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Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
Now Pac has beaten the over the hill Morales again i think it's time these two get it on, Pac should stop running from Joan and face the man i consider 2nd to Floyd in terms of technical ability and speed, What a fight it would be, There's no excuses now it has to happen ;D ,
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Who is Guzman?
well, what can I say after the fight? Satisfied....
Hoping another showdown. This time I hope Barrera will give the PACMAN (the real champ in the superfeatherweight division) the right to get the crown formally through the ring.
Barrera should not be a coward this time by fighting the Pacman. Cowardice is not an option now to get the respect of the boxing world.
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Originally Posted by rrbong
Who is Guzman?
well, what can I say after the fight? Satisfied....
Hoping another showdown. This time I hope Barrera will give the PACMAN (the real champ in the superfeatherweight division) the right to get the crown formally through the ring.
Barrera should not be a coward this time by fighting the Pacman. Cowardice is not an option now to get the respect of the boxing world.
Stop acting idle son, You know full well who the boy Guzman is, He's the man pac has been ducking for days!! ;D, Now they're both at 130 it's time Pac faces his worst nightmare if he's to be considered a genuine p4p!!, Whats the damn point facing another over the hill fighter in Barrera?, A man Pac already beat badly!!, It won't prove shit, He needs to step into the ring with the real deal, JOAN GUZMAN!!,
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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
Now Pac has beaten the over the hill Morales again i think it's time these two get it on, Pac should stop running from Joan and face the man i consider 2nd to Floyd in terms of technical ability and speed, What a fight it would be, There's no excuses now it has to happen ;D ,
what a retarded post! guzman has to face valero or juarez first before he can have the right to face pac...pac running? lol,he wont be in the top p4p if he avoids the best fighter...guzman vs edwin is the best fight.pac should face either barrera or marquez.
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I don't want to see Guzman fight Juarez, Rocky is too mentally weak for a fighter like Guzman and he'd just be beaten.
valero is too green and his chin isn't all that good.
If Guzman wants to fight before he moves up in weight again Pacquiao would be a good one.
I'm sure Pacquiao would have some trouble with him, Guzman isn't going to stand and trade with Pacman.
I think what it comes down to is, can Guzman take what Pacquiao can dish out. If he can then Pacquiao is in for a tough fight.
Want to see Pacquiao vs. Barrios one day!!! ;D
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Pacquiao would KTFO Guzman. Guzman is skilled,but he doesn't have the power to fend off Pac nad doens't have the movement to outbox him. Just because Guzman beat Barrios doesn't mean anything.And JMM is as skilled if not more so than Guzman and Pac did ok against him.Even if Guzman can take his best,Manny seems to be at that stage where nothing can distract him,he'll just keep banging away and with all these new moves he has learnt(counters etc etc) he is getting better each time he steps into the ring. What proof is there that Pac is dodgin Guzman when he fights Morales,MAB,JMM etc etc. You can also see Manny studies tapes HARD,going to Erik's body,countering him when he was off balance,I'm sure Roach would find flaws in Joan too.
I do belive Valero is too green and would get KTFO at this point in time but give him a year or 2.As for Barrios,it would be exciting but does Barrios have the power to hurt Manny? Manny's shorter more accurate punches would make it difficult for Barrios.
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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
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Originally Posted by rrbong
Who is Guzman?
well, what can I say after the fight? Satisfied....
Hoping another showdown. This time I hope Barrera will give the PACMAN (the real champ in the superfeatherweight division) the right to get the crown formally through the ring.
Barrera should not be a coward this time by fighting the Pacman. Cowardice is not an option now to get the respect of the boxing world.
Stop acting idle son, You know full well who the boy Guzman is, He's the man pac has been ducking for days!! ;D, Now they're both at 130 it's time Pac faces his worst nightmare if he's to be considered a genuine p4p!!, Whats the damn point facing another over the hill fighter in Barrera?, A man Pac already beat badly!!, It won't prove S***, He needs to step into the ring with the real deal, JOAN GUZMAN!!,
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It's you who's sleeping dude!!! I never heard Pacquiao being afraid of somebody. He wants to fight and he does not care about who he is fighting. Wake up, dude!!!!
You're trying to insinuate that Pacman is afraid of Guzman.... I suggest you give Pacman the respect... He deserve it. Anyway, he's the one that made Barrera and Morales think about retiring after the most dreadful beating of their lives.
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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
Now Pac has beaten the over the hill Morales again i think it's time these two get it on, Pac should stop running from Joan and face the man i consider 2nd to Floyd in terms of technical ability and speed, What a fight it would be, There's no excuses now it has to happen ;D ,
what a retarded post! guzman has to face valero or juarez first before he can have the right to face pac...pac running? lol,he wont be in the top p4p if he avoids the best fighter...guzman vs edwin is the best fight.pac should face either barrera or marquez.
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Damn that's straight dumb right there!!, Manny ran up to 130 to avoid Joan everyone knows that, Pac just doesn't want to face up to Joan's speed, Technical brilliance, Defensive astuteness and all out aggression, Not to mention he's unbeaten unlike Pac, What the hell is he gonna prove by beating another old timer AGAIN like Barrer who's already thinking about retirement?!!, You need to kill the "pac groupie act" and catch a clue son cause you mad idle right now!!,
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I don't want to see Guzman fight Juarez, Rocky is too mentally weak for a fighter like Guzman and he'd just be beaten.
valero is too green and his chin isn't all that good.
If Guzman wants to fight before he moves up in weight again Pacquiao would be a good one.
I'm sure Pacquiao would have some trouble with him, Guzman isn't going to stand and trade with Pacman.
I think what it comes down to is, can Guzman take what Pacquiao can dish out. If he can then Pacquiao is in for a tough fight.
Want to see Pacquiao vs. Barrios one day!!! ;D
Oh lord you thrilling me right now starr :D, That's what i'm talking about it's just a shame the Pac groupies are catching feelings!!, I hope you've cheered up after the Morales disappointment boo!!,
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Damn that's straight dumb right there!!, Manny ran up to 130 to avoid Joan everyone knows that, Pac just doesn't want to face up to Joan's speed, Technical brilliance, Defensive astuteness and all out aggression, Not to mention he's unbeaten unlike Pac, What the hell is he gonna prove by beating another old timer AGAIN like Barrer who's already thinking about retirement?!!, You need to kill the "pac groupie act" and catch a clue son cause you mad idle right now!!,
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You're really dreaming. Manny went to 130 to fight better fighters. There was none in the featherweight. And don't you ever disrespect the Pacman.... He had fought all the greatest fighters in the division. Barrera was only considered for retirement when he took a beating from the Pacman.
Right now, nobody had ever beaten Barrera like the way the Pacman did. It just shows that Barrera is still in his prime. Just admit it that Pacman is #1 in the pound for pound list right now. Erik Morales had conceded already.
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Pacquiao would KTFO Guzman. Guzman is skilled,but he doesn't have the power to fend off Pac nad doens't have the movement to outbox him. Just because Guzman beat Barrios doesn't mean anything.And JMM is as skilled if not more so than Guzman and Pac did ok against him.Even if Guzman can take his best,Manny seems to be at that stage where nothing can distract him,he'll just keep banging away and with all these new moves he has learnt(counters etc etc) he is getting better each time he steps into the ring. What proof is there that Pac is dodgin Guzman when he fights Morales,MAB,JMM etc etc. You can also see Manny studies tapes HARD,going to Erik's body,countering him when he was off balance,I'm sure Roach would find flaws in Joan too.
I do belive Valero is too green and would get KTFO at this point in time but give him a year or 2.As for Barrios,it would be exciting but does Barrios have the power to hurt Manny? Manny's shorter more accurate punches would make it difficult for Barrios.
Go and watch Guzman fight before you speak from your heart where Pacs concerned, Any real boxing head knows Pac simply isn't seeing Guzman for speed, Technical ability (only Floyd is better), Movement and defensive skills, Guzman just has it all, Manny may have found a few new punches in his make-up but they said the same thing about Gatti when he came up against that slickster named Mayweather and we all know what happend :D, The fact is you can't say what would happen because Manny has never faced anyone like Guzman before, And you talk about Morales but didn't Morales beat Manny the first time?, Pac was outboxed that day and he'll be outboxed again by Guzman who has the power and aggression to go with it,
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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
Now Pac has beaten the over the hill Morales again i think it's time these two get it on, Pac should stop running from Joan and face the man i consider 2nd to Floyd in terms of technical ability and speed, What a fight it would be, There's no excuses now it has to happen ;D ,
what a retarded post! guzman has to face valero or juarez first before he can have the right to face pac...pac running? lol,he wont be in the top p4p if he avoids the best fighter...guzman vs edwin is the best fight.pac should face either barrera or marquez.
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Damn that's straight dumb right there!!, Manny ran up to 130 to avoid Joan everyone knows that, Pac just doesn't want to face up to Joan's speed, Technical brilliance, Defensive astuteness and all out aggression, Not to mention he's unbeaten unlike Pac, What the hell is he gonna prove by beating another old timer AGAIN like Barrer who's already thinking about retirement?!!, You need to kill the "pac groupie act" and catch a clue son cause you mad idle right now!!,
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You're really dreaming. Manny went to 130 to fight better fighters. There was none in the featherweight. And don't you ever disrespect the Pacman.... He had fought all the greatest fighters in the division. Barrera was only considered for retirement when he took a beating from the Pacman.
Right now, nobody had ever beaten Barrera like the way the Pacman did. It just shows that Barrera is still in his prime. Just admit it that Pacman is #1 in the pound for pound list right now. Erik Morales had conceded already.
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Pac would destroy Guzman. Guzman has lost his power moving up. He couldn't knock out Juargui or Barrios. And he connect flush plenty of times.
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Pac has improved since their first encounter and like I said JMM and MAB are skilled too whereas who has Guzman faced for you to even think he could beat Pac. Yeah he can shoulder roll and that looks great against Barrios but Pac will punch through his shoulder with his short accurate powerful punches.And it's not just a few new pnches,go and watch the fight properly..he had head mvement,jab,bodywork,right hand(used it to hook and counter). I havent even heard Guzman call out Pc let alone say Pac is ducking him so wtf are you talking about? Do you even know who Joan is fighting next?!
And to compare PAC TO gATTI...says it all really...... ::** ???
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Damn that's straight dumb right there!!, Manny ran up to 130 to avoid Joan everyone knows that, Pac just doesn't want to face up to Joan's speed, Technical brilliance, Defensive astuteness and all out aggression, Not to mention he's unbeaten unlike Pac, What the hell is he gonna prove by beating another old timer AGAIN like Barrer who's already thinking about retirement?!!, You need to kill the "pac groupie act" and catch a clue son cause you mad idle right now!!,
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You're really dreaming. Manny went to 130 to fight better fighters. There was none in the featherweight. And don't you ever disrespect the Pacman.... He had fought all the greatest fighters in the division. Barrera was only considered for retirement when he took a beating from the Pacman.
Right now, nobody had ever beaten Barrera like the way the Pacman did. It just shows that Barrera is still in his prime. Just admit it that Pacman is #1 in the pound for pound list right now. Erik Morales had conceded already.
Nope the FACTS say Floyd Mayweather is 'pound for pound' the best and everyone who loves the game knows that, Don't let your heart rule your head and face up to the fact that Pac has just beat an over the hill fighter and he's scared to fight the unbeaten slickster that is Joan Guzman!!, If he's a real p4p he won't have a problem beating him will he?!!, The Barrer suggestions are farcical purely designed by the Pac groupies to see their boy win another easy fight so they can all hail him "pound for pound" when he clearly isn't,
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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
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Originally Posted by rrbong
Damn that's straight dumb right there!!, Manny ran up to 130 to avoid Joan everyone knows that, Pac just doesn't want to face up to Joan's speed, Technical brilliance, Defensive astuteness and all out aggression, Not to mention he's unbeaten unlike Pac, What the hell is he gonna prove by beating another old timer AGAIN like Barrer who's already thinking about retirement?!!, You need to kill the "pac groupie act" and catch a clue son cause you mad idle right now!!,
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You're really dreaming. Manny went to 130 to fight better fighters. There was none in the featherweight. And don't you ever disrespect the Pacman.... He had fought all the greatest fighters in the division. Barrera was only considered for retirement when he took a beating from the Pacman.
Right now, nobody had ever beaten Barrera like the way the Pacman did. It just shows that Barrera is still in his prime. Just admit it that Pacman is #1 in the pound for pound list right now. Erik Morales had conceded already.
Nope the FACTS say Floyd Mayweather is 'pound for pound' the best and everyone who loves the game knows that, Don't let your heart rule your head and face up to the fact that Pac has just beat an over the hill fighter and he's scared to fight the unbeaten slickster that is Joan Guzman!!, If he's a real p4p he won't have a problem beating him will he?!!, The Barrer suggestions are farcical purely designed by the Pac groupies to see their boy win another easy fight so they can all hail him "pound for pound" when he clearly isn't,
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You really don't have the sense of knowing the difference between real truth and nominal truth. Where did you get the idea that Guzman ever tried to challenge PACMAN... moreover, where did you get the idea that PACMAN moved up just to evade Guzman. whew!!!! you're ludicrous..... you are not really familiar with boxing.
You're even guilty of what we call in the debate world as "hasty generalization". I can only conclude that you're trying to boost and advertise Guzman .... who is actually a nobody. I believe you were hired to come here and promote Guzman....
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Pac has improved since their first encounter and like I said JMM and MAB are skilled too whereas who has Guzman faced for you to even think he could beat Pac. Yeah he can shoulder roll and that looks great against Barrios but Pac will punch through his shoulder with his short accurate powerful punches.And it's not just a few new pnches,go and watch the fight properly..he had head mvement,jab,bodywork,right hand(used it to hook and counter). I havent even heard Guzman call out Pc let alone say Pac is ducking him so wtf are you talking about? Do you even know who Joan is fighting next?!
And to compare PAC TO gATTI...says it all really...... ::** ???
Lol Manny's technical abilty is so poor that you're all writing down every new thing he did tonight!!, You can study it all you want but he still ain't touching Guzman's technical ability, Manny had the chance to fight Joan at the lower weights and decided to move up, That to me means he's ducking Joan, You depict Pac as untouchable but it's been proved he can be beaten by a skilled boxer, At the end of the day Guzman is the unbeaten one and holds a belt, Pac needs to put the notion that he's scared of Joan to bed and fight him it's as simple as that, Pac fighting Barrer again would be the biggest joke in the game,
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This notion only exists in your head,I bet even Guzman does not think it which is why I have neither seen nor heard him mention either Pac ducking him or wanting to fight Pac. If you don't have any proof,stop whining. This is all I have to say on this matter.(ajnd I'm not just going by this fight,pac looked good against EM in the 2nd fight,showed some new moves against Larios and looked even better against EM last night).
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whew this is really a paid post courtesy of Guzman. To all the fans of Morales and Barrera and Now of Pacquaio..... Don't mind this person and don't mind about his unknown boxer (who is not in the pound for pound list).
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Damn that's straight dumb right there!!, Manny ran up to 130 to avoid Joan everyone knows that, Pac just doesn't want to face up to Joan's speed, Technical brilliance, Defensive astuteness and all out aggression, Not to mention he's unbeaten unlike Pac, What the hell is he gonna prove by beating another old timer AGAIN like Barrer who's already thinking about retirement?!!, You need to kill the "pac groupie act" and catch a clue son cause you mad idle right now!!,
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You're really dreaming. Manny went to 130 to fight better fighters. There was none in the featherweight. And don't you ever disrespect the Pacman.... He had fought all the greatest fighters in the division. Barrera was only considered for retirement when he took a beating from the Pacman.
Right now, nobody had ever beaten Barrera like the way the Pacman did. It just shows that Barrera is still in his prime. Just admit it that Pacman is #1 in the pound for pound list right now. Erik Morales had conceded already.
Nope the FACTS say Floyd Mayweather is 'pound for pound' the best and everyone who loves the game knows that, Don't let your heart rule your head and face up to the fact that Pac has just beat an over the hill fighter and he's scared to fight the unbeaten slickster that is Joan Guzman!!, If he's a real p4p he won't have a problem beating him will he?!!, The Barrer suggestions are farcical purely designed by the Pac groupies to see their boy win another easy fight so they can all hail him "pound for pound" when he clearly isn't,
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You really don't have the sense of knowing the difference between real truth and nominal truth. Where did you get the idea that Guzman ever tried to challenge PACMAN... moreover, where did you get the idea that PACMAN moved up just to evade Guzman. whew!!!! you're ludicrous..... you are not really familiar with boxing.
You're even guilty of what we call in the debate world as "hasty generalization". I can only conclude that you're trying to boost and advertise Guzman .... who is actually a nobody. I believe you were hired to come here and promote Guzman....
Bad....
To be honest as soon as you suggested Pac was "pound for pound" it was clear you were a massive Pac groupie who's unable to dabate anything concerning the man in a reasonable fashion, Your incompetence shined through from the outset and i'm inclined to suggest you actually go and see Guzman fight before passing further comment to provent making even more of an ass out of yourself,
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So you're saying Manny isn't P4P?
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So you're saying Manny isn't P4P?
At last a post without abuse!!, I don't think Pac is anywhere near Floyds class, Winkys certainly better and so is Taylor, I personally think Guzman is better as you already know but He'd be in the top 12 i guess :D,
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So you're saying Manny isn't P4P?
At last a post without abuse!!, I don't think Pac is anywhere near Floyds class, Winkys certainly better and so is Taylor, I personally think Guzman is better as you already know but He'd be in the top 12 i guess :D,
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Bro,no one has abused you,they have questioned you and rightfully so when you make statments like yours without any basis on fact,however I do apologise if I sounded rude in any earlier posts.
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what a guzman nuthugger! youre a perfect example of a delusional fan...if youre a true boxing fan,you wont even refer to morales as over-the-hill out of respect...if there is someone who has a chance of beating pac should be jmm..guzman? got no power since moving up..technique? wont . even compare him to jmm..what a retard... :)
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what a guzman fan! youre a perfect example of a delusional fan...if youre a true boxing fan,you wont even refer to morales as over-the-hill out of respect...if there is someone who has a chance of beating pac should be jmm..guzman? got no power since moving up..technique? wont . even compare him to jmm..what a retard... :)
very true. no respect for morales, barrera and pacquaio....what a shame!!!
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what a guzman fan! youre a perfect example of a delusional fan...if youre a true boxing fan,you wont even refer to morales as over-the-hill out of respect...if there is someone who has a chance of beating pac should be jmm..guzman? got no power since moving up..technique? wont . even compare him to jmm..what a retard... :)
You see El gamo?, This is the type of uninformed deluded fool i was talking about, Why the hell should i show "respect" for Morales?, I don't know the cat and i'm not a fan, I just call it how i see it it's not my fault you wanna get all emotional over it!! lol, Take your head out of pac's ass and look at what's going on in the game Mugabi (what a stupid name), There's fighters out there that will beat Pac and Guzman is one of them,
Your refusal to see Joan as a genuine threat is childish in the extreme
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Hello MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n,
So, we've established you are a very, very, very big admirer of Joan Guzman. And yes, he does look like a talented fighter. But please don't feel the need to tell us again. Point taken. Loud and clear.
PS. Are you Joan Guzman?
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Hello MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n,
So, we've established you are a very, very, very big admirer of Joan Guzman. And yes, he does look like a talented fighter. But please don't feel the need to tell us again. Point taken. Loud and clear.
PS. Are you Joan Guzman?
Are the pac groupies here part of pac's camp?, Are the Morales groupies part of the Morales camp?, Everyone has their favorites and just because i refuse to agree with other people's floored notions that doesn't make me wrong, Even the prophets had detractors
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Hello MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n,
So, we've established you are a very, very, very big admirer of Joan Guzman. And yes, he does look like a talented fighter. But please don't feel the need to tell us again. Point taken. Loud and clear.
PS. Are you Joan Guzman?
LOL....... I agree that he is a talented fighter. But, of course if compared to P4P fighters, fighters like Guzman are amateurs who feel like a pro.... in layman's term.... daydreamers!!!!
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i think a barrera fight is better. maybe not better for pacman but better for barrera. he needs to give barrera another chance
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bro..i didnt say joan isnt a threat,as of now barrera and marquez are more deserving to fight pac...personally,i dont think marco is capable of beating pac..a marquez fight would be more reasonable..your joan is a threat but objectively speaking,he cant hang with pac..you got flamed with your statement because of your delusional remark -pacs running away from joan or any good fighter for that matter...bro,wheres your joan right now? is he in the pound for pound list? beating barrios doesnt make him an overnight TOP contender to the throne..he has to earn it just as marco,eric,pac has done..oh,btw......mugabi is the beast....a favorite boxer of mine before. ;)
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Are the pac groupies here part of pac's camp?, Are the Morales groupies part of the Morales camp?, Everyone has their favorites and just because i refuse to agree with other people's floored notions that doesn't make me wrong, Even the prophets had detractors
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Precisely, MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n (and now prophet). People do have their favorites and just because they refuse to agree with other people's flawed notions that doesn't make them wrong either.
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bro..i didnt say joan isnt a threat,as of now barrera and marquez are more deserving to fight pac...personally,i dont think marco is capable of beating pac..a marquez fight would be more reasonable..your joan is a threat but objectively speaking,he cant hang with pac..you got flamed with your statement because of your delusional remark -pacs running away from joan or any good fighter for that matter...bro,wheres your joan right now? is he in the pound for pound list? beating barrios doesnt make him an overnight TOP contender to the throne..he has to earn it just as marco,eric,pac has done..oh,btw......mugabi is the beast....a favorite boxer of mine before. ;)
How the hell is Joan "undeserving" when Guzman is the one who's unbeaten out of all of them?, As i said the Barrer fight would be very boring as it's obvious Marco is looking at retirement and he's not in his prime anymore, And Pac already fought Marquez too (and was schooled even after he knocked him down twice), It's time for Pac to stop fighting people he's already beat and step out of his comfort zone!!, It's as if Pac and his fans are just scared of change and for him to step in the ring with someone in their prime who has all the tools to beat him is unthinkable it seems, KEEP RUNNING PAC!! ;D
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bro,who has he beaten? ??? hes undeserving! well,if he'll face say...a valero or a marquez perhaps..if he wins that is...then he might be considered..as of now he has to pay his dues and thats a fact.. :lickish:
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what a guzman fan! youre a perfect example of a delusional fan...if youre a true boxing fan,you wont even refer to morales as over-the-hill out of respect...if there is someone who has a chance of beating pac should be jmm..guzman? got no power since moving up..technique? wont . even compare him to jmm..what a retard... :)
You see El gamo?, This is the type of uninformed deluded fool i was talking about, Why the hell should i show "respect" for Morales?, I don't know the cat and i'm not a fan, I just call it how i see it it's not my fault you wanna get all emotional over it!! lol, Take your head out of pac's a** and look at what's going on in the game Mugabi (what a stupid name), There's fighters out there that will beat Pac and Guzman is one of them,
Your refusal to see Joan as a genuine threat is childish in the extreme
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Dude, IS JOAN GUZMAN YOUR DAD????...Has he even fought a P4P fighter???....I think Guzman should enter the "Contender" program first so that he could actually have a repuation and that people would realize that he really isnt a girl...PAC running from Guzman??? When Guuzman is worthy enough to kiss the shoes of Morales, be worthy enough to be Barreras waterboy, and be worthy enough to be JMMs' personal butler, then maybe you can write his name in the same sentence as the Awesome fighters stated above....PAC doesnt run, he'll deem GUZMAN a genuine threat when actually beats somebody who doesnt has a full time job at 7-Eleven.
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Originally Posted by mugabi saad
what a guzman fan! youre a perfect example of a delusional fan...if youre a true boxing fan,you wont even refer to morales as over-the-hill out of respect...if there is someone who has a chance of beating pac should be jmm..guzman? got no power since moving up..technique? wont . even compare him to jmm..what a retard... :)
You see El gamo?, This is the type of uninformed deluded fool i was talking about, Why the hell should i show "respect" for Morales?, I don't know the cat and i'm not a fan, I just call it how i see it it's not my fault you wanna get all emotional over it!! lol, Take your head out of pac's a** and look at what's going on in the game Mugabi (what a stupid name), There's fighters out there that will beat Pac and Guzman is one of them,
Your refusal to see Joan as a genuine threat is childish in the extreme
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Dude, IS JOAN GUZMAN YOUR DAD????...Has he even fought a P4P fighter???....I think Guzman should enter the "Contender" program first so that he could actually have a repuation and that people would realize that he really isnt a girl...PAC running from Guzman??? When Guuzman is worthy enough to kiss the shoes of Morales, be worthy enough to be Barreras waterboy, and be worthy enough to be JMMs' personal butler, then maybe you can write his name in the same sentence as the Awesome fighters stated above....PAC doesnt run, he'll deem GUZMAN a genuine threat when actually beats somebody who doesnt has a full time job at 7-Eleven.
Hahaha another Pac groupie crying cause i'm telling them some home truths ;D, Pac has beaten two ex pound for pounder's who were clearly not in their prime!!, Please try and understand that and quit swinging from Pac's balls man it's disgusting!!!, I've never seen such a bunch if deluded folks who can't take the facts, Guzman is UNBEATEN unlike your boy so he deserves a shot at him without question,
Catch a clue man please
Later
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Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
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Originally Posted by racso3073
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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
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Originally Posted by mugabi saad
what a guzman fan! youre a perfect example of a delusional fan...if youre a true boxing fan,you wont even refer to morales as over-the-hill out of respect...if there is someone who has a chance of beating pac should be jmm..guzman? got no power since moving up..technique? wont . even compare him to jmm..what a retard... :)
You see El gamo?, This is the type of uninformed deluded fool i was talking about, Why the hell should i show "respect" for Morales?, I don't know the cat and i'm not a fan, I just call it how i see it it's not my fault you wanna get all emotional over it!! lol, Take your head out of pac's a** and look at what's going on in the game Mugabi (what a stupid name), There's fighters out there that will beat Pac and Guzman is one of them,
Your refusal to see Joan as a genuine threat is childish in the extreme
Later
Dude, IS JOAN GUZMAN YOUR DAD????...Has he even fought a P4P fighter???....I think Guzman should enter the "Contender" program first so that he could actually have a repuation and that people would realize that he really isnt a girl...PAC running from Guzman??? When Guuzman is worthy enough to kiss the shoes of Morales, be worthy enough to be Barreras waterboy, and be worthy enough to be JMMs' personal butler, then maybe you can write his name in the same sentence as the Awesome fighters stated above....PAC doesnt run, he'll deem GUZMAN a genuine threat when actually beats somebody who doesnt has a full time job at 7-Eleven.
Hahaha another Pac groupie crying cause i'm telling them some home truths ;D, Pac has beaten two ex pound for pounder's who were clearly not in their prime!!, Please try and understand that and quit swinging from Pac's balls man it's disgusting!!!, I've never seen such a bunch if deluded folks who can't take the facts, Guzman is UNBEATEN unlike your boy so he deserves a shot at him without question,
Catch a clue man please
Later
Dude,
Tell him to beat a guy that doesnt work at 7-Eleven, maybe if he were able to upgrade and beat a Wal-Mart greeter Pac might consider him..
later
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Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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Originally Posted by racso3073
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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
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Originally Posted by racso3073
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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
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Originally Posted by mugabi saad
what a guzman fan! youre a perfect example of a delusional fan...if youre a true boxing fan,you wont even refer to morales as over-the-hill out of respect...if there is someone who has a chance of beating pac should be jmm..guzman? got no power since moving up..technique? wont . even compare him to jmm..what a retard... :)
You see El gamo?, This is the type of uninformed deluded fool i was talking about, Why the hell should i show "respect" for Morales?, I don't know the cat and i'm not a fan, I just call it how i see it it's not my fault you wanna get all emotional over it!! lol, Take your head out of pac's a** and look at what's going on in the game Mugabi (what a stupid name), There's fighters out there that will beat Pac and Guzman is one of them,
Your refusal to see Joan as a genuine threat is childish in the extreme
Later
Dude, IS JOAN GUZMAN YOUR DAD????...Has he even fought a P4P fighter???....I think Guzman should enter the "Contender" program first so that he could actually have a repuation and that people would realize that he really isnt a girl...PAC running from Guzman??? When Guuzman is worthy enough to kiss the shoes of Morales, be worthy enough to be Barreras waterboy, and be worthy enough to be JMMs' personal butler, then maybe you can write his name in the same sentence as the Awesome fighters stated above....PAC doesnt run, he'll deem GUZMAN a genuine threat when actually beats somebody who doesnt has a full time job at 7-Eleven.
Hahaha another Pac groupie crying cause i'm telling them some home truths ;D, Pac has beaten two ex pound for pounder's who were clearly not in their prime!!, Please try and understand that and quit swinging from Pac's balls man it's disgusting!!!, I've never seen such a bunch if deluded folks who can't take the facts, Guzman is UNBEATEN unlike your boy so he deserves a shot at him without question,
Catch a clue man please
Later
Dude,
Tell him to beat a guy that doesnt work at 7-Eleven, maybe if he were able to upgrade and beat a Wal-Mart greeter Pac might consider him..
later
I guess if GUZMAN does beat guys that work in 7-Eleven and Wal-Mart my DAD would be UNBEATEN too...
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Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
Who is this Miraculous Paragon who thinks hes a genius? He could be Guzman Himself who needs an increase in his paycheck that why he's trying hard to lure Pac in fighting Guzman.
Where on earth did it happen that Pac and Guzman is being set to fight and Pac is avoiding him? Pac went up to 130lbs because its the intelligent thing to do,, the best fighters are on that division and Pac wants to fight the best like Barrera and Morales, and not Guzman who's name was not even featured in any boxing magazine during that time. Guzman is not as good and popular as EM and MAB so why would Pac waste his time for Guzman. And now Pac has to fight Guzman??? or is it Guzman NEEDS A FIGHT with Pac to ride on his popularity and make better Bucks.???
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Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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Originally Posted by racso3073
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Originally Posted by racso3073
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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
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Originally Posted by racso3073
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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
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Originally Posted by mugabi saad
what a guzman fan! youre a perfect example of a delusional fan...if youre a true boxing fan,you wont even refer to morales as over-the-hill out of respect...if there is someone who has a chance of beating pac should be jmm..guzman? got no power since moving up..technique? wont . even compare him to jmm..what a retard... :)
You see El gamo?, This is the type of uninformed deluded fool i was talking about, Why the hell should i show "respect" for Morales?, I don't know the cat and i'm not a fan, I just call it how i see it it's not my fault you wanna get all emotional over it!! lol, Take your head out of pac's a** and look at what's going on in the game Mugabi (what a stupid name), There's fighters out there that will beat Pac and Guzman is one of them,
Your refusal to see Joan as a genuine threat is childish in the extreme
Later
Dude, IS JOAN GUZMAN YOUR DAD????...Has he even fought a P4P fighter???....I think Guzman should enter the "Contender" program first so that he could actually have a repuation and that people would realize that he really isnt a girl...PAC running from Guzman??? When Guuzman is worthy enough to kiss the shoes of Morales, be worthy enough to be Barreras waterboy, and be worthy enough to be JMMs' personal butler, then maybe you can write his name in the same sentence as the Awesome fighters stated above....PAC doesnt run, he'll deem GUZMAN a genuine threat when actually beats somebody who doesnt has a full time job at 7-Eleven.
Hahaha another Pac groupie crying cause i'm telling them some home truths ;D, Pac has beaten two ex pound for pounder's who were clearly not in their prime!!, Please try and understand that and quit swinging from Pac's balls man it's disgusting!!!, I've never seen such a bunch if deluded folks who can't take the facts, Guzman is UNBEATEN unlike your boy so he deserves a shot at him without question,
Catch a clue man please
Later
Dude,
Tell him to beat a guy that doesnt work at 7-Eleven, maybe if he were able to upgrade and beat a Wal-Mart greeter Pac might consider him..
later
I guess if GUZMAN does beat guys that work in 7-Eleven and Wal-Mart my DAD would be UNBEATEN too...
Well that's better than beating guys who should be picking up their pensions!!... hahahaha, You haters just don't learn man ;D
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