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11-28-2006, 10:32 PM
Von Milash

True of false:

The right cross is the same as a straight right.
11-28-2006, 10:33 PM
Jamoie

Re: True of false:

True.
Do i have to continue the game now?
11-29-2006, 05:45 PM
Von Milash

Re: True of false:

anyone else care to take a crack at this? Scrap... come on... Adam.... Grey....Andre...
11-29-2006, 05:56 PM
BIG H

Re: True of false:

..................and is there such a thing as a right hook? ;)
11-29-2006, 06:16 PM
Von Milash

Re: True of false:

Yes, but only I know how to throw it. ;D
11-30-2006, 01:21 AM
oldtownboxing

Re: True of false:

Is this one of those chicken and egg questions?

I've only heard the martial arts people refer to using the right hand (for an orthodox fighter) as a right cross. I assume you're talking about the orthodox fighter's power punch. Essentially, they are suppose to be the same, however it depends on who's throwing it.......or who they learned it from, cause I've seen some nasty right hands that haven't even been named yet or decided if they were infact punches. Oh well, we've all been a novice.

For the orthodox novice there is no such thing as a right hook. Ever! The right hook is for the south paw and the advanced orthodox fighter.

OldTownBoxing
11-30-2006, 01:25 AM
hitmanhatton

Re: True of false:

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldtownboxing

Is this one of those chicken and egg questions?

I've only heard the martial arts people refer to using the right hand (for an orthodox fighter) as a right cross. I assume you're talking about the orthodox fighter's power punch. Essentially, they are suppose to be the same, however it depends on who's throwing it.......or who they learned it from, cause I've seen some nasty right hands that haven't even been named yet or decided if they were infact punches. Oh well, we've all been a novice.

For the orthodox novice there is no such thing as a right hook. Ever! The right hook is for the south paw and the advanced orthodox fighter.

OldTownBoxing

well the gym i train at teaches right hooks for orthadox fighters and it works well not many ppl get taught how to use and therfore arent taught how to defend against them
11-30-2006, 04:06 AM
Von Milash

Re: True of false:

Old town, that is correct.

Hitman, find a new trainer. lol. The right hook only works on the bag and if you have a guy on the ropes, and then it's a shovel-type body shot.
11-30-2006, 04:22 AM
landmine950

Re: True of false:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Milash

The right cross is the same as a straight right.

False!! the straight right is exactly that.straight. thrown from a lower position with the pinky finger knuckle of the closed fist almost touching the nipple the punch travels in a straight horizontal line to the target. the right cross is a punch that is thrown from a higher position and moves left "across" the throwers body to the target usually with a slight downward tragectory. If the right cross is thrown from the "hands up" position and down and not moving across the body it would be called an overhand right" of course the dividing line between these punchs is blurry and a matter of opinion and viewpoint of the person calling the fight.
hope this helps
11-30-2006, 04:26 AM
landmine950

Re: True of false:

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldtownboxing

Is this one of those chicken and egg questions?

I've only heard the martial arts people refer to using the right hand (for an orthodox fighter) as a right cross. I assume you're talking about the orthodox fighter's power punch. Essentially, they are suppose to be the same, however it depends on who's throwing it.......or who they learned it from, cause I've seen some nasty right hands that haven't even been named yet or decided if they were infact punches. Oh well, we've all been a novice.

For the orthodox novice there is no such thing as a right hook. Ever! The right hook is for the south paw and the advanced orthodox fighter.

OldTownBoxing

For an orthodox boxer. when he is off stance ie right foot forward as when he is pursuing he then is in position to throw a right hook.
12-01-2006, 10:16 AM
hitmanhatton

Re: True of false:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Milash

Old town, that is correct.

Hitman, find a new trainer. lol. The right hook only works on the bag and if you have a guy on the ropes, and then it's a shovel-type body shot.

find a new trainer ? thats why at the gym there are currently 5 midlands champions many of them getting inot at least the semis at national level
and yes maybe to the body it dosent work that well but for instance if u have someone coming towards u throwing the jab it can be used to slip the jab then bang it in over the top
12-01-2006, 12:31 PM
md

Re: True of false:

You're all right. Now stop nit picking. ;D
12-01-2006, 06:26 PM
Scrap

Re: True of false:

Landmine is spot on anything over 25% bend is a hook.I remember in the 60s acoach telling me there was no such thing as a left hook to the body it was an uppercut I use to ko people with something that didnt exist. load of bollocks cc
12-01-2006, 08:34 PM
Von Milash

Re: True of false:

It depends on the sanctioning body.
12-01-2006, 08:36 PM
AdamGB

Re: True of false:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Milash

The right cross is the same as a straight right.

Not if you're a south paw... ;)
12-01-2006, 08:52 PM
Tito BHB

Re: True of false:

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamGB

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Milash

The right cross is the same as a straight right.

Not if you're a south paw... ;)

hah..... thats just beyond knitpicking..

;D
12-02-2006, 03:26 AM
Scrap

Re: True of false:

Thanks for that pal
12-02-2006, 07:33 PM
Andre

Re: True of false:

No they are not the same.
The line is even finer with a right jab and straight right.
But the variables are huge when you think about foot movement behind a shot (wheres the target? and wheres your feet heading in response?) also whether a shot is landed with a vertical fist or a horizontal one. With of all the above you have every angle covered between named shots.