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Hatton v Tzsyu – Who would have thought….
I know it’s not been that long since this fight took place, but I remember all the pre-fight build up etc.
I know not many people are going to admit to getting this prediction wrong, but I’m sure the majority went for Tzsyu.
I recall that I went for Tzsyu right up until the week before the fight, but then I bought the “Boxing News” that week and it had a BIG front page cover picture of Hatton’s face and the build up to the fight. You know how the saying goes “a picture say a thousand words” well that was it, after looking at that picture for about 5 mins, I decided there and then that Hatton would beat Tzsyu.
There was this look in his eyes that said it all!
Then there was the actual fight itself and we all know what happened there, even though I thought Hatton would win, no way in a million years did I think he would stop Tzsyu coming out for the last round. I thought it was a magnificent performance from the “Manchester Mexican”. It’s well documented that Hatton’s all-time hero is Roberto Duran and I feel Duran would have been proud of that performance, I think there were signs of the way Duran use to fight in Hatton’s performance, non-stop, relentless energy!
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Personally i was convinced that Tsyzu would just add another stoppage win to his impressive record! I was veryyyy impressed with the Hitman that night though i must admit. I think he could have faught for 50 rounds he was on another level that night, possesed!
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Yeah...people like to forget that fight but Hatton has the ability to be spectacular. My brother is a Tszyu fan, dad a Hatton fan. I kind of teetered on edge for a bit before finally picking Hatton. Never imagined a stoppage though.
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the most respectful post-fight words ever spoken too.
Unlike that twat mayweather.
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
the most respectful post-fight words ever spoken too.
Unlike that twat mayweather.
Not to defend Mayweather as completely respectful to his opponents, but what bad words has he said to his opponents after the fight?
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Yar. Hatton is my favorite fighter, bar none. Floyd (as anyone knows who has read my comments)I don't like so much. He just talks too much trash, but I have noticed that he seems to be very respectable after a fight. Maybe he just talks smack to build up hype, I dunno. My opinion about him seems to be slowly changing.
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Im proud to say that i thought hatton would win at the time. i always felt that the layoffs that kostya had had in the 2 and a half years would make a difference. i think i said that for Hatton to be successful he would have to apply educated pressure. i think that have to be the tactic against mayweather too
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I always thought Hatton would do it (and won a few quid from the bookies with it :D) But thought it might have been a bit tougher than he made it look. But agreed it was nice to see how much respect he had for Tzsyu after.
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
the most respectful post-fight words ever spoken too.
Unlike that twat mayweather.
Hatton is just that kind of guy. He was respectful even before the fight. I can't remember him ever saying anything bad about Tszyu.....Ricky is a class act as a person reguardless of anyones opinion of him as a fighter....We need more like him in the sport
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It was a special night for me, and one I'll never ever forget, I'm not sure I knew he would do it, but I wanted him to so much, and I always believed he had the potential to do it, and on that night he proved it. After that performance I believed he could beat Mayweather. Nothings changed yet. No one truly knows what Hatton is capable of, and until someone beats him no one can say yet. Same goes for Mayweather.
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I agree with you yoitsdan, if anyone was going to beat Mayweather it was Hatton - then. But that all changed after seeing the pair of them fight up at welter, Ricky struggled and hopefully he'll stay down at light welter now where I dont see anyone beating him for quite some time wheras Mayweather obviously didnt carry the same power at the higher weight but still looked comfortable and with him now stepping up again to fight De La Hoya theres no way he'll fight Hatton. Shame they didnt get it on while both at light welter but I cant see Mayweather coming back down and so I doubt they'll ever meet. So for years to come we'll probably all be wondering ...... what if?
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Yeah,even though I'm not a massive Hatton fan and I don't agree with his moves since the Kostya fight,that was a simply sensational performance! I even remember the commentators saying that ALOT of peeps including experts were expecting Hatton to get blown out! Hatton destroyed Tszyu though and even though KT has been inactive etc,Ricky would beat him even if he was active,he has the right style to and honestly,he fought like a man impervious to pain! Even when Kostya did land,Hatton just walked right through it! That shocked me!
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Exactly and he just doesnt seem the same at a higher weight, at light welter no matter who you put him in with Rickys always going to be the stronger man. At welter hes not able to come in bigger than his opponent and loses his abililty to bully them and control the fight, Im not saying he couldnt still make an impact at welter but at light welter he just looks unstoppable so should stay there and dominate.
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Did you guys see the pictures of Hatton and Tszyu sharing a pint in Ricky's dad's pub the night after the fight? They're very friendly but both very badly marked up..... I've got photos of it somewhere...
They're both a class act...
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Originally Posted by beerjelly
Exactly and he just doesnt seem the same at a higher weight, at light welter no matter who you put him in with Rickys always going to be the stronger man. At welter hes not able to come in bigger than his opponent and loses his abililty to bully them and control the fight, Im not saying he couldnt still make an impact at welter but at light welter he just looks unstoppable so should stay there and dominate.
I agree to an extent in that he loses his physical prowess by moving up in weight but that's where the big fights are! Outside of Castillo,who else is there to fight at 140? At 147,he need not fight the wrescking machines like Margarito but he could rumble with Cotto,Mosley,guys of that ilk. I just don't see what Hatton is going to do at 140 after the Urango and Castillo fights. He bulit up momentum with KT fight,has let it slip until hopefully,the JLC fight (which I think he will win) when his momentum will be at an all time high but then what? Unify the titles at 140?
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Corrales may fight at 140 too i heard - nothing certain yet, plus after Junior Witter winning a title theres even more domestic interest there. OK not the biggest fights in the world but a lot of the big fights at welter arent an option now with Zab, Gatti and Baldomir all recently beaten and pretty boy moving up again for De La Hoya. Cotto and Margarito maybe fighting each other soon which I see Cotto winning there just arent as many huge fights for Ricky at welter as there looked to be not too long ago. Better to dominate one division and unify than fight a bunch of guys already beaten and maybe past their best.
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I had a feeling he would be different from other unknowns on the world title chase but i had seen him fight and fight well, shown promise before.. in a few interviews even years before he fought tszyu i knew he would make it big eventually cos he was always talking about the big names in the humble manner which he does.. When zab was the big champ he was mentioning zab.. and when tszyu became the undisputed champ he was talking about tszyu .. always looking to be the linear champ and not the paper champ!..
thats the difference between hatton and mayweather..
although both have earnt and dropped titles without a second though and both were looking for the big fights i feel hatton went about it alot better and was looking to be the man who beat the man..
nothing against floyd until the point he left lightweight.. where i was alot bigger a fan of him!..
but thats the point where floyd changed a bit..
hatton knew kostya was the linear champ and would be so for a fair while so he went looking for that fight.. like why he took the smaller/ mediocre fights on the build up they all tied in with his urge to fight kostya .. vince phillips was the only one to have beaten tszyu so hatton beat him.. fought olivera and other such names who were tied in with phillips tszyu sharmba mitchell... tried quite hard for a bout with mitchell also..
i think floyd bieng the different character he is was also biased on money issues aswell when making his fights and when moving up he looked for fights where the paycheck was big whether the title was legit or not..
i mean wasnt the wbc title vacant when gatti won it cos kostya dropped it? and floyd should have stuck around and fought ricky then i think.. most do!! but cant dwell on that..
anyway..wrappin it up!!
Peace
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Tszyu was battling two foes in the ring: A corrupt ref, and a fouling jackass who thinks he's a Thai boxer.
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
Tszyu was battling two foes in the ring: A corrupt ref, and a fouling jackass who thinks he's a Thai boxer.
LMAO!! In all fairness,even though Ricky got away with things,Kostya himself didn't complain and he did hit Ricky back low at times too although I think anywhere else,Hatton would not have been allowed to get away with such rough house tactics.
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Originally Posted by beerjelly
Corrales may fight at 140 too i heard - nothing certain yet, plus after Junior Witter winning a title theres even more domestic interest there. OK not the biggest fights in the world but a lot of the big fights at welter arent an option now with Zab, Gatti and Baldomir all recently beaten and pretty boy moving up again for De La Hoya. Cotto and Margarito maybe fighting each other soon which I see Cotto winning there just arent as many huge fights for Ricky at welter as there looked to be not too long ago. Better to dominate one division and unify than fight a bunch of guys already beaten and maybe past their best.
Corrrales will most likely go to 147,140 would be hard for him to make too. Witter would be a big domestic fight but in terms of exposure Stateside,I think Hatton needs to move to 147. There are plenty of fights there,heck if ALLLLLLLL the big naems are busy,rematch Collazo because alot of US fans see that as Ricky being beaten back to 140 even though he actually won the fight!I like the unification idea but I think Hattons thinking exposure,$$$$!!!
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Originally Posted by RockyFatton
Did you guys see the pictures of Hatton and Tszyu sharing a pint in Ricky's dad's pub the night after the fight? They're very friendly but both very badly marked up..... I've got photos of it somewhere...
They're both a class act...
Any chance of you posting those photos? Ive seen pics of them both after the fight but not together.
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
Tszyu was battling two foes in the ring: A corrupt ref, and a fouling jackass who thinks he's a Thai boxer.
Honestly watch Tszyu, he's just as rough. At one time he even tried to hit hatton in the hamstring, possibly aiming for his ligaments.
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
Tszyu was battling two foes in the ring: A corrupt ref, and a fouling jackass who thinks he's a Thai boxer.
Honestly watch Tszyu, he's just as rough. At one time he even tried to hit hatton in the hamstring, possibly aiming for his ligaments.
LMFAO,are you serious?! I don't remember that!!!! Did he like bend down to hit him or something!?lol!
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They were both trying to rough each other up and neither of them complained, not during or after the fight - Ricky was just better at it.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
Tszyu was battling two foes in the ring: A corrupt ref, and a fouling jackass who thinks he's a Thai boxer.
Honestly watch Tszyu, he's just as rough. At one time he even tried to hit hatton in the hamstring, possibly aiming for his ligaments.
LMFAO,are you serious?! I don't remember that!!!! Did he like bend down to hit him or something!?lol!
Admittadly, it was in one of the many clinches in the fight, I'll watch the fight again, and point it out on the youtube. (Like I need another excuse to watch the fight again ;))
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
Tszyu was battling two foes in the ring: A corrupt ref, and a fouling jackass who thinks he's a Thai boxer.
Proof of corrupt refs have we?.. thought so ;)
Fact is there were two badass though fighters in there..
they both came to fight..
both hatton and tszyu were ' roughing eachother up'.. doing things like elbows holding theyr opponents head back..
hatton hit tszyu with one notable low shot.. the only one that could legitimately be argued as intentional..
same to tyszu regarding two low blows..
And niether complained because they knew what they came to do and they didnt cry and call eachother names cos they both consented to fighting that kind of fight..
The fact that you make such ill arguement as fouling 'jackass, allegations of corruption and reference to thai boxing just takes away what a great fight it was!!
Its proof of an ill arguement that your not confident enough to state a case without backup and by just name calling at a great humble fighter..
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Originally Posted by beerjelly
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Originally Posted by RockyFatton
Did you guys see the pictures of Hatton and Tszyu sharing a pint in Ricky's dad's pub the night after the fight? They're very friendly but both very badly marked up..... I've got photos of it somewhere...
They're both a class act...
Any chance of you posting those photos? Ive seen pics of them both after the fight but not together.
I've gotta go to work now.. but I'll see if I can post them up tonight...
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
Tszyu was battling two foes in the ring: A corrupt ref, and a fouling jackass who thinks he's a Thai boxer.
Proof of corrupt refs have we?.. thought so ;)
Fact is there were two badass though fighters in there..
they both came to fight..
both hatton and tszyu were ' roughing eachother up'.. doing things like elbows holding theyr opponents head back..
hatton hit tszyu with one notable low shot.. the only one that could legitimately be argued as intentional..
same to tyszu regarding two low blows..
And niether complained because they knew what they came to do and they didnt cry and call eachother names cos they both consented to fighting that kind of fight..
The fact that you make such ill arguement as fouling 'jackass, allegations of corruption and reference to thai boxing just takes away what a great fight it was!!
Its proof of an ill arguement that your not confident enough to state a case without backup and by just name calling at a great humble fighter..
Proof? Are you joking? Just watch the fight and try to not to be so biased. Tszyu LEGITIMATELY knocked down Hatton with a LEGIT body shot and Hatton was given a pass by that
ref who was obviously payed off by Warren. What about all of the illegal elbows that Hatton threw? That really only happens in U.F.C., Pride, or other forms of M.M.A. ::**
If the truth be known, Hatton should have been disqualified during that fight. I hear all of you Hatton fans minimizing his blatant disregard for the rules of prize fighting by calling him a physical fighter... :lolhaha: :looroll: That's like saying that a serial rapist has an over active libido.
Hatton is a piece of shite and I hope that Urango batters him in the most brutal fashion.
:pis2: http://www.frankwarren.tv/fw4/pictur...tton_small.jpg
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Yeah,even though I'm not a massive Hatton fan and I don't agree with his moves since the Kostya fight,that was a simply sensational performance! I even remember the commentators saying that ALOT of peeps including experts were expecting Hatton to get blown out! Hatton destroyed Tszyu though and even though KT has been inactive etc,Ricky would beat him even if he was active,he has the right style to and honestly,he fought like a man impervious to pain! Even when Kostya did land,Hatton just walked right through it! That shocked me!
If you have the fight on tape, watch one of the middle rounds and notice how Tszyu knocked down Hatton with a clean body shot, but was called a low blow by the hometown referee. As Yogi would say, "you could look it up."
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Originally Posted by Rican
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Yeah,even though I'm not a massive Hatton fan and I don't agree with his moves since the Kostya fight,that was a simply sensational performance! I even remember the commentators saying that ALOT of peeps including experts were expecting Hatton to get blown out! Hatton destroyed Tszyu though and even though KT has been inactive etc,Ricky would beat him even if he was active,he has the right style to and honestly,he fought like a man impervious to pain! Even when Kostya did land,Hatton just walked right through it! That shocked me!
If you have the fight on tape, watch one of the middle rounds and notice how Tszyu knocked down Hatton with a clean body shot, but was called a low blow by the hometown referee. As Yogi would say, "you could look it up."
Tell me which round it is please and I'll check it! You're not the first person to point this out so may be you guys are right! Anyone else see this potential knockdown??
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Originally Posted by Rican
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Yeah,even though I'm not a massive Hatton fan and I don't agree with his moves since the Kostya fight,that was a simply sensational performance! I even remember the commentators saying that ALOT of peeps including experts were expecting Hatton to get blown out! Hatton destroyed Tszyu though and even though KT has been inactive etc,Ricky would beat him even if he was active,he has the right style to and honestly,he fought like a man impervious to pain! Even when Kostya did land,Hatton just walked right through it! That shocked me!
If you have the fight on tape, watch one of the middle rounds and notice how Tszyu knocked down Hatton with a clean body shot, but was called a low blow by the hometown referee. As Yogi would say, "you could look it up."
and even if it was knockdown was does that matter he still made tzsyu quit he still would of won i would see ur point if fight went distance and hatton won close decision but thats not the case he quit so it doesnt really matter
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
Tszyu was battling two foes in the ring: A corrupt ref, and a fouling jackass who thinks he's a Thai boxer.
Proof of corrupt refs have we?.. thought so ;)
Fact is there were two badass though fighters in there..
they both came to fight..
both hatton and tszyu were ' roughing eachother up'.. doing things like elbows holding theyr opponents head back..
hatton hit tszyu with one notable low shot.. the only one that could legitimately be argued as intentional..
same to tyszu regarding two low blows..
And niether complained because they knew what they came to do and they didnt cry and call eachother names cos they both consented to fighting that kind of fight..
The fact that you make such ill arguement as fouling 'jackass, allegations of corruption and reference to thai boxing just takes away what a great fight it was!!
Its proof of an ill arguement that your not confident enough to state a case without backup and by just name calling at a great humble fighter..
Proof? Are you joking? Just watch the fight and try to not to be so biased. Tszyu LEGITIMATELY knocked down Hatton with a LEGIT body shot and Hatton was given a pass by that
ref who was obviously payed off by Warren. What about all of the illegal elbows that Hatton threw? That really only happens in U.F.C., Pride, or other forms of M.M.A. ::**
If the truth be known, Hatton should have been disqualified during that fight. I hear all of you Hatton fans minimizing his blatant disregard for the rules of prize fighting by calling him a physical fighter... :lolhaha: :looroll: That's like saying that a serial rapist has an over active libido.
Hatton is a piece of shite and I hope that Urango batters him in the most brutal fashion.
:pis2:
http://www.frankwarren.tv/fw4/pictur...tton_small.jpg
Don't hold back mate, tell us what you really think of Hatton ;D
