just read this and stallone is happy he picked tarver over jones in rocky 6 he thinks tarver is a superior actor ::**
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just read this and stallone is happy he picked tarver over jones in rocky 6 he thinks tarver is a superior actor ::**
And a superior speaker, they should have let him be more of a villian in the movie such as the previous Rocky opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Im not so sure about the rumour that stallone originally intended the part to be for roy jones?
I certainly know that when Antonio was asked to do the part it was around the time in which he had jus knocked out jones and was bieng a real bastard at the pressers and such
i certainly would assume that the part was meant for a bad guy like tarver and that he was always intended to play the guy...
"It my time now"
"Youuuuuruh bes wohn be good enuh"
haha... after watching The Tarver-Hopkins build up montage thing I can't see how... I've seen Roy in The Matrix and Devil's advocate (I think)
Not actually that bad... certainly not as bad as what I saw of Tarver in that hilarious Hopkins build up video (any one got a link? :D)
I would have prefered to see an unknown to be honest. It does detract from the film when you know that the bad guy turned good is a light heavyweight and not a very good one at that.
I thought Tarver did well.
I would have prefered someone unknown as well....or a historical fighter like Bernard Hopkins but then B-Hop and Rocky Balboa are so similar in their humility their ability to achieve over long odds and ......their (cough) longevity
A good young/new actor would have been great for the movie....50 Cent anyone???
Apollo Creed was supposed to be played by Earnie "The Acorn" Shavers but he broke Sly's ribs in sparring
But also one must remember Sly is like 5'2 and hell he weighed 154 in Rocky 4
Seriously I was thinking Nard as a choice since he just looks like a fighter but not a flashy modern one.. I cant stand Tarver and think he is a Flash in the pan and the most overrated Boxer of the last 7 years. It pains me to say this but he was perfect for the role and did a damn good job... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
IM GLAD HE PICKED TARVER ,the movie was awsome,best one of all...and alot of u are saying that you would prefer an unknown,but tarver is an unknown,only boxing fans know who he is, the rest of the free world wouldnt have a clue..and adam GB,know i know what ur talking about,i didnt know jones had acted before,but i remember seeing him in the matrix 2 or 3? :D
....hey lyle,ur joking right? stallones like 5'11 and weighed over 200lbs at the time of rocky 4!
50 Cent Lyle? Are you trying to forever ruin the franchise? Musta never seen Get Rich or Die Tryin :D
Hate Tarver...but he really does a good job in this one. And Lou Dibella is just as hatable as ever :D
Tarver has a chip on his shoulder and maybe for him it's for good reason but to have such a hate for ONE fighter and then treating a great guy like Hopkins like he's some washed up bum is nothing to be proud of.
Roy didn't dodge Tarver, Tarver just lost the elimination bout....he also lost the first fight but bitched enough to get a rematch.
Tarver was a good villain but his character doesn't seem to have the Creed, Lang, Drago edge to me
Stavros HONESTLY Sly is like 5'3 and weighed 154....I mean look at when he and Briggette Neilsen were dating....she dwarfed that little dude
The franchise was ruined when Tommy Morrison showed up
Didnt need to have an edge or to be over the top, This one was put together smart and had nothing extreme and I believe it was a good call by Stallone in light of the whole sensitive issue of the bucket of puke that was called Rocky 5, he ended the series nicely without any bullshitQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
actually sly is more like 5'7. and shavers was supposed to play the role of Clubber Lang in Rocky III. Carl Weathers won the role of Apollo in the first Rocky as a virtual unkown football player from San Diego State as sort of a surprise. He so identified with the character that when he and stallone were asked to do an on the spot audition scene, the chemistry between the actors was so good, he was asked to do the role of Creed. Great choice too. Apollo Creed is one of my favorite movie characters of all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
"You know somethin, Stallion? It's too bad we gotta get old..."
"Apollo Creed versus the EYE-talian Stallion. Ha! Sounds like a damn monster movie."
"We have to be right in the middle of the action cause we the warriors! And without some challenge...without some damn war to fight than the warrior may as well be dead Stallion. I'm asking you. As a friend. Stand by my side this one last time."
Ah man the last line always brought a tear to my eye :'( ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford
yeah but lyle,im talking about rocky 4,stallone got in great shape for that movie,the biggest hes ever been for a movie role,u have to watch it again when hes fighting drago,balboas fuking huge ,he got bigger tities than pammy ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by stavros693000
....he's 154 he's ripped but not "huge"....huge is Arnold in "Pumping Iron" now THAT motherfucker is HUGE
I think it would have been way more impressive to watch RJJ in the ring because he is so much faster, and just looks better in the ring. Also people outside boxing actually know who he is.
...had Jeff Lacy beat Joe Calzaghe I bet you he would have got a shot at the role.
The problem is there are no charismatic fighters around the size of Sly right now or that are recently retired.
RJJ's problem is he's known as Roy Jones Jr. not Mason "The Line" Dixon....that's why Tarver got the role
Here's a few.
Sly also wears lifts.....also Briggitte Nielsen is like 6'4 so that picture must be fixed somehow....wikipedia says he's 5'9....I doubt it though
nielsen is 6 foot 1 i say sly is about 5 foot 8 or 5 foot 7 somewhere round there i mean mr t was taller than him in rocky 3 and he isnt that tall i dont think he is only like 5 foot 9 or 5 foot 10Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle