The Top 3 Spots in P4P are done. Now let's close out the rest of the list...

The Top 3 Spots in P4P are done. Now let's close out the rest of the list...

#1: Floyd Mayweather Jr.
#2: Manny Pacquiao
#3: Ronald "Winky" Wright

There's no poll for the rest of the list...just post your picks.

My list goes like this:

#4: Marco Antonio Barrera
#5: Rafael Marquez
#6: Miguel Cotto
#7: Juan Manuel Marquez
#8: Jermain Taylor
#9: Joe Calzaghe
#10: Ricky Hatton

I gotta have this list done by the 1st...the 2nd at the latest. Help me out people.

CC for the work,when were the top 3 spots done?? Do you want reason why they are there too??

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

CC for the work,when were the top 3 spots done?? Do you want reason why they are there too??

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Huh?

Do you want a justification why I think MAB is at number 4 for example?

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Do you want a justification why I think MAB is at number 4 for example?

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Whatever you wish, babe.

Just give me the run down...sure we can discuss the rest. Hit me up.

Ok...if you want reason behind each,I'll do it later but for now

1. Pacman- Stopping a hall of famer for the first time in his career ESPECIALLY after getting his ass beaten in the first fight topped it for me. Larios is also a dangerou dangerous fighter too and Manny won with ease and has shown improvement in all 3 fights.


2. PBF-won WW title of the world,beat Judah too,decent accomplishments for the year but I don't rate either Baldo or Zab as fighters for a reason. Will probably go back to 1 if he beats Oscar although if Manny beats either JMM or MAB,he'll stay at 1.

3.Winky-should have got the W over Taylor but was lazy in the last round. Win over Ike was good but expected,want to see rematch with JT next year.What else is there?

4. MAB-legendary career,winding down now,needs to take on Manny/JMM. 2 wions over Jaurez were good,adding another name to the resume although the first fight was much closer than it should hav been

5. Rafa Marquez- has beaten lots of top 10 rated fighters and win over Mabuza was excellent again,dominated the second best in the division.Needs the move up though to maintain momentum.

6. Jose lUis Castillo-Difficult one but so many great names on the resume and gave PBF his toughest fight,most thinking he had won. If he beats Hatton,he'll SHOOOOOOT higher on my list because I don't think he can win,age will surely catch up not to mention all those wars!?!

7. Jermain Taylor- drew tih Winky,should have lost but hey...beat Ouma but not as well as I thought he would...not sold on him and I HAVE been willing to give him a chance. I'm just not impressed,have not seen any improvement since he's been wiht Steward...

8. Calzaghe- gave THE DEFINITIVE boxing performance of the year v Lacy,a fight MANY thought he would lose. Still....needs bigger fights than Bika and Manfredo,JT next year would be awesome.

9. Hatton- good fighter and whether anyone likes it or not,he beat Collazo on points which is another good name on the list although he did not look good doing it...needs to pick it up in 2007 or risk losing his place although if he beats Castillo like I think he will,he'll move up toooo.....

10.Israel Vazquez- some excellent performances this year topped off by the EXCELLENT win over Jhonny G. Showed great heart and determination in the fight and may fight Rafa Marquez,AGAIN,will definitely move up if he looks good.

Close to P4P= Cotto, Arce,,Calderon,JMM.

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Ok...if you want reason behind each,I'll do it later but for now

1. Pacman
2. PBF
3.Winky
4. MAB
5. Rafa Marquez
6. Jose lUis Castillo
7. Jermain Taylor
8. Calzaghe
9. Hatton
10.Israel Vazquez

Close to P4P= Cotto, Arce,,Calderon,JMM.

I know JLC is contraversial BUT he is a great fighter with ALOT of names on his resume.

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:coolclick: I think your list is pretty well rounded...but I don't really see Castillo in there...but that's just me.

I really really think that Cotto should be on the bill due to the fact that he's still running undefeated even on the move up.

You know I looooove Cotto but compared to the guys on the list,all of whom have at least 1 super name that stands out,Cotto does not have that...yet.....if he beats Tony next year and another good name,he'll be super high in the list.

Why don't you see JLC there though,becaue of the weight stuff? Look past that,he has a great resume....

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You know I looooove Cotto but compared to the guys on the list,all of whom have at least 1 super name that stands out,Cotto does not have that...yet.....if he beats Tony next year and another good name,he'll be super high in the list.

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Agreed there. Good point...but I still rank him based on his accomplishments & the fact that he's undefeated.

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Why don't you see JLC there though,becaue of the weight stuff? Look past that,he has a great resume....

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I used to rank Castillo. Used to think that he was a great fighter...but he seems to be slipping to me & there are much better men out there, with much better opposition, with much better performances, & much more deserving.

Very surprised that you don't have Juan Manuel in there...other than the Chris John farce of a decision...he's been dead on the money.

1) PBF
2) Winky
3)Pacman
4)Taylor - beat b-hop twice + draw with winky which makes him close to wright
5)Barrera - back at 5 with dominating performance vs juarez
6) Hopkins- hes back right? , well I felt it coming, he is still p4p we can all agree on that
7) R.Marquez- well this guy can be even higher but only if he faces some tougher opposition
8) Hatton
9) Calzaghe
10) Cotto
just missed out-- Arce, Catillo, Pongswelak,

I have it,

#1 pac
#2 winky
#3 j.t
#4 bhop
#5 mab
#6 jmm
#7 hatton
#8 pbf
#9 cotto
#10 joe.c

mine is about level of oppenents, and how they win like no other against the level of there oppenents. notice 7-10 are all undefeated, I have hatton rank highest beause he beat koysta like no other fighter, pbf with talent but lack hunger to finish huge, I have joe.C last because it maybe too late for him to ever past anyone else on the list...I think cotto can rise up he continues his wins against undefeated fighters, I think its possible for him to end hatton or pbf too...or it can be hatton or pbf that ends the others undefeated record...but out of the three I believe cotto has the most balls and hunger to get in with anyone without hesitation...so I like him more...

I have jmm and mab very close at five and six...I have bhop up there because I hear his unretire and he has just whoop lightheavy king tarver,plus if I still have mab up there I gotta put up bhop, mab did lose worst but bhop lost only close fights.

I got j.t following winky because j.t has those two close wins against the executioner bhop and a draw with winky that could of gone either way.

I have winky second because he spanked tito, and out gun mosley twice plus a draw with j.t.

I got the pacman king because he has the most hunger to prove greatness, and has k.oed both mexican legends mab and em(twice), also gave hell to a masterfull boxer jmm...flaws or no flaws you still got to go through hell to have a chance at winning against mercyless manny. I can't remember the last oppenent he didn't drop plus he keeps improving his arsenals.

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Manny Pacquioa
3. Ronald Wright
4. Joel Casamayor
5. Marco Antonio Barerra
6. Rafael Marquez
7. Jermain Taylor
8. Juan Manuel Marquez
9. Jose Luis Castillo
10. Miguel Cotto

4.Marco Antonio Barrera (IMO belongs in top 3 but the people have spoken)
5.Bernard Hopkins (beating Tarver just floats my boat man, lets see do Maskaev)
6.Miguel Cotto (Moving up in weight so well makes him p4p material)
7. Rafael Marquez (Purely on his skill, makes weight jumping look lie bouncing on a trampoline)
8. Joe Calzaghe (purely because I think his skills can move through to 175, and if they shrank him he'd be dominant in the lower weight classes, a pure p4p pick)
9. JMM (Proven to be able to cope in other weight classes, as well rounded and skilled as they come, and also as underated as they come. Beaten by Chris John, but only cos it was JMM v the world, the judges, politics, even the no.1 p4p can't match that.
10. Ricky Hatton. Ok, his first showing as a welter was undewehlming, bt Collazo may turn out to be a genuine world class performer, plus without the time, and growth to be a proper welter, he may have been out of his depth, I have no doubt in my mind Hatton can be the best welter on the planet, maybe more, give him time and patince, and afetr beating castillo, he will destroy all welterweights, one by one and be no.1 pound for pund! (Ok, got a little carried away there, but i believe he is the modern day roberto duran, with a jab.

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4.Marco Antonio Barrera (IMO belongs in top 3 but the people have spoken)
5.Bernard Hopkins (beating Tarver just floats my boat man, lets see do Maskaev)
6.Miguel Cotto (Moving up in weight so well makes him p4p material)
7. Rafael Marquez (Purely on his skill, makes weight jumping look lie bouncing on a trampoline)
8. Joe Calzaghe (purely because I think his skills can move through to 175, and if they shrank him he'd be dominant in the lower weight classes, a pure p4p pick)
9. JMM (Proven to be able to cope in other weight classes, as well rounded and skilled as they come, and also as underated as they come. Beaten by Chris John, but only cos it was JMM v the world, the judges, politics, even the no.1 p4p can't match that.
10. Ricky Hatton. Ok, his first showing as a welter was undewehlming, bt Collazo may turn out to be a genuine world class performer, plus without the time, and growth to be a proper welter, he may have been out of his depth, I have no doubt in my mind Hatton can be the best welter on the planet, maybe more, give him time and patince, and afetr beating castillo, he will destroy all welterweights, one by one and be no.1 pound for pund! (Ok, got a little carried away there, but i believe he is the modern day roberto duran, with a jab.

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Nice.

Here's the thing that I've been wrestling with...can we rank Hopkins if he's retired one day...& not the next?

I mean...believe you me...if we can all agree on it...Hopkins would be my #4 or #5...but can we place him when he's neither in nor out...but still in?

Get me pwoint?

What the FWOCK!! >:mad

Where did you go WackOff? Thats it, thats all you got....

Wow! your pretty weak.... 8)

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What the FWOCK!! >:mad

Where did you go WackOff? Thats it, thats all you got....

Wow! your pretty weak.... 8)

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Whoops...sorry babe...I'll be heading over there right now...LET's...GET...IT...ON!!!!

1)PBF-Good resume, not the best but good, plus I just think he's the best
2)Winky-Tough call between him and Pac, they've both fought great comp, maybe Pac's is better lately, but Winky hasn't been clearly beaten since Vazquez a long time ago
3)Pac-Could be two, hell, could be one
4)MAB-more on accomplishments now, not totally sure he's a top five fighter anymore but still a great fighter plus all the great wins
5)Castillo-I've said time and again I don't see how he's not on the upper half of everybody's list. Great accomplishments, great fighter. If it wasn't for the inactivity, he might be 4th
6)Taylor-Must be doing something right, three very competitive fights with two of the best. Good fighter whether I like him or not.
7)Rafael Marquez-Doesn't have the accomplishments of the top six but a great fighter with some good to great wins.
8)Joel Casamayor-Could easily make a case that he's undefeated against great opposition.
9)Ricky Hatton-Slipping a bit but still there
10)JMM-Honestly didn't know who to put here. I have a problem putting JMM on cause he doesn't have a great win, I thought he lost to Pac. Still a great fighter, and you could make a case he won the Pac fight, or at least deserved a draw.

Missed the cut

Calzaghe-Just doesn't make the fights. A waste of great talent.
Corrales-Just think he's kind of done, but you could make a case for a spot for him
Lorenzo Parra-Needs one more good to great win, great fighter though.
Joan Guzman-Again, needs a big win, but has the talent to someday make the list
Cotto-Honestly surprised at the votes for Cotto. I've come around and officially become a fan but even though he's undefeated, you have to look at the competition, its good solid competition but its not P4P level.
James Toney-A clear cut win over Peter, I thought the first was clear cut but oh well, along with all his accomplishments would be enough.
Israel Vazquez-Beat Rafael Marquez and he'd be clearly on there. Without a doubt.
Calderon-You know, he's great, but he needs a big time opponent to make the step up.

Sure I'm forgetting some, Hopkins would be on, but I'll see what's going on with him first.

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1)PBF-Good resume, not the best but good, plus I just think he's the best
2)Winky-Tough call between him and Pac, they've both fought great comp, maybe Pac's is better lately, but Winky hasn't been clearly beaten since Vazquez a long time ago
3)Pac-Could be two, hell, could be one
4)MAB-more on accomplishments now, not totally sure he's a top five fighter anymore but still a great fighter plus all the great wins
5)Castillo-I've said time and again I don't see how he's not on the upper half of everybody's list. Great accomplishments, great fighter. If it wasn't for the inactivity, he might be 4th
6)Taylor-Must be doing something right, three very competitive fights with two of the best. Good fighter whether I like him or not.
7)Rafael Marquez-Doesn't have the accomplishments of the top six but a great fighter with some good to great wins.
8)Joel Casamayor-Could easily make a case that he's undefeated against great opposition.
9)Ricky Hatton-Slipping a bit but still there
10)JMM-Honestly didn't know who to put here. I have a problem putting JMM on cause he doesn't have a great win, I thought he lost to Pac. Still a great fighter, and you could make a case he won the Pac fight, or at least deserved a draw.

Missed the cut

Calzaghe-Just doesn't make the fights. A waste of great talent.
Corrales-Just think he's kind of done, but you could make a case for a spot for him
Lorenzo Parra-Needs one more good to great win, great fighter though.
Joan Guzman-Again, needs a big win, but has the talent to someday make the list
Cotto-Honestly surprised at the votes for Cotto. I've come around and officially become a fan but even though he's undefeated, you have to look at the competition, its good solid competition but its not P4P level.
James Toney-A clear cut win over Peter, I thought the first was clear cut but oh well, along with all his accomplishments would be enough.
Israel Vazquez-Beat Rafael Marquez and he'd be clearly on there. Without a doubt.
Calderon-You know, he's great, but he needs a big time opponent to make the step up.

Sure I'm forgetting some, Hopkins would be on, but I'll see what's going on with him first.

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:coolclick: Nice. Dead on the money as usual.

Here's mine (reposted from another thread a while ago):

1. PBF (technically, he's just on another level; you can complain about his competition, but name someone from 130 to 154 who could actually beat him; Wright is the only possibility)
2. Wright (may be falling off a bit on the D, but it's still 2nd only to Floyd's, and has yet to legitimately lose; extremely technically sound)
3. Pac (#1 in terms of entertainment, but he's got some obvious flaws, which Floyd and Winky don't)
4. Taylor (2 (controversial) wins over B-Hop when B-Hop was #1 p4p followed by a draw with #2 Winky--even if the decisions were off, the fights were VERY close)
5. Hopkins (moving straight from MW to the LHW championship--nuff said)
6. R. Marquez (needs better fights, but is definitely the man at the lower weights--he'll KTFO Vasquez if that fight happens, for real)
7. Barrera (but agreed he's past his prime--won't likely make this list next year)
8. Castillo (and he ain't going nowhere but up when he beats Hatton)
9. Calzaghe (if he beats Taylor, Hopkins or Wright he cracks the top 5, but I'm not expecting any of those to actually get made)
10. Mosely (looked back to form in the last fight, granted it was against a punching bag--but he'd dominate 147 (except Floyd if he's still there) if he moved back down like he keeps saying he will)

JMM and Casamayor are 11 and 12. Cotto 13. Hatton 14. But Cotto's stock is rising, for sure.

Wacko, re Hopkins--he's got a June or July date set (vs. TBA), so I consider him still alive and kicking. I think he stays on until he's unquestionably retired, which I never believed he was in the first place.

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Here's mine (reposted from another thread a while ago):

1. PBF (technically, he's just on another level; you can complain about his competition, but name someone from 130 to 154 who could actually beat him; Wright is the only possibility)
2. Wright (may be falling off a bit on the D, but it's still 2nd only to Floyd's, and has yet to legitimately lose; extremely technically sound)
3. Pac (#1 in terms of entertainment, but he's got some obvious flaws, which Floyd and Winky don't)
4. Taylor (2 (controversial) wins over B-Hop when B-Hop was #1 p4p followed by a draw with #2 Winky--even if the decisions were off, the fights were VERY close)
5. Hopkins (moving straight from MW to the LHW championship--nuff said)
6. R. Marquez (needs better fights, but is definitely the man at the lower weights--he'll KTFO Vasquez if that fight happens, for real)
7. Barrera (but agreed he's past his prime--won't likely make this list next year)
8. Castillo (and he ain't going nowhere but up when he beats Hatton)
9. Calzaghe (if he beats Taylor, Hopkins or Wright he cracks the top 5, but I'm not expecting any of those to actually get made)
10. Mosely (looked back to form in the last fight, granted it was against a punching bag--but he'd dominate 147 (except Floyd if he's still there) if he moved back down like he keeps saying he will)

JMM and Casamayor are 11 and 12. Cotto 13. Hatton 14. But Cotto's stock is rising, for sure.

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Good list babe. :coolclick:

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Wacko, re Hopkins--he's got a June or July date set (vs. TBA), so I consider him still alive and kicking. I think he stays on until he's unquestionably retired, which I never believed he was in the first place.

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Saw that...plan on modifying my list on that note. I'll have to place Hopkins either 4th or 5th place too.

You're right Wack,I think I should have JMM there somewhere but where?? He does not have the big name he needs yet,like Cotto. But maaaaaaaaan,is it me or could that P4P list be like TOTALLY different by the end of next year,I mean most of those guys are fighting each other!!!!

WACK,I disagree with JLC,wins over SteviE jOnston,giving PBF his toughest fight,KTFO cORRALES,beat Casamayor,lAzacano,Diaz,that's ALOT of goood names there my man.

I disagree with anyone that puts B Hop on their list,because I just don'r rate Tarver and I can't have him there after he lost twice to JT.oNE DAY THE MAN is retired,the next he comes back,that's annoying. And SHZA,you know you're one of ym fave posters BUT NO NO NO WAY does SSM make the list. 2 wins over a shot Vargas does NOT qualify you for p4p! No way! And we'll see if he dominates 147,people keep thinking this is the Shane and the WW division of old,it's not,there are young lions like Cotto,slicksters like Collazo,powerhouses like Cintron and just pure power punching machines like Williams and of course,Tony. A win over Vargas is in no way an indicator he would bea ANY of these guys.

I forgot Casamayor,he's close though.

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You're right Wack,I think I should have JMM there somewhere but where?? He does not have the big name he needs yet,like Cotto. But maaaaaaaaan,is it me or could that P4P list be like TOTALLY different by the end of next year,I mean most of those guys are fighting each other!!!!

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Marquez, IWO, deserves the right to be on the P4P list due to the fact that he's been on it before...& not just ours...I can't see knocking him off based on a hometown decision...but this is the forum's list...not mine.

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WACK,I disagree with JLC,wins over SteviE jOnston,giving PBF his toughest fight,KTFO cORRALES,beat Casamayor,lAzacano,Diaz,that's ALOT of goood names there my man.

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Got KTFO by Corrales too. Agreed that there are good names on his resume...but I dunno...I just don't dig.

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I disagree with anyone that puts B Hop on their list,because I just don'r rate Tarver and I can't have him there after he lost twice to JT.oNE DAY THE MAN is retired,the next he comes back,that's annoying. And SHZA,you know you're one of ym fave posters BUT NO NO NO WAY does SSM make the list. 2 wins over a shot Vargas does NOT qualify you for p4p! No way! And we'll see if he dominates 147,people keep thinking this is the Shane and the WW division of old,it's not,there are young lions like Cotto,slicksters like Collazo,powerhouses like Cintron and just pure power punching machines like Williams and of course,Tony. A win over Vargas is in no way an indicator he would bea ANY of these guys.

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As far as Bernard goes...I'm shocked to here that. He was running 20-0 until the first debacle of the Taylor fight...came back & beat the #1 175er. If he aint retired...then I say he deserves it...but then again...it's the forum's list...not mine.

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I forgot Casamayor,he's close though.

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No way in hell on that one babe. I can flex on the others...but I can't agree with you on him.

Wlad and Chris John should be considered.

Juan Manuel Marquez is not worthy on such a list and he lost clearly to Chris John

#4: Marco Antonio Barrera
#5: Rafael Marquez
#6: Joel Casymore
#7: Juan Manuel Marquez
#8: Joe Calzaghe - would have him higher, but he needs a bg fight, JT, mirand, hopkins or winky
#9: Ricky hatton - one bad fight with collazo, but i think it was a one off and there will be alot mroe to come form him
#10: Wlad Klitchkov, i think hes very underrated and doesn't get enough credit 'coz of the lack of talent in his devision.

Just missing out

Cotto, doing fantasticly, just needs to beat one more name at WW and he will brake his way in.

Castillo, if active i would sneak him in at 10, but untill he fights, or fights a named guy he misses out

Taylor, as of late i think totaly overrated, he lost to winky and looked fucked after 3 rounds with a dut like ouma, no way is that P4P atm.

Corales, just don't feel he is good enough atm

Israel Vazquez - one good fight away form braking in the list imo

Hopkins - retired, no matter how much you love him imo no way can he be included untill he fights again.

I think I may have to accomodate JMM Wack,you have won me over there. Casamayor is close for me but not quite though.

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Wlad and Chris John should be considered.

Juan Manuel Marquez is not worthy on such a list and he lost clearly to Chris John

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Hillarious. You clearly did not see the fight...nor do you take in the fact that John aint done a single thing else to warrant him being on the list...hence the reason nobody voted for the man.

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I think I may have to accomodate JMM Wack,you have won me over there. Casamayor is close for me but not quite though.

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Well...it is tuff not putting him on the list...especially a world reknowned shadey assed decision & the fact that he's pulled out two impressive comeback fights & is set to match Marco Antonio Barrera too boot.

How's it looking so far Wack??

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Wlad and Chris John should be considered.

Juan Manuel Marquez is not worthy on such a list and he lost clearly to Chris John

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Hillarious. You clearly did not see the fight...nor do you take in the fact that John aint done a single thing else to warrant him being on the list...hence the reason nobody voted for the man.

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Why so angry at me? You asked for suggestions and you got those....!!!!

Chris John smashed Marquez no matter what you said - and how the hell could you rate Marquez higher than John? Oh, I forgot....it is just because he is an American....just like Lacy beat Tsypko....

If you ask for suggestions - then do not be a child when you get those....!!!!

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Wlad and Chris John should be considered.

Juan Manuel Marquez is not worthy on such a list and he lost clearly to Chris John

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Hillarious. You clearly did not see the fight...nor do you take in the fact that John aint done a single thing else to warrant him being on the list...hence the reason nobody voted for the man.

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Why so angry at me? You asked for suggestions and you got those....!!!!

Chris John smashed Marquez no matter what you said - and how the hell could you rate Marquez higher than John? Oh, I forgot....it is just because he is an American....just like Lacy beat Tsypko....

If you ask for suggestions - then do not be a child when you get those....!!!!

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Who's angry. I just disagreed with you & then stated that clearly did not see the fight...which you did not disagree with.

Again...I state...John hasn't done a single thing to warrant him being on the list...hence the reason nobody voted for the man.

Also...as far as being childish...children often have to learn things by association, repetition, & studying to gain knowledge...which you have very little of me.

Out of all of my favorite fighters...maybe 3 are American...so child...try not to appear so uneducated.

Also...if you want to bring up Lacy Tsypko...there's a nice little hometown decision that you could make a comparison the the John Marquez fight.

Don't be a chump...think before you jump.

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How's it looking so far Wack??

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So far...so good...I could use some more lists though...let's get it moving people.

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Manny Pacquioa
3. Ronald Wright
4. Joel Casamayor
5. Marco Antonio Barerra
6. Rafael Marquez
7. Jermain Taylor
8. Juan Manuel Marquez
9. Jose Luis Castillo
10. Miguel Cotto

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1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Manny Pacquioa
3. Ronald Wright
4. Joel Casamayor
5. Marco Antonio Barerra
6. Rafael Marquez
7. Jermain Taylor
8. Juan Manuel Marquez
9. Jose Luis Castillo
10. Miguel Cotto

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:coolclick: Thanks doggy.

Nice list...I likes pretty alla that...cept for #4. You been poundin the ole' joy juice early, eh? ;)

PBF
Winky
Pac
MAB
R.Marquez
JT
JMM
JLCastillo
Hatton
Vasquez

Yo ..so i'll add mine...
Very sorry if its laughable :P lol...Tis new years eve and on the drink as always.. So here goes

1. Floyd Mayweather..You hate , I hate.. But he's still on top still picking up titles Still Making big cash..
Dont think there can be doubt...

2.Manny pacqioua..( Yehh You know its spelt wrong.)
I for certain tipped a 12 round classic for the Grand Finale ..Wish it was so.. But pac is the man at the lower weight's for now.. Excellent fighter always wants the big fights..

3.Ronald 'Winky' Wright.
What can you say..Still on top.. The uncrowned middleweight champ..
Much like Jlc in the way that they both have rights to the list because they are both such great ..
Well rounded fighters..Just winky has been Much much busyier then jose this year....

4.Marco Antonio Barrera..
Still able to hold up at the top level and always up for fighting the true competition..
Definately some big fights this new year..Perhaps his last..But undoubtably one of the diamonds of boxing.

5. Jermain Taylor.
Shock to some?
Not the most entertaining or most loved.. But the big fights and real challenges keep coming and jermain wants em to keep coming.. No fear in the young champ..
Bhop twice, Winky wright, Kassim the dream... Thats a badass list for his last four fights and to remain undefeated..

6. Vlad Klit....
Although im sure the pound for pound list means.. They would be as effective and as great a fighter at any other wieght..Regarding a statement that the fighter IS that good..
Vlad might not be moving up wieght after wieght...
But everyone must admit he is the man at heavyweight..And they must beat him to become the Big name of the division..I am not sure who if anybody can..But certainly a great year for vlad.

7.Jose louis Castillo.
What can you say... He is a must have of the P4P list..
He is just really that talented... Certainly inactive..But im sure there is more to come and he cannot be denied from a true pound for pound list.

8. Miguel Cotto.
Still of the undefeated elite.. Now a two wieght world champ..Another true fighter who is not afraid of the competition...Of which type of fighter is needed in the world of boxing more and more nowadays..
He doesn't pick the fights but his promoters are well trusted to pick big fights for him and i Pick him over the rest to fill the void left by floyd ;)

9. Ricky Hatton...
My personal feeling on hatton's P4P rating is much the same as winky as jose..
His skill cannot be denied... Bad performance has its circumstance but the most humble fighter promises big things and very big fights for this year..So back at 140 ..The weight where lets not forget he is the man.. and he's the one to take out..He's the man who beat the man..And so makes the list

10. And finally...James Toney..
He has the fights down..First sam peter.. Many including i thought he won the first fight..
The rematch is here..Talk is that james' shape will amaze..And if so..Then thats great ...
If not..No matter..James is still there baltantly becuase he was born with and still owns incredible skill..
He's let himself go.. Smokes eats drinks.. But always on the top level..Becuase of his belssings..
If he straitens out..There is no stopping him.. But P4P is about skill and toney has it..

Thanks all.
Peace.

Thank ya gents...I appreciate the last minute effort.

I'll have our list done up for the boss by late Monday evening or Tuesday morning.

Happy New Year to all.

1. Winky
2. PBF
3. Pac
4. Hopkins (still active for probably one more fight so i rate him)
5. Toney
6. Jermaine Taylor
7. R. Marquez
8. JMM
9. MAB
10. Cotto

1. PBF
2. Winky
3. Pac
4. Barrera
5. Jermaine Taylor
6. Juan Marquez
7. R. Marquez
8. Jorge Arce
9. Hatton
10. Casamayor

1. Floyd Mayweather- obvious choice. Flawless record. Classic speed/defense fighter with a style that lends itself to longevity. Generally this mold of fighter doesn't lose until age sets in (see: Whitaker, Pernell), so I expect Mayweather to be #1 for a few years to come.

2. Winky Wright- #2 entering 2006, and did nothing to relinquish his spot. Although I will say, I look at his draw against Taylor in a slightly less favorable light after Taylor's poor showing against Ouma.

3. Manny Pacquiao- Fighter of the Year for 2006, and definitely the most electric fighter out there. However, he will always be more vulnerable than fighters like Mayweather and Wright because he is not as technically proficient, and punchers are always vulnerable to skilled boxers.

4. Bernard Hopkins- Dropped from #2 down to #5 or #6 after the Taylor losses, but restablished himself with the victory over Tarver. Should retire in my opinion and go out on the high of the historic victory at 175.

5. Juan Manuel Marquez- considered by some to be an undefeated fighter and will give Pacquiao a very tough fight if their rematch comes off in '07. If I'm Pacquiao, I would much rather face......

6. Marco Antonio Barrera- I'm giving him this spot mostly for career accomplshments. I was very unimpressed by his performaces against Juarez. Barrera is an old, well past his prime fighter at this point IMO, and I think he will lose by mid-round stoppage if he faces Pacquiao in '07.

7. Joe Calzaghe- longest reigning champ should finally get a defining fight in '07

8. Jermain Taylor- most disappointing fighter of '06 IMO. This past year was set up for Taylor to reach superstardom, and instead he enters '07 with more questions than answers. Beats 160 pounders because of his above average size and athleticism, but shows no concept of ring generalship whatsoever, and will be exposed by Calzaghe at 168.

9. Rafael Marquez- I've seen very little of Marquez for whatever reason. Look forward to catching him in '07.

10. Miguel Cotto- highest climber of '06. Unfortunately, he's stuck in a division with a fighter (Mayweather) who I don't believe Cotto will ever be able to beat. So he'll have to settle for spending the next few years as the #2 welterweight.

So far so good my brothers.

I'm gonna have this done by Monday 1:00 p.m. my time.

Middle of the day...that way we'll be up & going for the rest of the boxing public if the big bwoss can have it loaded up for the front page.

I'm sure either he, Daxx, or Curtis can get us running.