PACQUIAO THREAT TO MAYWEATHER
PACQIUIAO THREAT TO MAYWEATHER
Manny Pacquiao did much more than end the world-class career of one of this generation's finest talents when he destroyed Mexican great Erik Morales in three thunderous rounds in Las Vegas last Saturday night.
The manner of Pacquiao's victory was so emphatic it marked the Filipino firebrand out as a serious contender to Floyd Mayweather's coveted status as the best pound-for-pound fighter on the planet.
It virtually booked his future place in the sport's Hall of Fame, and when Pacquiao is one day inducted there is every likelihood it will be as the greatest fighter ever to come out of Asia.
That is an honour which for decades has been fought out between fans of the extraordinary, globe-trotting flyweight Pancho Villa, and lightweight star Flash Elorde, who beat both Sandy Saddler and Carlos Ortiz.
Pacquaio is a genuine superstar in the Philippines, and his star will blaze brighter across the continent if his next projected fight against Venezuelan sensation Edwin Valero comes to fruition.
Promoter Bob Arum wants to make the fight in the former Portuguese colony of Macau, creating arguably the biggest world title fight seen in Asia since the 'Thriller in Manila' 31 years ago.
Only Mike Tyson's devastating knockout loss to James Buster Douglas in Tokyo in 1990 has since succeeded in bringing an Asian boxing event to a truly global audience.
The devastating Pacquaio, who mixes a kamikaze, come-forward style with ferocious power and blistering hand-speed, is now big enough news to sell out, whoever is standing in the opposite corner.
If it is the reigning WBA super-featherweight king Valero, it promises to be a mouth-watering showdown to rival Mayweather's mooted clash with Oscar De La Hoya as the boxing event of 2007.
"We would like to make Manny's next fight in Macau against the kid from Venezuela who can't fight in the United States," confirmed Arum. "How is that for a little present?"
Valero, who is banned from fighting in the United States following irregularities in an MRI scan, knocked out all of his first 18 professional opponents in the first round.
In his 19th fight he was extended to round two, before almost keeping his amazing early record intact in his world title challenge last August when he decked Vicente Mosquera twice in round one.
Mosquera got up and knocked Valero to the canvas one round later but the Venezuelan showed he was about much more than simple punch power by going on to finish the job in round 10.
Pacquaio has the ability to turn almost all his contests into true highlight reel affairs - his clash with Morales has already been compared with the three-round war that was Hagler versus Hearns.
Pacquaio shrugs off the plaudits foisted upon him in the manner of a man for whom the love of prize-fighting, and the love of millions of people in his homeland, is reward enough.
The debate over whether Pacquaio has now eclipsed even the exceptional talents of Mayweather will rage on satellite television stations and internet message boards for months to come.
He says: "I think the people will decide on that, not the fighter."
But if he dispenses with Valero in similar style, the people will find the case for Pacquaio even harder to resist.
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I'd definitly prefer to watch Pac-Valero than PBF-ODLH,
it has fight of the year written all over it!!
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Originally Posted by ~Phil~
I'd definitly prefer to watch Pac-Valero than PBF-ODLH,
it has fight of the year written all over it!!
Pac would spark Valero out inside two rounds if they fought right now. Valero is way too open. He was hurt and dropped by Mosquera, Pacquaio would eat him alive.
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Agree.. Paquiao has too much intensity for him ;)
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it would be 2 great rounds though ;D
wouldn't surprise me if Valero managed to drop Pac as well!
but agree Pac would win ko/tko rd 5-7
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Pacman should bot be overconfident while fighting Valero. The guy can knock Pacquaio in 2 rounds.... that makes this fight more exciting.
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Valero is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to green for Pacman now and no way would that fight prove Pac is P4P anymore than he already is...However,give Valero a year or 2 and I'd back him wholeheartedly,don't just go by the wildman in fights,watch this guy spar and outbox Morales in sparring,it's awesome! He would also be the hardest hitting guy Pac has faced too butlike I said,at this time,I don't think he could do much against Pac nad it would be a bad fight to take for him.
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pac will k.o valero less then 6 for sure.
difference between pac and floyd...pac will fight anyone and k.o them...floyd debates money hand picks and jst hit and run boring 12 rounds...if pac was floyd and pac was black he`d be p4p king right now peoples would say more his like a little mike tyson because the side to side all forward devastating power...and if floyd was filipino and does what he does witch is handpicks and debates cass more then show interest in fighting everyone he`d be top 5 at the most...lets admit it race still place a part the image still fools most fans...
pac has beaten way better oppenents...if pac fought likes of gatti castillo corrales baldomir who are all stand still corpes pac would k.o them worst then floyd has beaten them...if floyd fought oppenents the likes of mab
, em, jmm floyd won`t be undefeated...to look at it imagin if pac wore his comfy gloves against em 1 pac should be undefeated since the storm across the pacific hit...
pacs the true p4p king...only a del hoya left hook should reveal it to most fans who get fooled by weight jumping handpicking yanks.chin check time should prove it.plus floyd can't brawl every great fighter needs to brawl to survive atleast one fight...but since he hand picks his oppenent he avoids having to brawl...costillo beat him that way though...that's a costillo imagin a mab or em or jmm...
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pac can destroy valero but overconfidence end careers
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The reason why I don't think Pacquaio is #1 p4p, and shouldn't be unless Mayweather loses is for reasons like when he hurt Morrales, He just came in punching, but had no thought of defense and was totally open to counters... even p4p he would have been slaughtered if he tried to open up like that against Mayweather or even a prime Morrales.
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Originally Posted by spine_buster
pac can destroy valero but overconfidence end careers
who's career? pac or valero
who's overconfident pac or valero?
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by ~Phil~
I'd definitly prefer to watch Pac-Valero than PBF-ODLH,
it has fight of the year written all over it!!
Pac would spark Valero out inside two rounds if they fought right now. Valero is way too open. He was hurt and dropped by Mosquera, Pacquaio would eat him alive.
No shame in that. I think Mosquera is a very good fighter. It was a good learning experience for Valero
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Originally Posted by Taeth
The reason why I don't think Pacquaio is #1 p4p, and shouldn't be unless Mayweather loses is for reasons like when he hurt Morrales, He just came in punching, but had no thought of defense and was totally open to counters... even p4p he would have been slaughtered if he tried to open up like that against Mayweather or even a prime Morrales.
pac seems very opened but his quick hands and power is too over whelming...floyd wouldn't be able to do nothing when pac throws what seems wildly but that's pacs one hell of a defense adding on the fact that floyd can't brawl for shyt...in that situtation floyd would need to run if not he`ll get pounded...don't think its a simple and easy opportunity when pac looks open keep in mind those fast powerfull hands will hit you...u can't hit him when his on that mood because your gonna get hit for sure too cause ur in range plus that is a invitation to brawl with him adding on that floyd is no brawler...people need stop being fooled that pac can be easily beatn by floyd bekuz he seems open for a lot of punches...because u hit him u get hit too and when he hits u your in trouble because another punch u won't see is following closely...only way floyd can win is if he jabs and run but that's impossible because no one last 12 rounds with pac p4p.
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Originally Posted by true p4p king
pac seems very opened but his quick hands and power is too over whelming...floyd wouldn't be able to do nothing when pac throws what seems wildly
Yea because Floyds shotty defense and awkward balance and lousy footwork would make him such an easy target.... ::**
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Originally Posted by true p4p king
pacs one hell of a defense adding on the fact that floyd can't brawl for shyt
Ok you forget Floyd was KO'ING people at that weight and trading when he had to and ALWAYS getting the better, Floyds Accuracy is second to none and Floyds power was more than aparrent..Floyd has plenty to keep Pac off him.... Floyds Speed, defense, ring smarts and accuracey is to much for Pac to overcome he would eat plenty of straight rights coming in and would look like the butcher got a hold of him...
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Originally Posted by true p4p king
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Originally Posted by Taeth
The reason why I don't think Pacquaio is #1 p4p, and shouldn't be unless Mayweather loses is for reasons like when he hurt Morrales, He just came in punching, but had no thought of defense and was totally open to counters... even p4p he would have been slaughtered if he tried to open up like that against Mayweather or even a prime Morrales.
pac seems very opened but his quick hands and power is too over whelming...floyd wouldn't be able to do nothing when pac throws what seems wildly but that's pacs one hell of a defense adding on the fact that floyd can't brawl for shyt...in that situtation floyd would need to run if not he`ll get pounded...don't think its a simple and easy opportunity when pac looks open keep in mind those fast powerfull hands will hit you...u can't hit him when his on that mood because your gonna get hit for sure too cause ur in range plus that is a invitation to brawl with him adding on that floyd is no brawler...people need stop being fooled that pac can be easily beatn by floyd bekuz he seems open for a lot of punches...because u hit him u get hit too and when he hits u your in trouble because another punch u won't see is following closely...only way floyd can win is if he jabs and run but that's impossible because no one last 12 rounds with pac p4p.
You forget that Pacquaio isn't an all out windmill 24/7 he does box, and he is slower than the bigger Floyd who we haven't seen hurt yet. He definitely was able to defend against the much faster Zab Judah once he got into rhythm. I think Pacquiao would eat the straight right, and it would hurt the smaller man, and he would be back up because he would be totally overwhelmed by Mayweather speed, and when he would try to counter he would totally open up his guard, and would be seriously embarrased or knocked out.
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by true p4p king
pac seems very opened but his quick hands and power is too over whelming...floyd wouldn't be able to do nothing when pac throws what seems wildly
Yea because Floyds shotty defense and awkward balance and lousy footwork would make him such an easy target.... ::**
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Originally Posted by true p4p king
pacs one hell of a defense adding on the fact that floyd can't brawl for shyt
Ok you forget Floyd was KO'ING people at that weight and trading when he had to and ALWAYS getting the better, Floyds Accuracy is second to none and Floyds power was more than aparrent..Floyd has plenty to keep Pac off him.... Floyds Speed, defense, ring smarts and accuracey is to much for Pac to overcome he would eat plenty of straight rights coming in and would look like the butcher got a hold of him...
CC for knowing the truth.
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Pacquiao is a phenomenal fighter and may very well be the most exciting fighter in the world, but he is simply not on Floyd's level when it comes to a PFP argument. For all his brilliance, Manny has had 5 fights in his career that have not resulted in a victory. Sure, a few of those happened when he was very young, but they count nonetheless. On the other hand, Mayweather is an undefeated professional with titles in 4 weight classes.
Floyd gets criticized for the level of his opposition, but that's only because he beats people so easily. Everyone forgets, but Corrales was a top 10 PFP guy when he fought Floyd in '01. Many of the experts picked Corrales. Not only did Corrales not win a round, he didn't even land one quality punch the whole fight.
If Mayweather and Pacquiao fought when Floyd was at 130 or 135, Mayweather would've won easily. He'd be the bigger, stronger, and much faster of the two. I'd have a hard time seeing Manny making it past the 7th or 8th round with Mayweather.
