Pac-Morales III, over 1 million ppv already sold! more than previous 2 fights!!!

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

(Geeze, that was long! I almost gave up on it.)

INCREDIBLE! THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT IT. :o :o :o ::** ::** ::**

(If anyone can post the whole text of this article, please do so, I haven't figured out how to do that.)

By GREG BEACHAM, AP Sports Writer
November 17, 2006

AP - Nov 17, 6:06 pm EST
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LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Manny Pacquiao and Erik Morales are ready for the third round, and both fighters believe it will be the best one yet.

Just observe the grin on Pacquiao's face as he stepped on the scale with hundreds of Filipino fans cheering his name Friday -- or watch Morales' swell of pride as he hears Mexican fans chanting his name at the same weigh-in. Two of the world's most entertaining fighters both believe they're about to make history Saturday night.

After splitting two thrilling matches in the previous 20 months, the junior lightweights will complete one of boxing's better trilogies in recent years in front of a sellout Las Vegas crowd and a pay-per-view audience stretching from Manila to Mexico City, with more than 1 million purchases already.

Pacquiao's reputation and Morales' career probably hang on the outcome of a much-anticipated return to the ring for two classic brawlers who inspire worship in their native lands -- and in southern Nevada, where their 130-pound matchup is the toughest ticket in town.

There's little bad blood in "The Grand Finale," as it's being billed, but Pacquiao (42-3-2, 32 KOs) is confident he can keep his meteoric career on the rise with a second straight victory over Morales (48-4, 34 KOs), the famed slugger whose first trilogy, with Marco Antonio Barrera, already has a place in boxing history.

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"I'm not going to promise I'm going to knock him out, but I'm doing my best to make people happy," said Pacquiao, who sparred 150 rounds during training. "I'm very confident to win this fight, but I know Morales is still a good fighter."

Morales won the fighters' first bout with an unanimous decision in March 2005, surprising Pacquiao with his tenacity and pride. Pacquiao, who fought valiantly through a bloodied face in the final rounds, blamed his only loss since 1999 on distractions from his management, his personal life -- even his gloves.

And just as Pacquiao has done repeatedly in the career that has made him a demigod in the Philippines, he rebounded with a vengeance. In the rematch 10 months ago in Las Vegas, Pacquiao remedied his mistakes and battered Morales with waves of punches, bruising his face and body before dropping him twice in the 10th round for the first TKO loss of Morales' career.

This time, Morales went back to work with his father, Jose, back in his corner after being absent for the second fight. Pacquiao won another fight in the Philippines and continued his dalliances with singing, endorsements and acting.

With three losses in his last four fights, the 30-year-old "El Terrible" could be on the downside of his career if he can't put a scare into Pacquiao. Morales expects much more, however.

"I'm going to win, and I have two motivations," Morales said. "One is for the fans who want me to win. And two, for the guys who don't want me to win. They make me work harder."

Both fighters weighed in at exactly 129 pounds Friday at the Thomas and Mack Center, where hundreds of enthused fans alternated chants of "Mexico!" and "Manny!" while waving flags and banners.

Pacquiao and Morales posed amiably for pictures on the dais with none of the often-staged animosity of such events. The fighters clearly respect each other, and both appeared to be in fantastic shape for their second rematch -- particularly Morales, who thought he had been insulted when Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach reportedly wondered whether he could get under 130 after weighing in at 142 just 30 days earlier.

"Three months ago, a lot of people did not believe that I'd make the weight, but here I am," Morales said. "Freddie Roach should start worrying about his fighters instead of me."

Bobby Pacquiao, Manny's brother who's also trained by Roach, didn't make weight for his super featherweight fight against Hector Velazquez on Thursday night, then lost his WBC title when he was disqualified for low blows.

But this fight has proved to be just as irresistible to true boxing fans as its promoters hoped. Bob Arum said more than 1 million pay-per-view buys were made by Thursday -- more than in either of the first two fights -- and a sellout is expected, leading to closed-circuit broadcasts elsewhere in Las Vegas.

Pacquiao is guaranteed $3 million, while Morales will make at least $2.75 million -- but both fighters say they're in it for history, not money.

"The third fight will be remembered forever," Arum said. "I am confident in saying it will be one of the great, great fights in boxing history."

Geeze, as incredible as the article, that was real fast! CC for you, ICECOLDBOXING.

Move over Oscar, looks like pac and el terrible might out do your upcoming match with Floyd.

All I can say is, I hope Manny and Erik are getting a piece of the PPV revenues. :-\

Is that 1million buys?!?!!?!?! You're fricking joking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hey,they deserve it,they are 2 great warriors,real fighters and like I have said,this is one of the few PPV'S that warrants shelling out the $$$. These 2 won't be pussyfooting around,this won't be a mismatch,it'll be a great fight. CC for the news Pacfan!

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thanks bro cc back

This is a record breaking response for a thread in just a matter of minutes, CC to El Gamo and the rest of the guyz.

Yo0u gave me my 1,100th CC bro!!!! THANKS! 1million buys! Is that real?!!

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Yo0u gave me my 1,100th CC bro!!!! THANKS! 1million buys! Is that real?!!

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bloody hell el gamo u gotta alot of ccs didnt realize u had that many

Ya, I need a confirmation on this, it's just too incredible. 1100th, that must be one of your lucky numbers huh? At last, I caught you here in a long while. ;)

That HAS to be a mistake. It's Oscar, and only Oscar numbers.

The previous two fights both had around 350,000 buys.

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That HAS to be a mistake. It's Oscar, and only Oscar numbers.

The previous two fights both had around 350,000 buys.

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That's what I thought too. Maybe we should wait for verification from a more reliable source or at least until after the fight? I didn't think figures were ever released until then!

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Ya, I need a confirmation on this, it's just too incredible. 1100th, that must be one of your lucky numbers huh? At last, I caught you here in a long while. ;)

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Yeah bro,I can't believe it either and I have been here about a year!!! How are you my man?? Any last minute nerves/changes in prediction?? I think Morales wins,I REALLLLLLLLLLY believe now!

Ya, I'm beginning to lean more and more on a big draw ;D, you're in trouble, brod, but don't despair, I'll be there right beside you.

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That HAS to be a mistake. It's Oscar, and only Oscar numbers.

The previous two fights both had around 350,000 buys.

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it's probably legit...im guessing at least 3/4 of those buys are from mexico and philippines. It's cheaper to get ppv there than in the US though, so just cause it sold huge numbers doesnt mean its going to make tons more $.

Nice.
This ones for the ages..... 8)

Ok folks, I think we outta wait for confirmation on this from more sources as they come. In the meantime, here's another article that rates the ppv value of this fight, though I don't know if it makes any sense (again, if anyone can post the whole article, please do so):

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/hudgin...ins_111806.htm

According to their criteria, this fight has the best ppv value so far this year. If this rating makes any sense, maybe the million buys is true, or maybe not.

Watchdog: Pacquiao vs Morales III
WATCHDOG By Steve Hudgins (Nov 18, 2006)
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The purpose of Watchdog, I don't think any one fight can be made in boxing today that alone is worth the price of a PPV. Unless of course, they can conjure up Dempsey vs Marciano or Joe Louis, but until that day comes, I want some quantity to go along with quality!

I say, if they want us to shell out 30, 40 sometimes 50 bucks per PPV, they should give us some bang for our buck! The card should be solid from top to bottom! Or at least it should be so top heavy with excellent fights that they can get away with a showcase fight to kick off the festivities, but these 2 or 3 showcase fights and 1 decent to mega main event PPV's are for the birds! (My apologies to any of the birds I may have offended with that statement.)

SO HERE'S MY SYSTEM:

I preview and rate every fight that is scheduled to be televised on a PPV Boxing Card, and try to determine whether that card is worth purchasing or not based on my point system below.

Please note that at the end of each preview, I will mention what weight class the bout is being fought at and where each fighter ranks within that weight class. This is done by using ‘The Ring’ ratings.

HERE'S HOW STEVE'S PPV CRITERIA WORKS!

POINTS:

6 = MEGA MATCHUP
5 = Excellent Matchup
4 = Good Matchup
3 = Decent Matchup
2 = OK Matchup
1 = Bad Matchup

If a fight is scheduled to be televised on the card, it gets at least 1 point. This helps to reward quantity.

POINT SYSTEM:

14 or higher = GET IT!
13 = If you can find someone to split it with you or the price of the PPV is 24.99 or less, GET IT!
12 = If you can find someone to split it with you or the price of the PPV is 19.99 or less CONSIDER getting it.
11 = If you can find a place that is showing it, or get enough people over to split it with you, so that you are not paying more than 10 dollars for the card, CONSIDER getting it.
10 or under = Save your money and sleep well at night knowing you didn't get ripped off!

AND AWAY WE GO!

November 18th - PPV PRICE: $44.95

MANNY PACQUIAO 42-3-2 (33) vs ERIC MORALES 48-4 (34)

This is the best fight that can be made in all of boxing today! Simple as that! No other matchup that can be made today can come this close to guaranteeing an entertaining all-action bout! If you saw the 1st two fights you know what you'll be getting here. An exciting, close, back and forth brawl between two of boxing’s real warriors. It simply doesn't get much better than this. Both have big power, great chins and a heart that makes them refuse to give anything less than everything they've got. This is the kind of fight boxing fans dream of. The only surprise here would be if this fight is not an absolute blast!

*Manny Pacquiao is rated # 1 at Jr Lightweight (130 lbs) - Erik Morales is rated # 3 at Jr Lightweight (130 lbs)*

SCORE = 6

RICARDO TORRES 29-1 (27) vs MIKE ARNAOUTIS 17-0-2 (9)

This in an excellent matchup between two up and comers, on the verge of cracking the top 10 in the talented junior welterweight division. The funny thing is that both of these guys' claim to fame, are non-victories in fights they took on short notice. Torres was a late replacement against Miguel Cotto and had him one punch from being gone on seemingly countless occasions. Arum hasn't put Cotto in with a puncher since! ‘Mighty Mike’ took a fight with young up and coming Juan Urango on short notice and gutted out an entertaining draw. Torres is a bomber with huge power, who will come out of the gate, swinging for the fences, whereas Arnaoutis is more of a tough counter puncher. Arnaoutis doesn't have a big punch, but he has enough power to usually keep opponents honest. If the main event were anything other than Pacquiao vs Morales, I would say this fight would steal the show. It should be a barnburner while it lasts.

*This bout is being fought at Jr Welterweight (140 lbs) - Neither fighter is rated*

SCORE = 5

BRIAN VILORIA 19-1 (12) vs OMAR NINO 24-2-1 (10)

This is an interesting ‘quick’ rematch. These two met up back in August, in a bout that was basically supposed to be a showcase fight for Viloria. But someone forgot to tell Viloria that in order to win a fight, you have to throw punches. Against Nino, Viloria did his best David Tua impression, throwing what seemed like about three punches per round, while Nino simply picked him apart for a rather easy decision victory. If Viloria gives a repeat performance, the result will be exactly the same and he may as well take his gloves off, leave them in the ring, and find himself a new career because nobody wants to see a fighter like that. However, if he wakes up and fights, this can be pretty good. At his best, Viloria is an aggressive boxer-puncher with big power and if he can consistently press the action and let his hands go against the crafty veteran Nino, we might actually get a fairly entertaining bout here.

*Brian Viloria is rated # 6 at Jr Flyweight (108 lbs) - Omar Nino is rated # 5 at Jr Flyweight (108 lbs)*

SCORE = 3

JUAN SALGADO 15-0-1 (12) vs MARCOS LICONA 24-8-1 (9)

This is basically a showcase bout for Salgado, but Licona is by far the most experienced fighter he's ever faced. Licona has been in there with Carlos Navarro, Angel Vazquez, Oscar Larios, Juan Manuel Marquez and Hector Velazquez. And while he did, in fact, lose every single one of those fights, the only one who stopped him was Marquez. If Salgado can get a stoppage here, it would be impressive. More likely it will be a one-sided 8 round decision victory.

*This fight is taking place at Jr Lightweight (130 lbs) - Neither fighter is rated*

SCORE = 1

FINAL SCORE = 15

SUMMARY: From top to bottom, this appears to be the best PPV of the year. Nowadays, it's rare to actually have a MEGA matchup as the main event! But they didn’t stop there, by deciding to give us more bang for our buck with two solid undercard bouts. A better 4th fight to kick off the festivities would have been nice, but I won't complain much since the rest of the card is so solid. If you are a boxing fan, you're getting this card. This is the type of card where you can bring over your non-boxing friends and they'll probably be boxing fans by the time the night is over. It should be a lot fun!

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/hudgin...ins_111806.htm

Though I don't agree with his last statement, I think the MAB vs. Juarez II is the best card of the year....

Thanx very mucho Cutmemick for the posting of the link, that's another CC for you, courtesy of the pinoy pacfan. ;)

No worries.....
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That HAS to be a mistake. It's Oscar, and only Oscar numbers.

The previous two fights both had around 350,000 buys.

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it's probably legit...im guessing at least 3/4 of those buys are from mexico and philippines. It's cheaper to get ppv there than in the US though, so just cause it sold huge numbers doesnt mean its going to make tons more $.

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Yeah thats more like it (i didn't read the article ::**)

Although apart from it being shit loads, I haven't got a clue what type of viewing figures these guys get outside of the US anyway :-\

Regardless of where the buys are coming from, In the end the real winners are us the boxing fans cause it shines some light on our sport that otherwise wouldn't have gotten if these 2 warriors wouldnt have step foot in that ring a 3rd time.... :)

I've never heard of a PPV here so I'm not sure about that. Maybe some other pinoys can answer that.

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I've never heard of a PPV here so I'm not sure about that. Maybe some other pinoys can answer that.

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LOL,I was talking to pinay in uni the other day,and we were talking about Pacman and she mentioned not everyone gets to see him back home because it's PPV?

aND LAUGH MY ASS OFF AT iCE AND pACFAN. Yep,those are my cc's than to you guys!! Keep the, coming! Shucks,thanks pacfan bro but I'm soooooooooo confident it won't be a draw,I just do not see it and after watching their first 2 fights,I honestly don't think I'll lose the deal with GAME! Pacfan bro,you didn't answer,are you leaving if Manny loses? Don't bro! I'll make more Manny threads for you so you can post! Manny will probably come back if he loses anyway.

Actually, they're being shown here free with some commercials.

I've thought about that but then with all the braggings I've done in behalf of my boy, I was wondering how I can come back if he loses without bowing my head down :-[. As I've said to Wacko, maybe if you see a 'new' guy with a name 'koolklicker, it might as well be the ol' Pacfan himself in disguise 8) - who else can think of such a stupid name! ;D

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Actually, they're being shown here free with some commercials.

I've thought about that but then with all the braggings I've done in behalf of my boy, I was wondering how I can come back if he loses without bowing my head down :-[. As I've said to Wacko, maybe if you see a 'new' guy with a name 'koolklicker, it might as well be the ol' Pacfan himself in disguise 8) - who else can think of such a stupid name! ;D

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You win some, you loose some.... You gotta take the good with the bad..... No need for name changes or what not.... If he wins then praise him and I will applaud him, If he loses then do the same praise and I will do the same and applaud him....

But don't leave on a loss, stick around and take the heat it will be over in a week or so... I took heat for the Tszyu loss, Lacy loss and Eriks loss to Zahir.... Shet!! happens and you look forward.... :)

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Actually, they're being shown here free with some commercials.

I've thought about that but then with all the braggings I've done in behalf of my boy, I was wondering how I can come back if he loses without bowing my head down :-[. As I've said to Wacko, maybe if you see a 'new' guy with a name 'koolklicker, it might as well be the ol' Pacfan himself in disguise 8) - who else can think of such a stupid name! ;D

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You win some, you loose some.... You gotta take the good with the bad..... No need for name changes or what not.... If he wins then praise him and I will applaud him, If he loses then do the same praise and I will do the same and applaud him....

But don't leave on a loss, stick around and take the heat it will be over in a week or so... I took heat for the Tszyu loss, Lacy loss and Eriks loss to Zahir.... Shet!! happens and you look forward.... :)

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Thanx pal, you almost convinced me there. ;) I guess I'll have to think it over very hard, I'm starting to like this place and it's becoming more and more difficulty for me to leave. :'(

Bro you're not leaving!!! Heck,if Morales,Cotto,and Margarito all lose,I'm not leaving!! :laugh: ^-^

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Actually, they're being shown here free with some commercials.

I've thought about that but then with all the braggings I've done in behalf of my boy, I was wondering how I can come back if he loses without bowing my head down :-[. As I've said to Wacko, maybe if you see a 'new' guy with a name 'koolklicker, it might as well be the ol' Pacfan himself in disguise 8) - who else can think of such a stupid name! ;D

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You win some, you loose some.... You gotta take the good with the bad..... No need for name changes or what not.... If he wins then praise him and I will applaud him, If he loses then do the same praise and I will do the same and applaud him....

But don't leave on a loss, stick around and take the heat it will be over in a week or so... I took heat for the Tszyu loss, Lacy loss and Eriks loss to Zahir.... Shet!! happens and you look forward.... :)

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Thanx pal, you almost convinced me there. ;) I guess I'll have to think it over very hard, I'm starting to like this place and it's becoming more and more difficulty for me to leave. :'(

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Glad to see your still here..... :)

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Bro you're not leaving!!! Heck,if Morales,Cotto,and Margarito all lose,I'm not leaving!! :laugh: ^-^

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Lets just hope that won't happen.... :-\

Thanx again 'Mick. I don't want to be very overjoyed but I'm grateful to my boy for saving my 'life' here at the Saddo. Well, it means we'll be seeing you guys again and I'll have to admit that I'm pretty glad too. Bye the way, that letter of yours for Erik and Pac was very touching, it had my eyes a bit misty.

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Thanx again 'Mick. I don't want to be very overjoyed but I'm grateful to my boy for saving my 'life' here at the Saddo. Well, it means we'll be seeing you guys again and I'll have to admit that I'm pretty glad too. Bye the way, that letter of yours for Erik and Pac was very touching, it had my eyes a bit misty.

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pacfan, you be how you wanna be.... Your fav. fighter just won and has moved up the latter into becoming an ATG.... You should be happy hes accomplished much and doesn't look like anyone will be stoping him soon. Really the skys the limit for him.....

Ya I've always maintained that Erik was still the toughest customer for Pac and if he beat El Terrible again, he'd be unbeatable for a long while - I just don't see anybody among the present fighters at 130 who can be Pac. That's why I had been eagerly and somewhat anxiously waiting for this fight. So at the moment hardly anyone excites me and as boxing fan, I'm kinda just shakin' my head in dissappointment. I can't imagine Pac without an exciting opponent who can make us Pac-fans' heart pound in anticipation. (Now I'm almost regretting this fight has just reached it's climactic conclusion!! tsk, tsk, tsk! what will we be looking forward to?) The only one whom I fancy a bit is Valero who's still a big mystery for me - the monstrous KO king but whom many are starting to say lacks a bit of experience, and refinement in his boxing skills.

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I can't imagine Pac without an exciting opponent who can make us Pac-fans' heart pound in anticipation. (Now I'm almost regretting this fight has just reached it's climactic conclusion!! tsk, tsk, tsk! what will we be looking forward to?)

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So true.... Who can PAC fight that would bring it like Erik?

Give him 1 year,becuse he's toooooooooo green right now but Valero will give Pac a great fight. V Nom would a natural and actually big 130 pounder and he would be the biggest hardest hitter Pac has fought. It would be stupid of Valero to fight Pac now,after 20 pro fights,10 1 rounders BUT,watch his sparring with Morales,the Cruz brothers and Urbano Antillion and tell me he does not look amazing. I'm going to upload those and watch how he schools and hurts MORALES in sparring. He is COMPLETELY different from when he fights.