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Imo i rate calzaghe as the best boxer, this country has ever produced. Some people may not agree with me, :'( When super fights are mentioned the like's of hopkins, jones jr, all want to much money. :o You may say who has he fought. Well he has fought who was put infront of him, that is all he can do remember he fights for money that is what the pro game is about. :D 20 defences what more can you say ???.
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Originally Posted by Counter
No Joe C is not the best ever produced from there
Hey DaxxKahn he is the best boxer ever to come from WALES
Did you just sad click me BTW?
I would say Jimmie "The Mighty Atom" Wilde was the best from Wales
Yeah, well they were trying to put Kessler in front of him for 3.4 million and the coward said no. And 20 defenses of the WBO title mean nothing. And yes I did sc you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Counter
Speaking of :sadclick: Good Evening and have #4 My BruthaQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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All Hail The King of Wales!
Behold! The Destruction of Peter Manfredo Jr. is coming.
;D
Peter Manfredo Jr. said in an interview that he is not Jeff Lacy, he went on to add that he is not one dimmensional like Jeff.
Peter is right. He is no Jeff Lacy and Joe Calzaghe is going to knock out Peter in 3 rounds ;D
Shame on Peter for talking shiet about Jeff Lacy when Peter was ducking Jeff before he was beat by Calzaghe. What comes around goes around and he will have egg and blood on his face March 3rd.
:o
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Originally Posted by Counter
Welsh dragon ??? NO Welsh chicken ;D YES
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Welll this is tricky for me. I think Joe is very talented and a great fighter which i like, but im getting fooking pissed off with the fights he is taking right now. Sadio Bika ??? Peter Manfredo ??? what a waste of time Joe! Honestly if he retired after Manfredo i would refuse to recognise him as great. Simple as that!
You know every 25 posts or so you actually make some sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by cockey cockney
I think even the posters who are considered haters (myself probably included) recognize, that Calzaghe is very talented. Whether his talent is enough to justify his claim to be the best SMW at the moment remains to be seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by cockey cockney
But due to Joe's choices and behaviour throughout his career, it is very hard for some of us to really show him the respect (that he may or may not deserve), that his talent seems to warrant.
Yeah, I agree. The fact that I don't like him doesn't mean he can't fight. Or is untalented. I've never once denied the mans skills. I deny his heart and his claim to greatness.Quote:
Originally Posted by dumdane
You can usually tell the armchair fans from the real boxing people out there.
Anyone who trains for months before a fight, puts their body and soul on the line at training camp, performs in front of millions, risks humiliation and permanent damage, accepts that they are going to get hit, hurt, tired and scarred .......... these fighters may be many things, but cowardly is not one of them
There are many fighters I dislike, some that I don't think are very good (and some who I don't like just because of their poster fans on this site (!), but I would not think of them as cowards.
The day that I would personally feel no fear stepping into a ring with an unbeaten, hyped, musclebound undefeated world champion and top-class amateur like Jeff Lacy is the day I am qualified to call Joe Calzaghe a coward.
Shame on you all. This is not what fans do. By demeaning our fighters, we demean our own sport.
.... and I don't care how many anonymous sadclicks I get from all the non-cowards out there.
Joe has the ability
He needs to use it
I don't think he is scared to use it but he is definitely padding his record to try and break Joe Louis's defence record.
No shame on you. It's posters like you who always go back to same excuse when you run out of excuses to defend your fighters cowardliness. Every fighter gets credit for stepping in the ring. That goes without saying. Once there in the ring there suppose to face the best and try to make the most money possible for themselves. Kessler is consider the biggest rival in Calzaghe's division. 3.4 million would be the most Calzaghe's ever made. He doesn't want the fight. Why? Cuz Kessler is not shot like most of the known names on Calzaghe's record? Is it cuz he's not some obscure scrub like a lot of the names on Joe's record? Or is it cuz he's scared? I say he's scared. And yes I did sc your ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
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Originally Posted by Kel
No Kel I did not sad click you...I would tell you if I did....I never sad click someone because of their opinion I only sad click if someone is acting like an ass....Here is a CC to help even out the one you got though ;)
TO X I AGREE,boxing is a hard game my son has boxed as amateur it take,s some ball,s to get in that ring so. My hat goe,s off to anyone that doe,s good luck to them ALL ;D ;D ;D ;D
No way VD - you're usually quite funny, but you've got this one wrong. I do not go back to any excuse to defend anyone - you will not find me anywhere claiming Calzaghe is the best thing since Roy Jones. I just disagree with people talking tough and calling any fighter a coward. I will criticise a fighter's style, record and everything, but I wouldn't presume to call him a coward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
That's not very tough talk really, to sit on a computer somewhere, posting anonymously on a website, calling any internationally recognised combat sportsman a coward?
Boxing history is full of dream matchups that never happened, that does not make people cowards.
Perhaps you find it cathartic to spout stuff on here, like you seem to have been doing recently. What happened to the VD who was funny and knowledgeable?
You naughty man ;)
And, no, I didn't sc you because I am clearly a saint.
My my, what a lovely colourfull discussion we have going on here tonight! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by X
Calzaghe (to my knowledge) is the greatest Welsh export next to the great man himself...
Mr.Tom Jones 8)
(who is firmly number one one reason and one reason only.........)
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.... Anyway, with that cleared up, im glad X made his comments.
I personally, have a very hard time liking Calzaghe, however i could never call him a coward.
Calzaghe obviously wants to close his career in the U.S on HBO in front of millions of viewers. I am one who would love to debate this move, but as ive just said... I would never call him a coward.
Thats just outright ignorance. :-\
i agree. J.Calzaghe whips ass. He will beat down Manfredo and then hopefully fight a megafight with Taylor, Hopkins or Kessel.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
I normally skip through your posts 'coz you haven proven your self to be the biggest hypocrite and racist on this board, but this one is to funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
You clearly have a problem with British fighters for some unknown reason. when it was posted how hopkins priced him self out of a career high pay day with Calzaghe IN THE US u defended hopkins, claimed that it wasn't enough even tho it was more than he ever made! When Roy Jones reportedly turned down over $5mill to fight him, again you claimed it wasn't enough, that Roy Jones was totally in the right and Warren/Calzaghe didn't wanna really fight RJJ... If you were of the same opinion to the Americans who have chosen to 'pass' on better fighers, id still think your An a sshole for your comments made, but you'd have respect 'coz you would ad least be str8 as a die and not the hypocrite u clearly are now.
Its to funny, i can totally understand people getting pissed about him not taking kessler, but to go all out claiming his scare dof him, that calzaghe is a Coward 'coz he has chosen for the first time in his career to fight someone who is considered a much lesser fighter BUT a bigger name in the US.
Calzaghe could fight and beat Kessler, Hopkins then Taylor and you would find an excuse for everyone, thats why the Manfredo fight is aimed at the 'general' Americans, 'coz idiots like you would only ever pa to watch him fight if you were certain he was about to lose.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D SPOT ON :o :o :o :P :P :P
I still say Jimmie Wilde was a better Welsh fighter than Calzaghe.
Jimmie was 44-0-2, 2 years into his career.
COLIN JONES :laugh:
Why :o? not dissagreeing;) just curious as to why?Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
NEVER SEEN HIM FIGHT ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Because he was a monster in his division JCC style 133-4-2 (99 KOs)Quote:
Originally Posted by Preme
He had more ring time than Joe 2 years into his career and was undefeated in that time. He fought everyone he could even if the fights were only days apart. He went 91 fights before taking in his first loss.
1911-12-30 Young Jennings 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W PTS 12 12
1911-12-20 Ted Roberts 0-2-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 4 0
1911-12-12 Young Towell 0-1-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-11-20 Young Rice 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 4 0
1911-11-11 Young Towell 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 4 0
1911-10-30 Young Sam Langford 2-2-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 2 0
1911-10-20 Young Powell 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-10-10 Joe Rogers 1-2-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 5 0
1911-09-20 Ted Powell 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-09-09 Young Avent 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 4 0
1911-08-26 Dick Jenkins 0-2-0
Millfield A,C,, Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 11 0
1911-08-15 Jim Easton 0-0-0
Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland W PTS 10 10
1911-08-08 Fred Chappell 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W PTS 6 6
1911-07-07 Steve Thomas 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-06-20 Kid Morris 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W PTS 6 6
1911-06-03 Billy Brown 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 4 0
1911-05-25 Ted Roberts 0-1-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 2 0
1911-05-15 Archie Grant 0-1-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-05-05 Dai Roberts 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-04-20 Billy Papke 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-04-10 Eddie Thomas 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 2 0
1911-04-04 Archie Grant 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-03-20 Dai Thomas 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-03-09 Dick Jenkins 0-1-0
Cardiff, Wales W PTS 6 6
1911-02-18 George Lake 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales D PTS 6 6
1911-02-02 Kid Pearson 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 2 6
1911-01-20 Dai Jones 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales D PTS 6 6
1911-01-10 Dick Jenkins 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W PTS 6 6
1911-01-01 Ted Roberts 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 6
Look at what this maniac did in one year!!
His first full year as a pro.
This is something that makes me mad about fighters nowadays.
They hardly ever fight. 2-3 times a year tops for title holders.
;D ;D HELL I AM 46 I DONT THINK I AM 146 COME ON ??? ???
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You asked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Counter
I find it funny that you would compare Calzaghe to Jones. How is that even the same? Jones has names on his resume. He's tooken chances. When has Calzaghe ever had? All he does is talk and and talk but about fighting big names but never does. And it's always somebody else's fault but his own. And it's stupid groupies like you who excuse his behavior. The Kessler fight and 3.4 million was right there in front of him. 3.4 million! More than he's ever made. But you ignore that. That's why the Manfredo fight is okay with you. Because all you want for Calzaghe is a fight that you'll know he'll win. Fuck taking chances. He's never tooken one in his career, why start now. All you have to do is look at Calzaghe's record and you'll see he's always chosen to fight lesser fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Preme
joe.c sukx...for a undefeated fighter...only name that stands out is jeff lacy???...and this guy came up to p4p top ten bkuz he whoop lacy??? only gain joe.c got really is the overhype lacy had...now joe.c is the overhyped fighter...I`ll be impress if he was whooping guys in the u.s his whole career...we all know u.s has the best competition in the whole world...why didn't he come to fight in the u.s back then??? why just now??? and his next oppenent is manfredo wtf what is he gonna gain from that fight? what a dumba$s...I don't get this guy...
people are saying jones and hopkins ducked him??? who knew this guy back when jones and hopkins was p4p kings? I mean seriously whales is the only place that talk about joe.c...if he whoop some1 good then he would of got mentioned more and he should of brought his a$s in the u.s to prove how good he is...instead of staying in his little hometown...now his suppose to be soooo good since his undefeated??? hopkins and jones would toy with this guy...he should be thankfull he never fought either of those two kuz if he did :'( poor joe.c fans...
this guy doesn't deserve to be mentioned with the likes of jones jr and bhop...
Come on hopkins and jones have fought some crap opponents. I think your being a hypocrite and if joe does not want to fight in the state's so what ;D Watching hopkins fight is like watching paint drying.... >:mad Rjjr he remind me of bugs bunny cause hes always running......... >:mad it seems to me that they call jones a great fighter after he beat emm... what was his name ??? ??? ??? John Ruiz...... Hardly lennox lewis, whos hopkins fought ??? someone who started off at super feather dl hoya. If joe does not want to fight in the USA its not the end of the world, why is it you think everybody has to fight in america. ;)
If you want to compare hopkins is no hagler, that is for sure.
Rjjr is no michael spinks.
i have just mentioned two better fighter's now better than either jones or hopkins. Joe has got good hand speed, a very good chin, and he is very un ortherdox. 8) He was a very good ametaur winning 3 aba championship's at 3 different weights. You seem to forget he beat a very good fighter to be champion called Chris Eubank. Tougher than rjjr and hopkins put together. :o
Sorry VD mate, but you're talking out of your arse again bro....they were trying to put him in front of Kessler hundreds of miles from where he has fought most of his fight, in front of a crowd who would probably help Kessler to 3 or 4 points on the cards before it starts from the home advantage. Why would a champion put himself and his title at risk like that? Look at the other p4pers and how many of the others have turned their backs on their fanbase to go fight in different countries, apart from Manny Pac, who made the big bucks in the states, and Winky Wright who came the hard way through the ranks, they've all stayed near their fanbases. The americans never left their country to fight, and the Mexicans have stayed in Latin America and the US, so wtf do you expect Calzaghe to leave the UK? See counter's previous accusation of hypocrisy, and add my name to that list, cause you are bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Anyhow, back to the question of Welsh boxers, Calzaghe has to be right up there with the aforementioned Jimmy Wilde, but also Tommy Farr, who took on the legends of Joe Louis, Jim Braddock, Max Baer and went the distance each time, in the US.
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Yes they have but thwey also have dominated some good ones...Not supermiddleweight good either HOF good
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
Kessler has done that in Australia against Mundine
Yes, but Mundine is not in the elite class of SMW's that Kessler and Calzaghe are, and anyone that thinks otherwise is sorely misguided or an Australian ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jangeorg
i like joe but jones has beaten better fighters just to name a fewQuote:
Originally Posted by Counter
virgil hill
james toney
bernard hopkins
clinton woods
glen kelly
montel griffin
and for hopkins
howard eastman
felix trinidad
oscar dela hoya
william joppy
i personally feel hopkins hasnt fought that much better opp than calzaghe but 3 of them names wipe floor with calzaghe opp to be honest