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Video of the Fighter I Think KOs Both Oscar and Floyd at 154!
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;D I go with that not the best Chin to good for those 2 ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Oscar would whip Terrible Terry Norris....you're talking about a guy who took the best Tito Trinidad had to offer
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Oscar would whip Terrible Terry Norris....you're talking about a guy who took the best Tito Trinidad had to offer
Took the best Tito had to offer ::** Dude, the guy ran like Justin Gatlin on steroids the entire fight, against a fighter mind you who was completely one-dimensional. Norris could box his @ss off and was a natural born superwelterweight, who was both stronger and faster than Oscar at 154. Norris blazes De la Hoya.
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Nah!! he would probably end up getting DQ'd, I like to refer to Terry as the 'Mini-Golota'.......
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Oscar would whip Terrible Terry Norris....you're talking about a guy who took the best Tito Trinidad had to offer
Took the best Tito had to offer ::** Dude, the guy ran like Justin Gatlin on steroids the entire fight, against a fighter mind you who was completely one-dimensional. Norris could box his @ss off and was a natural born superwelterweight, who was both stronger and faster than Oscar at 154. Norris blazes De la Hoya.
See above....
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I don't see him getting DQ'd. I see him winning handily.
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It's a known fact Terry had demons that haunted his mind everyday, the same way he had wins he also had loses by DQ.... I think Terrys resume is a good one but as I said once those demons came into play he wasn't the same. I mean come on he struggled with Troy Waters ??? , then lost to Brown when he (Terry) was on top of his game. He then loses back to back by DQ ???
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Norris is one of my favorites, dude was just mean. Dirty too though. But he could give anybody a lot of problems, great speed, power, and could pressure and box. But he was chinny, although Mayweather wouldn't have been able to exploit that at 154.
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Took the best Tito had to offer ::** Dude, the guy ran like Justin Gatlin on steroids the entire fight, against a fighter mind you who was completely one-dimensional. Norris could box his @ss off and was a natural born superwelterweight, who was both stronger and faster than Oscar at 154. Norris blazes De la Hoya.
I think Oscar's left hook would have plenty to say with the outcome
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It's a known fact Terry had demons that haunted his mind everyday, the same way he had wins he also had loses by DQ.... I think Terrys resume is a good one but as I said once those demons came into play he wasn't the same. I mean come on he struggled with Troy Waters ??? , then lost to Brown when he (Terry) was on top of his game. He then loses back to back by DQ ???
Demons that haunted his mind everyday? I think we're getting just alittle too carried away with the psychoanalysis part. He simply had a hard time controlling himself in the ring. The guy wasn't a mental case. I don't remember him struggling against Troy Waters. I remember him getting decked in the second and coming back and knocking out Troy in the third. And lastly, let's be realistic about back to back DQs to Luis Santana. The first DQ was when not even Santana nor the ref heard the bell, and the second was when Santana faked unconciousness.
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It's a known fact Terry had demons that haunted his mind everyday, the same way he had wins he also had loses by DQ.... I think Terrys resume is a good one but as I said once those demons came into play he wasn't the same. I mean come on he struggled with Troy Waters ??? , then lost to Brown when he (Terry) was on top of his game. He then loses back to back by DQ ???
Demons that haunted his mind everyday? I think we're getting just alittle too carried away with the psychoanalysis part. He simply had a hard time controlling himself in the ring. The guy wasn't a mental case. I don't remember him struggling against Troy Waters. I remember him getting decked in the second and coming back and knocking out Troy in the third. And lastly, let's be realistic about back to back DQs to Luis Santana. The first DQ was when not even Santana nor the ref heard the bell, and the second was when Santana faked unconciousness.
So your saying that the man was mentally stable? I think not. Like I said TO ME hes the mini-Golota who struggled with the mental part of the sport...
You say he simply had a hard time controlling himself in the ring.... Well name other fighters that had the same problem and you'll see what I mean about mind demonds... Tyson, Golota, Tapia.... to name a few. You say you don't remember him struggling with Waters but then you say he got decked... Wadda' ya call that then? Flying through you opponent.... Not only did he get decked but Waters put him in trouble twice in that rd.
OK..... fair play on the bell situation, but he would have been DQ'd in the next few rds.... Cause you do remember the headtbutt, right?
I like watching Terry he was a bad mo' fo' I just don't think he could have beaten ODLH, PBF not sure maybe but PBF is too slick and smart in there Terry would have had to bring his 'A' game....
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Originally Posted by Samson3000
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It's a known fact Terry had demons that haunted his mind everyday, the same way he had wins he also had loses by DQ.... I think Terrys resume is a good one but as I said once those demons came into play he wasn't the same. I mean come on he struggled with Troy Waters ??? , then lost to Brown when he (Terry) was on top of his game. He then loses back to back by DQ ???
Demons that haunted his mind everyday? I think we're getting just alittle too carried away with the psychoanalysis part. He simply had a hard time controlling himself in the ring. The guy wasn't a mental case. I don't remember him struggling against Troy Waters. I remember him getting decked in the second and coming back and knocking out Troy in the third. And lastly, let's be realistic about back to back DQs to Luis Santana. The first DQ was when not even Santana nor the ref heard the bell, and the second was when Santana faked unconciousness.
So your saying that the man was mentally stable? I think not. Like I said TO ME hes the mini-Golota who struggled with the mental part of the sport...
You say he simply had a hard time controlling himself in the ring.... Well name other fighters that had the same problem and you'll see what I mean about mind demonds... Tyson, Golota, Tapia.... to name a few. You say you don't remember him struggling with Waters but then you say he got decked... Wadda' ya call that then? Flying through you opponent.... Not only did he get decked but Waters put him in trouble twice in that rd.
OK..... fair play on the bell situation, but he would have been DQ'd in the next few rds.... Cause you do remember the headtbutt, right?
I like watching Terry he was a bad mo' fo' I just don't think he could have beaten ODLH, PBF not sure maybe but PBF is too slick and smart in there Terry would have had to bring his 'A' game....
As soon as you show me that Norris sank himself into drug induced comas like Tapia, kicked old men in the testicles in traffic disputes like Tyson, or got arrested for starting bar room brawls like Golota, then come talk to me about a guy being mentally unstable. Categorizing a person as being ill for infractions he pulls in the ring of a highly emotional and violent sport like boxing? Man, give me a break.
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Originally Posted by Samson3000
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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It's a known fact Terry had demons that haunted his mind everyday, the same way he had wins he also had loses by DQ.... I think Terrys resume is a good one but as I said once those demons came into play he wasn't the same. I mean come on he struggled with Troy Waters ??? , then lost to Brown when he (Terry) was on top of his game. He then loses back to back by DQ ???
Demons that haunted his mind everyday? I think we're getting just alittle too carried away with the psychoanalysis part. He simply had a hard time controlling himself in the ring. The guy wasn't a mental case. I don't remember him struggling against Troy Waters. I remember him getting decked in the second and coming back and knocking out Troy in the third. And lastly, let's be realistic about back to back DQs to Luis Santana. The first DQ was when not even Santana nor the ref heard the bell, and the second was when Santana faked unconciousness.
So your saying that the man was mentally stable? I think not. Like I said
TO ME hes the mini-Golota who struggled with the mental part of the sport... You say he simply had a hard time controlling himself in the ring.... Well name other fighters that had the same problem and you'll see what I mean about mind demonds... Tyson, Golota, Tapia.... to name a few. You say you don't remember him struggling with Waters but then you say he got decked... Wadda' ya call that then? Flying through you opponent.... Not only did he get decked but Waters put him in trouble twice in that rd.
OK..... fair play on the bell situation, but he would have been DQ'd in the next few rds.... Cause you do remember the headtbutt, right?
I like watching Terry he was a bad mo' fo' I just don't think he could have beaten ODLH, PBF not sure maybe but PBF is too slick and smart in there Terry would have had to bring his 'A' game....
As soon as you show me that Norris sank himself into drug induced comas like Tapia, kicked old men in the testicles in traffic disputes like Tyson, or got arrested for starting bar room brawls like Golota, then come talk to me about a guy being mentally unstable. Categorizing a person as being ill for infractions he pulls in the ring of a highly emotional and violent sport like boxing? Man, give me a break.
Not once did I mention his personal life or life outside the ring... ??? I clearly stated above in red his mind demons were in the ring.....
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I'm not trying to nitpick here, but when I read you say he had demons that haunted his mind every day, that kind of leads me to believe you are infact speaking of his personal life, unless Norris is fighting professional bouts 365 days a year.
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Not nitpicking at all, your right I did state that..... What I meant to put was in the ring.... :) Not everyday, I was only trying to refer in the ring as I did in the other statements....
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I think Mayweather would frustrate him until Norris fouled himself out of the fight.
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You guys are all fooking dum, This guy would whip any of them! ;)
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You guys are all fooking dum, This guy would whip any of them! ;)
Hatton already ducked this guy at 140.
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Fucking love Terry Norris. no doubt a great boxer/ puncher, and could beat anyone at any time, However Terry's problem vs ODLA would be with consistency . Norris had bad habits like throwing punches and bring his hands down to point as you could time him rather easily, also a bit of a china chin .. but fantastic puncher. loved the way he tilted his body into his shots almost turning completely sideways as to get maximum leverage.. also loved his rhythm . Cool Click for bringing up one of the greatest Jr Middleweights ever , I love reliving that moment in time ! Terry Norris was a thrill ride fighter !
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Oscar would whip Terrible Terry Norris....you're talking about a guy who took the best Tito Trinidad had to offer
Terry Norris is the greatest 154lber of all time. I think he could hold his own against the Golden Boy to say the least Lyle. ::**
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Terry Norris is the greatest 154lber of all time. I think he could hold his own against the Golden Boy to say the least Lyle. ::**
Oh well excuse me, I forgot he placed himself up there with the greats of all time.....how did he fair vs Julian Jackson again???
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Terry Norris is the greatest 154lber of all time. I think he could hold his own against the Golden Boy to say the least Lyle. ::**
Oh well excuse me, I forgot he placed himself up there with the greats of all time.....how did he fair vs Julian Jackson again???
;D
Come on Lyle even I didn't wanna go there but hey!! now that you did.... Here it is....
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Terry Norris is the greatest 154lber of all time. I think he could hold his own against the Golden Boy to say the least Lyle. ::**
Oh well excuse me, I forgot he placed himself up there with the greats of all time.....how did he fair vs Julian Jackson again???
I think Jackson hit a bit harder than Oscar. And remind me how he faired against SRL and Meldrick Taylor again, huh Big Mouth???
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Terry Norris is the greatest 154lber of all time. I think he could hold his own against the Golden Boy to say the least Lyle. ::**
Oh well excuse me, I forgot he placed himself up there with the greats of all time.....how did he fair vs Julian Jackson again???
How did Oscar fair against little Shane Mosley?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Terry Norris is the greatest 154lber of all time. I think he could hold his own against the Golden Boy to say the least Lyle. ::**
Oh well excuse me, I forgot he placed himself up there with the greats of all time.....how did he fair vs Julian Jackson again???
How did Oscar fair against little Shane Mosley?
He lost the 1st fight and he won in the re-match..... :)
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Oh ok because I thought little Shane debelted him both times.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Terry Norris is the greatest 154lber of all time. I think he could hold his own against the Golden Boy to say the least Lyle. ::**
Oh well excuse me, I forgot he placed himself up there with the greats of all time.....how did he fair vs Julian Jackson again???
I think Jackson hit a bit harder than Oscar. And remind me how he faired against SRL and Meldrick Taylor again, huh Big Mouth???
Julian "The Hawk" Jackson had a great punch, he was also a fantastic watch.
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I think Jackson hit a bit harder than Oscar. And remind me how he faired against SRL and Meldrick Taylor again, huh Big Mouth???
ODH never got KO'd at 154 bro
Ray Leonard when? in 1991 in Ray's SECOND TO LAST FIGHT EVER !!!!
Meldrick Taylor post JCC was garbage and everyone knows it.
Norris was a very good fighter but let's be real here....ODH could take a huge punch, he had a better defense, he had power in both hands, he was 100% focused for 3 minutes for 12 rounds! Norris was very skilled but I think he loses a decision to Oscar
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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I think Jackson hit a bit harder than Oscar. And remind me how he faired against SRL and Meldrick Taylor again, huh Big Mouth???
ODH never got KO'd at 154 bro
Ray Leonard when? in 1991 in Ray's SECOND TO LAST FIGHT EVER !!!!
Meldrick Taylor post JCC was garbage and everyone knows it.
Norris was a very good fighter but let's be real here....ODH could take a huge punch, he had a better defense, he had power in both hands, he was 100% focused for 3 minutes for 12 rounds! Norris was very skilled but I think he loses a decision to Oscar
I have to disagree here. Oscar is no doubt a hall of famer but let's be serious, it ain't for what he's done at 154, because quite frankly, he hasn't really done sh!t there. If Norris takes a hit for Taylor being damaged goods, exactly what do you call Vargas after that little fight with a guy called Tito (not to mention him almost getting KOd by Wilfredo Rivera). And please don't say beating Mayorga was much different, because as exciting as he is, he's very limited in terms of skill. Norris, on the other hand, is one of the greatest superwelterweights of all time, and earned his spot in the Hall of Fame by fighting at that weight. Oscar doesn't want it with Terrible Terry at 154.
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ODH - Castillejo, Vargas, Mosley II.....all at 154 that's a good chunk of his HOF resume if you ask me
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Yeah, too bad Mosley beat him.
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....so the judges said....I think he did enough to win.
Terry Norris ain't Shane Mosley either
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Hulk
I think Jackson hit a bit harder than Oscar. And remind me how he faired against SRL and Meldrick Taylor again, huh Big Mouth???
ODH never got KO'd at 154 bro
Ray Leonard when? in 1991 in Ray's SECOND TO LAST FIGHT EVER !!!!
Meldrick Taylor post JCC was garbage and everyone knows it.
Norris was a very good fighter but let's be real here....ODH could take a huge punch, he had a better defense, he had power in both hands, he was 100% focused for 3 minutes for 12 rounds! Norris was very skilled but I think he loses a decision to Oscar
I don't know Lyle?? , I think if Oscar beat him , it would be via KO. Terry had that live by the sword die by the sword mentality... Terry's chin was there to be hit .. However I think Terry had excellent power and could win the same way. Terry was extremely strong... I'm talking serious strength for a 154 lb fighter. I would predict a knockout one way or the other, If it went the full 12, I would actually pick Norris by Dec. that mean Norris was on his toes winning rounds. Great match tho ! Would have loved to see it ! O0 Cool Clicks for everyone ! I love this thread !
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....so the judges said....I think he did enough to win.
Terry Norris ain't Shane Mosley either
I agree. Terry Norris doesn't lose to Winky Wright at 154 ;D
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but Terry Norris does lose to Simon Brown and Luis Santana (twice) and Jackson and 6 other people at 154
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but Terry Norris does lose to Simon Brown and Luis Santana (twice) and Jackson and 6 other people at 154
He lost to Luis Santana twice ::** I guess you think Roy Jones 'lost' to Montell Griffin too huh?
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....so the judges said....I think he did enough to win.
Terry Norris ain't Shane Mosley either
Excuse me for interrupting, but if Mosley lost to Oscar at 154 in your eyes, exactly what has he done at junior middleweight ???
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but Terry Norris does lose to Simon Brown and Luis Santana (twice) and Jackson and 6 other people at 154
He lost to Luis Santana twice ::**  I guess you think Roy Jones 'lost' to Montell Griffin too huh?
Well it's what the record says and as Bill Parcells says "You are what your record says you are"
Beat Fernando Vargas and Javier Castillejo
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Sorry, I forgot Castillejo's a first ballot hall of famer ::**
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Heres Norris struggling with Troy Waters ??? Who?
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