thats what referee's are there for. Maybe one day some research will come around that says "Hey it doesn't matter how long the rounds are because some people die before they even have an amateur fight from blunt force trauma in sparring and Others can fight 70 some fights including some 15 rounders and walk away without any longer term issues." Next thing you know they'll reduce it to 10 rounds and require amatuer headgear for protection. It all comes down to the number one rule "Protect yourself at all times".
MIKE TYSON FOUGHT THE LAST HW 15 ROUND BOUT...1987..VS TYRELL BIGGS
That was scheduled for 12 stavros
NO IT WAS SCHEDULED FOR 15 ,I DONT KNOW HOW TO POST THE FIGHT ON HERE BUT GO AND WATCH IT ....MICHAEL BUFFER SAYS..(LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE 15 ROUNDS FOR THE UNDISPUTED HEAVEY WEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP OF THE WORLD)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO AND WATCH IT AND THEN U CAN LICK MY HAIRY BALLS AND EAT SHITQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Jorge "Maromero" Paez -- 08/04/1988 125¾ vs. Calvin Grove 125½
Plaza de Toros Calafia, Mexicali, BCN, Mexico W Majority Decision 15 Rounds 15
So which was the last 15 rounder?
Any chance they'll bring the 15 rounders back?
SEE IF THIS WORKS ,IM LEARNING http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb4UYj7G2J4
Did I offend you or are you just on your period?Quote:
Originally Posted by stavros693000
DIDNT WORK..FUK I DONT KNOW!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb4UYj7G2J4
IM ON MY PERIOD LYLE ,VERY HEAVY FLOW!
...ok fine, it was 15 rounds
...ok fine?..how about im so sorry stavros for u are supremly knowledable! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
boxrec.com says it was a 12 round fight:
http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=474
i know ,its wrong,fuk i wish i knew how to post the fight on here to show u all...just go and watch it,its here on saddo under mike tyson videosQuote:
Originally Posted by lance Uppercut
supremely???......knowledgeable???Quote:
Originally Posted by stavros693000
Uh yeah, nah I don't think I'll be posting that
I believe it was 12 ;D
No... There were to many injuries... I hear ya, though... 12-15 were the real championship roundsQuote:
Originally Posted by Punisher136
.....fighters are in sad enough shape as it is
No truer words have ever been spoken... YOU HEAR ME HOLYFIELD... YOU HEAR ME HEARNS!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
STOP FIGHTING... YOU HAVE NOTHING TO PROVE!!!! :'(
Who says they have anything to prove, it's what they believe they can still do. Just like any other fighter, it's what they've done all their lives and it's what they love to do. If their physically able let them fight without someone telling them they dont have anything to prove, their not telling you to get off of your ass and stop jerking off in front of the computer do they. Yes they lisp when they talk but jerking off makes you go blind, if you don't believe me ask your momma. Pretty soon you'll need brail for your keyboard, to bad you won't be able read the responses though. ;D :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF BOSTON"
I just love the way people act like their concerned with a fighters well being and health and yet sit in front of a tv hoping for blood and a brutal knockout, and a fighter with a defense first strategy gets ripped all the time like Winky or Floyd, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't care if their 60 yrs old, if their capable and want to fight then let em fight. So for you and Lyle who says their in sad shape now, I would bet your like the rest of us, otherwise you wouldn't be on a boxing forum. Both of you guys would be on a medical forum or an abolish boxing forum so you can protect these guys from themselves.
And Pride don't take the shit above personal either, not unless your really going blind. 8) Just f**cking around
....yes but this is a professional sport Chief....it doesn't matter if you're fighting for 2 dollars or 2 million dollars you can't spend it if you get hurt and there are guys out there that are more likely to get hurt than others.
You go look after Gerald McClellan if you're so into the blood and guts of it.
The human brain is a resiliant thing but there is a point of no return
As for "sad shape" I meant they don't get in good enough shape to fight 10-12 rounds much less 15
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SEE IF THIS WORKS ,IM LEARNING[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb4UYj7G2J4[/youtube]
You don't put in the whole url just the part after the equal signQuote:
Originally Posted by stavros693000
huh, it was 15 :-X my bad
the WBC was the first organization to shorten title fights to 12 rnds after the Mancini/Kim fight
Stopped after Mancini-Kim when studies showed tha fighters were m0re vulnearble after 12.
They are more vulnerable after 6... But whatever