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Bob Arum: "Cotto Would Break Mayweather"
well just read this there trying to stage four cotto events first against urkal second one against margarito and then there trying to get one against mayweather bob arum thinks cotto will break mayweather in 2 cotto also stated the he doesnt like talk i know all the good boxers i know i can fight them and beat them i have no doubts what do you peeps think about this ??
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This will be another good reason for Floyd to retire. He better not come into the WWD unless he wants his pretty little azz kicked. Floyd would suffer the same fate Paulette Malignagi faced (no pun intended) Cotto only needs a few hard shots to break these little Pretty running Boys of the squared circle. ;)
I guess the headlines will read..
"Floyd was scared into retirement."
;D
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There are a lot of great matchups in this division for PBF to take on, but with his recent opponent selection I fear that a number of great match ups wont come through....we could have Mosley, Cotto, Margarito but I doubt these would be easy fights to make...
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Originally Posted by miles
There are a lot of great matchups in this division for PBF to take on, but with his recent opponent selection I fear that a number of great match ups wont come through....we could have Mosley, Cotto, Margarito but I doubt these would be easy fights to make...
EXACTLY! It pisses me off when you hear PBF fans say what has so and so done to deserve a shot etc etc all that BS. Boxers fight each other to see who the best is,they fight the threats,the challengers etc. Look at alll these fights PBF has missed for one reason or another: Freitas/Casamayor/Tszyu/Spadafora etc et and then Cotto,Mosley,Margarito. If he is being honesy about retiring after the Oscar fight,he is missing out and ESPECIALLY as he thinks he is good enough to beat all these guys,I'd like to pick up the paydays and the enhanced legacy,wouldnt you?
Arum is just talking nonsense again,I mean when he had Floyd, was he not the one saying Floyd is the best boxer he has ever had etc etc. He's just doing his job I guess.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by miles
There are a lot of great matchups in this division for PBF to take on, but with his recent opponent selection I fear that a number of great match ups wont come through....we could have Mosley, Cotto, Margarito but I doubt these would be easy fights to make...
EXACTLY! It pisses me off when you hear PBF fans say what has so and so done to deserve a shot etc etc all that BS. Boxers fight each other to see who the best is,they fight the threats,the challengers etc. Look at alll these fights PBF has missed for one reason or another: Freitas/Casamayor/Tszyu/Spadafora etc et and then Cotto,Mosley,Margarito. If he is being honesy about retiring after the Oscar fight,he is missing out and ESPECIALLY as he thinks he is good enough to beat all these guys,I'd like to pick up the paydays and the enhanced legacy,wouldnt you?
Arum is just talking nonsense again,I mean when he had Floyd, was he not the one saying Floyd is the best boxer he has ever had etc etc. He's just doing his job I guess.
Agreed. Arum is just being Arum and trying to sell his fighters.
As for Floyd? Well, if beating an aged and semi active DelaHoya is really the pinnacle then it shows you how deluded he is. To retire on that would be a sham. A complete farce! DelaHoya will be coming off a scond very lengthy lay off. And Floyd is at his best. Floyd may be moving up in weight, but he is not exactly Mayorga!! ;D
I think PBF can and will beat Oscar. DelaHoya was a great fighter but these long layoffs will show, and I see PBF outboxing him...
To retire on that and say "That proves im the best"...well, that is a fallacy...
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by miles
There are a lot of great matchups in this division for PBF to take on, but with his recent opponent selection I fear that a number of great match ups wont come through....we could have Mosley, Cotto, Margarito but I doubt these would be easy fights to make...
EXACTLY! It pisses me off when you hear PBF fans say what has so and so done to deserve a shot etc etc all that BS. Boxers fight each other to see who the best is,they fight the threats,the challengers etc. Look at alll these fights PBF has missed for one reason or another: Freitas/Casamayor/Tszyu/Spadafora etc et and then Cotto,Mosley,Margarito. If he is being honesy about retiring after the Oscar fight,he is missing out and ESPECIALLY as he thinks he is good enough to beat all these guys,I'd like to pick up the paydays and the enhanced legacy,wouldnt you?
Arum is just talking nonsense again,I mean when he had Floyd, was he not the one saying Floyd is the best boxer he has ever had etc etc. He's just doing his job I guess.
Agreed. Arum is just being Arum and trying to sell his fighters.
As for Floyd? Well, if beating an aged and semi active DelaHoya is really the pinnacle then it shows you how deluded he is. To retire on that would be a sham. A complete farce! DelaHoya will be coming off a scond very lengthy lay off. And Floyd is at his best. Floyd may be moving up in weight, but he is not exactly Mayorga!! ;D
I think PBF can and will beat Oscar. DelaHoya was a great fighter but these long layoffs will show, and I see PBF outboxing him...
To retire on that and say "That proves im the best"...well, that is a fallacy...
Totally agree and although Oscar Floyd will be a great spectacle,I honestly do not see how Oscar will win. People say the size advantage etc but most of the guys Floyd has fought have size advantages. Oscar is coming off yet ANOTHER long layoff,has had like 3 fights in2/3 years etc and Mayorga is hardly ideal preperation for Floyd is he. Like I said when the fight was made,it'll be an amazin gspectacle,a promoters dream but I don't think the fight will be that good,I think there will be a win for Floyd and a possible rematch.
And although Floyd will get alot of credit if he beats Oscar,it'll be more to do with the weight than actually beating Oscar.Fallacy indeed Mr. Miles...excellent points you made there and glad to see someone else here has their head in the right place.
Do you envisage any way in which Oscar wins?
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by miles
There are a lot of great matchups in this division for PBF to take on, but with his recent opponent selection I fear that a number of great match ups wont come through....we could have Mosley, Cotto, Margarito but I doubt these would be easy fights to make...
EXACTLY! It pisses me off when you hear PBF fans say what has so and so done to deserve a shot etc etc all that BS. Boxers fight each other to see who the best is,they fight the threats,the challengers etc. Look at alll these fights PBF has missed for one reason or another: Freitas/Casamayor/Tszyu/Spadafora etc et and then Cotto,Mosley,Margarito. If he is being honesy about retiring after the Oscar fight,he is missing out and ESPECIALLY as he thinks he is good enough to beat all these guys,I'd like to pick up the paydays and the enhanced legacy,wouldnt you?
Arum is just talking nonsense again,I mean when he had Floyd, was he not the one saying Floyd is the best boxer he has ever had etc etc. He's just doing his job I guess.
Agreed. Arum is just being Arum and trying to sell his fighters.
As for Floyd? Well, if beating an aged and semi active DelaHoya is really the pinnacle then it shows you how deluded he is. To retire on that would be a sham. A complete farce! DelaHoya will be coming off a scond very lengthy lay off. And Floyd is at his best. Floyd may be moving up in weight, but he is not exactly Mayorga!! ;D
I think PBF can and will beat Oscar. DelaHoya was a great fighter but these long layoffs will show, and I see PBF outboxing him...
To retire on that and say "That proves im the best"...well, that is a fallacy...
Totally agree and although Oscar Floyd will be a great spectacle,I honestly do not see how Oscar will win. People say the size advantage etc but most of the guys Floyd has fought have size advantages. Oscar is coming off yet ANOTHER long layoff,has had like 3 fights in2/3 years etc and Mayorga is hardly ideal preperation for Floyd is he. Like I said when the fight was made,it'll be an amazin gspectacle,a promoters dream but I don't think the fight will be that good,I think there will be a win for Floyd and a possible rematch.
And although Floyd will get alot of credit if he beats Oscar,it'll be more to do with the weight than actually beating Oscar.Fallacy indeed Mr. Miles...excellent points you made there and glad to see someone else here has their head in the right place.
Do you envisage any way in which Oscar wins?
If Oscar wants to win then he's got to mix it up. He cannot be respecting PBF too much or else PBF is going to stick and move. Actually, I like Oscar a lot, but I just dont see him pulling off the career finale at all. Like you say Floyd has handled bigger men his entire career. Baldomir barely laid a glove on him! Oscar has to be the aggresor and let the hands go. He's got to push Floyd to the ropes and rip the body. Let him feel that power! If he holds back then he will be taken apart by jabs and combos.
These "hollywood" endings are great for movies but seldom relate to the boxing world...
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by miles
There are a lot of great matchups in this division for PBF to take on, but with his recent opponent selection I fear that a number of great match ups wont come through....we could have Mosley, Cotto, Margarito but I doubt these would be easy fights to make...
EXACTLY! It pisses me off when you hear PBF fans say what has so and so done to deserve a shot etc etc all that BS. Boxers fight each other to see who the best is,they fight the threats,the challengers etc. Look at alll these fights PBF has missed for one reason or another: Freitas/Casamayor/Tszyu/Spadafora etc et and then Cotto,Mosley,Margarito. If he is being honesy about retiring after the Oscar fight,he is missing out and ESPECIALLY as he thinks he is good enough to beat all these guys,I'd like to pick up the paydays and the enhanced legacy,wouldnt you?
Arum is just talking nonsense again,I mean when he had Floyd, was he not the one saying Floyd is the best boxer he has ever had etc etc. He's just doing his job I guess.
Agreed. Arum is just being Arum and trying to sell his fighters.
As for Floyd? Well, if beating an aged and semi active DelaHoya is really the pinnacle then it shows you how deluded he is. To retire on that would be a sham. A complete farce! DelaHoya will be coming off a scond very lengthy lay off. And Floyd is at his best. Floyd may be moving up in weight, but he is not exactly Mayorga!! ;D
I think PBF can and will beat Oscar. DelaHoya was a great fighter but these long layoffs will show, and I see PBF outboxing him...
To retire on that and say "That proves im the best"...well, that is a fallacy...
Good points. CC
I agree, beating Oscar will not solidify PBF's claims to greatness and it will not silence his critics. Maybe he should fight Larry Merchant before he retires.
Funny how Arum got off the Tony Margarito "Boogie Man Express" and is now saying that Cotto is the man to beat PBF ;D either way, we have two young hungry lions waiting to call PBF's bluff. PBF likes fighting aged boxers and soft hitters. He don't want to phuk with the young hard hitting lions. I say the BOY is a coward and will go down as that.
Is it me or has Bob Arum thrown Tony Margarito under the bus?
;D
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by miles
There are a lot of great matchups in this division for PBF to take on, but with his recent opponent selection I fear that a number of great match ups wont come through....we could have Mosley, Cotto, Margarito but I doubt these would be easy fights to make...
EXACTLY! It pisses me off when you hear PBF fans say what has so and so done to deserve a shot etc etc all that BS. Boxers fight each other to see who the best is,they fight the threats,the challengers etc. Look at alll these fights PBF has missed for one reason or another: Freitas/Casamayor/Tszyu/Spadafora etc et and then Cotto,Mosley,Margarito. If he is being honesy about retiring after the Oscar fight,he is missing out and ESPECIALLY as he thinks he is good enough to beat all these guys,I'd like to pick up the paydays and the enhanced legacy,wouldnt you?
Arum is just talking nonsense again,I mean when he had Floyd, was he not the one saying Floyd is the best boxer he has ever had etc etc. He's just doing his job I guess.
Agreed. Arum is just being Arum and trying to sell his fighters.
As for Floyd? Well, if beating an aged and semi active DelaHoya is really the pinnacle then it shows you how deluded he is. To retire on that would be a sham. A complete farce! DelaHoya will be coming off a scond very lengthy lay off. And Floyd is at his best. Floyd may be moving up in weight, but he is not exactly Mayorga!! ;D
I think PBF can and will beat Oscar. DelaHoya was a great fighter but these long layoffs will show, and I see PBF outboxing him...
To retire on that and say "That proves im the best"...well, that is a fallacy...
Good points. CC
I agree, beating Oscar will not solidify PBF's claims to greatness and it will not silence his critics. Maybe he should fight Larry Merchant before he retires.
Funny how Arum got off the Tony Margarito "Boogie Man Express" and is now saying that Cotto is the man to beat PBF ;D either way, we have two young hungry lions waiting to call PBF's bluff. PBF likes fighting aged boxers and soft hitters. He don't want to phuk with the young hard hitting lions. I say the BOY is a coward and will go down as that.
Is it me or has Bob Arum thrown Tony Margarito under the bus?
;D
CC, right back
A lot of the clamour for Margarito: PBF does seem to have quietened. Personally, Im more excited about the prospects of Cotto right now....Cotto: Margarito would be a great fight too...Would give PBF chills!
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
This will be another good reason for Floyd to retire. He better not come into the WWD unless he wants his pretty little azz kicked. Floyd would suffer the same fate Paulette Malignagi faced (no pun intended) Cotto only needs a few hard shots to break these little Pretty running Boys of the squared circle. ;)
I guess the headlines will read..
"Floyd was scared into retirement."
;D
just because he didnt want to fight someone with no real recognition aka margarito doesnt mean he would duck cotto he probably will fight cotto after his oscar fight should he win it i notice you seem to hate mayweather what dont you like about him his style or his attitude ??
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
This will be another good reason for Floyd to retire. He better not come into the WWD unless he wants his pretty little azz kicked. Floyd would suffer the same fate Paulette Malignagi faced (no pun intended) Cotto only needs a few hard shots to break these little Pretty running Boys of the squared circle. ;)
I guess the headlines will read..
"Floyd was scared into retirement."
;D
just because he didnt want to fight someone with no real recognition aka margarito doesnt mean he would duck cotto he probably will fight cotto after his oscar fight should he win it i notice you seem to hate mayweather what dont you like about him his style or his attitude ??
I myself like Mayweather, but have issues with his opponent selection...If he was to fight Cotto after beating DLH then fair play! ;)
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
This will be another good reason for Floyd to retire. He better not come into the WWD unless he wants his pretty little azz kicked. Floyd would suffer the same fate Paulette Malignagi faced (no pun intended) Cotto only needs a few hard shots to break these little Pretty running Boys of the squared circle. ;)
I guess the headlines will read..
"Floyd was scared into retirement."
;D
just because he didnt want to fight someone with no real recognition aka margarito doesnt mean he would duck cotto he probably will fight cotto after his oscar fight should he win it i notice you seem to hate mayweather what dont you like about him his style or his attitude ??
I myself like Mayweather, but have issues with his opponent selection...If he was to fight Cotto after beating DLH then fair play! ;)
if he did that then not even the man himself danny g could hate on him then :P
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
This will be another good reason for Floyd to retire. He better not come into the WWD unless he wants his pretty little azz kicked. Floyd would suffer the same fate Paulette Malignagi faced (no pun intended) Cotto only needs a few hard shots to break these little Pretty running Boys of the squared circle. ;)
I guess the headlines will read..
"Floyd was scared into retirement."
;D
just because he didnt want to fight someone with no real recognition aka margarito doesnt mean he would duck cotto he probably will fight cotto after his oscar fight should he win it i notice you seem to hate mayweather what dont you like about him his style or his attitude ??
I myself like Mayweather, but have issues with his opponent selection...If he was to fight Cotto after beating DLH then fair play! ;)
if he did that then not even the man himself danny g could hate on him then :P
on that then we must agree!! ;D
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Is this the same Bob Arum that said Floyd was a greater fighter then SRL!? ONE WORD-IDIOT
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
This will be another good reason for Floyd to retire. He better not come into the WWD unless he wants his pretty little azz kicked. Floyd would suffer the same fate Paulette Malignagi faced (no pun intended) Cotto only needs a few hard shots to break these little Pretty running Boys of the squared circle. ;)
I guess the headlines will read..
"Floyd was scared into retirement."
;D
just because he didnt want to fight someone with no real recognition aka margarito doesnt mean he would duck cotto he probably will fight cotto after his oscar fight should he win it i notice you seem to hate mayweather what dont you like about him his style or his attitude ??
For PBF to run around saying nobody knows who Tony Margarito is was bullshiet and he knows it. He has been afraid of Tony for sometime now and he knew who Tony is.
What I don't like about his style? His elbow to the face, neck and throat while in a clinch and while pushing off is not a legal boxing tactic and he should be penalized for doing it everytime.
One of his PBF's fan boys says he uses his forearm but I have watched him use his elbow.
Here are some quotes from one of his fan boys:
"Also Floyd is Like a finally tuned sports car, but we forget Prettty Boy Floyd has a few tricks as well:
1) Floyd likes to push the forearm in the throat when coming out of the break(which will wear you out over time)
2)Floyd also likes to bear down on the back of your neck going into the clinch as well(also designed to wear you out)
I like the Mayweather Forearm pressing down the back of the head as well as Pushing off and pushing off with the Forearm under the nose grinding as he pushes off....
Another thing I don't like about Floyd is that he runs from fighters who have no power. The great fighters of yesteryear would never run from soft hitters ;D they would knock them out. No one would boo or leave before their fights were over :lickish:
And as far as his attitude outside of the ring? I say he is bi polar and he is not an embassador of this sport.
^-^
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Is this the same Bob Arum that said Floyd was a greater fighter then SRL!? ONE WORD-IDIOT
Arum knows that was a lie. He would have never given up PBF if he thought this was true.
Just like Lou DiBella was looking for that fighter to beat Hopkins, Bob Arum is looking for that fighter who can beat Mayweather Jr.
We all know that Bob Arum can't stand that little weasle PBF no more than Lou DiBella liked that snaggletooth age wonder B-Hop. ;D
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i admit that floyds skill r imrpesive nd he deserves to b no1 p4p but i think that if he thoght kostya he would have been stopped in the the late stages of the fight by a right hand but then again floyd might of been able to slip away from kostya's punches alnight long cos he never had the speed to match floyds but then again no1 does
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
This will be another good reason for Floyd to retire. He better not come into the WWD unless he wants his pretty little azz kicked. Floyd would suffer the same fate Paulette Malignagi faced (no pun intended) Cotto only needs a few hard shots to break these little Pretty running Boys of the squared circle. ;)
I guess the headlines will read..
"Floyd was scared into retirement."
;D
Gee danny...
My man what you smoking on :P
Malignaggi cannot be mocked... Doesnt matter how hard you try..That was a quality performance from paulie..He kasted the distance no?
And made a slight comeback ..given the curcumstances..Thats a hella accomplishment!!
Yeh cotto is a bad bad fighter but thats no reason to put down paulie for what he did that night...Its just somewhat crazed...
And in all reality..Floyd would not get killed by miguel..Both extremely bad fighters..
But no chance it would be a landslide..Just not reality!
Peace
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
This will be another good reason for Floyd to retire. He better not come into the WWD unless he wants his pretty little azz kicked. Floyd would suffer the same fate Paulette Malignagi faced (no pun intended) Cotto only needs a few hard shots to break these little Pretty running Boys of the squared circle. ;)
I guess the headlines will read..
"Floyd was scared into retirement."
;D
Gee danny...
My man what you smoking on :P
Malignaggi cannot be mocked... Doesnt matter how hard you try..That was a quality performance from paulie..He kasted the distance no?
And made a slight comeback ..given the curcumstances..Thats a hella accomplishment!!
Yeh cotto is a bad bad fighter but thats no reason to put down paulie for what he did that night...Its just somewhat crazed...
And in all reality..Floyd would not get killed by miguel..Both extremely bad fighters..
But no chance it would be a landslide..Just not reality!
Peace
Cotto was kicking the kids ass until?
Cotto suffered a boxers fracture which means Cotto was fighting with only one hand.
He went the distance against a one handed drained fighter. If Paulie moves up to 147 like he says he will do and fight Cotto again, you will see Paulie get destroyed in about 4 rounds or less regardless of how big the ring is or how much Paulie tries to run. ;)
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
This will be another good reason for Floyd to retire. He better not come into the WWD unless he wants his pretty little azz kicked. Floyd would suffer the same fate Paulette Malignagi faced (no pun intended) Cotto only needs a few hard shots to break these little Pretty running Boys of the squared circle. ;)
I guess the headlines will read..
"Floyd was scared into retirement."
;D
Gee danny...
My man what you smoking on :P
Malignaggi cannot be mocked... Doesnt matter how hard you try..That was a quality performance from paulie..He kasted the distance no?
And made a slight comeback ..given the curcumstances..Thats a hella accomplishment!!
Yeh cotto is a bad bad fighter but thats no reason to put down paulie for what he did that night...Its just somewhat crazed...
And in all reality..Floyd would not get killed by miguel..Both extremely bad fighters..
But no chance it would be a landslide..Just not reality!
Peace
Cotto was kicking the kids ass until?
Cotto suffered a boxers fracture which means Cotto was fighting with only one hand.
He went the distance against a one handed drained fighter. If Paulie moves up to 147 like he says he will do and fight Cotto again, you will see Paulie get destroyed in about 4 rounds or less regardless of how big the ring is or how much Paulie tries to run. ;)
I dont know if you noticed..But paulie didnt run!!
He boxed.But ohh perhaps they are not supposed to box and/or make it hard for dear miguel :P
lol..Thats not even right..You have such a one sided opinion when it comes to cotto..
Only time till tell what happens..
But you can claim all this ..Oh boxers fractures etc..
BUT..You still give pbf shet about his boxers fractures.. and how hes shit bla bla
and if we want to bring misfortunaste circumstances into it..
I bet you dont take the fact that paulie's first world title shot was against a quality fighter like miguel and he got cut during the first round of the fight on top of cotto's weight advantage after draining himself and blowing up in wieght before fight night..
Shall we count this mini arguement out? yes i think so...
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
This will be another good reason for Floyd to retire. He better not come into the WWD unless he wants his pretty little azz kicked. Floyd would suffer the same fate Paulette Malignagi faced (no pun intended) Cotto only needs a few hard shots to break these little Pretty running Boys of the squared circle. ;)
I guess the headlines will read..
"Floyd was scared into retirement."
;D
Gee danny...
My man what you smoking on :P
Malignaggi cannot be mocked... Doesnt matter how hard you try..That was a quality performance from paulie..He kasted the distance no?
And made a slight comeback ..given the curcumstances..Thats a hella accomplishment!!
Yeh cotto is a bad bad fighter but thats no reason to put down paulie for what he did that night...Its just somewhat crazed...
And in all reality..Floyd would not get killed by miguel..Both extremely bad fighters..
But no chance it would be a landslide..Just not reality!
Peace
Cotto was kicking the kids ass until?
Cotto suffered a boxers fracture which means Cotto was fighting with only one hand.
He went the distance against a one handed drained fighter. If Paulie moves up to 147 like he says he will do and fight Cotto again, you will see Paulie get destroyed in about 4 rounds or less regardless of how big the ring is or how much Paulie tries to run. ;)
I dont know if you noticed..But paulie didnt run!!
He boxed.But ohh perhaps they are not supposed to box and/or make it hard for dear miguel :P
lol..Thats not even right..You have such a one sided opinion when it comes to cotto..
Only time till tell what happens..
But you can claim all this ..Oh boxers fractures etc..
BUT..You still give pbf shet about his boxers fractures.. and how hes shit bla bla
and if we want to bring misfortunaste circumstances into it..
I bet you dont take the fact that paulie's first world title shot was against a quality fighter like miguel and he got cut during the first round of the fight on top of cotto's weight advantage after draining himself and blowing up in wieght before fight night..
Shall we count this mini arguement out? yes i think so...
LMAO!
Paulie had no where to run.
;D
Cotto did have a boxers fracture against Paulie.
PBF against Baldomir? PBF broke a nail ;D
Cotto was in a cast while PBF only needed a small bandage and some new pink nail polish ;D
You know in your heart PBF will not come down to the young lions den.
I wont even give PBF any credit for fighting Spinks if he decides to do so. Spinks is another softie.
I am hoping PBF retires so you and I don't have to have these arguments anymore.
Why do you have to bring in other people? I stand alone in my arguments. Are you going to join the PBF wannabe's Internet Gang members association?
Hold your own and don't bring them up in the conversation unless you are just a follower who needs their help ???
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
This will be another good reason for Floyd to retire. He better not come into the WWD unless he wants his pretty little azz kicked. Floyd would suffer the same fate Paulette Malignagi faced (no pun intended) Cotto only needs a few hard shots to break these little Pretty running Boys of the squared circle. ;)
I guess the headlines will read..
"Floyd was scared into retirement."
;D
Gee danny...
My man what you smoking on :P
Malignaggi cannot be mocked... Doesnt matter how hard you try..That was a quality performance from paulie..He kasted the distance no?
And made a slight comeback ..given the curcumstances..Thats a hella accomplishment!!
Yeh cotto is a bad bad fighter but thats no reason to put down paulie for what he did that night...Its just somewhat crazed...
And in all reality..Floyd would not get killed by miguel..Both extremely bad fighters..
But no chance it would be a landslide..Just not reality!
Peace
Cotto was kicking the kids a** until?
Cotto suffered a boxers fracture which means Cotto was fighting with only one hand.
He went the distance against a one handed drained fighter. If Paulie moves up to 147 like he says he will do and fight Cotto again, you will see Paulie get destroyed in about 4 rounds or less regardless of how big the ring is or how much Paulie tries to run. ;)
I dont know if you noticed..But paulie didnt run!!
He boxed.But ohh perhaps they are not supposed to box and/or make it hard for dear miguel :P
lol..Thats not even right..You have such a one sided opinion when it comes to cotto..
Only time till tell what happens..
But you can claim all this ..Oh boxers fractures etc..
BUT..You still give pbf shet about his boxers fractures.. and how hes S*** bla bla
and if we want to bring misfortunaste circumstances into it..
I bet you dont take the fact that paulie's first world title shot was against a quality fighter like miguel and he got cut during the first round of the fight on top of cotto's weight advantage after draining himself and blowing up in wieght before fight night..
Shall we count this mini arguement out? yes i think so...
LMAO!
Paulie had no where to run.
;D
Cotto did have a boxers fracture against Paulie.
PBF against Baldomir? PBF broke a nail ;D
Cotto was in a cast while PBF only needed a small bandage and some new pink nail polish ;D
You know in your heart PBF will not come down to the young lions den.
I wont even give PBF any credit for fighting Spinks if he decides to do so. Spinks is another softie.
I am hoping PBF retires so you and I don't have to have these arguments anymore.
Why do you have to bring in other people? I stand alone in my arguments. Are you going to join the PBF wannabe's Internet Gang members association?
Hold your own and don't bring them up in the conversation unless you are just a follower who needs their help ???
fighting delahoya at 154 is much riskier than fighting cotto at 147
deal with it
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Re: Bob Arum: "Cotto Would Break Mayweather"
Wait, Bob Arum said Cotto would break PBF?!?! What the hell happened to Margarito?
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This will be another good reason for Floyd to retire. He better not come into the WWD unless he wants his pretty little azz kicked. Floyd would suffer the same fate Paulette Malignagi faced (no pun intended) Cotto only needs a few hard shots to break these little Pretty running Boys of the squared circle. ;)
I guess the headlines will read..
"Floyd was scared into retirement."
;D
Gee danny...
My man what you smoking on :P
Malignaggi cannot be mocked... Doesnt matter how hard you try..That was a quality performance from paulie..He kasted the distance no?
And made a slight comeback ..given the curcumstances..Thats a hella accomplishment!!
Yeh cotto is a bad bad fighter but thats no reason to put down paulie for what he did that night...Its just somewhat crazed...
And in all reality..Floyd would not get killed by miguel..Both extremely bad fighters..
But no chance it would be a landslide..Just not reality!
Peace
Cotto was kicking the kids a** until?
Cotto suffered a boxers fracture which means Cotto was fighting with only one hand.
He went the distance against a one handed drained fighter. If Paulie moves up to 147 like he says he will do and fight Cotto again, you will see Paulie get destroyed in about 4 rounds or less regardless of how big the ring is or how much Paulie tries to run. ;)
I dont know if you noticed..But paulie didnt run!!
He boxed.But ohh perhaps they are not supposed to box and/or make it hard for dear miguel :P
lol..Thats not even right..You have such a one sided opinion when it comes to cotto..
Only time till tell what happens..
But you can claim all this ..Oh boxers fractures etc..
BUT..You still give pbf shet about his boxers fractures.. and how hes S*** bla bla
and if we want to bring misfortunaste circumstances into it..
I bet you dont take the fact that paulie's first world title shot was against a quality fighter like miguel and he got cut during the first round of the fight on top of cotto's weight advantage after draining himself and blowing up in wieght before fight night..
Shall we count this mini arguement out? yes i think so...
LMAO!
Paulie had no where to run.
;D
Cotto did have a boxers fracture against Paulie.
PBF against Baldomir? PBF broke a nail ;D
Cotto was in a cast while PBF only needed a small bandage and some new pink nail polish ;D
You know in your heart PBF will not come down to the young lions den.
I wont even give PBF any credit for fighting Spinks if he decides to do so. Spinks is another softie.
I am hoping PBF retires so you and I don't have to have these arguments anymore.
Why do you have to bring in other people? I stand alone in my arguments. Are you going to join the PBF wannabe's Internet Gang members association?
Hold your own and don't bring them up in the conversation unless you are just a follower who needs their help ???
fighting delahoya at 154 is much riskier than fighting cotto at 147
deal with it
Please!
PBF is going to beat Oscar with his jab and his pop shots to the mid section alone and all night long.
The only way Oscar stands a chance of catching Floyd is if Oscar after the first round removes his gloves and does one of those MMA take downs by sweeping Floyd off of his feet. You know Oscar is going to look stupid against that razor pin point accurate jab Floyd has. Mayweather Sr. has no secrets in helping Oscar win. Floyd will run circles around the old man.
No risk!
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Re: Bob Arum: "Cotto Would Break Mayweather"
If you hate Floyd now, just imagine how bad it will be once he dispatches Oscar, takes home $20 million, and is hailed as an all time great, while at the same time walking away from the sport, leaving every other boxer grasping for a vacant meaningless title, just as it was for every NBA player when Jordan left? You won't be able to stand it and I'll be laughing my @ss off :lickish:
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Re: Bob Arum: "Cotto Would Break Mayweather"
If Floyd retires after the Oscar fight, I'll turn my back on him for leaving unfinished business. As far as Cotto goes, he'll lose to Floyd. He's good, but not good enough.
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If you hate Floyd now, just imagine how bad it will be once he dispatches Oscar, takes home $20 million, and is hailed as an all time great, while at the same time walking away from the sport, leaving every other boxer grasping for a vacant meaningless title, just as it was for every NBA player when Jordan left? You won't be able to stand it and I'll be laughing my @ss off :lickish:
I hope he does retire and I will know what a real coward he was and is.
If he retires, it will only solidify my claims to his cowardness.
Scared into retirement while still in his prime.
Chicken.
Like mister T said.
Dont give him no statue!
Give him guts!
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Floyd Mayweather=#1 P4P fighter in the world and soon to be rich man with $20 million more in his bank account
Danny_G= sad little boy with no possibility of fame or wealth ever in his life ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
bye :lickish:
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Floyd Mayweather=#1 P4P fighter in the world and soon to be rich man with $20 million more in his bank account
Danny_G= sad little boy with no possibility of fame or wealth ever in his life ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
bye :lickish:
Here we go again another PBF nuthugger making personal attacks.
You have nothing left to say and you have no leg to stand on and that is where the personal attacks come in.
I do not need tremendous wealth or the Devils fame to be happy.
True happiness does not come from fame or money.
Happiness comes from within.
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5...byfloydlh4.jpg
In this photo, PBF has $8 million more in the bank and a huge audience and there is no doubt he is famous but why is he crying? He don't look too happy to me.
Some day you too will understand what the true meaning of happiness is.
You are clueless.
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Floyd Mayweather=#1 P4P fighter in the world and soon to be rich man with $20 million more in his bank account
Danny_G= sad little boy with no possibility of fame or wealth ever in his life ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
bye :lickish:
Here we go again another PBF fan making personal attacks.
You have nothing left to say and you have no leg to stand on and that is where the personal attacks come in.
I do not need tremendous wealth or the Devils fame to be happy.
True happiness does not come from fame or money.
Happiness comes from within.
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5...byfloydlh4.jpg
In this photo, PBF has $8 million more in the bank and a huge audience and there is no doubt he is famous but why is he crying? He don't look too happy to me.
Some day you too will understand what the true meaning of happiness is.
You are clueless.
Miguel Cotto doesn't look too happy to me here,http://www.thesweetscience.com/image...230_101505.jpg, yet I'm sure he is.
If you honestly judge people's happiness by a friggin' snapshot photo, you're the one who doesn't have a clue.
sorry
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Floyd Mayweather=#1 P4P fighter in the world and soon to be rich man with $20 million more in his bank account
Danny_G= sad little boy with no possibility of fame or wealth ever in his life ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
bye :lickish:
Here we go again another PBF fan making personal attacks.
You have nothing left to say and you have no leg to stand on and that is where the personal attacks come in.
I do not need tremendous wealth or the Devils fame to be happy.
True happiness does not come from fame or money.
Happiness comes from within.
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5...byfloydlh4.jpg
In this photo, PBF has $8 million more in the bank and a huge audience and there is no doubt he is famous but why is he crying? He don't look too happy to me.
Some day you too will understand what the true meaning of happiness is.
You are clueless.
Miguel Cotto doesn't look too happy to me here,
http://www.thesweetscience.com/image...230_101505.jpg, yet I'm sure he is.
If you honestly judge people's happiness by a friggin' snapshot photo, you're the one who doesn't have a clue.
sorry
skyler, you just contradicted yourself.
Typical.
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Re: Bob Arum: "Cotto Would Break Mayweather"
Well..Looks like i passed out at the right time last night...
Ahhh the personal attacks dont work for me..I try my best not to use em...
But follow people bringin people in..nahh that bull.
Im not even really a floyd or a cotto fan..But neither can just be dismissed..
I personally dont understand cotto's appeal..
I used to for floyd..But i feel he went a bit too far too quick and claimed on things too big ..
I mean fair is fair..Floyd is a bad fighter.. held at least a wbc title from Sf to WW
but it seems so meainingless when he does it..Bcos he is so talented, He makes me focus on his bad attitude, he's vainness of getting the wbc titles instead of always beating linear champs.. (Which as far as im concerned he's still done the business at lightweight and welter)
and made the fights where the money was at..
But never mind this..
All these claims of personal attacks are pretty false..
Its just gets a little petty here no?.. But none the less dan doesnt deserve peronal crap given to him
But should also have more base to his arguement rather then just his dislike of pbf and the crazy amounts of Floyd hatin comments and/ or pictures lol
Peace
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fucck arum. 2 years later hed be another don king
ive never seen any fighter whos been mocked to death
for playing his strengths and doing what he does best
if floyd had brawl agaisnt these biggies, i would be laughing at him
but aint no way in hell i'll diss on him if he does what hes supposed to
fans want floyd to brawl when he boxes (which he is best at)
fans want pac to box when he brawls (which he is best at)
you dont call 'em fans - you call them haters
if haters says floyd aint fighting the best out there unlike pac
i may have to agree. but hes fighting ODLH next?!?
ODLH is prolly more than the best for him. so ceasefire haters
not until may - either you thrived or you wont survive
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I think Floyd will call out Hatton at either 147 or catch weight to simply avoid Cotto, that would still be a MASSIVE fight with less risk for Floyd and still big money. Then maybe take on cotto after that.
If he fights spinks people will just turn their backs on him. If he retires after ODLH, I personally would never see him as an all time great fighter..Although I think Oscar has a very good chance of sparking Floyd clean out, people thought the Baldo weight was gonna cause problems for Floyd, and it did to an extent, in the sense Floyd hit and run when I aint sure he needed to.The guy will be like a frightened rabbit against Oscar, cos oscar will be able to cut the ring off and find pretty boy much more effectively than old Baldy IMO ;)
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Re: Bob Arum: "Cotto Would Break Mayweather"
i think where forgetting what this topic is about. would cotto beat mayweather. cotto would f uck mayweather up i would put my house on it. if they ever do meet remember my name and hold me to it. mayweather would not even want cotto. cotto would give him nightmares
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i think where forgetting what this topic is about. would cotto beat mayweather. cotto would f uck mayweather up i would put my house on it. if they ever do meet remember my name and hold me to it. mayweather would not even want cotto. cotto would give him nightmares
In that case then yeah I think Cotto at 147 would beat Floyd..
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i think where forgetting what this topic is about. would cotto beat mayweather. cotto would f uck mayweather up i would put my house on it. if they ever do meet remember my name and hold me to it. mayweather would not even want cotto. cotto would give him nightmares
Its all good saying so...
But how did you come to this conclusion?
In example..You say miguel beats cotto easy..Nothing on the top tier of boxing is easy, but.. anyway
Say that you think miguel will do so because he has more power then floyd or perhaps then floyd can take..
You would then say floyd got slightly rocked by maybe corley and judah..
Then You might say well...Miguel Can cut the ring off well.. And you would say just like he did to John Doe..
And that would bring on comparison on what miguel needs to do to beat floyd.. and whether he can or has done this in the past..And how his former opponents in which he has managed to do these things compare to floyd..
That is the way to have a solid arguement..
Its cannot be.. Because miguel is a big name, is a good lookin guy and i have picked him as my favourite fighter because he is one of the best and undefeated.. Thats just glory supporting..
Mind you ..this is not accusation on my part..
But these characteristics and/or breakdowns of what might/could or would happen must be done so that somebody has a solid arguement.. We cannot just have people bieng unrealistic and stating that floyd stands no chance against a man who has never really been comparable to floyd in ways such as commen opponents,
Career paths or much else...
Hope to see someone come out with some good arguement ;)
Peace
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Re: Bob Arum: "Cotto Would Break Mayweather"
yes mate i no what ur sayin. my argument is i think cotto would beat floyd because of a few things.1 bein the power factor. 2 bein cottos abilty to cut off the ring. we all saw in the baldomir fight that floyd hit and run and in that fight i felt baldomir could of chased floyd down and close him off better. in comparison to cotto quintana. quintana applied the same tactics to cotto box on the outside,hit and move.im not sayin quintana is as good as floyd but u can see what im sayin. 3rdly i think cottos speed is very underated. i think he applies great accuracy with his punchin aswell. i would love to see mayweather cotto. i aint no cotto lover or mayweather lover im just goin on what i see mate. over all i think the only way mayweather could fight cotto would to do what he has done since he has moved in the higher weights. hit and move. i just cant see cotto givin him any time and space no matter how slick mayweather is. i see a late stoppage by cotto.
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yes mate i no what ur sayin. my argument is i think cotto would beat floyd because of a few things.1 bein the power factor. 2 bein cottos abilty to cut off the ring. we all saw in the baldomir fight that floyd hit and run and in that fight i felt baldomir could of chased floyd down and close him off better. in comparison to cotto quintana. quintana applied the same tactics to cotto box on the outside,hit and move.im not sayin quintana is as good as floyd but u can see what im sayin. 3rdly i think cottos speed is very underated. i think he applies great accuracy with his punchin aswell. i would love to see mayweather cotto. i aint no cotto lover or mayweather lover im just goin on what i see mate. over all i think the only way mayweather could fight cotto would to do what he has done since he has moved in the higher weights. hit and move. i just cant see cotto givin him any time and space no matter how slick mayweather is. i see a late stoppage by cotto.
Nice one brother.. CC
Yeh i hear ya.. Cotto is underrated when it comes to the subtleties in what he offers such as speed, footwork and movement etc..
I personally cant see floyd bieng stopped..Maybe ever?..If there is anyone to do it..I would say it would be oscar or sugar shane... More of an maybe/if for shane..Cos im not certain that shane would beat floyd.
While nobody credits cotto's speed and accuracy its much like alot of the fighters out there that get little credit..
they're not amazing at any one thing.. Just all round solid fighters..
I cant say i can think of anyone who really tested miguel to make him cut off the ring and give him slight trouble..
Quintana is good..But yet i still feel although it was a wicked victory..
Im still giving him prospects credit.. Like joe calzaghie vs lacy..Yeh lacy was the champ and was a big name for the rec...I dont believe either fighter has come into theyr own yet, or quite hit theyr primes..
Both will be back i presume..
The only other test i can think of is the early rounds against magic man malignaggi..
Miguel cuts of the ring ok..Not text book.. But he did lay alot of traps.. He knew that paulie was moving side to side and when he say banged paulie with a right hook to the body..Paulie moves away to his left and miguel would throw a left hook to catch him before he was out of range..He gets little credit for bieng a smart fighter..
But is smarter then he is credited for..
As for floyd..Floyd can certainly move..Certainly hard to read.. And if he is one the ropes you gotta be smart..
Theres floyd on the ropes against sayy..Phillip Ndou..Ndou throws constant left right hooks to body and head but that is all..It smothers but floyds defence is far to great to penetrate with constant, yet visible shots..
Or theres Floyd vs Jlc..Jlc brought the right to the ropes scored his points and wasted very few shots..mixed up the attack and floyd couldnt defend in the same way.. He could just move back..And then had to force himself to start his offense again..
Personally..I dont know if cotto beats floyd or not as he has shown skill in the right area's but not been used against the right people....
So maybe miguel has some big fights this year..
Maybe floyd doesnt retire and maybe they sign the fight..
And perhaps by then its clearer to see what the odds are ;)
Peace
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This will be another good reason for Floyd to retire. He better not come into the WWD unless he wants his pretty little azz kicked. Floyd would suffer the same fate Paulette Malignagi faced (no pun intended) Cotto only needs a few hard shots to break these little Pretty running Boys of the squared circle. ;)
I guess the headlines will read..
"Floyd was scared into retirement."
;D
Bob Arum is an asshole. He's only running his mouth because he doesnt like Floyd. Mayweather would do to Cotto what he does to everyone else. Sure Cotto is stronger. But he is less experienced...maybe if he was given a few more years to get ready but by then Mayweather will have probably left the game. I dont think he's ready yet...no way he would cut the ring off against Mayweather; he aint fast enough. No way he's outboxing him or catching him. Floyd would stick and move and coast to a points victory like he always does. He would create distance with his jab and lightning fast right cross and Cotto wouldnt be able to get to him. It would go down a lot like the Baldomir fight i think. Actually, I would kind of like to see Baldomir and Cotto go at it with the winner going against Antonio Margarito. Those are more exciting matchups i think. Floyd hits and runs and fights going backwards. With his skill and speed, I dont see anyone beating him under 154.
