Get his ass kicked in the ufc, If I remember correctly he fought in something like the UFC and got his back broke.
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Get his ass kicked in the ufc, If I remember correctly he fought in something like the UFC and got his back broke.
He would get his ass beat. Bums like the Gracies would have destroyed him at the first UFC, just like they did to all the other martial arts "masters". Bruce Lee's crudentials are shaky as it is, and his meager fighting record (7 fights or so) is even worse. Nobody really knows who won his one big match against the Gung Fu master in SF (most accounts have it recorded as a draw, with the Gung Fu refusing to use kicks for fear of literally killing Bruce Lee).
I wonder how the five deadly venoms would have done. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Deadly_Venoms
;D
Was that the one Bruce had to fight in order to be allowed to train Americans in chinese martial arts? If so, then Bruce had to have won.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy D
http://www.lakungfu.com/sifujackmanwong.html
Long read, but worth it. Gives you another side of the Bruce Lee story that you never really hear about.
While that was a good read and all I have but one thing to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy D
IF Sifu Wong was in a fight where his life was threaten, and he didn't defend himself as best as he could for fear of jail time. I don't know about the rest of you but If it boils down to your life or my life in a fight, then guess what? It was nice to know 'ya.
I for one like to believe that Master Bruce won that fight.
But like I said good read.
the UFC don't allow death moves.. that’s the Bruce Lee ticket... break the knee cap , snap the neck !
as long as there are rules. who knows?? if they going to be rules Boxing is the only sport that has charisma. style and so on.. that’s my opinion..
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Thought I'd bump this one to the top since theres another Lee thread around.
Plus that link that HeavyD posted really is a good read.
Get his ass kicked.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
Since people want to continue with this sillieness
Anoyone want to guess what Lee's striking speed from 3 feet away was?
500ths of second
Hed wipe these UFC types out in nanoseconds,he isnt a movie star,who used martial arts to make good action sequences
He was a martial artist who made movies to pay the bills
Theres a reason Dana White called Lee the "Father Of MMA"
not if he hit like a woman....and I'm not really sure I buy that stat anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Well its a good thing he didnt hit like a womanQuote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
At the 64 Invitational he knocked a guy off his feet throwing a punch with his arm fully extended first and then throwing
The 1 Inch Punch
Every year some body building magazine runs an article on his physique because frankly most people cant figure out how he did it
Don't know anything about the punch parts but...... I can confirm the body building magazine stuff. I have read numerous articles about him in those type of publications. He did alot of the electro stimulation machines stuff too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
The 64 oneQuote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keS3OTNger8
A later one with some nice slow mo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS6aMdskKSo
ummm...he pushed a guy....whats the big deal
Go up to a punching bagQuote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
Completely extend your arm
See if you can knock the whole thing back about 5 feet
Somehow I dont think youll be able to
Look at his shoulders btwQuote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
When you push somebody,your shoulders lunge,his barely twitches
When you push somebody,you use both hands,fully extended
Not one fist
When you push somebody,you rarely take them off their feet,especially if they know its coming,both guys get knocked bout a good 4-5 feet,off their feet the whole way
It is funny though,your such an MMA apologist,you try to diss the guy that the head of UFC calls the founder of it
He Basically punched him off balance thats nothing special anyone could learn that.
Ok
Learn it then film it then post it in here as undeniable proof
Doubt anyone in my family will let me hit them lol or anyone at my gym won't let me do that crap but its nothing that special nor is it any good because you wouldn't be able to do that in a proper fight so its useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
well Dana is free to have his own opinion, I dont really know what that has to do with me...but I didn't see anything in that vid that was special...I'm not saying its staged...but its looks a little gimmicky...kinda like this crap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W1ym3yggR4
Actually no,it isntQuote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
Lee was at the 64 one,at the invite of Ed Parker
And if you DONT think Lee was the father of MMA,Parker is the only other choice you have
He staged nothing
Again,try doing it yourself
Its allright to crack your Budweiser and talk smack,but you have no idea what your talking about
I find your comments pretty ironic...You've blasted MMA for days now and are completely ignorant of the sport, but I simply tell you that your vid looks suspect and I need to shut up? I've never trained in Jute Keen Do and other than Lee was its founder know nothing about it, but I do watch, train and compete in MMA and can tell you that I watched many a TKD/Karate/KungFu practitioner find their style wanting in a real fight. I still contend that the video looks suspect
And I have trained Ed Parker Ken PoQuote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
Your point?
I mean other then not knowing anything about the legends of US Martial Arts?
MMA is at best,slow
You know nothing about the man who brought the martial arts to the states(Ed Parker) you know nothing about Jeet Kune Do,and you know nothing about a punch that was actually developed in the style known as Wing Chun,and you know nothing about who the founder of UFC credits for the whole thing
But you claim to be a mixed MARTIAL ARTIST
You will always have those who doubt those who ask questions and that is sometimes good BUT when the basis for an arguement is 'The video looks suspect' then you've got to laugh a little....
I mean look at my post on page 1 in regards to the link that HeavyD posted, like I said interesting read and all but why hasn't anyone whos going against the Bruce story responded in defense or against that?
All I'm saying is that I dont see anything special in the video...there is no shortage of martial art masters with videos of them doing what appears to be great feats and are just crap...it just looks like he pushes the guy to me...but I guess thats b/c I don't understand the awesomeness that is Jute Keen Do ;D I have to say Trainer for someone that champions boxings skills and athleticism it suprises me that you are a devout follower of any of the TKD/karate/kung fu varities
What about fighters like Bolo Yeung, Chuck Norris, Van Damme how would they fair in MMA today?
the K1 matches are not a bad watch. I have seem some very interesting matches there at K1 , I enjoy Mark Hunt a great deal
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I used to watch a lot of K1 but not in a while. Mcdonal/Lebanner/Hoost/Bojansky/Sefo/Schlit/Hunt were all alot of fun to watch. Even Sapp's big self was amusing for a little freak show variety.
I agree Van Childs. yeah that McDonald fellow always comes in correct, the K1 bunch have some great athletes very talented .
however the Ultimate fighting cage type matches do nothing for me . too each his own
Actually a better question by farQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I was thinking about Bolo,on just this subject just yesterday
Honest awnser,I dont know,his combination of ungodly strength,and flexibility might be too much,but he allways was(even early) a little sluggish,and not the most driven martial artist.
But jesus christ,if he caught you
Good points...Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
I hated Bolo growing up I couldn't stand him.
Which means he did a great job at playing the villan role. ;D
Bruce lee beat Bolo up on the set of enter the dragon after Bolo challenged him
Well I dont think he could just be thrown in the octigon tomarrow and be champ I will give him credit for having the right idea about using what works in the martial arts and he was very fast and strong for his wieght. so maybe give him a year off jujitsu training and i think he would do well .
I have to say i've watched that vid of the one inch punch quite a few times and to me it just looks like he pushed him back.Ive done it a couple of times to friends and had the same result more or less. If you stand square you are off balance...thats basic physics. If the chap being 'pucnhed' would have been at a 45 degree angle then i doubt the fall backwards into the chair would have been so 'violent'. It looked like a push...the fact the fella was standing square on and went reeling back so easily made it look more impressive.
Sorry but i don't buy the 1 inch punch.
Lee was a good pioneer of 'what works' in a street situation. I train and have trained in combatives for quite some time and lee's moves were some of the most economic and fluid movements there are. His advocated eye gouges, chin jabs but all this stuff had been around since the beginning of time anyway. he just brought them more to the forefront. A lot of the stuff Lee was doing was being taught as WWII combatives by sykes and fairburn for use in unarmed combat in the field of battle.
Lee was a fantastic athlete. No mistake about that...who had amazing attributes. No one can take that away from him.
When Dana calls him the godfather of MMA i think what he means is he was the first martial artist who tried to blend arts together and rightly so. Martial arts has been around since the year dot but bruce trained with the great Gene Lebelle in Judo and a number of other arts to bring together his JKD. Which is more of a concept than an overall art anyway (from what i can gather). Bruce did a lot of good work for martial arts and i do respect him as a a great athlete but sorry...the whole 1 inch punch nonesne is rubbish. Also all this stuff about him as a fighter...hmmmmm
Also as far as traditional martial arts working in a street fight scenario i have posted countless times on this so anyone who has been on here a while should know my views.
Misconception clearing time\
1st The 1 inch punch is taught in the style of Wu Chin,the first style Lee trained in
2nd I would like to see someone who thinks its just a push put their knuckle 1 inch away from someones chest,and launch them airborn 3 feet in to a chair,and then have the chair slid another 3 feet,or in the case of the 64 invitational,just get knocked over
3rd Jeet Kune Do is a style,and there are still two certified trainers of Lees original students Dan Inosanto,and Taky Kimura,both have cerified teachers as well
Misconception clearing time\
1st The 1 inch punch is taught in the style of Wu Chin,the first style Lee trained in
Do you mean Wing Chun? He studied under Yip Man. Also.....ok, the originating art lends no weight to the argument of it being something applicable or real.
2nd I would like to see someone who thinks its just a push put their knuckle 1 inch away from someones chest,and launch them airborn 3 feet in to a chair,and then have the chair slid another 3 feet,or in the case of the 64 invitational,just get knocked over
I didn't see anyone getting 'air' on either of those videos, and definitely not being 'ariborne' for 3 feet and landing into a chair. What i saw was someone standing square on and unbalanced being pushed into a chair. yes there was an element of punching in it but there was also a lot of pushing going on. I'll ask you to do an experiment. Have someone stand square on at you...and push them lightly with your finger, they will start to go back because the weight displacement is incorrect to give good balance if you stand square on.
3rd Jeet Kune Do is a style,and there are still two certified trainers of Lees original students Dan Inosanto,and Taky Kimura,both have cerified teachers as well
I always thought Jeet Kune Do was a concept. In other words. If someone came up to me and demanded my wallet and i spat a greenie in their face causing them to run away. I could call that Jeet Kune Do as it was employing my spitting attribute to fit the situation. Maybe i am grossly wrong on that mark.
Missy does/has done JKD so maybe she can shed some more light on it.
There are roughly 6000 students of Jeet Kune Do right now.The main concept behind it was "the casting off of the useless" but the useful things still need to be taught.
You dont wake up one day and decide,hey I think Ill throw an absolutely perfect side kick,even though Ive never so much as seen one before.
There are things that need to be taught,but Jeet Kune Do,as does Ed Parker Ken Po unlike most other systems,allows for refinement and inovation by the actual instructor
Except for your personal interaction with your instructor,one Jui Jitsui school is pretty similar to every other,Ed Parker,and Jeet Kune Do schools can vary greatly,with only the base attributes being the same
No disrespect but thats an incredibly ignorant thing to write and something i would expect from a teenager talking about his favourite movie star.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey