CutMeMick's great work on the awards thread got me thinking about 2007 and who will be the big star of the year.
Please post one fighter who you think will dominate in 07 and one fighter who will emerge as a force on the world stage.
Thanks.
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CutMeMick's great work on the awards thread got me thinking about 2007 and who will be the big star of the year.
Please post one fighter who you think will dominate in 07 and one fighter who will emerge as a force on the world stage.
Thanks.
barrera beats pac and JMM, andre berto becomes a forceQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
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Well.... I'm gonna say 2007 will be all Rafael Marquez as I think he will move up in weight and will dominate the Super Bantamweight div.
The fighter that I think will emrge as a force in his division is Giovanni Segura.
im gonna go with paul williams and edison miranda both making huge noise in 07
Sam Peter - Beats Toney in a close decision and then proceeds to blow Maskaev out of the water. After that he fights some ordinary challenger like Lamon Brewster or a second rate champion like Briggs or Valuev and blows then out to. If he is away from a real good boxer who can establish distance, he's good. Basically...unless he fights Wlad he is fine.
Runner up is Chad Dawson. I flip flop on this Adamek fight every other second but I think he wins in a potential FOTY, and goes on to beat someone of the likes of Julio Gonzalez in another really good fight. He's been groomed for 2007 to be his year and I don't think he disappoints.
REMEMBER the question was Dominate and emerge on the WORLD stage!
I think one fighter will dominate the Imagination of the public and the spotlight of the huge "casual" boxing fan. If the Rocky 49-0 record is challenged that and the controversy around the legitamacy of Valuev's record alone will be the biggest headline and news in boxing in a long time. If its done by a guy thats 7' 3" tall 365 lbs THAT will generate interest both pro and con. The fact that it's a european spreads the interest level. VALUEV will dominate the news. And grab a portion of sports and general news and media attention usually reserved for non-boxing sports. It will happen because he is a SPECTACLE beyond normal boxings boundries. Hopefully now that there is enough money and interest he will use his pride to overcome his feelings of not wanting to be a giant. I hope he dedicates himself to learn how to box so that boxing fans can respect him for that and not just ridicule him as a freak.
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I think Mikkel Kessler will have a big year. He wont get his fight with Calzaghe but he will continue to fight the best available and dominate super middle before becoming a two division champ (175) late in the year.
I dont want to read too much into Cotto's win over Quintana but he did look very strong and will certainly take some stopping this year.
Forgot about Miranda well done frozensolid ;)
CC's amat and landmine950 ;D
IMO, Kessler is there to beat. If Calzaghe gets his shit together and fights him, he will win.
Valuev....we've gone over this before so I'm not going to bother.
I wanted to say Williams, because I think he beats Margarito. But who after that? He stays away from Floyd for a bit. Possibly Mosley? Doubt it. Cotto? No way would Arum let that happen. Clottey? That would be a war. I would LOVE to see that. CC Memph and FS.
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Originally Posted by amat
im gonna go out on a limb and say that williams beats everybody in the welterweight divison hands down except for floyd and maybe mosely (those two will box the prospect to pieces) and cotto may even be a war assuming that paul irons out those couple of enourmous flaws in his fight game.
i say cotto because hes been somewhat chinny in the past, and the punisher can flat out bang with the best of them
cc's to everybody on the thread............... excellent topic
Cotto has improved A LOT though. He's basically a polished product while Williams is still raw. I would have to go back a bit to check both of them but I couldn't make a prediction right now. And if Williams does beat Margarito then no way does Arum put him in with his other 147 lb moneymaker. But Cotto is good. And I've been severely down on Cotto before. But his in and out game has improved, he's shortened up and he's really become a complete fighter. Again would have to look at the tapes but Cotto isn't just a fun guy to watch anymore, he's a legit contender.
Valuev is not going to dominate the news.....just look who he's fighting, who is dumb enough to buy that bullshit???
The boxers set for a breakout year are.......
Eddie Chambers
He's a young, undefeated, AMERICAN HEAVYWEIGHT....and he has had some good fights....he doesn't have KO power though
Chazz Witherspoon
He's a young, undefeated, AMERICAN HEAVYWEIGHT with KO power and a household name....WITHERSPOON his Uncle wasn't super but he was pretty good and this division will take that anyday of the week
I would say Calvin Brock but there is no telling how he reacts to his KO loss to Wladimir
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Originally Posted by amat
agreed............... i saw cotto for the 1st time waaaay back (i think shobox, but i could be wrong) and thought with the right training and management, he could be a future star. now a couple years later, cotto has lived up to my personal expectations (good puerto rican fighter, but NEVER gonna be on the same page as trinidad like many have been labeling him) but i just think that paul is gonna be a megastar within a couple years (first at 154, then maybe 160) and has all the tools to live up to my expectations
and youre absolutely right............ no way does arum put cotto in the ring with williams, he'll just wait for the inevitable jump in weight class by williams instead
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Originally Posted by amat
Well i dont think he'll beat Toney but if he does I dont think he's really any better than Maskaev,or even Rahman for that matter. He's big and strong but so are all the heavies now. Chagaev is 230, Even Ruiz is 238! same for Maskaev and Rahman. Joe Mesi was 239 in june 2006! Peter fought all 2004 and 2005 at under 250 and came to 256-7 for 2007. I think some of the others are as strong and maybe Mask and rachman are stronger. And I think you would agree that they are probably ALL better boxers. I dont see the guy making a big splash anywhere except the swimming pool in Las Vegas.
Lorenzo Parra will be big in 2007.
As for youngsters who'll step up? Allan Green. He'll have fools breaking there ankles trying to jump back on the band wagon.
CC. Haven't seen Chambers but Witherspoon is awesome. 100 punches a round and he gets stronger as the fight goes on. That alone should draw attention to him. He looked good against Alexander. Fought in a shitty ring, had trouble early and came back to dominate. Looked good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
It'll be a big year for 1 or even both my boys,Cotto and Margarito. If TOny can beat Williams and Cotto,of which he is more than capable,that would be awesome!
The big rising name will be,well I'd like it to be Lorenzo Parra,a great fighter,beats peeps in their backyards and takes tough tough fights but I think it'll be Miranda. I hope,honestly,that he KTFO Abraham and Taylor!
Audley
By the end of the year his train will be going so fast you wont be able to get back on it.
I dont know mate. It'll be taking that many stops along the way so he can tell us all how great he is even the slowest on the uptake can climb aboard ;D
Nobody wants to get on a ride that's going no where.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Hows Pinto's train running? ;D
It's been retired. Atleast he knew when to call it quits. What's next for the 55 year old Harrison, anyway? Rubber match with Williams? Rematch with Guinn? Wow. That train really flyingQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Probably ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Has Pinto really retired?
Oh ye of little faith
A-Force = 2007 World champ
2008 UNDISPUTED!!!!
Watch and weep.
Looks that way. He was disgusted with the sport after the Vince Phillips incident. Hasn't fought since.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Now I've seen it all. A-Fraud, world champion? Harrison himself would laugh at that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Not at all.
He was robbed and injured (elbow, kept it quiet) in the two losses last year.
Didn't you see the demolition job he done on Williams?
Faster than Vitali.
Says it all.
I saw his win over the fat out of shaped Williams. Wasn't impressed. Williams never really any good, anyway. And when was he robbed? You can't seriously mean the first Williams fight or the Guinn fight, do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Two people being mentioned Miranda and Allan Green look like they are headed for a showdown early this year.
I like Green and wish they couyld avoid each other for awhile, he is another exciting fighter.
I think Miranda will pull off the win, but there is no doubt the winner of the fight will make themselves very well known during 2007.
I also think Juan Urango may pull off the upset against Hatton. The style is there for him to pull it off.
If so, he could become a big name also this year.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Audley was the victim of a disgusting sick robbery in both Danny 1 and the Guinn fight, everyone knows that, and if they don't, they don't know boxing.
And you think Williams was never any good?
Not only did he batter prime Tyson BUT prime Julius Francis too. Williams never any good ::**
Donut.
I agree fenster. Audley is guna be huge in 2008. He was just hustling Williams in the 1st fight. Done the same with Guinn. He's guna KO Guinn and then he's guna whoop Valuev shortly before releasing a rap single and finally retiring as the UNDISPUTED heavyweight champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
The real sad part is that you actually believe that. No wonder British boxers gets so little respect outside there home countryQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Take him off the heat Fenster.........he's cooked ;D
You need to take Fenster off the drugs. His brains cookedQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
You know you want some ;D
My boy Jhonny Gonzalez, he's gonna have at least 4 fights with out a defeat.
So will Amir KahnQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Never said I didn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Gonzalez is fighting Penalosa in the Phillipines, Khan is just gonna sit around his home and bank roll, nothing wrong with that, but you can't compare the competition they will be facing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
I reckon Ronald Hearns will get some attention on account of his famous name.
I'm also tipping Cory Spinks to spring a major suprise and to beat one of the top guys out there, either Margarito, Mosely or Ouma.
Call me crazy, (or a mental) but I've got a sneaky feeling he's going to be next years Carlos Baldimor.
Yeah but fighting the guy who drives you to the arena ain't all that impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono