Issues with the Rocky series
OK in my issues with the Rocky series are:
#1 he was a southpaw slugger
#2 he was a righty who could box a little better
#3 he was a slugger again and then a super slick defensive fighter
#4 he was back to being a slugger
#5 slugger again
If he whipped Mr. T's ass so quick and didn't recieve any damager, wouldn't permenantly switching to a slick boxing style prolong his career even longer??? I know it would cause him to not have brain damage in #5.
In #6 he's fighting AGAIN....after having brain damage
also in #6 he's considered the greatest champ but he had 20 fucking losses before he ever had a title fight much less won a title.
And Rocky's last fights vs Drago and Dixon have been exhibitions so in considering his place in boxing history you must conceed that a few of his bigger fights haven't even been real matches.
I know it's just a movie but Sly needs to get his shit straight
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LOL I wondered the same thing about the brain damage....I guess your supposed to get so wrapped up in the story line that you forget...Or like Tommy Morrision he had false positive brain damage?.....
I remember in 3 when he was having career flashbacks and he was getting pummeled by Clubber in the flashback...He was wearing the red white and blue trunks from the apollo fight...except apollo had not given them to him yet?....
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Or like Tommy Morrision he had false positive brain damage?.....
I read that that was going to be the case in Rocky Balboa. Presumably they thought that was far fetched and best just to ignore the issue ;D
Lyle Im sure Drago was an exibition only for Apollo, Rocky fought him in a non title fight.
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Or like Tommy Morrision he had false positive brain damage?.....
I read that that was going to be the case in Rocky Balboa. Presumably they thought that was far fetched and best just to ignore the issue ;D
Lyle Im sure Drago was an exibition only for Apollo, Rocky fought him in a non title fight.
I guess I missed the thread where you hit 10,000 post, but congrats my British Brother.
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Originally Posted by Memphis
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Or like Tommy Morrision he had false positive brain damage?.....
I read that that was going to be the case in Rocky Balboa. Presumably they thought that was far fetched and best just to ignore the issue ;D
Lyle Im sure Drago was an exibition only for Apollo, Rocky fought him in a non title fight.
I guess I missed the thread where you hit 10,000 post, but congrats my British Brother.
Hey me too CC Memphis on the big 10,000
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Or like Tommy Morrision he had false positive brain damage?.....
I read that that was going to be the case in Rocky Balboa. Presumably they thought that was far fetched and best just to ignore the issue ;D
Lyle Im sure Drago was an exibition only for Apollo, Rocky fought him in a non title fight.
Thanks for clearing that up but I thought being a commie as Drago was he couldn't fight for money??? Hence guys like Savon and Stevenson never went pro
I also wonder what happened to Ivan Drago and Clubber Lang I mean losing to Rocky can't be that bad....Clubber also whipped his ass in the first fight....why no rubber match?
Also where does Tommy Gunn fall in the history of the sport, he was supposed to be Rocky Jr.....and what the hell has Mason Dixon done to deserve such honor as greatest of all-time??? Could he beat Apollo Creed??? Lang or Drago?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Memphis
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Or like Tommy Morrision he had false positive brain damage?.....
I read that that was going to be the case in Rocky Balboa. Presumably they thought that was far fetched and best just to ignore the issue ;D
Lyle Im sure Drago was an exibition only for Apollo, Rocky fought him in a non title fight.
Thanks for clearing that up but I thought being a commie as Drago was he couldn't fight for money??? Hence guys like Savon and Stevenson never went pro
I also wonder what happened to
Ivan Drago and Clubber Lang I mean losing to Rocky can't be that bad....Clubber also whipped his a** in the first fight....why no rubber match?
Also where does Tommy Gunn fall in the history of the sport, he was supposed to be Rocky Jr.....and what the hell has Mason Dixon done to deserve such honor as greatest of all-time??? Could he beat Apollo Creed??? Lang or Drago?
I was a little puzzled at that myself. When Rocky got home after fighting Drago he immediately retired, so when he started training Tommy Gunn everybody was saying the division had paper champions and Gunn was not fighting anybody, it was strange how Drago fell off the face of the earth.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Memphis
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Or like Tommy Morrision he had false positive brain damage?.....
I read that that was going to be the case in Rocky Balboa. Presumably they thought that was far fetched and best just to ignore the issue ;D
Lyle Im sure Drago was an exibition only for Apollo, Rocky fought him in a non title fight.
Thanks for clearing that up but I thought being a commie as Drago was he couldn't fight for money??? Hence guys like Savon and Stevenson never went pro
I also wonder what happened to Ivan Drago and Clubber Lang I mean losing to Rocky can't be that bad....Clubber also whipped his a** in the first fight....why no rubber match?
Also where does Tommy Gunn fall in the history of the sport, he was supposed to be Rocky Jr.....and what the hell has Mason Dixon done to deserve such honor as greatest of all-time??? Could he beat Apollo Creed??? Lang or Drago?
Well creed would out point Dixon...His piston jab would be the factor...
IMO Dixon would outbox the Russian as long as he did not get caught....Lang would just destroy Dixon...To strong to fast!!!
Dixon is not an all time great but one of the best of this era....
Gunn fights here and there...but since getting in trouble after fighting in the street they took his title away...He gained about 75lbs during his suspension and for some reason or another can't get back into shape....
Spider Rico worked with him for a while but Gunn didn't want to listen and he and Rico did not see eye to eye on a lot of things so that ended that...
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i have two issues one in rocky 2 his eye is so bad that he almost retired this is not mentioned in any of the other rockys plus what about brain damamge from rocky 5 he would of been dead amount of punshiment he took off tommy morrison and dixon and yea i agree with lyle why didnt he turn into boxer after 2nd clubber lang fight would of been easier but maybe lyle he didnt want to turn into boxer vs drago because he see how easily he destroyed creed who was good defensive boxer himself maybe he thought that tactic wouldnt work
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Bravo ICB, I totally forgot about the eye, CC
Yeah Creed just got backed into a corner vs Drago he didn't "Hook out" as he taught Rocky to do in #3....a boxer could beat Drago, besides Rocky had the better chin.
Also he's 30 years old in #1 which makes him 60+ in #6
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I guess I missed the thread where you hit 10,000 post, but congrats my British Brother.
Hey me too CC Memphis on the big 10,000
Thanks fella's CC's back ;)
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Bravo ICB, I totally forgot about the eye, CC
Yeah Creed just got backed into a corner vs Drago he didn't "Hook out" as he taught Rocky to do in #3....a boxer could beat Drago, besides Rocky had the better chin.
Also he's 30 years old in #1 which makes him 60+ in #6
cc back mate and cc memphis for your 10 k :)
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Stop analyzing the Rocky series like its real you nerds! ;D
And for the record, prime Apollo Creed whips em all.
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You notice Rocky took on "The German champion" in one of his ten title defences. He was clearly ducking the British heavyweight champion at the time. Think it might have been Danny Williams.
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Stop analyzing the Rocky series like its real you nerds! ;D
And for the record, prime Apollo Creed whips em all.
floyd mayweather jr. is the modern days answer to apollo creed (except pbf is a welterweight and would never lose to rocky balboa, too many losses on his record ;))
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The WORST thing about the Rocky Series is in Rocky II when they change the rules of boxing. At the very end, Rocky knocks Creed down, but slips after he throws the haymaker, and for some reason, Rocky must also beat Creeds count to win.
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cmon guys jus enjoy the movie .... they dint forget bout the brain damage stallone jus forgot about his brain damage because he has brain damage that was the whole point
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Memphis
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Or like Tommy Morrision he had false positive brain damage?.....
I read that that was going to be the case in Rocky Balboa. Presumably they thought that was far fetched and best just to ignore the issue ;D
Lyle Im sure Drago was an exibition only for Apollo, Rocky fought him in a non title fight.
Thanks for clearing that up but I thought being a commie as Drago was he couldn't fight for money??? Hence guys like Savon and Stevenson never went pro
I also wonder what happened to Ivan Drago and Clubber Lang I mean losing to Rocky can't be that bad....Clubber also whipped his a** in the first fight....why no rubber match?
Also where does Tommy Gunn fall in the history of the sport, he was supposed to be Rocky Jr.....and what the hell has Mason Dixon done to deserve such honor as greatest of all-time??? Could he beat Apollo Creed??? Lang or Drago?
Well creed would out point Dixon...His piston jab would be the factor...
IMO Dixon would outbox the Russian as long as he did not get caught....Lang would just destroy Dixon...To strong to fast!!!
Dixon is not an all time great but one of the best of this era....
Gunn fights here and there...but since getting in trouble after fighting in the street they took his title away...He gained about 75lbs during his suspension and for some reason or another can't get back into shape....
Spider Rico worked with him for a while but Gunn didn't want to listen and he and Rico did not see eye to eye on a lot of things so that ended that...
so tommy gun being train by spider rico ? WTF did they state this in rocky 6 or something , because that would explain something to me since i ha vnt seen it .
spider rico is the bum club fighter rocky fights in the orginal movie right?
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Apollo Creed was the greatest and Rocky only got to him when he was out of his prime and unmotivated to continue boxing . He could have cruised the last round of the Rocky rematch if they fought 100 times Apollo would win 99.
Tommy Gunn probably could beat anyone in the division and i dont understand how Rocky more brain damaged in 5 they wanted Morrison to beat him to prove he was good. Apparently a glass chin champion doesnt impress them with Gunn beating but a brain dead ex champ who will never reach his prime with brain damage wows them. So basically they said alright you just knocked out Lennox Lewis but that doesn't prove anything until you take out Holyfield. Thats the media :)
I stopped analysing there because I didnt want to see Rocky beat The Master of the Universe himself ;D
But my boo apollo beats them all(in his prime) :-*
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Apollo Creed was the greatest and Rocky only got to him when he was out of his prime and unmotivated to continue boxing . He could have cruised the last round of the Rocky rematch if they fought 100 times Apollo would win 99.
Tommy Gunn probably could beat anyone in the division and i dont understand how Rocky more brain damaged in 5 they wanted Morrison to beat him to prove he was good. Apparently a glass chin champion doesnt impress them with Gunn beating but a brain dead ex champ who will never reach his prime with brain damage wows them. So basically they said alright you just knocked out Lennox Lewis but that doesn't prove anything until you take out Holyfield. Thats the media :)
I stopped analysing there because I didnt want to see Rocky beat The Master of the Universe himself ;D
But my boo apollo beats them all(in his prime) :-*
I always said if Apollo was a real fighter with his style and speed he wouldhave been a champion :D