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R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
THE BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME?????
Damn straight! at a combined weight of over 600 lbs its the biggest!
The clash of the NEW ERA of SUPER heavyweights!!
Current WBA champion
Nikolai Valuev Undefeated 45 Wins with 33 ko's
Listed at 7'0 1/2" but said to be closer to 7'3"
consistant weight around 330 lbs
reach 85"
Recent key wins over
Monte (2 guns) Barrett 31-4-0
Owen Beck 25-2-0
John Ruiz 45-5-1
Larry Donald 42-3-3
Clifford Etienne 29-3-2
Attila Levin 29-2-0
Gerald Nobles 24-0-0
Paolo Vidoz 17-1-0
Ricard Bango 16-0-0
(wba International Heavyweight Title fight)
Combined record of opponents last 9 fights??
227-16-6 or an average of about 25-2-0!!
Padded record??? doesn't look like it to me!
Heavyweights or any fighters don't give up undefeated records easily!
They know if they can keep an undefeated record alive they will get noticed and a chance at some real $$$ These guys didn't fight 25 wins to go in and lay down for a few measly bucks!
Russian,Pan-Asian,WBA Intercontinental and now WBA World Heavyweight Champion
This guy is not a sideshow freak or some kind of get rich quick joke!
Hes well conditioned,hits hard with both hands and has good consistant punch output and has proven that he can take a punch
Been fighting as a PRo since 1993!
NOW!! Jameel McCline!! 38-6-3, reach of 82" only 3" less than Valuev
Seasoned Veteran 6'6" consistant 270 lbs re-commitment to HW title goal shows in Current 6 fight win streak, last 6 wins opponents combined records? 148-72-6 take out Marcus Rhode 30-29 -2
and they look better at 118-43-4 or an average of 24-7-1
The BIG Question?? Can he handle the bigger Valuev????
If ANYONE can ...HE CAN!!! HERES WHY!!
McCline has been the TEST the "stepping stone"for many BIG heavies trying to prove themselves...what happened to them??
Eddie Richardson 6'6" 240 lbs LOST!
King Ipitan 6'5" 224lbs KO 1!
Micheal Grant 31-1-0 6'7" 254lbs 86"reach TKO1!
Lance Whitaker 23-1-0 6'8" 250 lb 84"reach LOST!
Shannon Briggs??? current NABA,
USBA,NABO AND WBO CHAMPION??? 6'4" 270lbs LOST!
the only guy he couldn't stop? maybe you've heard of him.......Wladimir Klitchko gave him 10 hard fought rounds!!
This COULD be a really great fight! A Fight that grabs the imagination of the general public,gets people in bars talking "did you hear about this 7' tall Russian???? MAYBE.....just what the HW division needs!!
Lets all hope!!
How do you see the fight playing out????
Come on! put your nads on the line and speak up!!!
Free beer on me (hey mucho can i borrow your credit card) when we meet in Vegas for the person with the closest prediction.
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
He couldnt stop Chris Byrd or Calvin Brock either.
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
How easy is it to beat the guys on Nicolay Valuev's record????
It's so easy, A CAVEMAN could do it!
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
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Originally Posted by Lyle
How easy is it to beat the guys on Nicolay Valuev's record????
It's so easy, A CAVEMAN could do it!
haha sad but so very true. How can a 7ft freak who has fought shite competition be at the top of the most famous division. Sign of the times really, RIP the heavyweight division.
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
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Originally Posted by Lyle
How easy is it to beat the guys on Nicolay Valuev's record????
It's so easy, A CAVEMAN could do it!
Well with a combined record of 227 wins and 16 losses i guess not so easy huh??? At least not for those 227 guys who got their asses kicked by them!!
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
Do you honestly believe those records.....Beck's is bullshit who's the best he's ever beaten? Monte Barrett was good but oh the things A YEAR OFF OF BOXING WILL DO! John Ruiz and Larry Donald (more Larry than John) really gave Valuev a hard nights work and I think they could have at least drawn with Nicolay here in the US.
Valuev is a sham and I hope he gets knocked the fuck out because he deserves it
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
He should beat MCcline and then get Ko by Wlad.
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
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Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
He should beat MCcline and then get Ko by Wlad.
Valuev fought good fighters. Have some respect for these guys; they are surely serious boxers. Valuev is very hard to beat. He is better than ever. I suspect McLine is a mini Klitschko to test the waters for Valuev.
I recommend he take the real test after this one. Peter, Toney, Maskaev, Klit, Lyakovich, or Sanders.
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
He couldnt stop Chris Byrd or Calvin Brock either.
:thumb:
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
I don't care what the records of his opponents are, their records are misleading too. Valuev's record is padded and thats the end of it. He won a disputable draw against ruiz and hasn't defended it against anyone that could even remotely be considered a contender by someone in their right mind.
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
the biggest fight in history? literally
the teaser should be 'KING KONG vs. GODZILLA'
or 'frankie vs big foot'
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
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Originally Posted by the_answer
the biggest fight in history? literally
the teaser should be 'KING KONG vs. GODZILLA'
or 'frankie vs big foot'
OR something more simple like battle of the giants
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
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Originally Posted by Puya
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Originally Posted by the_answer
the biggest fight in history? literally
the teaser should be 'KING KONG vs. GODZILLA'
or 'frankie vs big foot'
OR something more simple like battle of the giants
one word. FREAKS. simple as that
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
Well one thing i will say.... Valuev hasn't gone around running his mouth and saying he's all this or that. He's worked hard and been a consistant performer. He hasn't said he's ready or at the level of the very extreme elite of the heavyweight division (I'm refferring of course to James Toney) What does the future hold?
Maskaev/Okhello--- Maskaev
Toney/Peter --- Toney
Briggs/Ibragimov ---Briggs
Valuev/McCline ---Valuev
Maskaev/Toney ---Toney
Valuev/Briggs ----Valuev
Toney/Valuev ---Valuev
In a close fight were Toney shows up out weighing the giant Russian
This would set up the huge fight between Valuev and Klitschko
unfortunately Klitschko foolishly has a tune up with "THE REAL DEAL"
EVANDER HOLYFIELD and get KO'D the F@CK OUT!! Flying out of the ring and landing smack into the middle of "Klitschko fan's" lap who breaks down crying.
leaving Valuev to beat the poor little aging ex Lightheavy Evander into retirement and become the Undisputed champion of the world with a record of 49-0!!!
HEY!! IT COULD HAPPEN!!!! LMAO!!
Oh ya one more thing...hey LYLE.... Valuev wants to know if the top of your head is flat enough for him to rest a beer on......
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
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Originally Posted by landmine950
Well one thing i will say.... Valuev hasn't gone around running his mouth and saying he's all this or that. He's worked hard and been a consistant performer. He hasn't said he's ready or at the level of the very extreme elite of the heavyweight division (I'm refferring of course to James Toney) What does the future hold?
Maskaev/Okhello--- Maskaev
Toney/Peter --- Toney
Briggs/Ibragimov ---Briggs
Valuev/McCline ---Valuev
Maskaev/Toney ---Toney
Valuev/Briggs ----Valuev
Toney/Valuev ---Valuev
In a close fight were Toney shows up out weighing the giant Russian
This would set up the huge fight between Valuev and Klitschko
unfortunately Klitschko foolishly has a tune up with "THE REAL DEAL"
EVANDER HOLYFIELD and get KO'D the F@CK OUT!! Flying out of the ring and landing smack into the middle of "Klitschko fan's" lap who breaks down crying.
leaving Valuev to beat the poor little aging ex Lightheavy Evander into retirement and become the Undisputed champion of the world with a record of 49-0!!!
HEY!! IT COULD HAPPEN!!!! LMAO!!
Oh ya one more thing...hey LYLE.... Valuev wants to know if the top of your head is flat enough for him to rest a beer on......
He hasn't gone around running his mouth because he doesn't even speak russian he speaks caveman. It's easy to be a consistant performer when you're facing bums.
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
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Originally Posted by spine_buster
Valuev still untested
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Originally Posted by spine_buster
Valuev still untested
No.. he's been tested. He tested positive for gorilla growth hormones
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
I love how this guy makes a career out of fighting absolute bums and he still has his devoted fans who think he's just the greatest ever.....you know landmine Valuev couldn't even beat Butterbean much less ANY of the title holders or top teir contenders.
Valuev got rocked by Monte motherfucking Barrett....Monte Barrett dude! No wonder he picked McCline to fight against he's got even LESS power than Barrett
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I love how this guy makes a career out of fighting absolute bums and he still has his devoted fans who think he's just the greatest ever.....you know landmine Valuev couldn't even beat Butterbean much less ANY of the title holders or top teir contenders.
Valuev got rocked by Monte motherfucking Barrett....Monte Barrett dude! No wonder he picked McCline to fight against he's got even LESS power than Barrett
dude i dont like valuev at all
but he dropped monte using a left jab right?
yah hes right hand looks suspicous but wtf is with that jab?
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
REMARKABLE! ;D
Hahaha, that looks more like Hobson V Duran ;D
:coolclick: for making me laugh out loud at work! ;D
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
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Originally Posted by spine_buster
Valuev still untesticled
So when will he get those balls? ;D
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
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Originally Posted by ThE eRaSeRhEaD
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Originally Posted by spine_buster
Valuev still untesticled
So when will he get those balls? ;D
Barrett,Ruiz and Donald are all solid guys. Im not saying the guys is there yet. I think his boxing skills are still crude at best. But if he learns how to box....even a bit.........Ya gotta think about it....7'3"!! 345lbs...
Its got me interested even if just for the novelty. MOst of the current heavies arnt very skillful either. Maskeav,Briggs,Peter are just strong guys and no more skilled than donald,ruiz or barrett, just bigger and stronger and i dont think that will be any advantage against Valuev. I only see Klitschko beating him BUT even that.....Klit tires,runs out of gas, can be KO'd. Maybe the giant tires him out bad??? Vlad waited till round 5 to even throw a right hand againt brock. Punching up...wwwaayyyyy up might make a big differance. I dunno...i wrote the guy off at first as a freak bum,but i watched a bunch of tapes on him.....im interested now!!
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
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Originally Posted by the_answer
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I love how this guy makes a career out of fighting absolute bums and he still has his devoted fans who think he's just the greatest ever.....you know landmine Valuev couldn't even beat Butterbean much less ANY of the title holders or top teir contenders.
Valuev got rocked by Monte motherfucking Barrett....Monte Barrett dude! No wonder he picked McCline to fight against he's got even LESS power than Barrett
dude i dont like valuev at all
but he dropped monte using a left jab right?
yah hes right hand looks suspicous but wtf is with that jab?
Caveman's club jab
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Re: R U Ready 4 the BIGGEST FIGHT OF ALL TIME???? Valuev vs McCline
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Originally Posted by landmine950
Barrett,Ruiz and Donald are all solid guys. Im not saying the guys is there yet. I think his boxing skills are still crude at best. But if he learns how to box....even a bit.........Ya gotta think about it....7'3"!! 345lbs...
Its got me interested even if just for the novelty. MOst of the current heavies arnt very skillful either. Maskeav,Briggs,Peter are just strong guys and no more skilled than donald,ruiz or barrett, just bigger and stronger and i dont think that will be any advantage against Valuev. I only see Klitschko beating him BUT even that.....Klit tires,runs out of gas, can be KO'd. Maybe the giant tires him out bad??? Vlad waited till round 5 to even throw a right hand againt brock. Punching up...wwwaayyyyy up might make a big differance. I dunno...i wrote the guy off at first as a freak bum,but i watched a bunch of tapes on him.....im interested now!!
Larry Donald BEAT Valuev, John Ruiz could have drawn with him
Monte Barrett while a good fighter was out of boxing for a YEAR and he still ROCKED Nicolay Valuev to the point Nicky's knees buckled.
I see anyone with power beating Valuev...Briggs he's fucking perfect for Briggs he's big slow and easy to hit and he's got no power to counter with....Briggs would have him out fast
Wlad would KO him easy
Sam Peter would have a good shot at him but he's not the best technical fighter...Joe Mesi (pre injury) would have had a better shot because his punches were shorter and quicker
A young guy like Chazz Witherspoon, an old guy who can take the punches like Oliver McCall those guys would beat Valuev.
Nicolay is not terrible but in my opinion he doesn't deserve to hold a title