Who punched harder Lewis or Tyson?

The two hardest punchers to being world heavyweight champion of the last 20-30 years if not ever. Who punched harder? Ever opponent they both faced Lewis knocked out, except Holyfield, but he did hurt Holyfield worse than Tyson did. Tyson knocked out Bruno quicker. Lewis knocked out Biggs, Ruddock, and Golota quicker... So who was the bigger puncher? IMO its probably Mike Tyson, but he could hit the biggers guys as easily as Lennox could, though Lennox did hurt Ruddock with a clean cross yet Mike hit him with numerous hooks to no avail.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

The two hardest punchers to being world heavyweight champion of the last 20-30 years if not ever. Who punched harder? Ever opponent they both faced Lewis knocked out, except Holyfield, but he did hurt Holyfield worse than Tyson did. Tyson knocked out Bruno quicker. Lewis knocked out Biggs, Ruddock, and Golota quicker... So who was the bigger puncher? IMO its probably Mike Tyson, but he could hit the biggers guys as easily as Lennox could, though Lennox did hurt Ruddock with a clean cross yet Mike hit him with numerous hooks to no avail.

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Bro...are you serious???

Tyson by a long shot and Tua hit harder than either of them.

Earnie Shavers was the hardest of all time.

Not as dumb a question as i thought at first glance
Lewis 41w with 32 ko's
Tyson 50w with 44 ko's
So very different in their delivery of the ko
Lewis against good fighters used a textbook right after the jab
best example against Andrew Golota. Very Klitschko like
Tyson was Unique in his delivery down low and punching from odd crouched and leaping stance. Huge power from short inside hooks,very accurate.Tua used a huge leaping left hook as well but it is a more conventional delivery. My opinion. Due to the unexpected nature of the punch and the fear and trepidation it created in his opponents I'd have to pick Tyson. For all those Lewis fans out there,What about Lewis/ Ray mercer?? i had fortgotten about that slugfest! props to lennox for taking on that toughguy!

Tyson didn't hurt Ruddock? He blew him out. The only reason Ruddock got a rematch was because he had him in trouble for about 30 seconds at the end of the 6th round.

Good question...

I don't know they both puched different. Tysons punches had more of a hook in them (due to his short arms I would guess)
Lewis hadn long arms (more extension) his punches were straighter....

If I had to make a choice I would go with Lewis due to the extension/delivery of the punch compared to the shorter/hook-ish Tyson punches....

Cooney, Foreman, Marciano, Joe Louis, Max Baer all hard HW punchers.......and the list goes on and on.

When it comes down to hardest of all time, the general consensus is it's usually between Foreman and Shavers.

Tyson had the more compact explosive punch while Lewis threw a straighter more snapping type of punch.Two very different kind of punchers, Tyson punched with leverage behind his shots and Lewis used more of a textbook kind of punch using extension and snap to create power.

I never saw Lewis chuck another guy accross the ring with a single punch.

Remember, Strength + speed = power

Tyson - power

Lewis - hard punch

this kinda question is wot makes boxing match ups puzzling
it boils down to styles make fights some boxers are more at risk from hooks ( tyson ) or crosses ( lewis )
id probably say prime Tyson hit harder but when he lost his speed then i think the 34 year old plus Lewis hit harder because he carried so much bulk.

I remember after Larry Holmes had fought a prime tyson he said people hit harder , even though Tyson was the first to KO him , this is down to Tysons speed and the pact that he was a slugger.
cheers chaps !! thats my opinion :)

Someone should hook both of these guys up to the machine that they hooked up that Russian dude in Rocky 4.
I guess neither of them are really in game shape though...

IMO the harder punch depends on the punch thrown...
Jab (Lewis)
Uppercut (Toss up, but slight edge to Tyson)
Hook (Tyson)
Overhand (Lewis, but due to Tyson's height.)

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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone

Cooney, Foreman, Marciano, Joe Louis, Max Baer all hard HW punchers.......and the list goes on and on.

When it comes down to hardest of all time, the general consensus is it's usually between Foreman and Shavers.

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Yep, exactly. And next would be Tyson. Somewhere down that list a little ways would be Lewis. Tyson was the harder puncher no doubt IMO. Lewis caught a lot of these guys, after Tyson had already destroyed them, Biggs, Bruno etc. And fought Holyfield when Holy was on the downslide a little and Lewis was in his prime, whereas Tyson fought Holy when he himself was on the downslide a little and Holy was in his prime. I say Tyson, fo sure. ;D

Holy was in his prime ??

mike tysons power was brute. it was
he had that short-weighted-swift left hook
and this crazy right uppercut where he gives
so much leverage that he shakes not just his opponents head
but the whole torso to snap back and shake visibly

they had power in different ways, if any of you follow tennis its like saying whos serve was better, roddicks bcoz its faster or sampras because he wins more points off it.

lewis's were probably harder because he had the extra 20-30 lbs, BUT due to the compactness of tyson and his speed his body shots ewere much harder than lewis

head punches - lewis, tyson could knock them one side of ring to the other bcoz he came up so they werere moveing when he did it, lewis needed to set himself so the fighter he hit normally wasnt moving

body punches - no doubt tyson

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Originally Posted by TheDukeof74

Earnie Shavers was the hardest of all time.

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Shavers hit hard but a Prime Foreman hit harder than anyone ever in the game P4P...EVER

They hit hard in different ways.....Tyson had the power behind every punch..EG hook,upper,straight right all had the staem on them...Lewis threw the harder straight right hands down though

Overall Tyson easily IMO. When he was young and up and coming, his hooks and uppercuts where damn vicious! SUCH great potential he had, shame for boxing it all went tits up! Lewis obviously had a harder jab but thats all he bloddy did ;)

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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone

Cooney, Foreman, Marciano, Joe Louis, Max Baer all hard HW punchers.......and the list goes on and on.

When it comes down to hardest of all time, the general consensus is it's usually between Foreman and Shavers.

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Yep, exactly. And next would be Tyson. Somewhere down that list a little ways would be Lewis. Tyson was the harder puncher no doubt IMO. Lewis caught a lot of these guys, after Tyson had already destroyed them, Biggs, Bruno etc. And fought Holyfield when Holy was on the downslide a little and Lewis was in his prime, whereas Tyson fought Holy when he himself was on the downslide a little and Holy was in his prime. I say Tyson, fo sure. ;D

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holyfield wasnt in his prime when he fought tyson if anything he was more on downslide then tyson losing to bowe and being exhausted after 4 rounds and losing to moorer where as tyson was champion and had blown away bruno quicker than he had in 1989

i agree with these guys its hard because tyson koed bruno quicker and had alot less trouble wheres as tyson struggled with ruddock and went 12 rounds where as lewis blew him out in 2 rounds both have impressive ko victorys but i would have to say tyson in his prime and im not tyson fan by any means

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Originally Posted by amat

Tyson didn't hurt Ruddock? He blew him out. The only reason Ruddock got a rematch was because he had him in trouble for about 30 seconds at the end of the 6th round.

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yeah and he didnt even have tyson in trouble,he hit tyson a few hard shots and tyson tapped his jaw daring ruddick to hit him again(which razor did),then the seventh round came and tyson took ruddicks best in the 6th ,chewed it up and spat it back out in the 7th.....and i beleive steele stoped the fight 5 seconds to early,had he let it go on another 20 seconds,ruddick would have been splattered all over the canvas.Then there would be no doubt,tyson was on the slide then,but still handed out a terrible beating ;)

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Originally Posted by stavros693000

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Originally Posted by amat

Tyson didn't hurt Ruddock? He blew him out. The only reason Ruddock got a rematch was because he had him in trouble for about 30 seconds at the end of the 6th round.

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yeah and he didnt even have tyson in trouble,he hit tyson a few hard shots and tyson tapped his jaw daring ruddick to hit him again(which razor did),then the seventh round came and tyson took ruddicks best in the 6th ,chewed it up and spat it back out in the 7th.....and i beleive steele stoped the fight 5 seconds to early,had he let it go on another 20 seconds,ruddick would have been splattered all over the canvas.Then there would be no doubt,tyson was on the slide then,but still handed out a terrible beating ;)

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to be honest mate i dont see why people say that i still say thats one of his best victorys he still looked the killer he was back in 86 or 88

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by stavros693000

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Originally Posted by amat

Tyson didn't hurt Ruddock? He blew him out. The only reason Ruddock got a rematch was because he had him in trouble for about 30 seconds at the end of the 6th round.

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yeah and he didnt even have tyson in trouble,he hit tyson a few hard shots and tyson tapped his jaw daring ruddick to hit him again(which razor did),then the seventh round came and tyson took ruddicks best in the 6th ,chewed it up and spat it back out in the 7th.....and i beleive steele stoped the fight 5 seconds to early,had he let it go on another 20 seconds,ruddick would have been splattered all over the canvas.Then there would be no doubt,tyson was on the slide then,but still handed out a terrible beating ;)

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to be honest mate i dont see why people say that i still say thats one of his best victorys he still looked the killer he was back in 86 or 88

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not a good victory in my mind but a victory non the less...tyson 86-88 would have finished ruddick in 2 rds

Whoa! both of these guys are excellent punchers but i'll give the edge to Mike because he has more assortment of powerful punches.
Lennox's best power punch is that overhand right/straight and a stiff left jab. I also saw him knock guys out with big right uppercuts.

Peace to all :goodpost:

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Originally Posted by Lucian

Whoa! both of these guys are excellent punchers but i'll give the edge to Mike because he has more assortment of powerful punches.
Lennox's best power punch is that overhand right/straight and a stiff left jab. I also saw him knock guys out with big right uppercuts.

Peace to all :goodpost:

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:coolclick: mate and welcome!

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Originally Posted by Lucian

Whoa! both of these guys are excellent punchers but i'll give the edge to Mike because he has more assortment of powerful punches.
Lennox's best power punch is that overhand right/straight and a stiff left jab. I also saw him knock guys out with big right uppercuts.

Peace to all :goodpost:

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lets do similar opponents

tony tucker vs tyson= ud for tyson
tony tucker vs lewis= ud for lewis but lewis floored him twice
ruddock vs tyson= win 7th round tko wins 12 round ud
ruddock vs lewis= lewis destroys him in 2
frank bruno vs tyson= tyson wins both fights 5th and 3rd round
bruno vs lewis= lewis wins tko but being behind on my scorecard at the time of the stoppage
golota vs tyson= golota doesnt come out for the 3rd if i remember right so nc
golota vs lewis = lewis destroys him in 1
botha vs tyson= tyson kos him in the 5th but being behind at the time
botha vs lewis= lewis destroys him in 2
holyfield vs tyson= tyson loses in 11th and again by dq
holyfield vs lewis = 1st fight a draw but it was biggest robbery in boxing lewis deserved it 2nd fight being close with lewis winning 7 rounds to 5
tyrell biggs vs tyson= tyson wins 7th round tko
tyrell biggs vs lewis = lewis wins 3rd round tko

i thought that might help ;D

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Lucian

Whoa! both of these guys are excellent punchers but i'll give the edge to Mike because he has more assortment of powerful punches.
Lennox's best power punch is that overhand right/straight and a stiff left jab. I also saw him knock guys out with big right uppercuts.

Peace to all :goodpost:

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lets do similar opponents

tony tucker vs tyson= ud for tyson
tony tucker vs lewis= ud for lewis but lewis floored him twice
ruddock vs tyson= win 7th round tko wins 12 round ud
ruddock vs lewis= lewis destroys him in 2
frank bruno vs tyson= tyson wins both fights 5th and 3rd round
bruno vs lewis= lewis wins tko but being behind on my scorecard at the time of the stoppage
golota vs tyson= golota doesnt come out for the 3rd if i remember right so nc
golota vs lewis = lewis destroys him in 1
botha vs tyson= tyson kos him in the 5th but being behind at the time
botha vs lewis= lewis destroys him in 2
holyfield vs tyson= tyson loses in 11th and again by dq
holyfield vs lewis = 1st fight a draw but it was biggest robbery in boxing lewis deserved it 2nd fight being close with lewis winning 7 rounds to 5
tyrell biggs vs tyson= tyson wins 7th round tko
tyrell biggs vs lewis = lewis wins 3rd round tko

i thought that might help ;D

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nice work,BBUUUUUUTTTTT..,.tyson fought tucker in his prime lewis didnt,IMO the tucker of 87 beats lewis UD...what do ya reckon....i fell if there was no mike tyson,tucker would have ruled the division for a long time and became one of the modern greats ;)

i just got sad clicked :'(...can i please have another SC ;D

tyson hits harder. he hit with bad intentions and turned his whole body into his hooks and upercuts perfectly.

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Originally Posted by stavros693000

i just got sad clicked :'(...can i please have another SC ;D

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who ever it was that sced me..thank you,but could u please come foward,there a cool click in it for you ;D

why wont u own up?..after all i did ask for it! but dont u want ur CC or are u afraid ill sc u back? i promise i wont! just dont be a little b!tch,be a man and own up! what are u afraid off,im on the other side of the globe for fuks sake ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Tyson, no doubt

It's not about how hard you punch - there are loads of huge punchers who never made it to World Champion. In the 70's there was a light-heavy called Bob Satterfield who people reckon punched harder that any heavy who ever lived. Trouble was, he couls be outboxed and had a weakish chin.

The punch that knocks you cold is the one you don't see coming, Tyson did this with blinding hand speed and good combination punching, in his prime. Lewis did it by cleverly disguising his KO punches as part of his style. It was Tyson who had the gift of producing the eye catching knockout, and he will no doubt be on more 'highlights' clips than Lewis in the future.

I definitely don't agree that these two are possibly the hardest punchers ever - that's silly and just seems like the usual revisionism of thinking that today's fighters are better in every aspect than any who have gone before, just because we have videos now (or some such bullshit)

The old bareknuckle fighters would not have punched with the same brute force as today's guys because they would have broken their hands, but that's not to say that if you put John L. or Jess Willard in 10oz gloves, they would punch any less hard that Chris Byrd or Wlad Kitschko (say)

I think the hardest punchers are those that hurt their opponents even when they saw the punch coming, or if the blow was off target and hit their arms. Tyson and Lewis did not Kayo people by bulldozing them, it was technique.

Apocryphally, opponents have commented that Max Bear, George Foreman, Earnie Shavers, Rocky Marciano, Cleveland Williams, Jess Willard, Sonny Liston (in no order or anything, and to just name a few) could hit you anywhere and it would cause damage, or could just punch right through your defense.

There have been notable Kayo kings (Tyson, Frazier, Louis etc) with fantastic knockout records but these were the result of their combination punches, brutal finishing, pressure etc rather than oure unadulterated one punch power. This does not diminish their effectiveness as fighters.

Another thing to remember is how much more we see the referee stopping fights and awarding a TKO nowadays. That tells me that the opponent has not been blasted into unconsciousness, whereas and old-time ref was much more likely to let the fight continue until someone could not (or would not) get up. Granted, the heavier gloves used now also diminish some of the power from today's fighters.

I am not expert enough to have the answer, but it's a complicated enough question, with enough variables that it is not so easy as just looking at someone's KO (or TKO) stats etc.

Just to be controversial, I think that if Lewis and Tyson both did the 'Ivan Drago' test and punched some machine once, Lewis would hit it harder. This is because he was 6'5" and around 19 stone whereas Tyson was 5'10" and around 15.5 stone. BUT, in the ring, Tysons devastating pressure, offensive speed and combination punches make him a much more scary proposition in the early rounds than Lennox.

Only my opinions, of course, guys.

The bigger person will always throw the harder punch unless they have a jacked up stance. Who was more effective with their power was no doubt tyson. He had better speed and technique. You have to be either really strong or really skilled to make it as an undersized heavy and tyson was both. Could a prime tyson beat Vitali in an equally impressive fashion? The size advantage would be insane and i'm not sure. He'd atleast give him a run for his money.

All-time most impressive puncher has to be marciano. Throwing out all the boxing stuff (highest ko ratio all-time, only heavyweight champ to retire undefeated, horrible at best boxing technique), look at the stats of his punches. When measured, there was as much energy (energy= force force= massXacceleration) behind his punch as an armor piercing bullet meaning if bullets were made at the size of his fist, he could put as much force behind them as a gun built to shot those bullets. That's enough of a force to send a 1,000 pound weight 1 foot into the air.

When a former sparring partner of both marciano and louis was interviewed he said louis hurts you with very brutal combos but marciano does the same if not more damage with one punch.

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Originally Posted by stavros693000

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Lucian

Whoa! both of these guys are excellent punchers but i'll give the edge to Mike because he has more assortment of powerful punches.
Lennox's best power punch is that overhand right/straight and a stiff left jab. I also saw him knock guys out with big right uppercuts.

Peace to all :goodpost:

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lets do similar opponents

tony tucker vs tyson= ud for tyson
tony tucker vs lewis= ud for lewis but lewis floored him twice
ruddock vs tyson= win 7th round tko wins 12 round ud
ruddock vs lewis= lewis destroys him in 2
frank bruno vs tyson= tyson wins both fights 5th and 3rd round
bruno vs lewis= lewis wins tko but being behind on my scorecard at the time of the stoppage
golota vs tyson= golota doesnt come out for the 3rd if i remember right so nc
golota vs lewis = lewis destroys him in 1
botha vs tyson= tyson kos him in the 5th but being behind at the time
botha vs lewis= lewis destroys him in 2
holyfield vs tyson= tyson loses in 11th and again by dq
holyfield vs lewis = 1st fight a draw but it was biggest robbery in boxing lewis deserved it 2nd fight being close with lewis winning 7 rounds to 5
tyrell biggs vs tyson= tyson wins 7th round tko
tyrell biggs vs lewis = lewis wins 3rd round tko

i thought that might help ;D

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nice work,BBUUUUUUTTTTT..,.tyson fought tucker in his prime lewis didnt,IMO the tucker of 87 beats lewis UD...what do ya reckon....i fell if there was no mike tyson,tucker would have ruled the division for a long time and became one of the modern greats ;)

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Lewis made a career out of fighting guys past their prime.

Tyson was by a distance the more effective KO puncher....Physical size doesnt account for what knock out power is....its about the speed and distance of the shot also....

Looking at the common opponents , Lewis did a better job on them but I cant write off Iron Mikes power. The man was lethal up close . .

Probably for a 1 punch power shot i'd say Lewis had more weight and arch in his punches so he would be the bigger knock out puncher . But I wouldnt like to be hit off either of them

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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone

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Originally Posted by Taeth

The two hardest punchers to being world heavyweight champion of the last 20-30 years if not ever. Who punched harder? Ever opponent they both faced Lewis knocked out, except Holyfield, but he did hurt Holyfield worse than Tyson did. Tyson knocked out Bruno quicker. Lewis knocked out Biggs, Ruddock, and Golota quicker... So who was the bigger puncher? IMO its probably Mike Tyson, but he could hit the biggers guys as easily as Lennox could, though Lennox did hurt Ruddock with a clean cross yet Mike hit him with numerous hooks to no avail.

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Bro...are you serious???

Tyson by a long shot and Tua hit harder than either of them.

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Tua was never the heavyweight champion, and I disagree.

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Originally Posted by TheDukeof74

Earnie Shavers was the hardest of all time.

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That's speculation... The only person who got hit by him and Tyson. Doctors said that Holmes wouldn't have even been able to remember the Tyson fight because thats how bad he was concussed... I think he like others just says Shavers is the hardest who ever hit him because he 1. doesn't remember being hit by Tyson or 2. He like many others wants people to respect older fighters... Another thing is that Shavers didn't wear 16oz gloves during his time.

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Originally Posted by TheDukeof74

Earnie Shavers was the hardest of all time.

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Shavers hit hard but a Prime Foreman hit harder than anyone ever in the game P4P...EVER

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I so disagree... Foreman was more of a pummeler, he never really straight out ko'ed until Moorer, usually he would get an opponent up against the ropes and just pummel them onto the canvas.