Hatton v Cotto@147-what do you think?

Before,at 140,I would slightly favour Hatton BUT that is against a weakened,weight drained Cotto,at 147,my boy whoops Hatton's ass! Bring yo ass to 147 Hatton! Cotto also now has a far far far better resume overall imo....

Cotto KO 4. I'd give Ricky 7 rounds before getting KO'd if they met at 140.

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Originally Posted by shza

Cotto KO 4. I'd give Ricky 7 rounds before getting KO'd if they met at 140.

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LMAO,you are either a big Cotto fan OR have a seveer disliking of Hatton/think he is over rated,I think I can guess which one it is. ;) How do you think he would win?

Based on there last fights. Cotto has Hatton in a hospital by the 3rd round

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Based on there last fights. Cotto has Hatton in a hospital by the 3rd round

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LMAO,Hatton is a tough tough guy,surely you think he would last longer? He was able to take Tszyu's shots? (WTF am I semi defending Ricky?! ??? ;D) Hatton also maintains a relentless pace and has good bodyshots,my ONLY worry would be whether the pace would be too much for Cotto? That's the only Q I have left for my boy.

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Based on there last fights. Cotto has Hatton in a hospital by the 3rd round

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LMAO,Hatton is a tough tough guy,surely you think he would last longer? He was able to take Tszyu's shots? (WTF am I semi defending Ricky?! ??? ;D) Hatton also maintains a relentless pace and has good bodyshots,my ONLY worry would be whether the pace would be too much for Cotto? That's the only Q I have left for my boy.

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Your asking about 147 not 140. Cotto can keep the pace cuz he won't be drained from making weight like he was at 140. And there's a reason Hatton put his tail between his legs and ran like a bitch back to 140. He can't handle the big boys at 147. Did you see the fights last night? Cotto looked like a fuckin middleweight. He'll destroy Hatton at 147.

147 doesn't fit Hatton well, on the other hand we saw Cotto at 147 and IMO it fit him well.

So based on that and the fact that Hatton isn't getting any younger I'm gonna woth Cotto mid-way TKO rd. 5 or so.... Don't think Hattons had someone digg into his body the way Cotto would if they met. Plus Hatton weight issues would play a major factor here....

Wow!! I'm glad to see you guys see the light,Cotto would certainly win,but I wanted to see if anyone still disputed it..I hope Cotto calls him out,beats him and takes his spot in P4P lists! Cotto DID LOOK SENSATIONAL last night but I still want to see him in a 12 rounder,see if the stamina question is still an issue.By the looks of it,I don't think so!

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Originally Posted by shza

Cotto KO 4. I'd give Ricky 7 rounds before getting KO'd if they met at 140.

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LMAO,you are either a big Cotto fan OR have a seveer disliking of Hatton/think he is over rated,I think I can guess which one it is. ;) How do you think he would win?

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I think Hatton is severely overrated, as you infer. I do like Cotto a lot, but just objectively I can't imagine Ricky hanging with him. Yes, Ricky hung with Tszyu, but even at his prime Tszyu didn't have power like Cotto, and Tszyu was far from prime when Ricky got to him. Cotto is more of a boxer than Tszyu is too. Not to mention considerably bigger and stronger.

For me the question is not whether Cotto could keep up with Hatton's pace, but for how long Hatton could keep up any reasonable pace while getting hit and pushed around by a much bigger and stronger man. Hatton's success depends on bullying his opponents, which he couldn't do with Cotto.

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Cotto KO 4. I'd give Ricky 7 rounds before getting KO'd if they met at 140.

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LMAO,you are either a big Cotto fan OR have a seveer disliking of Hatton/think he is over rated,I think I can guess which one it is. ;) How do you think he would win?

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I think Hatton is severely overrated, as you infer. I do like Cotto a lot, but just objectively I can't imagine Ricky hanging with him. Yes, Ricky hung with Tszyu, but even at his prime Tszyu didn't have power like Cotto, and Tszyu was far from prime when Ricky got to him. Cotto is more of a boxer than Tszyu is too. Not to mention considerably bigger and stronger.

For me the question is not whether Cotto could keep up with Hatton's pace, but for how long Hatton could keep up any reasonable pace while getting hit and pushed around by a much bigger and stronger man. Hatton's success depends on bullying his opponents, which he couldn't do with Cotto.

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Fwooking beautiful analysis,Cool Click!! Totally agree with EVERYTHING you said....

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Cotto KO 4. I'd give Ricky 7 rounds before getting KO'd if they met at 140.

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LMAO,you are either a big Cotto fan OR have a seveer disliking of Hatton/think he is over rated,I think I can guess which one it is. ;) How do you think he would win?

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I think Hatton is severely overrated, as you infer. I do like Cotto a lot, but just objectively I can't imagine Ricky hanging with him. Yes, Ricky hung with Tszyu, but even at his prime Tszyu didn't have power like Cotto, and Tszyu was far from prime when Ricky got to him. Cotto is more of a boxer than Tszyu is too. Not to mention considerably bigger and stronger.

For me the question is not whether Cotto could keep up with Hatton's pace, but for how long Hatton could keep up any reasonable pace while getting hit and pushed around by a much bigger and stronger man. Hatton's success depends on bullying his opponents, which he couldn't do with Cotto.

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I've always said Hatton is overratted. I defended Shza a few weeks ago when he claimed he wasn't p4p top 10. I think now the vast majority would replace Hatton with Cotto on the p4p list.

Cotto had a flying start at 147, Hatton stalled on the start line.

Cotto kills Hatton at 147, 140......I dont know maybe just maybe Hatton could swing with him but it's more a hope than a carefully weighed analysis.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Based on there last fights. Cotto has Hatton in a hospital by the 3rd round

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LOL ;D

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Wow!! I'm glad to see you guys see the light,Cotto would certainly win,but I wanted to see if anyone still disputed it..I hope Cotto calls him out,beats him and takes his spot in P4P lists! Cotto DID LOOK SENSATIONAL last night but I still want to see him in a 12 rounder,see if the stamina question is still an issue.By the looks of it,I don't think so!

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See the light? There was never no light to see. I never taught much of Hatton and always picked Cotto over him. And as for stamina issues. What stamina issues? Cotto's stamina has always been fine.

How does Cotto NOW have the far better resume? If he has a better resume now surely he had the better resume before last night? What has Quintano done?

If Hatton batters Urango does he nose back into the lead? I dont understand your logic.

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How does Cotto NOW have the far better resume? If he has a better resume now surely he had the better resume before last night? What has Quintano done?

If Hatton batters Urango does he nose back into the lead? I dont understand your logic.

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It has nothing to do with resume, but proformance. Cotto looked great at 147. Hatton didn't. And beating up Urango means little cuz he's doing it at 140 not 147. But if you still want to compare fighters, Quintana looked good beating Julio (overrated or not). Urango looked like garbage in his last fight. That simple.

Bottom line is that Cotto is a Welterweight. Even though his prior resume has all been at 140 it was to his detriment and he never showed how excellent he really was due to the tightness at the weight.

I'm an un-apologetic Hatton fan so take this all with a grain of salt. Rick would still have all the advantages at 140. Cotto just can't keep up his pace, is physically weaker and has a suspect chin. Conversely, Hatton leaves his most important advantages at 140 and would very likely get run over by Cotto at 147 (believe me, it's hard for me to admit that)

After Miguel's performance last night I move him right to the top of the 147 division. He's cleaner and crisper than Margartio (who's wide attacks would have spelled his demise had not Clottey broken his hand Saturday). I see him breaking Mayweather up over time as well at this weight.

Cotto put on 7 pounds and got quicker, more powerful, gained endurance and put it all together. No one takes him down at 147 for the next 5 years.

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Cotto KO 4. I'd give Ricky 7 rounds before getting KO'd if they met at 140.

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LMAO,you are either a big Cotto fan OR have a seveer disliking of Hatton/think he is over rated,I think I can guess which one it is. ;) How do you think he would win?

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I think Hatton is severely overrated, as you infer. I do like Cotto a lot, but just objectively I can't imagine Ricky hanging with him. Yes, Ricky hung with Tszyu, but even at his prime Tszyu didn't have power like Cotto, and Tszyu was far from prime when Ricky got to him. Cotto is more of a boxer than Tszyu is too. Not to mention considerably bigger and stronger.

For me the question is not whether Cotto could keep up with Hatton's pace, but for how long Hatton could keep up any reasonable pace while getting hit and pushed around by a much bigger and stronger man. Hatton's success depends on bullying his opponents, which he couldn't do with Cotto.

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I've always said Hatton is overratted. I defended Shza a few weeks ago when he claimed he wasn't p4p top 10. I think now the vast majority would replace Hatton with Cotto on the p4p list.

Cotto had a flying start at 147, Hatton stalled on the start line.

Cotto kills Hatton at 147, 140......I dont know maybe just maybe Hatton could swing with him but it's more a hope than a carefully weighed analysis.

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Haha that's right. In case I rudely missed you at the time, have a CC now. El Gamo, I'm throwing one your way as well.

I think most questions about hatton will be answerd when he fights Castillo. Its been to long since he beat a recognised world class fighter, hes not a WW and was right to move back down - not seen the Cotto fight yet, nyone know if it will be aird in the UK?

Someone at the cotto's forum uplaoded the whole fight.

http://www.miguelcotto.com/forum_cot...3f9bec6e95ce8b

Enjoy! 8)

Hatton will drop cotto ;D

but then...maybe im probably just over rating him ;D

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How does Cotto NOW have the far better resume? If he has a better resume now surely he had the better resume before last night? What has Quintano done?

If Hatton batters Urango does he nose back into the lead? I dont understand your logic.

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Sorry,I meant Cotto had a better resume anyway,and Quintana was the exclamation mark on that. Cotto has beaten undefeated fighters,future champs,past champs,Olympians etc etc. Hatton has beaten Collazo who is good(but Quintana KTFO the guy who KTFO Collazo),Tszyu(who some say was over the hill) anD Maussa who Cotto beat and beat a more awkward version....So yeah,I'm pretty confident in saying Cotto has a better resume and Quintana is better than most on Hatton's resume anyway you look at it....

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Wow!! I'm glad to see you guys see the light,Cotto would certainly win,but I wanted to see if anyone still disputed it..I hope Cotto calls him out,beats him and takes his spot in P4P lists! Cotto DID LOOK SENSATIONAL last night but I still want to see him in a 12 rounder,see if the stamina question is still an issue.By the looks of it,I don't think so!

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See the light? There was never no light to see. I never taught much of Hatton and always picked Cotto over him. And as for stamina issues. What stamina issues? Cotto's stamina has always been fine.

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Cotto HIMSELF has admitted to stamina issues which is why he was sayoing,he feels better at 147 and will have no more stamina issues. For example,the only rounds Malignaggi won were the rounds Cotto took off,just danced around but did not have his usual activity levels,he can't afford to do that at 147 and I don't think he will but that is what I was referring to with the issues.

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Bottom line is that Cotto is a Welterweight. Even though his prior resume has all been at 140 it was to his detriment and he never showed how excellent he really was due to the tightness at the weight.

I'm an un-apologetic Hatton fan so take this all with a grain of salt. Rick would still have all the advantages at 140. Cotto just can't keep up his pace, is physically weaker and has a suspect chin. Conversely, Hatton leaves his most important advantages at 140 and would very likely get run over by Cotto at 147 (believe me, it's hard for me to admit that)

After Miguel's performance last night I move him right to the top of the 147 division. He's cleaner and crisper than Margartio (who's wide attacks would have spelled his demise had not Clottey broken his hand Saturday). I see him breaking Mayweather up over time as well at this weight.

Cotto put on 7 pounds and got quicker, more powerful, gained endurance and put it all together. No one takes him down at 147 for the next 5 years.

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Good post mate agree 100% 8)

Cotto beats Hatton at 147 >:mad

Hatton beats Cotto at 140 :)

hatton would eat cotto for breakfast at light welter. too busy and cotto as mentioned is drained. at welter i dunno. judging on hatton's last fight against colazo and his only fight at welter and after seeing cotto in the weekend i would say cotto could stop him. but i don't realy like to judge the outcome on that cos i know hatton was no where near his best against collazo. if hatton had the time to grow into welter weight properly it could be different. i would prob still edge hatton cos the pace cotto set on saturday wasn't really that different than usual and he was still nickin his little breathers here and there. but cotto says he's never goin back down to 140 so if it happens it will be at welter and i cotto could do ricky there.

I rekon at 147 it could also depend where this fight was! we all know that hatton at 147 underatted Luiz am i the only one to think this? WE KNOW!!!!! that hatton wouldnt take this approach for a major fight with an undeafted cotto who everybody rates. Hatton would not move up straight away to 147 and this could be a weakness for him! cotto would grow into the weight more and we know that hatton did have problems at 147 and found it hard etc but problems can be fixed imo and only time would have told for hatton. imo a couple of easier fights for hatton imo would have been good!a boldomir fight would have been nice to see and we could see him again with a true 147! hatton would have to work hard for this and if he had the MEN arena behind him and stayed and matuerd at the weight...it would be a different story hatton would be focused and ready for cotto and whoever said a tko in the 3rd must be having a laugh! hatton would go out swing at least. all ive got to say is that imo hatton has done the wrong thing going to 140 and i do agree with the person who said he doesnt want the big boys. he needs to sort this quick because you dont go 41 undeafted and get tko'd in 3 rds in the biggest fight of your life...bigger than tszyu imo!

I doubt Hatton could beat Cotto at 147, it's obvious hatton doesnt belong there. Hattons best bet is to go after the likes of Castillo and Corrales. Lets not get too carried away by Cotto though i think he blows hot and cold. Someone on a another thread suggested Margarito fans will now jump ship to camp Cotto. i really hope not because Cotto will hand it to Margarito if they ever meet, and they we can all say i told you so to those Margarito bummers!!

Well,if Hatton's cam p and Hatton himself were so sure that he would grow into the weight and that the Collazo fight was an off night,I'm sure they would have stayed at 147 ESPECIALLY as there SO many big fights at 147 but they CHOSE to go back to 140,so I think that's the answer right there as to whether Hatton believes he can survive at 147.

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I doubt Hatton could beat Cotto at 147, it's obvious hatton doesnt belong there. Hattons best bet is to go after the likes of Castillo and Corrales. Lets not get too carried away by Cotto though i think he blows hot and cold. Someone on a another thread suggested Margarito fans will now jump ship to camp Cotto. i really hope not because Cotto will hand it to Margarito if they ever meet, and they we can all say i told you so to those Margarito bummers!!

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When does Cotto blow hot and cold? And being a big big fan of Margarito and Cotto,I can tell you now that Cotto would not HAND it to Margarito,it would be close. You did not see the best of Antonio Margarito last night and you asw the best of Cotto but do not judge how a fight between them would go after 1 night. Cotto is still open,Margarito has more power(he injured himself before last night's fight hence arm punches) and Margarito has astounding stamina.Cotto would have the body to aim at all night so it would be a close,great fight between the 2 best WW on the planet. Hopefully,together,they will KTFO EVERYONE else in the division!

I doubt Hatton would have beat Cotto at 140 either........at 147 Miguel would just batter Ricky.


Hatton is best left to fight Jose Luis Castillo and Diego Corrales

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Well,if Hatton's cam p and Hatton himself were so sure that he would grow into the weight and that the Collazo fight was an off night,I'm sure they would have stayed at 147 ESPECIALLY as there SO many big fights at 147 but they CHOSE to go back to 140,so I think that's the answer right there as to whether Hatton believes he can survive at 147.

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I doubt Hatton could beat Cotto at 147, it's obvious hatton doesnt belong there. Hattons best bet is to go after the likes of Castillo and Corrales. Lets not get too carried away by Cotto though i think he blows hot and cold. Someone on a another thread suggested Margarito fans will now jump ship to camp Cotto. i really hope not because Cotto will hand it to Margarito if they ever meet, and they we can all say i told you so to those Margarito bummers!!

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When does Cotto blow hot and cold? And being a big big fan of Margarito and Cotto,I can tell you now that Cotto would not HAND it to Margarito,it would be close. You did not see the best of Antonio Margarito last night and you asw the best of Cotto but do not judge how a fight between them would go after 1 night. Cotto is still open,Margarito has more power(he injured himself before last night's fight hence arm punches) and Margarito has astounding stamina.Cotto would have the body to aim at all night so it would be a close,great fight between the 2 best WW on the planet. Hopefully,together,they will KTFO EVERYONE else in the division!

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I can support what you say El gamo but at the end of the day hatton didnt lose at 147 did he? he was unprepared and risks is what you have to take in boxing so you can be the best you possibley can. Carl froch look at him big risk taker every fight and its paying off! All of you people have just lost faith in ricky :(

Funny thread ;D

God help us if Cotto ever beats anyone decent... ::**

Hatton is a better boxer p4p and would beat Cotto at 140 even before Cotto moved up. But at 147 IDK, I still think Hatton could pull it off and we do know more about Hatton than Cotto. Cotto has a weak jaw, Hatton has one of the best chances of exposing it because he can take a beating, fast, not afraid. He would keep coming, it would be a good fight.

Hatton is by no means similar to Quintana. Cotto is by no means similar to Callazo.

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Funny thread ;D

God help us if Cotto ever beats anyone decent... ::**

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Whilst I respect you as a mod,that is a dumbass statement:like I said earlier,he has beaten past champ,future champs,Olympians,guys who beat him in the amateurs,etc etc and now beat a world ranked WW who alot of peeps were picking to win.

I think it should be more help us if Hatton beats someone who is not over the hill(Tszyu,Tackie,Phillips) OR Hatton should man up,grow some balls and give Collazo a rematch like he said he would rather than run back to 140. ::**

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Well,if Hatton's cam p and Hatton himself were so sure that he would grow into the weight and that the Collazo fight was an off night,I'm sure they would have stayed at 147 ESPECIALLY as there SO many big fights at 147 but they CHOSE to go back to 140,so I think that's the answer right there as to whether Hatton believes he can survive at 147.

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I doubt Hatton could beat Cotto at 147, it's obvious hatton doesnt belong there. Hattons best bet is to go after the likes of Castillo and Corrales. Lets not get too carried away by Cotto though i think he blows hot and cold. Someone on a another thread suggested Margarito fans will now jump ship to camp Cotto. i really hope not because Cotto will hand it to Margarito if they ever meet, and they we can all say i told you so to those Margarito bummers!!

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When does Cotto blow hot and cold? And being a big big fan of Margarito and Cotto,I can tell you now that Cotto would not HAND it to Margarito,it would be close. You did not see the best of Antonio Margarito last night and you asw the best of Cotto but do not judge how a fight between them would go after 1 night. Cotto is still open,Margarito has more power(he injured himself before last night's fight hence arm punches) and Margarito has astounding stamina.Cotto would have the body to aim at all night so it would be a close,great fight between the 2 best WW on the planet. Hopefully,together,they will KTFO EVERYONE else in the division!

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I can support what you say El gamo but at the end of the day hatton didnt lose at 147 did he? he was unprepared and risks is what you have to take in boxing so you can be the best you possibley can. Carl froch look at him big risk taker every fight and its paying off! All of you people have just lost faith in ricky :(

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Dude,I think you're lost,Hatton lost faith in himself when he had a close fight(which I personally thought he won by 1) BUT rather than give Collazo a rematch,prepare himself and show the all the doubters that they were wrong,he said he would give him a rematch,took the mans title and ranking and ran back to 140, thus PROVING that there was a lack of belief either on Hatton's part or his teams that he could survive at 147.

That scenario tells me he knows he could not take the heat at 147,and you say he was unprepared,may I remind you Collazo,as good as he is(still questionable how good he actually is) is one of the lighter hitteras at 147 and Hatton out on his feet,and Collazo was fighting guys with 1-1 records like a few fights before he fought Hatton!

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Hatton is a better boxer p4p and would beat Cotto at 140 even before Cotto moved up. But at 147 IDK, I still think Hatton could pull it off and we do know more about Hatton than Cotto. Cotto has a weak jaw, Hatton has one of the best chances of exposing it because he can take a beating, fast, not afraid. He would keep coming, it would be a good fight.

Hatton is by no means similar to Quintana. Cotto is by no means similar to Callazo.

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How can Cotto have a weak jaw? He took the shots of a guy with 26 kos in 27 fights,and was not even knocked down,was puched down,and against Corley,he was out on his feet but Corley also shook PBF,and Cotto said he believes the weight affected his punch resistance. He took Quintana's shots well....

At 140,it would be close,at 147,Cotto would win easily imo which is why I don't see Hatton coming back to 147 to fight Cotto.

He was also stumbling around the ring against a man with 5 KOs :laugh:

Hatton likes to bully and push around fighters and can do so at 140.but at 147,where he cannot,and where Cotto looks bigger,he's just not effective,in fact,against Collazo,no way did he look P4P.

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He was also stumbling around the ring against a man with 5 KOs :laugh:

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??? ??? ??? ??? When? Which round?

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Hatton likes to bully and push around fighters and can do so at 140.but at 147,where he cannot,and where Cotto looks bigger,he's just not effective,in fact,against Collazo,no way did he look P4P.

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He was also stumbling around the ring against a man with 5 KOs :laugh:

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??? ??? ??? ??? When? Which round?

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Dont be a dumbass everyone saw it, the announcers saw it, he almost went down. He was running from a featherfisted Malignaggi.

Callazo had every advantage on Hatton, tall, southpaw, bigger, prepared.

Hatton took the fight on 6 weeks notice to put on 7lbs. Thats not enough time to adapt.

Cotto Quintana was a mismatch from the start, it was only hyped because they were both undefeated but come on NOONE expected Quintana to last. "If Cotto cant cut off the ring...." Please.

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Hatton likes to bully and push around fighters and can do so at 140.but at 147,where he cannot,and where Cotto looks bigger,he's just not effective,in fact,against Collazo,no way did he look P4P.

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He was also stumbling around the ring against a man with 5 KOs :laugh:

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??? ??? ??? ??? When? Which round?

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Dont be a dumbass everyone saw it, the announcers saw it, he almost went down. He was running from a featherfisted Malignaggi.

Callazo had every advantage on Hatton, tall, southpaw, bigger, prepared.

Hatton took the fight on 6 weeks notice to put on 7lbs. Thats not enough time to adapt.

Cotto Quintana was a mismatch from the start, it was only hyped because they were both undefeated but come on NOONE expected Quintana to last. "If Cotto cant cut off the ring...." Please.

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That is the biggest dumbass stament I have ever read,Cotto running from Paulie??

Collazo having ever advantege? So,the way Hatton was hyped after the Tszyu fight,you'd think he would have won much easier against a ligh hitting,pitter patter puncher at 147. And like I said,if Hatton was inadequately prepared,why did he not prepare more,give him a rematch and PROVE that he could bet him more comfotably? Easy,because he knew he could not......

And to say Cotto QuINTANA was a mismatch,is the biggest pile of shat I have read here in a while...lost of peeps were picking Quintana to win,fans and experts alike. Quintana knocked out a guy who koed Collazo,Cassiani I think. Quintana had more power,more skill and just as slick as Collazo...

No Hatton fan on this forum has answered,if Hatton was at such a disadvantage and if he really is such a warrior and a great fighter,why did he not rematch Collazo? Why did he run back to 140 so quickly??

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Funny thread ;D

God help us if Cotto ever beats anyone decent... ::**

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Whilst I respect you as a mod,that is a dumbass statement:like I said earlier,he has beaten past champ,future champs,Olympians,guys who beat him in the amateurs,etc etc and now beat a world ranked WW who alot of peeps were picking to win.

I think it should be more help us if Hatton beats someone who is not over the hill(Tszyu,Tackie,Phillips) OR Hatton should man up,grow some balls and give Collazo a rematch like he said he would rather than run back to 140. ::**

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Well,if Hatton's cam p and Hatton himself were so sure that he would grow into the weight and that the Collazo fight was an off night,I'm sure they would have stayed at 147 ESPECIALLY as there SO many big fights at 147 but they CHOSE to go back to 140,so I think that's the answer right there as to whether Hatton believes he can survive at 147.

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Originally Posted by ricky_hitman

I doubt Hatton could beat Cotto at 147, it's obvious hatton doesnt belong there. Hattons best bet is to go after the likes of Castillo and Corrales. Lets not get too carried away by Cotto though i think he blows hot and cold. Someone on a another thread suggested Margarito fans will now jump ship to camp Cotto. i really hope not because Cotto will hand it to Margarito if they ever meet, and they we can all say i told you so to those Margarito bummers!!

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When does Cotto blow hot and cold? And being a big big fan of Margarito and Cotto,I can tell you now that Cotto would not HAND it to Margarito,it would be close. You did not see the best of Antonio Margarito last night and you asw the best of Cotto but do not judge how a fight between them would go after 1 night. Cotto is still open,Margarito has more power(he injured himself before last night's fight hence arm punches) and Margarito has astounding stamina.Cotto would have the body to aim at all night so it would be a close,great fight between the 2 best WW on the planet. Hopefully,together,they will KTFO EVERYONE else in the division!

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I can support what you say El gamo but at the end of the day hatton didnt lose at 147 did he? he was unprepared and risks is what you have to take in boxing so you can be the best you possibley can. Carl froch look at him big risk taker every fight and its paying off! All of you people have just lost faith in ricky :(

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Dude,I think you're lost,Hatton lost faith in himself when he had a close fight(which I personally thought he won by 1) BUT rather than give Collazo a rematch,prepare himself and show the all the doubters that they were wrong,he said he would give him a rematch,took the mans title and ranking and ran back to 140, thus PROVING that there was a lack of belief either on Hatton's part or his teams that he could survive at 147.

That scenario tells me he knows he could not take the heat at 147,and you say he was unprepared,may I remind you Collazo,as good as he is(still questionable how good he actually is) is one of the lighter hitteras at 147 and Hatton out on his feet,and Collazo was fighting guys with 1-1 records like a few fights before he fought Hatton!

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Hatton is a better boxer p4p and would beat Cotto at 140 even before Cotto moved up. But at 147 IDK, I still think Hatton could pull it off and we do know more about Hatton than Cotto. Cotto has a weak jaw, Hatton has one of the best chances of exposing it because he can take a beating, fast, not afraid. He would keep coming, it would be a good fight.

Hatton is by no means similar to Quintana. Cotto is by no means similar to Callazo.

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How can Cotto have a weak jaw? He took the shots of a guy with 26 kos in 27 fights,and was not even knocked down,was puched down,and against Corley,he was out on his feet but Corley also shook PBF,and Cotto said he believes the weight affected his punch resistance. He took Quintana's shots well....

At 140,it would be close,at 147,Cotto would win easily imo which is why I don't see Hatton coming back to 147 to fight Cotto.

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So to sum up in a nutshell your saying luiz is shite? i dont think he is! at the end of the day he was a world champ and you can say that about lots of people building their records on bums! you cant face amazing people every fight! you have to build it up to the bigger fights and in luiz's case the fight built up to hatton. Hatton imo thinks he cant do much at 147 because he didnt rate luiz...nobody did but only the future can tell what is going to happen with him. If hatton stayed at 147 he could imo be safe and build to wanting the tougher fighters ie cotto! When you look at cotto his record isnt exactly OUTSTANDING! his oppanants are up comers ie torres and mallianagi. but if hatton had time to devlop into 147 he could do well imo

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Hatton likes to bully and push around fighters and can do so at 140.but at 147,where he cannot,and where Cotto looks bigger,he's just not effective,in fact,against Collazo,no way did he look P4P.

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He was also stumbling around the ring against a man with 5 KOs :laugh:

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??? ??? ??? ??? When? Which round?

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Dont be a dumbass everyone saw it, the announcers saw it, he almost went down. He was running from a featherfisted Malignaggi.

Callazo had every advantage on Hatton, tall, southpaw, bigger, prepared.

Hatton took the fight on 6 weeks notice to put on 7lbs. Thats not enough time to adapt.

Cotto Quintana was a mismatch from the start, it was only hyped because they were both undefeated but come on NOONE expected Quintana to last. "If Cotto cant cut off the ring...." Please.

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That is the biggest dumbass stament I have ever read,Cotto running from Paulie??

Collazo having ever advantege? So,the way Hatton was hyped after the Tszyu fight,you'd think he would have won much easier against a ligh hitting,pitter patter puncher at 147. And like I said,if Hatton was inadequately prepared,why did he not prepare more,give him a rematch and PROVE that he could bet him more comfotably? Easy,because he knew he could not......

And to say Cotto QuINTANA was a mismatch,is the biggest pile of shat I have read here in a while...lost of peeps were picking Quintana to win,fans and experts alike. Quintana knocked out a guy who koed Collazo,Cassiani I think. Quintana had more power,more skill and just as slick as Collazo...

No Hatton fan on this forum has answered,if Hatton was at such a disadvantage and if he really is such a warrior and a great fighter,why did he not rematch Collazo? Why did he run back to 140 so quickly??

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ill tell you why! the money! hatton-collazo at 147 doesnt draw to many people in. thats why i dont understand he is going back to 140! he needs to go searching for cotto!

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Hatton likes to bully and push around fighters and can do so at 140.but at 147,where he cannot,and where Cotto looks bigger,he's just not effective,in fact,against Collazo,no way did he look P4P.

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He was also stumbling around the ring against a man with 5 KOs :laugh:

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??? ??? ??? ??? When? Which round?

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Dont be a dumbass everyone saw it, the announcers saw it, he almost went down. He was running from a featherfisted Malignaggi.

Callazo had every advantage on Hatton, tall, southpaw, bigger, prepared.

Hatton took the fight on 6 weeks notice to put on 7lbs. Thats not enough time to adapt.

Cotto Quintana was a mismatch from the start, it was only hyped because they were both undefeated but come on NOONE expected Quintana to last. "If Cotto cant cut off the ring...." Please.

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That is the biggest dumbass stament I have ever read,Cotto running from Paulie??

Collazo having ever advantege? So,the way Hatton was hyped after the Tszyu fight,you'd think he would have won much easier against a ligh hitting,pitter patter puncher at 147. And like I said,if Hatton was inadequately prepared,why did he not prepare more,give him a rematch and PROVE that he could bet him more comfotably? Easy,because he knew he could not......

And to say Cotto QuINTANA was a mismatch,is the biggest pile of shat I have read here in a while...lost of peeps were picking Quintana to win,fans and experts alike. Quintana knocked out a guy who koed Collazo,Cassiani I think. Quintana had more power,more skill and just as slick as Collazo...

No Hatton fan on this forum has answered,if Hatton was at such a disadvantage and if he really is such a warrior and a great fighter,why did he not rematch Collazo? Why did he run back to 140 so quickly??

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Well when you put a boxer in the ring with a brawler its normally the boxer that is useing hit and run tactics, if you got your head out of your ass and watched the fight you would see that Paulie was pushing the action AND COTTO WAS BACKING AWAY! Honestly its not a bash or anything it worked for him look he won! But he was running from Paulie. I dont think Paulie took a single step back the entire fight.

You dont know boxing if you dont understand stlyes I shouldnt have to tell you thins. Hatton is short for fighting at junior welter and he was tiny at Welter. Hattons style is to be relentless and just putconstant pressure on his opponets. Hatton DOES NOT DO WELL AGAINST SOUTHPAWS, OR TALL FIGHERS! Yet he still beat Callazo by a round and a KD. You cant compare Cottos and Hattons last preformances because they were against two opposite type fighters and are irrelevant.

Here dumbass, I actually appreciate styles when judging a fight. This is what I said with Hatton before the Callazo fight. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...55#post1460255

I said the same thing I said now.

Im no Hatton fan but Ill tell you why he wont rematch Callazo, because hes the bigger name and he won (duh, noone gives a shit about Callazo even if he is a gifted boxer that could potentially beat Hatton an atleast give him his toughest fight, more so that Cotto due to styles), he had a small frame at Welterweight which almost costed him a fight, hes a stylistic nightmere to the Hitman, and not much money.

Come on bro thats common sense what did you expect me to say?

Cotto would destroy Hatton at 147 (unless it was in Manchester). Look, Hatton is great at 140, although I think Castillo will take him out. This fact remains though, Cotto is naturally bigger he is more comfortable at 147, I don't think Hatton can carry the extra weight well, although I doubt he will come back up ever so we will never know. The only reason for Hatton to move back up should be to give Collazo a rematch.

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Cotto would destroy Hatton at 147 (unless it was in Manchester).

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;D Unbelievalble.

You have a point if your saying Cotto would just edge Hatton out. We have our fair share of dodgy decisions and officiating like anyone else. But I have yet to see a fighter propped up by referee, cornermen etc etc in order to avoid 'being destroyed'