Sanders come-back

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12-02-2006, 06:37 PM
plinden

Sanders come-back

a) Sanders is back and the first thing he does is to crush a 6.6(?)ft Australian champion in 2. He was endlessly better and should now be Australian Champion. -You may say; so what Wilson is not good, but its not a given to knock out a giant of a man who is an Australian champion.

b) Now my QUESTION IS THIS: today, with proper preparation, about where do you put Sanders in terms of who he could beat? This is my list:

He would shock most challengers: Brock, Barret, Ibragimov, Davaryll, Holyfield, etc. He could win against Sam Peter -although he needs to be careful.
He would probably beat Maskaev, Briggs and Valuev. He could beat Wlad in a closer fight than last fight.

So on the basis of how dangerous he is to other opponents, I would rate him in the top 10 perhaps higher. I mean; maskaev, valuev, and briggs -here he has to be the favourite.
12-02-2006, 07:10 PM
Wacko3205

Re: Sanders come-back

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Originally Posted by plinden

a) Sanders is back and the first thing he does is to crush a 6.6(?)ft Australian champion in 2. He was endlessly better and should now be Australian Champion. -You may say; so what Wilson is not good, but its not a given to knock out a giant of a man who is an Australian champion.

Honestly...I aint that impressed with who he just beat...especially if you can say in arguement that Wilson's no good. Both the guys were cannon fodder. Varakin & Wilson had over 12 losses each & that's just not enough for me to go on.

That being said...Sanders WAS impressive.

I always thought that he was one of the most underratted & heaviest hitters over 200lbs.

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Originally Posted by plinden

b) Now my QUESTION IS THIS: today, with proper preparation, about where do you put Sanders in terms of who he could beat? This is my list:

He would shock most challengers: Brock, Barret, Ibragimov, Davaryll, Holyfield, etc. He could win against Sam Peter -although he needs to be careful.
He would probably beat Maskaev, Briggs and Valuev. He could beat Wlad in a closer fight than last fight.

I'd have to see what he looked like against Maskaev before I made any decisions on championship level fighters. I think Maskaev is the easiest win outta the bunch.

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Originally Posted by plinden

So on the basis of how dangerous he is to other opponents, I would rate him in the top 10 perhaps higher. I mean; maskaev, valuev, and briggs -here he has to be the favourite.

Wouldn't rate Sanders in the top 10 just yet...but I'd love to see if Wlad could take him in a rematch.
12-03-2006, 01:17 AM
mucho testosterone

Re: Sanders come-back

This guy is out of shape. He still has a naturally quick, powerful left hand that was grossly underrated his whole career. Though. Anyone who can avoid his left for a few rounds (like Vitali pretty much did) will be able to catch him when he's billowing for air in the seventh.
12-03-2006, 01:26 AM
Punisher136

Re: Sanders come-back

Instead of old guys coming back how about some good new guys stepping up?
12-03-2006, 01:31 AM
CutMeMick

Re: Sanders come-back

If Sanders can get his hands on a belt I think we might just see Wladd vs. Sanders II.....
12-03-2006, 10:19 AM
CountryBoy

Re: Sanders come-back

Fuk unibrow
12-03-2006, 05:40 PM
GAME

Re: Sanders come-back

I wish Corrie Sanders had abit of dedication cuz he'd clean up the division .

They guy has lights out power , quick hands and is probably the most dangerous guy in the world for 2 rounds . That being said , I believe his time has probably passed .Abit of a waste of talent IMO and massively underrated
12-03-2006, 06:43 PM
mucho testosterone

Re: Sanders come-back

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Originally Posted by GAME

I wish Corrie Sanders had abit of dedication cuz he'd clean up the division .

They guy has lights out power , quick hands and is probably the most dangerous guy in the world for 2 rounds . That being said , I believe his time has probably passed .Abit of a waste of talent IMO and massively underrated

Left hand is very powerful but he just doesn't (or didn't) seem to have a whole lot of other tools. He is probably one of the most dangerous fighter to brawl with though.
12-03-2006, 06:54 PM
El Kabong

Re: Sanders come-back

....his power was very good and being a lefty it was tricky to block that cross, especially considering how fast it was.

Corrie is 40 years old and I don't think he was in that good of shape when he was in his prime not to mention NOW.

Tough guy, lots of heart, good power but no dedication to the sport
12-04-2006, 12:27 AM
mucho testosterone

Re: Sanders come-back

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Originally Posted by Lyle

....his power was very good and being a lefty it was tricky to block that cross, especially considering how fast it was.

Corrie is 40 years old and I don't think he was in that good of shape when he was in his prime not to mention NOW.

Tough guy, lots of heart, good power but no dedication to the sport

Very True.
12-04-2006, 11:02 AM
Snakey

Re: Sanders come-back

Wait wait wait..........colin wilson? Is that him? HAHAHAHAHA jeez people if even knew about this fight. Last time i saw wilson fight, he looked like a guy who had just decided in the morning he wanted to be a boxer against bob mirovic.
12-05-2006, 05:35 AM
plinden

Re: Sanders come-back

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Originally Posted by Snakey

Wait wait wait..........colin wilson? Is that him? HAHAHAHAHA jeez people if even knew about this fight. Last time i saw wilson fight, he looked like a guy who had just decided in the morning he wanted to be a boxer against bob mirovic.

Some fun match-ups: Toney vs Sanders in an eliminator; old KO artist vs old slickster, Sanders vs Briggs; nice 4 rounds; one will be carried out (not sanders - I have never seen him down - he just stands there and takes it wo going down - Teddy Atlas should love this guy as project; he just needs some discipline; imagine working proffesionally on his stamina -run, run run- and movement; he would be good for another 5 years not an easy fight for anyone.
12-05-2006, 05:44 AM
right_cross

Re: Sanders come-back

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Originally Posted by Punisher136

Instead of old guys coming back how about some good new guys stepping up?

Absolutely! I'm sick of these retreads. First Golota, Briggs, and now Sanders.

I guess seeing Briggs, a lumbering stiff with asthma, win a title has him thinking. I think Corrie should stay on the links. He never was that good. In his prime he got stopped by Rahman for cryin out loud.

Is this division ever going to get better. :(
12-05-2006, 05:47 AM
CountryBoy

Re: Sanders come-back

The truth is if he fights Wlad again, Wlad will prepare like no tomorrow and knock his lazy ass out!(Quicker and more explosively than Vitali.
12-05-2006, 03:26 PM
mucho testosterone

Re: Sanders come-back

I see Wlad heavily preparing for this one if it were to happen. I see him being cautions for about 4 rounds, establishing jab and then thats it.

Wlad would definitely KO him.
12-05-2006, 07:05 PM
plinden

Re: Sanders come-back

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Originally Posted by right_cross

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Originally Posted by Punisher136

Instead of old guys coming back how about some good new guys stepping up?

Absolutely! I'm sick of these retreads. First Golota, Briggs, and now Sanders.

I guess seeing Briggs, a lumbering stiff with asthma, win a title has him thinking. I think Corrie should stay on the links. He never was that good. In his prime he got stopped by Rahman for cryin out loud.

Is this division ever going to get better. :(

I completely disagree. Picking out Sanders rare losses, Rahman, Vitaly (+ a fluke) is so unfair. Give that Sanders knocked down Rahman and psuhed down and hit Vitaly. In no fight did he go down; he was standing with his hands up, not throwing back enough and the fight was stopped. So the Rahman fight was his to win, and he stood up to Vitaly, and beat Wlad; ARE YOU NUTS? If he wasnt that good, why didnt Vitaly knock him out?
Totally unfair. I would say that Sanders is one of the greatest the last 10 years; Vitaly, Sanders, Lewis, its just that things never came together right. He almost KO Rahman, and Vitaly in early rounds; he could have won both, it was close.
12-05-2006, 07:12 PM
El Kabong

Re: Sanders come-back

If he had dedication to the sport he could have but he didn't and it's a damn shame
12-05-2006, 07:21 PM
mucho testosterone

Re: Sanders come-back

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Originally Posted by plinden

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Originally Posted by right_cross

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Originally Posted by Punisher136

Instead of old guys coming back how about some good new guys stepping up?

Absolutely! I'm sick of these retreads. First Golota, Briggs, and now Sanders.

I guess seeing Briggs, a lumbering stiff with asthma, win a title has him thinking. I think Corrie should stay on the links. He never was that good. In his prime he got stopped by Rahman for cryin out loud.

Is this division ever going to get better. :(

I completely disagree. Picking out Sanders rare losses, Rahman, Vitaly (+ a fluke) is so unfair. Give that Sanders knocked down Rahman and psuhed down and hit Vitaly. In no fight did he go down; he was standing with his hands up, not throwing back enough and the fight was stopped. So the Rahman fight was his to win, and he stood up to Vitaly, and beat Wlad; ARE YOU NUTS? If he wasnt that good, why didnt Vitaly knock him out?
Totally unfair. I would say that Sanders is one of the greatest the last 10 years; Vitaly, Sanders, Lewis, its just that things never came together right. He almost KO Rahman, and Vitaly in early rounds; he could have won both, it was close.

I will agree with you that this guy was one of the most underrated heavies in a long time, and I will agree with Lyle that it is probably his level of dedication which caused people to percieve him like that.
He did have one of the most powerful lefts and a ton of heart but he didn't have enough dimension.

As far as what Vitali did to him though.....

that may have been the most underrated ass whooping in the heavweight division in a long time. Corrie Sanders looked like something off of Star Trek at the end of that fight. That beating was brutal. He was really lumped. That fight was stopped about two rounds too late.