Watched DeLaHoya v Quartey again
Just watched this for the first time in years and thought that Quartey just about did enough to win it.
I thought that the fight should've been stopped in the 12th (even if Quartey) recovered very quickly after the onslaught) Just too many consecutive, unanswered head punches landed for me.
My Card
DLH ROUND QUARTEY
10 1 9
9 2 10
10 3 9
10 4 9
9 5 10
9 6 10
9 7 10
9 8 10
9 9 10
10 10 9
9 11 10
10 12 8
113 114
No way anybody could ever call it a robbery imo (same as Whitaker fight) very close and I could see a victory either way.
What do you reckon?
Re: Watched DeLaHoya v Quartey again
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Just watched this for the first time in years and thought that Quartey just about did enough to win it.
I thought that the fight should've been stopped in the 12th (even if Quartey) recovered very quickly after the onslaught) Just too many consecutive, unanswered head punches landed for me.
My Card
DLH ROUND QUARTEY
10 1 9
9 2 10
10 3 9
10 4 9
9 5 10
9 6 10
9 7 10
9 8 10
9 9 10
10 10 9
9 11 10
10 12 8
113 114
No way anybody could ever call it a robbery imo (same as Whitaker fight) very close and I could see a victory either way.
What do you reckon?
i think i had it 2 points for quartey but its been so long since i watched it and some people actually think oscar had 10-7 round in the 12th which i dont agree with because he lost last minute of that round if i remember right
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Yeh, totally agree, If the onslaught had've continued I would've said 10 v 7, but as you say Quartey wont the last minute atleast and DLH hardly threw a punch - quality fight !!
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here is the footage of the 12th round me personally mate i dont know how some peeps can say oscar had 10-7 round
[youtube=425,350]hKGSSPPpZBo[/youtube]
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
here is the footage of the 12th round me personally mate i dont know how some peeps can say oscar had 10-7 round
[youtube=425,350]hKGSSPPpZBo[/youtube]
in fact Quartey was throwing back during that period Oscar was landing bombs, and he was landing more shots albeit they weren't as hard, but I think that if anything it would be closer to a 10-9 round than a 10-7
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
here is the footage of the 12th round me personally mate i dont know how some peeps can say oscar had 10-7 round
[youtube=425,350]hKGSSPPpZBo[/youtube]
in fact Quartey was throwing back during that period Oscar was landing bombs, and he was landing more shots albeit they weren't as hard, but I think that if anything it would be closer to a 10-9 round than a 10-7
well except the knockdown which would of meant it had to be 10-8
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I remember it being a very close call. What annoyed me though was the fact that even if Oscar would have lost the last round, he still would have won a decision on the judges scorecards.
That was bullshit imo.
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these were the scorecards
112-116 | Judge: John Keane 113-116 | Judge: Larry O'Connell 115-114 ~
Re: Watched DeLaHoya v Quartey again
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Just watched this for the first time in years and thought that Quartey just about did enough to win it.
I thought that the fight should've been stopped in the 12th (even if Quartey) recovered very quickly after the onslaught) Just too many consecutive, unanswered head punches landed for me.
My Card
DLH ROUND QUARTEY
10 1 9
9 2 10
10 3 9
10 4 9
9 5 10
9 6 10
9 7 10
9 8 10
9 9 10
10 10 9
9 11 10
10 12 8
113 114
No way anybody could ever call it a robbery imo (same as Whitaker fight) very close and I could see a victory either way.
What do you reckon?
I had Quartey also, it was a great fight. People don't call it a robbery, they are just frustrated that Oscar's got the nod by such a large margin on two scorecards. 112-116 is simply insane, bias, and bad for the sport. The scorecard was even worse in the Whitaker fight.
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i think alot of people had it for quartey does anyone on this board think oscar won ??
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
i think alot of people had it for quartey does anyone on this board think oscar won ??
There was one poster on this forum named Lawhoops who said he scored nearly every round for Oscar.
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
i think alot of people had it for quartey does anyone on this board think oscar won ??
There was one poster on this forum named Lawhoops who said he scored nearly every round for Oscar.
lol oh yea you told me about him he is oscar fanatic and tyson one aswell isnt he ??
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I had Oscar winning this fight by 1 but like all of his high profile matches,it was close. Why is it,apart from the Mayorga aand Vargas fights,his fights are alll so close!!!
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Oscar won the fight...but it was a competitive match.
The last round should have been a 10-8 round based on the facts that Oscar dropped him & a lot of the punches that Quartey was throwing weren't flush & he was just throwing to appear busy while getting hammered, IWO.
No doubt Quartey is a warrior...but he did lose the fight.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I had Oscar winning this fight by 1 but like all of his high profile matches,it was close. Why is it,apart from the Mayorga aand Vargas fights,his fights are alll so close!!!
I give him credit for hanging in their with all those greats. Trinidad, Mosley, Quartey, Whitaker, Hopkins. Not many fighters can hang in there with greats like that. But all the great fighters of this generation have a night were they won a mega match in a convincing way, sadly that's the only thing missing from Oscar's resume because beating a washed up Mayorga and Vargas won't do it. He still has at least one more shot when fighting PBF. If he can dominate PBF his legend will soar.
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I also think ODLH won the fight it was a very close fight.
ODLH harder/cleaner punches throughout the fight were scoring major points for him. Like the other people here the onslaught that he put on Ike in the 12th was what put him slightly ahead. I too like BIG H thought the fight could have easily been stoped I've seen lesser onslaughts that have been enough to stop fights.
Exciting fight and it really could have gone wither way....
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Originally Posted by BIG H
My Card
DLH ROUND QUARTEY
10 1 9
9 2 10
10 3 9
10 4 9
9 5 10
9 6 10
9 7 10
9 8 10
9 9 10
10 10 9
9 11 10
10 12 8
113 114
I just re-watched this. This is exactly round-for-round how I scored the fight. With most close fights, there are multiple rounds that could go either way, but I thought in this fights the rounds were easy to score. Quartey clearly won the seven rounds that I gave to him, and De La Hoya clearly won 5 rounds, including the 10-8 final round. I thought Quartey clearly deserved a close victory.
The two judges who gave it to DLH scored it 116-113 and 116-112, which were way too lopsided IMO. A one-point victory for DLH would have been understandable (although incorrect IMO), but a 3 or 4 point margin for DLH is just bad judging.
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by BIG H
My Card
DLH ROUND QUARTEY
10 1 9
9 2 10
10 3 9
10 4 9
9 5 10
9 6 10
9 7 10
9 8 10
9 9 10
10 10 9
9 11 10
10 12 8
113 114
I just re-watched this. This is exactly round-for-round how I scored the fight. With most close fights, there are multiple rounds that could go either way, but I thought in this fights the rounds were easy to score. Quartey clearly won the seven rounds that I gave to him, and De La Hoya clearly won 5 rounds, including the 10-8 final round. I thought Quartey clearly deserved a close victory.
The two judges who gave it to DLH scored it 116-113 and 116-112, which were way too lopsided IMO. A one-point victory for DLH would have been understandable (although incorrect IMO), but a 3 or 4 point margin for DLH is just bad judging.
CC M8 ;)
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Well this is the problem, if Oscar had run the last round and not even shown urgency he would have won the fight. Even Oscar didnt think that by the way he fought, not even his father yelling at him to finish Quartey off in those final 30 seconds(you can see him in the crowd yelling at DLH) knew that he needed a knockout to win. But the judges already had it for oscar
