Lidells tapping that ass again, rd. 1 just finished. Ortiz bleeding from left eye.
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Lidells tapping that ass again, rd. 1 just finished. Ortiz bleeding from left eye.
'tapping that ass' you mean kicking his ass, or lidel tapped out???
Beating his ass, but tito is still in there, but it looks like a matter of time, but I hope tito wins.
Tito is winning the 2nd, come on man!
Damn liddel has incredible takedown defence. This has the makings of a great 5 rounder.
want the ice man to KTFO tbh; this wont be on over her till monday;/
Good 2nd rd. I thought he was gonna turn Lidell over but Lidell managed to slip out.
oi come on update:p 5:30 am and i wanna sleep lets have a lil rbr chop chop fellas :D
Lidell TKO rd. 3
Its over :( quick stoppage. Still, chuck had the better of him all night. Lets see him take Rampage now!
Bullshit! stop IMO...The punches werent landing on Ortiz face they were hitting his forearm...
sweeeet cheers for the updates guys cc for ya
btw might wanna consider chaging the title case sum1 aint seen yet and dont wanna know the results:p
Gonna move this now to the MMA Board as thats where it belongs really. :)
CutMeMick, i'd edit the title mate, some brits will be heart broken in the morning when they see that ortiz got knocked out.
Done. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by yoitsdan
I think it was a bullshit stoppage too. And it looked like Tito was gonna scramble out of it RIGHT BEFORE the ref came in!!Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
You know, I respect Tito a lot more in taking that defeat. Cause if that was Ken Shamrock we'd here "WHY DID THEY STOP THE FIGHT!!! WHY I WAS GOOD TO CONTINUE!!!"
But Tito takes defeat gracefully..
But that left a sour taste in my mouth. I wanted Chuck to win...but not like that
Yeah, ok you wanted Chuck to win ::**. Chuck beat your favorite fighter's @ss again and you can't stand it. You suck at predicting not one, but two sports, so at least have the balls to come out and admit it and not scoundrel around behind a pathetic alias, Curious George lookin' MF!Quote:
Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
I wish it was definitive(probably would have been in the 4th round because Tito had nothing left) or maybe decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by yoitsdan
WHY is all these defining fights tainted in some way!?
The first Liddell Ortiz fight it was the eye poke, now its a "quick stoppage"
I agree with both but weren't they both delaying the inevitable?
We'll never know unless there's a third fight which won't happen(but if Shamrock and Ortiz fought 3 times why not)
In the St Pierre fight people were bitching and moaning about the low blows...
It seems no MMA fan would be satisfied unless there is a definitive ending.
But it's not as easy as "Let them fight until we get the ending we want"
Lets just appreciate the fights for what they are, good contests, if you spend money on the PPV you accept all endings.
Forrest Griffin lost tonight, my favorite fighter and he cried and said something I couldn't hear because everyone was screaming around the house.
But if you're a true fan you don't give your fighter an excuse why he lost. You just believe in the fact that they'll come back and do better one day. It's better respect to the fighter and the game in my opinion.
tito was blocking them but he was going nowhere. chuck could have thrown as many more as he wanted until the ref stopped it. plus tito got lucky that the fight wasn't stopped earlier. tito did well, but chuck won it fair and square.
Agreed. The man is clearly better than Tito and everyone knows it, just as he proved it last night. Chuck=UFC's G.O.A.T.Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Milash
Is there a chance of Chuck Lidell vs. Mirko Cro Cop coming off?
I know Lidell fights at Light Heavy. but not sure at what division MCC fights at.
Liddell wouldnt get by Silva or Jackson and Cro Cop would knock him our brutally. Unless Chuck got to his beard.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Havent watched this yet but let me guess a basic striker put the mma guy under pressure and the mma guy folded and took on the featal position not moving or holding or firing back
Awesome
Great spectacle for the fans
Such talented "fighters" ::**
;D
Did Chuck Liddell steal your lesbian girlfriend and make her straight? I can understand you being bitter seeing as you have no life, but please stop taking it out on the fighter who once again made you look like an ass. Seriously, your embarrassing yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Im sure ive seen Liddell getting battered by some nut who barks like a dog on the way to the ring and the same nut ive seen battered
Is there just no tough fighters in ufc because what I mentioned didnt happen there, they just seem to have no clue how to handle pressure
Mirko and Chuck is a mismatch. Mirko is pro'bly 30lbs naturally heavier than chuck. The weight differential is part of why Mirko dismantled Wandy so easily.
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!
ortiz got KTFO
also, vampire teeth is a bitch, who is gonna get ktfo by my man cro-cop who is now OFFICIALLY coming to the ufc!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!? !?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111one
ortiz is all hype, all he has is the ablity to work ok when he has someone down, but he sucks at taking someone down and his stand up fighting is worse
he was outboxed by the sloppiest slowest worst from having puncher of all time forest whateverthefuck and he also couldnt take him down even tho the guy knew nothing about takedown defense
ortiz is a joke who robbed my man silva aqnd vampire teeth pisses me off also
Look for Liddell to fight Rampage in the latter 07(Revenge), Tito got his ass handed to him again, Sorry if Tito fans cannot accept this, Tito twice crawled into a fetal/ball position to cover up from the blows, Tito can dish it out but can't take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
interesting and partly agreed. all through the ppv event I was amazed at how poorly guys were "boxing". MMA guys are starting to realize the true value of boxing, and all tout how much their "boxing" has "improved"...they seem to shadow box ok, work the mitts pretty good, but then when it comes time to dance, they suck. It's nothing but a crappy bar brawl with ugly punching. Many people scoff at what I have to say, but even Chuck would get absolutely killed by a top boxer. Notice how I said TOP boxer...not some journeyman chump who gets $400 per fight. Chuck's ONLY chance would be to take him down which, IMO, is far easier said than down since boxers are so light and quick on their feet. Plus, the boxer would out-fight making all other MMA tactics tougher to execute. The only guys who can truly take a boxer are kickboxers, IMO. All others would have an EXTREMELY difficult time getting their hands on the boxer and would eat punch after punch trying.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Chuck, for being such a talented "striker" was awful too. No jab, no movement, low hands, etc. All mma guys go for the one punch firecracker. It doesn't work that way. Chuck is just fortunate he throws his right a bit harder than everyone else at LHW. Tim Sylvia and Mirko Crocop are the only guys who have decent boxing ability in mma. Fedor is effective b/c he's brutally strong, but a guy like Lennox Lewis would rearrange his face if it didn't go to the ground. And going to the ground wouldn't be a foregone conclusions since LL could be taught to sprawl, and is himself strong as an ox.
I wanna see Hughes and Jermaine Taylor. JT KILLS matt, IMO.
was it you that used to have the little green monster looking thing as the avatar logo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Milash
that thing was the shit, it reminded me of that stupid ass huculoids cartoon
Can you find me an MMA fan that honestly thinks Chuck could beat Cro Cop? Love chuck or hate him Cro Cop would dismantle him. And thats not a haters perspective, its common senseQuote:
Originally Posted by Samson3000
Sal, yes, I had the green guy and then mr peanut. variety is the spice of life though! ;D
I'm not trying to stick my nose into someone esle's argument, but as I said before, Chuck and Crocop is a mismatch... CC would beat Chuck...maybe not DESTROY him, but it pro'bly wouldn't be close at all. CC is a true HW and far stronger than chuck, not to mention a better boxer/kickboxer. Having said that, with 4oz gloves Chuck still hits hard enough to have a punchers chance, but that's about it.
is Ortiz British? my pal Lee Murray is out of action for a while at hms but i dont follow the mma too much
So Cro Cop is a Heavyweight?Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Milash
Nah! then they shouldn't fight total mismatch....
Have to agree on that 100%. Although Cro cop is heavier lets say for arguments sake he was at 205 with the exact same skills liddel would get brutally knocked out. Cro cop is probably the best striker the MMA worl has ever seen. Bar none.Quote:
Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Adding to this the heavyweight title is more or less his already.
"Cro cop is probably the best striker the MMA worl has ever seen. Bar none."
I'd agree with this. I hate to beat the dead pony, but he's more of a western boxer/kickboxer that anything esle and he executes it well. IMO, boxing and judo are the only two worth knowing.
For the record, Cro Cop is an EXTREMELY tiny heavyweight and always has been. People have called for him to cut weight and fight at 205 (like he did when he first entered K1). However, Cro Cop has said himself that he hates cutting weight, and won't move down to fight (not that he really needs to...he's dominant enough at HW...imagine the havoc he'd wreak against smaller opponents?).
Oh yeah...also, he walks AND fights at about 215 on average. So he'd only be cutting 10lbs to make weight (VERY EASILY doable). He just doesn't want to.
And agreed on his being the greatest striker in the game EVER. He's basically a boxer who can kick your head off at any given second. His punches are so sharp, crisp, and precise and pack a hell of a whallop. His takedown defense is second to none. His only POSSIBLE chink in his armor is a possibly weak chin (demonstrated vs McDonald in K1 and Randleman in Pride), although I personally believe it just goes to prove that any given punch can drop any given opponent at any time. Hence the "Puncher's Chance"
that's true, but even guys like Tyson and Holyfield only fought at 215-220. Bigger than that isn't neccessarily better. A bit apples and oranges, but when you're that heavy and hit that hard, one punch will easily do it.