David Haye has turned up the heat on WBO cruiserweight champion Enzo Maccarinelli by saying they must meet in April or not at all.
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David Haye has turned up the heat on WBO cruiserweight champion Enzo Maccarinelli by saying they must meet in April or not at all.
full article here http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6214355.stm
What a fight that would be.
Who wins???
I say Enzo by KO in mid-rounds, although i do believe Haye has the ability to do the same.
Haye is easy to hit as that midget of an Italian proved in his last fight.
And if Enzo can hit you,he can KO you .
I think Haye is just using the Enzo fight talk for a bit of easy pr and has no intentions to really fight him.
Why would Haye NOT want to fight Enzo?
Although it wont happen of course, which is a bloody shame. All they're doing is calling FW and Enzos bluff for giving it the big-un.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Haye made Enzo an offer that he knows he will not accept.
A good reason for Haye not wanting to fight Enzo is that Haye is easy to hit and Enzo is one of the hardest punchers in the world.
Well at the very least Haye's mob are trying to make the fight aren't they? And that offer was a career high pay day.
You think Haye would be worried about Enzo considering he's set to face Bell next year and fought Thompson in his 11th fight? ;D
A decent puncher he may be but dont get carried away, he couldnt stop Ismail Abdoul but Krzysztof Wlodarczyk did, if Enzo was one of the worlds hardest punchers he would have matched it, same with HayeQuote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
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Originally Posted by ross
Thats a bit like saying that Tyson was not a hard puncher coz he could not KO Razor Ruddock where as Lewis did it in 2 rounds.
TIMBER! thats what is going to happen to Haye! no joke enzo will have this one in the bag. Haye will sure have to keep those hands up or we will see a repeat of the dominguez fight. man i loved that fight so much. i think haye will be left like imo
I think Haye will stop Enzo personally.
Not really because Mike had a large size disadvantage whereas dumb and dumber had a huge advantage, plus Mike hurt Rudduck numerous times and stopped him in one of the fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Mike ruined Rudduck for Lewis and Morrison much like Tito ruined Vargas
Exactly, it's just a matter of landing the right punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
The point I was trying to make if you missed it was even the best KO fighters in history dont knock them all out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
To be fair to both Haye and Enzo, Abdoul did stand there all night with his hands wrapped around his head. All he was interested in was hearing the final bell.
2 big punchers, Enzo is a bit chinny, Haye has a stamina problem, someone is getting knocked out. Personally I think Haye will win, Enzo ain't too hard to hit.
Ask Thompson how hard Haye is to tag
Is everyone really that impressed with Haye...or is it just a Brit, thang?Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Just curious. I aint saying on way or the other...basically because I just haven't been following him...so really...I am just curious.
Im British and I think as soon as he steps up again hes in trouble again
If Fragomani was a puncher which he isnt then Haye wouldnt have gotten outta the fight
Enzo can bang, like Haye but he mixes his shots up better is more active and has better stamina, as far as ive seen their chins are both just as brittle.
Id see haye who has battled back from adversity as having the better stamina and outlasting Haye but I could also see a ko for either but if I had to put money id go for enzo by late stoppage
What Brit thang?
He's got the ingredients theres no question. Question marks remain over his conditioning though. His training methods (in the past apparently) havent been what you'd call the beaten path. Possibly more concerned with looking the part rather than being the part.
By the way Haye is a member on maxboxing forums and I asked him why he doesnt fight Enzo, he said all the usual promoter or manager bollocks but he also admitted that they both are chinny ;D
Fair play I thought, he came across as a bit of a bragart but also pretty genuine but still as a fighter I really dont see him getting much further
Of the two I'd back Haye to win a proper world title. He has the extra bit of class that Enzo simply doesnt have. If he boxed and allowed the KO to come in its own time like he has been promising to do now for the last three or four fights then he would stand a much better chance.
He's British & alot of Britonians that I converse with are really really sold on him...while most Yanks are not or they either don't know him...hence the Brit thang.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
How do you think he'd fair against...saaaaaaaaay...ummmm...Mormeck, Bell, or Braithwaite? Seeing as those are the only Cruisers that I've ever really gotten into.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Haye will ony get the chance to fight one of them (Bell), at cruiserweight at least. He has the tools to beat Bell no doubt about that in my mind.
Haye wants the big fights, wants the big occassion. I dont think he is too fond of the nasty hard work that comes before all of that though.
So it's stamina or no drive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Would you say he's on the same path as Audley Harrison? Not that bad?
Well the two are kinda hand in hand arent they. I dont think he has the drive, therefor his stamina suffers.
I suppose Audley and Haye are alike in some ways. Both got good skills but both (Audley definatley) flawed in one respect or another. Haye isnt affraid to let it all hang out though, if he goes out(and Im sure he will before his career is up) it will be with a bang.
Thing is with Haye though the only real puncher hes faced he got stopped by
Not the way I was meaning it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
What I meant was did he have stamina issues or head issues.
By that I mean...does he gas out or does he mentally shut down if he can't get his way.
But you answered me question.
It amazes me how Audley squanders his abilities. I just get so disgusted with him when I watch him box. He's got such a vast amount of skill & he's got the tools...but to me...he defines what I was asking you above...when he can't get it to go just his way...he mentally fwocks himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Sounds like Haye is something I should stay on the same path with.
Shows how much I know about him...I didn't even know that he'd been stopped. ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Alexader Gurov 38 (33) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Nah thats spot on Wacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Despite telling us for three or four fights now that he is more relaxed and going to let the KO come in its own time, he still feels that he has the god given right to whack out anyone in his way in the first couple of frames.
When they dont go over he short circuits for a while and then has to regroup from a situation where there was no real danger.
The good news is that unlike the Thompson fight he seems to be getting better at working through the cloud. Still shouldnt be happening though.
Haye has a serious heavyweight punch, he's got fast hands, and high accuracy, the one punch power is incredible it's that of a full blown heavy easy. He's very tight at the weight, and will easily be a 240/245 heavy when he moves up. But at the minute, he's being held up by his chin and stamina, very similar to the way the 140 limit was holding Cotto by the looks of it. He could knock out any boxer in the world IMO, if he could catch them.
Do you think Haye is in danger of paying too much attention to the iminant move up to heavy when he should be putting everything into one last fight at cruiser? I wouldnt be surprised at all if it all went pear shaped because he cant make the weight.
I think thats possible, but until he gets his rightful shot at O'neill Bell, win or lose he'll be focused as a cruiser until then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
I so wish that I knew about Haye...I hate being in the dark.
Quite a few clips of him on youtube. Need a reverse angle of this punch really. didnt notice before how quickly the referee went from 5-10 ;D
[youtube=425,350]l3H1_hkRYAk[/youtube]
Here's a couple of KO's this one was the WBC #1 eliminator, against an unbeaten Fragomeni, granted not well known but a very tough fighter. Haye had an awful cut, soppable probably 75% of the time, and proved in this one he has more stamina than first thought of. Probably his most well rounded performance so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
[youtube=425,350]W9ReeMSr4hA[/youtube]
Here's a little best of, the KO of Gurov is SPECTACULAR, 1st round, massive massive power.
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