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He wants PBF to win so that his fight (if it ever happens with Floyd)will be even bigger. He names Castillo,Corrales as possible opponents and said he would fight Witter too if there was a big enough demand. He says you did not see the best of Hatton v Collazo,there was alot of distractions such as change of date for the fight,change of venue,legal issues with Warren but he assures us that he'll be back to his best v Urango.
I think PBF has every chance of putting on a boxing clinic against Oscar. It will be nearly a year of inactivity for Oscar after beating Mayorga which was preceded by another spell of inactivity. PBF is the wrong person to fight with a lot of ringrust....
If Hatton is still looking at a potential PBF bout he is clutching at straws at this point. Hatton is at 140 and PBF is going up to 154. If successful I doubt Floyd retires, and so Hatton will have to venture up again...will he do it? Im not so sure...
I would expect Floyd to drop back down to 147 after the DLH fight. It's a more natural weight for him and there are more big name/big $$$ opponents at 147 than 154.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Hatton is just talking a good game here. Floyd would absolutely destroy him. I doubt Hatton really wants any part of him.
You're right sweet pea Hatton is only talking out of his ass he wants nothing to do with Floyd, he would be totally outclassed. Hatton would look like a club fighter against floyd imo.
Ricky would take the fight at 147 or 154 against mayweather simply because he'd still probably be the bigger man. Going up to 154 against mayweather wouldn't be a problem.
Yeah, Ricky would jump to 154 for Floyd. But I don't see Floyd staying at 154, the fight would happen at 147. This fight could have been made after Hatton beat Collazo and Floyd beat Judah, but Floyd was chasing Oscar, and Hatton wanted to go back down to 140 for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by yoitsdan
hatton at 154 are u guys joking ? he struggled at 147 in his autobiography he says he struggled with the size and power of collazo who wasnt a big puncher at welterweight so he defiantly struggled at 154 maybe at tht weight floyd would be a little slower but i cant see ricky doing well at 154 his short doesnt have much of a reach and so shud stay at 140
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Originally Posted by Bigsexy
im not saying hattn would beat floyd, but look like a club fighter? hahahahaha this is a guy who made tzyu quit, a 2 weight champion, and you think floyd could make him look like a club fighter? lmfao
Preme i absolutely think so Floyd is that far ahead of him at the last weights they fought at 147. Hatton looked like crap in his fight. I dont ever see them fighting at 140 no way.
I don't think Hatton is the bigger man. Look at their tale of the tape measurements, and they're equal almost across the board. However, Mayweather does have a seven inch reach advantage. So they're physically the same size, except Mayweather has a huge reach advantage, and then you factor in the enormous gap in hand/foot speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by yoitsdan
It all adds up to a wipeout victory for Mayweather.
floyd fought sharmb mitchell at welter for his first bout a washed up has been who was made for floyd were as hatton took a hard fight in collazo a tall, rangy southpaw and also lets not forget world champion
I don't think it's that crazy for him to say Mayweather would make Hatton look like a club fighter. Tszyu was a great champion, but he was almost 36 years old when he fought Hatton, and he had only fought once in the past 2.5 years. People say De La Hoya is old and inactive, but nowhere near as much as Tszyu in either case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Preme
If Gatti lasted 6 lopsided rounds against Floyd, then I see a Hatton fight going 8 or 9 lopsided rounds. I don't think there's one element of boxing that Floyd doesn't do twice as well as Hatton.
EDIT: Actually, when Floyd-DLH finally happens, DLH will have only had one fight in about 2.5 years, so in that case it's similar, but DLH is younger and fresher than Tszyu, that point still stands.
And Hatton thinks hes gonna make PBF come all the way down from 154 to fight him at 140?
He must be joking..... If PBF does that he would be giving Hatton the advantage.
Now Hatton want's to fight PBF now that hes tooken his ass as far up in weight as he could, if PBF declines then Hatton and his supporting cast will say that PBF is scared of him. Mark my words people. ;)
I don't think Floyd will stay at 154 after the fight,the guys are too big,they hit too hard. I guess no one is paying attention to his pussy like crying after the Baldo fight where he said he was retiring!!
I'd still like to see Floyd Hatton,even though Floyd would be favourite,to say he would make Hatton look like a club fighter is wishful thinking.Hatton isn't a Baldo,or a weak minded Judah or a an old SHarmba,he's young,hungry,and has ALOT of pressure. Floyd is still favourite but it would be a good fight.
This is one humorous thread. ;D
Where do you get the idea that Hatton wants it at 140? 147 is where it would be at. That pretty much renderes the last sentance redundant. Although it should be said if the fight never happens it is unthinkable that Floyd could be the reason why, he never is ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Just one thing
....who gives a fuck about what hatton thinks about this fight???
Why shouldnt he have an opinion on it? Your aloud one.
He came very very close to fighting DLH and could still possibly fight PBF. I care what he thinks about the fight.
...I don't, there's more chance of ME fighting De la Hoya or Mayweather Jr. after their match
I wouldnt have thought so, your a fat hillbilly, he's a world class fighter.
One more night to the New Years...then I can really discuss Oscar vs Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Hatton needs to stop focusing on Floyd right now though & worry about Witter.
He'll blow throw the one dimensional Urango. Castillo would actually be the fight I want to see.
That would be a WAR from start to finish I think.
Yeah and I think Ricky may rue the fact he did not fight Floyd when he had the chance,does anyone still think this fight will come off??
That just all depends.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Not really though. For some reason...I think that Castillo might stylistically put a hurtin on Hatton.
....oh that never gets old.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
I'm just saying he has a very slim chance of fighting either guy...his choice of who he wants to win has no sway in who these guys fight next so it's all well and good that he has an opinion on this matter but hey so do jackasses like yourself so what's the point in making a big deal out of it?
Well, Hatton wasn't saying much in other fights. Now that PBF wen't all the way up to 154, now Hatton want's to speak on it. PLease!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Hatton should focus on Urango, and take it one step at a time.
Hes just sounding off, to give his supporters something to talk about.
When did Hatton come very close to fighting DLH?Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Just because he said "I'll fight DLH" doesn't mean it was even remotely close to happening.
DLH's interest in fighting Hatton is less than zero.
...oh that was when Memphis took his trip to Fantasy Land
at 140lbs Hatton is unbeatle in my humble opinion. Was found wanting at slightly higher weight.Had a lot of scenes goiing on in the background though with change of promotion though which cant be over looked.You dont destroy a legend like Tsyzu unless you are equipped to rule this weight. Collazo was highly underrated as well so lets wait before the next fight to see if Hatton is back to his marauding best.
The rumours that Hatton was offered Mayweather are completly unfounded as far as I'm concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Hatton has every right to consider himself "the man to beat" at 140, but in no way, shape, or form is he "unbeatable."Quote:
Originally Posted by bigmanoutofshape
Yes he beat Tszyu, but Tszyu was nearly 36 years old and had fought once in 2.5 years. There are other quality junior welterweights, and now talented lightweights like Jose Luis Castillo and Diego Corrales are being added to the mix. Corrales would enjoy a 5 inch height and reach advantage over Hatton and could give him all types of problems.
fair play sweet pea Corrales would be a danger but i feel Hatton would get to that big skinny body and break him up with his body shots. On form Hatton takes him out in a close fight that would have a lot of drama with a late stoppage
for the Hitman. Hatton hits with a nice bit of power at 140lbs and if he recovers the desire of the Tzyu fight he will be hard for any man to live with.
Actually...the fight was mentioned & from what I understand they were negotiating. In the end, Oscar used his head as usual. He stuck it out for Floyd instead...but more so Oscar was previously interested in signing Hatton...that could have been another factor in pulling the plug.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
In Memp's defense...& no offense to either Lyle or SweetPea...I wouldn't say that Oscar's interest in fighting Hatton is less than zero...it's just Floyd is more established, proven, & in the end equates to more zero's.
Hatton specifically stated that he was not ready for Mayweather...that he would need a few more fights & that then it could be a mega event...but he clearly did state it...this was I believe right after the fight that Sharmba fought on the undercard @ the MEN a bit back.Quote:
Originally Posted by yoitsdan
I'll go back through my discs & hunt it down.
He said it. I remember because it made me respect him a bit more...he seemed to know his limits.
Everytime Floyd is going to fight I hear people saying how so and so is gonna work Floyds body or so and so has too much power or its gonna be his toughest fight...and then Floyd (with the exception of Castillo) thoroughly dominates them, and then there's the ole he was a shot fighter or he was not experienced enough or there was too many distractions during camp etc...soooo i'm going out on a limb here....Floyds gonna thoroughly dominate ODH and every ones gonna say how Oscar had ring rust and was past his prime and blah blah blah....! I just hope it is a great match and that Oscar does push floyd to his limits and win or lose we see an awsome fight like Mosely/ Delahoya 1 ;)
You couldnt be more wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
It's fine to disagree with me, but if you're going to tell me I couldn't be more wrong, how about giving me some examples of why I'm wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
DLH took a comeback/warmup fight with Mayorga, and since that point he's stated a million times that there are very few fighters that can get him emotionally up for training anymore. In other words, DLH at this point only wants to fight guys that would further his legacy. Exactly why would beating Ricky Hatton mean anything to him? Hatton has one notable win on his resume and at this point he has not proven to be a viable fighter above 140 pounds. What would Oscar prove by beating Hatton? The only guys on Oscar's radar screen right now have the last names Mayweather, Trinidad, and Wright.
Memphis let's just simplify this for you....Hatton has always fought at 140 he tried to move up he didn't do very well, and he moved back to 140.
Oscar De la Hoya hasn't fought at 147 in just over 5 years and he barely makes 154 now'a'days
That being covered a De la Hoya-Hatton fight wouldn't happen at 140 where Hatton is because Oscar can't make that weight. The fight won't happen at 147 because Hatton doesn't do well there and Oscar can't make that weight. This just leaves us 154, this is where Ricky has never fought and if Ricky isn't comfortable vs a Luis Collazo at 147 then fighting an all-time great a weight class above that doesn't make much sense now does it?
Hatton came very close to fighting DLH, that is a fact. Not a lot of people were aware of it but if your not convinced ask the guy who runs this place ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
Thanks for pointing that out Lyle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Really, what makes you say that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I'm not sure of the details in the proposed fight between Hatton and DLH but I'm just as sure that Hatton wouldn't have jumped up two weight classes as I am of Oscar not dropping two. Everybody knows that Hatton struggled in his fight with Collazo. Most people know the reasons for him fighting at welterweight in the first place and use a bit of common sense when assessing his performance. Some people ignore it as it is easier to use the Collazo fight a a stick to beat him with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Who knows what kind of welterweight Hatton will make in a couple of fights time. All we can go on is what we know and that is Hatton BEAT Collazo at late notice and with less that ideal preparation. I'm not ready to condemn him at the weight just yet.
The reason for him moving up to 147 was simple, he was chasing PBF....never said he wasn't chasing the guy. PBF just gained more momentum for not fighting him by Ricky having so much trouble with Collazo.
I never saw a Hatton-De la Hoya fight materializing before or after the Collazo fight.
I'm not trying to diss Hatton, I was just saying he doesn't seem to be in a position to fight either fighter after this fight happens and therefore his opinion on this fight means about as much as yours or mine and a big deal shouldn't be made out of it.
He fought Collazo because there was nothing else available and a TV slot had to be filled. There was someone else on the cards (Lazcano I think but he bashed his hand up) at 140 but when that fell through he went up to fight Collazo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Of course he was and still is chasing Floyd (probably in vain) Thats not in dipute.