Whats your take on this subject, I find the subject interesting your views
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Whats your take on this subject, I find the subject interesting your views
my bio beats the sweet sounds of black gospal. or indian chants. hiyiyiya hiyiyiya hiyiyiya hiyiyiya. etc.
Really interesting subject Scrap. Circadian rhythms - the ones on a daily cycle - are the easiest to pick up on. Brain wave and hormone activity go up and down throughout the day effecting things like concentration and alertness. I think there are meant to be even shorter ones too. The longer ones are said to span over weeks, months and years.
I'm not sure if the longer rhythms actually exist. Far too difficult to measure accurately. Predicting someone's rhythms in say 2 months time on a given day with all the other variables involved would be hit or miss. We all know instinctively that things often go in cycles. But are these cycles regular?
Sounds like a good theory but I think there's an element of randomness to individuals biorhythms and so wouldn't stand up scientific scrutiny.
But if it works for you ....... :)
I wonder how much these rhythms are acclimation to our habits and routines, with things like mood triggers that are already set up throughout your week and provide a framework for a rhythm. For instance say you work the same schedule every week, you may start to notice the day you get off your spirits are high. If you studied your life closely I think a lot of the rhythm may be carved out by simple events like this that occur every week over and over. Which days you sleep well and which days you eat well have a huge effect on how you feel mentally, physically and emotionally. Being someone with bipolar I can tell you for sure if I have a rhythm mine is much more like a Sun Ra record than a pop or classical song that tends to have very strong structure.Quote:
Originally Posted by md
Firstly cc to you both interesting replys. I was first introduced to the idea, 15 years ago by Mike Barrett the Promoter in a conversation about conditioning, being an open minded sort I started looking into it. I got the charts and observed 5 lads over a period of time 1year and found the charts alarming correct with the highs and lows, Their were 3 Aquarians in the group and with them it was to the letter as regards timing. You have the Sun and Moon plus us being 65% water, Its all bollocks, but is it,it certainly makes you wonder Theres a line of thought that water has memory Homophathic ???.
it does not. I've scientifically shown it in some experiments with malatonin.
Tell me me more Von
can't until the patent comes out. 8)
Why should that matter its not design.
Did the lads train together Scrap? If they did then the results may be down to environmental factors like weather/temperature or the motivation within the group. Women, when together, fall into hormonal synchronicity - maybe men do as well.
I'm not convinced by the high dilution water imprint thing in homeopathic remedies. They worked as an alternative at a time when the mainstream way of getting rid of disease was to cut an artery and bleed the illness out of the patient.
Im not agreeing with it Im trying to get other peoples view, Im curios. Md they trained together on the track 3 times a week. Other than that in the gym I trained 1 to 1 with them most of the time, and peaked them at different times. Hence they all worked a different program.
Thought I'd better post something until 8) takes his medication. :)
Medicine is not my feild, but Id certainly like to know from an expert
Ha Ha Scrap. I'm sure 8) will tell us when he writes up and patents his malatonin experiment. :)
What I CAN tell you is that melatonin affects the circadian rhythm. There's some truth to biophysical processes and biorythms, but it's got shite to do with the month you were born in. That's for fat black chicks talkin with grampy from the other side.
So its the placebo effect then
Could be. Very similar to a thing called subjective validation.
I hope you're using triple blind trials in your experiments Von.
Dear Scrap et al
more than one major airline ground their pilots at critical biorythmic times (poss ref:Ostrander& Schroeder). This is not when a bio line is low,but when multiple lines converge.
I personally know of a boxer who helpfully was shown his physical line was almost down off the chart just prior to a title fight.(this coupled with it being his 13th fight).He went on to win by knockout in record time.His problem was clearly superstitious.
Circadian (24hrs) and ultradian (90 mins) rhythms can be manipulated and trained.Other threads have covered the pros/cons of training in the morning and fitting before midnight.Not much has been said about nasal rhythms and individual digestive/ sleeping patterns.
Re water memory
It is my "belief" that enough blind trials have demonstrated efficacy above placebo such that if drug companies could patent water,they would market it (afterall they were happy to market long term calcium channel blockers despite underperforming against placebo).
If properly administered by an experienced practitioner placebo can emulate the effects of opiates in chronic pain etc.If used appropriately placebo is the most versatile of all treatments.It does potentially have many side effects however and i would advocate it being rated As a class A drug.
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Now that I find interesting ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
The placebo effect can't be discounted. Many doctors prescribe fake placebos i.e. medication with tiny amount of the active ingredient but not enough to cause an effect. They do this because in some cases the side effects of the treatment is worse than the present condition. It also means they don't have to lie to their patients. What's really interesting is that some patients report the side effects - the nocebo effect. :)