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Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
If these two tanks with iron chins went at it who would win? The Merciless one or the Nigerian Nightmare?
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
Have to with Mercer - great jab and much better skills in general
Peter is one dimensional, Mercer was actually gifted - just very under trained and under motivated!
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Have to with Mercer - great jab and much better skills in general
Peter is one dimensional, Mercer was actually gifted - just very under trained and under motivated!
Absolutely no question about it in my mind, Peter would have no chance against a top form Mercer.. Not that he usually came to the ring as such, but say the Mercer that fought Lennox, PEter would be beaten soundly.
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Have to with Mercer - great jab and much better skills in general
Peter is one dimensional, Mercer was actually gifted - just very under trained and under motivated!
Absolutely no question about it in my mind, Peter would have no chance against a top form Mercer.. Not that he usually came to the ring as such, but say the Mercer that fought Lennox, PEter would be beaten soundly.
Yeh - spot on mate ;)
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
Unfortunealy aside from the Morrison fight, I have not seen a complete fight of Mercer in his prime. I recently saw some clips of him against Holyfield on the ESPN Holyfield special, and he looked pretty good there. You guys are probably right, he would have beaten Peter, but would he have knocked him out? And would Peter have been able to hurt him?
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Unfortunealy aside from the Morrison fight, I have not seen a complete fight of Mercer in his prime. I recently saw some clips of him against Holyfield on the ESPN Holyfield special, and he looked pretty good there. You guys are probably right, he would have beaten Peter, but would he have knocked him out? And would Peter have been able to hurt him?
Mercer probably had the second best chin of all the nineties heavyweights (aside from McCall)
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Unfortunealy aside from the Morrison fight, I have not seen a complete fight of Mercer in his prime. I recently saw some clips of him against Holyfield on the ESPN Holyfield special, and he looked pretty good there. You guys are probably right, he would have beaten Peter, but would he have knocked him out? And would Peter have been able to hurt him?
Mercer probably had the second best chin of all the nineties heavyweights (aside from McCall)
definitely mercer in this one. he was past his best when he gave lewis hell in 96
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
So what the hell happened against Larry Holmes?
Ive never seen footage and its never added up in my mind?
Did Mercer just flop that night or was Holmes sucking on the last of his fumes?
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
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Originally Posted by The Grinch
So what the hell happened against Larry Holmes?
Ive never seen footage and its never added up in my mind?
Did Mercer just flop that night or was Holmes sucking on the last of his fumes?
He wasn't interested mate, didn't train, wasn't motivated - that's the way Mercer was for a lot of his career, i.e against Jesse Ferguson to name one.
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
Mercer very easily. He would have jabbed Peter silly and been miles ahead on the scorecards.
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
Ray, he'd simply take the fight to Sam Peter. Sam's power is overrated and if Ray Mercer could take a PRIME Tommy Morrison's accurate left hook and big right cross then he'd walk through anything Sam could throw at him.
Ray would also pressure Sam to the point he might be able to KO him a la the Morrison fight
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
Assumin g like most have already said Ray came into the fight READY to fight then he takes Peter with little difficulty.....Ra hit pretty damn hard and at his best had a chin of steel.....I don't know if he would KO Peter but a UD would easily be in the cards
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Assumin g like most have already said Ray came into the fight READY to fight then he takes Peter with little difficulty.....Ra hit pretty damn hard and at his best had a chin of steel.....I don't know if he would KO Peter but a UD would easily be in the cards
good point plus mercers jab gave lewis trouble plus he took prime lewis the distance and only lost razor thin decision so i pick mercer to jab peters head off and win comfortable ud
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Unfortunealy aside from the Morrison fight, I have not seen a complete fight of Mercer in his prime. I recently saw some clips of him against Holyfield on the ESPN Holyfield special, and he looked pretty good there. You guys are probably right, he would have beaten Peter, but would he have knocked him out? And would Peter have been able to hurt him?
Mercer probably had the second best chin of all the nineties heavyweights (aside from McCall)
Yup . No question
I reckon Mercer was fundamentally a better all around fighter TBH . His chin was iron plus it was tucked down so if Peter cant knock him out I cant see how he could win . Mercer would win the rounds behind his left jab , better movement , better positioning / balance etc . He may even stop Sam late though Ud would be a safer bet . Mercer was dangerous when he opened up . Ask Morrisson .
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
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Originally Posted by Hulk
If these two tanks with iron chins went at it who would win? The Merciless one or the Nigerian Nightmare?
I think Mercer would pull it off...he had more skill than Peter and I believe He fought better competition than Peter....
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
WHAT??? you guys are all NUTS!!!
There is absolutely no way that Samual Peters loses to Freddy Mercury!
Sure he was a great singer, but he was a wimp! and he had those weird buck teeth! I even think the guy may have been a fruit! he alway was wearing leather!! Sam peters is too big way too strong and too............huh??,........what..........oh..... ..who??..Ray Mercer...???
oh well ya....duh ..mercer would kick the shit out of peters.... ,sorry.
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
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Originally Posted by Hulk
If these two tanks with iron chins went at it who would win? The Merciless one or the Nigerian Nightmare?
I don't think Peter is at his prime yet, he still learning on the job. but in a few years I would go with the bigger stronger peter. ;D LMFAO
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Hulk
If these two tanks with iron chins went at it who would win? The Merciless one or the Nigerian Nightmare?
I don't think Peter is at his prime yet, he still learning on the job. but in a few years I would go with the bigger stronger peter. ;D LMFAO
Whats so funny? And people, its PETER NOT PETERS. Get it right.
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
Ray Mercer would definately win this one.He is a much more skilled fighter and has a granite chin Petter's only hope would be a ko and I really doubt that would happen.
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
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Originally Posted by landmine950
I even think the guy may have been a fruit!
There is no "may" about Freddy Mercury being a fruit....great singer but as queer as they get.
As for Sam Peter "Learning on the job" he hasn't learned too much apparently. He doesn't set up his punches and he just looks like a damn fighter from a toughman competition
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Hulk
If these two tanks with iron chins went at it who would win? The Merciless one or the Nigerian Nightmare?
I don't think Peter is at his prime yet, he still learning on the job. but in a few years I would go with the bigger stronger peter. ;D LMFAO
Whats so funny? And people, its PETER NOT PETERS. Get it right.
I would go with the bigger stronger Peter ! thats pretty damn funny. dude come on,, the bigger stronger peter ! get it ! :willydance:
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Hulk
If these two tanks with iron chins went at it who would win? The Merciless one or the Nigerian Nightmare?
I don't think Peter is at his prime yet, he still learning on the job. but in a few years I would go with the bigger stronger peter. ;D LMFAO
Whats so funny? And people, its PETER NOT PETERS. Get it right.
I would go with the bigger stronger Peter ! thats pretty damn funny. dude come on,, the bigger stronger peter ! get it ! :willydance:
HA HA :rotflmao: CC
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
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Originally Posted by Hulk
If these two tanks with iron chins went at it who would win? The Merciless one or the Nigerian Nightmare?
Ray Mercer in his prime would fuck him up like he did against Tommy Gunn. Sam Peter leaves himself open and gives his opponents too many opportunities. A heavy handed finisher like Mercer was in his day would take him to the cleaners.
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Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by landmine950
I even think the guy may have been a fruit!
There is no "may" about Freddy Mercury being a fruit....great singer but as queer as they get.
As for Sam Peter "Learning on the job" he hasn't learned too much apparently. He doesn't set up his punches and he just looks like a damn fighter from a toughman competition
Queer?? he had a hairy chest just like Magnum P.I. !!!
