http://www.secondsout.com/news/index...s=534&cs=20892
Just read this. Was he really as bad as this guy makes out?
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http://www.secondsout.com/news/index...s=534&cs=20892
Just read this. Was he really as bad as this guy makes out?
He didn't look to sharp, the first two rounds his was landing power shots with no problem, but after that Tsypko had it figured out. If Tsypko would've let his hands go more, he would have taken that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greig
and another injury Lacy is saying he injured his shoulder after the 2nd round ???
Looks like Lacy is another overrated busted flush: Gets beaten soundly, then cannot rebound from it ever again. :lickish:
Your'e not giving Joe or Calzaghe their proper respects.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syntax Error
Joe destroyed him mentally...& physically...you don't come back from that too easily.
look at how long it took Shane to come backQuote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
IMO, Lacy started off good I liked that his punches got straighter he doesn't loop them, I really think his problem is patience...
Once he sees hes not getting his way with a fighter he resort to nothing but power punching.... And completely forgets about his jab and combos...
Though that article is IMO a bit over the top....
The article is wack...but I told you prior to the fight that this was a hellaciousley tough nut to take as a first opponent back after such a mentally & physcially debilitating beating.
He won...but just barely judging from the snippets that I saw.
No shat!, Obviously not.... ;) Lacy is Overrated and Joe is Underrated!Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
This is what kills me about boxing fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
Jeff was a champion, he dominated basically all that he faced, he then faces the best at 168lbs & get's handled & the majority of you want to write him off.
It's a simple case of a great up & comer that jumped to fast by fighting the best in the world & loses. So now...he's overratted & nothing?"
That's bullshit.
Lacy needs a few more wins to get back to form...but Tsypko would be the last one that I'd have done so with.
Give Lacy time...he can & will come back.
Lacy looked less muscular than he did in past fights. Am I right or was that my imagination?
I have not seen the fight,but on different boxing-site some guy`s said Tsypko was robbed,it`s that true ???
Nah! to me he looked the same...Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
It's all about opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
I've seen it many times before; fighters get hyped way beyond what they really are, they get exposed badly & then they never get back to their former high level.
Lacy showed in the Calzgahe fight that he just does not have the allround ability to live with the best in the world.
If he had made the Calzaghe fight competitve (which a fighter of his hype should have done), then I would say otherwise.
Lacy is very limited & IMO, he won't come back.
Unless he expands his arsenal of weapons. He can come back, but power punching alone ain't gonna do it. he has to learn to chip away, round by round, with combos and different angles. Once he learns he cannot dominate every fight with power, then he'll be much better off.
That's what I was thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by sexydarin
He is way too limited, but there is also the mental aspect.
Boxing is probably more mental than it is physical & as someone has pointed out, Calzaghe destroyed him mentally.
If you cannot cope with a big loss when you are still young enough to come back, then you might as well get out of the game.
jeff lacy is one dimonesional.
jeff lacy=SACKED.
Lacy is an unskilled one dimensional fighter when mixing with the top boys.
After his power shots fail he has little left to offer.
Calzaghe broke him upstairs ;)
I ain't gonna comment on Calzaghe's win or Lacy's 'mental state'.
I really wanted Jeff to come back rebuilt and better - but he wasn't at all.
In a nutshell, he was pisss poor.
In the first 3 rounds, he was all pumped up and letting big straight shots go, leaning in and landing them - but as soon Tsypko found the distance and began timing him, Lacy unravelled.
I give Lacy about 3..possibly 4 of the 10 rounds - and that is all seriously.
He got staggered BIG TIME around the 4th (?) and litterally his knee's buckled and he staggered back - LL cool J jumped out his seat in the back ground when it occured.
From around this point on, Jeff looked completely tired-out, his stamina was dreadful and he was blowing out his asss.
In complete honesty - If Vitali had the benefit of 12 rounds instead of 10, he would not only have given the judges absolutely no choice but to give him their votes - but he might have even stopped Jeff.
The scariest observation of all - was that Jeff's big punches did absolutely nothing to Tsypko - the cuts he had were from clashing of heads.
Lacy needs to fight 4 rounds from here on in his career - a Bute, Kessler, Froch, Pascal or Inkin would eat him alive from round 5 onwards.
The author was pretty much dead on...Lacy looked terrible against a statue that didn't throw many punches...I do believe this guys power was underrated because he was clearly hurting Lacy to the head and body...It was an evenly matched fight which doesn't say much for Lacy's future title prospects...I will give Calzaghe all the credit for the Lacy we now see...Just like Forrest ruined Mosley, Calzaghe ruined Lacy...imoQuote:
Originally Posted by Greig
true.. his best punch was the necessary punch - lean rightsQuote:
Originally Posted by CityOfGod
he was too conscious too look good and flawless
and please tell me why he's called 'left hook'
for a fighter to be called like that that must be some
devastating wicked left hook but i saw nothin at all of it
Tsypko was robbed last night. How Wacko can say he thought Lacy won just watching the snippets of the fight is alien to me - you need to see the whole body of work when it comes to boxing and Tsypko schooled Lacy in nearly every department.
I think Lacy could beat Froch - who is another ovrated fighter - but someone like Sakio Bika would destroy him! And that's saying something, it tells me Lacy only just makes the top 10 let alone top 5.
I think Froch has way to much stamina for Lacy - and consider this:-
How would a one-dimensional fighter like Lacy figure out a sneaky, tricky fighter like Froch?
He could try to bang him out early doors, but the Froch beard is iron and i think he would expect it coming early on.
I think his next opponent would have to be someone like Peter Manfedo or....
....Drop down to middle-weight.
i agree Froch gives Lacy problems he throws punches from strange angles especially the uppercut.Froch is easy to hit and i think Lacy would connect and get stop him in the middle rounds.
haha, i don't think the Lacy fight was as bad as people are making out. It was like his first fight back, he still needs time to ajust. He said he took around 6 months out from boxing after the Calzaghe fight.
He did look in good shape, but you could see after 4 rounds he was very tired and that his shoulder was hurt, ad that was the time when Tsypko was coming into the fight.
If Froch wants to beat anyone to get a name fromh im self, his best bet is Tsypko ... IF Froch was to beat lacy then lacy would be slagged off even more than he is now... beating Tsypko however should see Froch lined up to fight for the IBF or Kessler
As for lacy, still think he takes one of the 4 Titles in 07.
Tsypko didn't look like much special to me. He didn't throw enough combinations. His handspeed was just OK, and he defense was average. From what I saw last night, Manfredo would handle Lacy pretty easily right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
has me requestioining him and took the shine right off what Joe done to him IMO ;)
Agreed. Lacy came back against a very tricky opponent and squeezed out the result. It was nothing flash, but it was hardly a comeback against Peter McNeeley. You've gotta respect Lacy for getting back in the mix against a decent pro...now its about Lacy building himself up some more and managing to rely on more than power punches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Preme
He needs to work on the jab and not get discouraged if those hard shots are not landing...
Lacy is still top 3 in the SMW division IMO...
I'm with you on this...Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
the commentators made comparisons with him and David Reid. They could be right , and yes it could tarnish what Joe actually did that night.
Lacy is finished as a major player in division
Agree 100% but he never was a player,just highly overated.
He can't box.
End of. O0
Im not even a big Lacy fan, but to say he is finished as a major player is silly. He took on a tough fight and scraped on through. The guy has balls and with the right tuition he can still play a part at SMW....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
He needs to learn patience and shot variety and a bit of defence....but he can still play a part...
fair enough - lets see what becomes of him shall we
If you notice in the first rds. where he was using his jab and throwing the straight punches he was wining and was giving Tsypko trouble..... As I said I think Lacys problem is hes NOT patient, I saw how he would try to get back to his jab and the straight righ (instead of the looping bombs he throws) but then he would forget all that and start throwing bombs! it's like he doesnt have the patience to fight and win rds. at a time. He want's the BIG KO toooooo much... and to me thats his problem.....
Hate to do it...but I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smashup
Relied on power, no defence, & that's that.
Massive problem mate. (Mick...) (How's the head Wack..? ;D)
He was badly wobbled in the 7th or 8th i think and when the other guy can come through his bombs he has little boxing skills to change his tactics.
He's exactly like a lesser skilled Tyson ;)
Tsypko was no joke.
Has everyone forgotten that Vitali is a good fighter too?
And it's not the fight that Lacy should have come back on because Tsypko aint a joke and can make anyone look bad and is very skilled.
Lacy had an opponent in front of him who was very good Super Middleweight and I like that he struggled.
It's better for him to fight a tough opponent and struggle then face an easy opponent and knock them up and then get beat up badly like Trinidad was :'(
No one seems to be pointing out that Lacy stopped using his left hand somewhere in the 4th round, and kept going for six more. They held the ice bag only on his left shoulder throughout the fight.
You are all right; Tsypko could have won--if he did more. But he didn't, and Lacy showed stamina and maturity in fighting one handed. When he got tired in the eighth & ninth, he started leaning in & Tsypko capitalized. Go back and look.
It's already agreed that he was coming back tough, so the fact that he took a close decision is a real commendation to his ability.
Let him heal and let's see who and how he fights next...
well Lacy was saying to his corner that he had hurt his left shoulder since the 2nd round.
But whats Birmingham doing? Not teaching Lacy the way he should thats what
I'll say it like this...
If Clottey fought the way Lacy did, Clottey would have won the championship last night.
Instead he loses with an excuse, and Lacy wins with lots of criticism. Go figure.