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if collazo does beat mosely....
and convincinly
will hatton be given credit?
or will mosely be known as finished?
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Originally Posted by oakleyno1
and convincinly
will hatton be given credit?
or will mosely be known as finished?
I will give Hatton more credit for beating Collazo IF he does that. I think Sugar is gonna school him though.
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
if callozo beats mosely him and hatton should fight
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It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton. Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
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I honestly think Mosley will knock out Callazo, and then we might get to see Mosley Citron.... If this happens, I think Citron wins by Ko.
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I honestly think Mosley will knock out Callazo, and then we might get to see Mosley Citron.... If this happens, I think Citron wins by Ko.
Well I think that if Citron and Mosley were to fight Mosley would win he has more polished skills and his hand speed woul make the difference he would out box and hit citron all night long ::**
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by oakleyno1
and convincinly
will hatton be given credit?
or will mosely be known as finished?
Both.
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton. Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
:coolclick: Agreed.
The whole thing in a nutshell...& no offence to Ricky...but Collazo beat him.
He'll have a lot harder night against Mosley though. Mosley knows what's ahead with Collazo & you can damned well believe that he'll come equipped.
Mosley by late round TKO.
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton. Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
Was it lack of balls or lack of bucks ???
Would the guy that took on Kosta Tszyu be scared of Luis Collazo, a guy he has already beat ::**
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton. Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
Was it lack of balls or lack of bucks ???
Would the guy that took on Kosta Tszyu be scared of Luis Collazo, a guy he has already beat ::**
He has a decision over Collazo...one that many don't agree with.
Hatton has balls...but he offered Colloza a rematch & then went back to 140 to face an easy shot @ a belt...& it is going to be easy.
Collazo deserved the rematch.
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton. Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
Hatton won that fight.. by a round albeit, but he clearly won.
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton. Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
Was it lack of balls or lack of bucks ???
Would the guy that took on Kosta Tszyu be scared of Luis Collazo, a guy he has already beat ::**
He has a decision over Collazo...one that many don't agree with.
Hatton has balls...but he offered Colloza a rematch & then went back to 140 to face an easy shot @ a belt...& it is going to be easy.
Collazo deserved the rematch.
He may have deserved a rematch, but that aint Ricky's problem, he fought him and beat him, now move on to bigger fish (Like Urango ;D)
It makes sense to go back to 140, he wasn't suited to 147, which negated his key strengths, i.e Speed, Movement, Stamina
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by BIG H
He may have deserved a rematch, but that aint Ricky's problem, he fought him and beat him, now move on to bigger fish (Like Urango ;D)
Sorry babe...he lost that fight & yes it was smart to move back down...because he would have lost one that the judges couldn't have balied him out of. ;D :-*
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by BIG H
He may have deserved a rematch, but that aint Ricky's problem, he fought him and beat him, now move on to bigger fish (Like Urango ;D)
Sorry babe...he lost that fight & yes it was smart to move back down...because he would have lost one that the judges couldn't have balied him out of. ;D :-*
I have watched the fight objectively several times and I think Ricky won it by 1 round by virtue of the 10-8 round - but was so close.
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton. Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
Was it lack of balls or lack of bucks ???
Would the guy that took on Kosta Tszyu be scared of Luis Collazo, a guy he has already beat ::**
He has a decision over Collazo...one that many don't agree with.
Hatton has balls...but he offered Colloza a rematch & then went back to 140 to face an easy shot @ a belt...& it is going to be easy.
Collazo deserved the rematch.
He may have deserved a rematch, but that aint Ricky's problem, he fought him and beat him, now move on to bigger fish (Like Urango ;D)
It makes sense to go back to 140, he wasn't suited to 147, which negated his key strengths, i.e Speed, Movement, Stamina
It makes sense only cuz it saves Hatton from another ass kicking. Why open your mouth and agree to a rematch and than run like a bitch out of the division
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton. Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
Was it lack of balls or lack of bucks ???
Would the guy that took on Kosta Tszyu be scared of Luis Collazo, a guy he has already beat ::**
He has a decision over Collazo...one that many don't agree with.
Hatton has balls...but he offered Colloza a rematch & then went back to 140 to face an easy shot @ a belt...& it is going to be easy.
Collazo deserved the rematch.
He may have deserved a rematch, but that aint Ricky's problem, he fought him and beat him, now move on to bigger fish (Like Urango ;D)
It makes sense to go back to 140, he wasn't suited to 147, which negated his key strengths, i.e Speed, Movement, Stamina
It makes sense only cuz it saves Hatton from another a** kicking. Why open your mouth and agree to a rematch and than run like a bitch out of the division
Whatever you think neither of them took an ass kicking, it was just a close fight - and Hatton wasn't the one eating mat after the first punch ;)
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton. Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
Was it lack of balls or lack of bucks ???
Would the guy that took on Kosta Tszyu be scared of Luis Collazo, a guy he has already beat ::**
He has a decision over Collazo...one that many don't agree with.
Hatton has balls...but he offered Colloza a rematch & then went back to 140 to face an easy shot @ a belt...& it is going to be easy.
Collazo deserved the rematch.
He may have deserved a rematch, but that aint Ricky's problem, he fought him and beat him, now move on to bigger fish (Like Urango ;D)
It makes sense to go back to 140, he wasn't suited to 147, which negated his key strengths, i.e Speed, Movement, Stamina
It makes sense only cuz it saves Hatton from another a** kicking. Why open your mouth and agree to a rematch and than run like a bitch out of the division
Whatever you think neither of them took an ass kicking, it was just a close fight - and Hatton wasn't the one eating mat after the first punch ;)
Hatton was the one with the busted up face who was out on his feet in the 12th round. If it wasn't for his patent grabbing skills he would of been knocked the fuck out
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
Well this fight will definitely tell me more about Collazo although I personally think he's really skilled. I was unsure at first but after seeing more fights,you can see he's good,tricky. I actually think Hatton won but peeps were expecting a better performance. The fact is,and I'm no big Ricky fan,but he still won. The only thing I dislike is that he said he would rematch Luis and didn't,I thought that sucked but facts are facts,Hatton won. If Luis wins,Hatton's win goes up imo.
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton.   Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
Was it lack of balls or lack of bucks  ???
Would the guy that took on Kosta Tszyu be scared of Luis Collazo, a guy he has already beat  ::**
He has a decision over Collazo...one that many don't agree with.
Hatton has balls...but he offered Colloza a rematch & then went back to 140 to face an easy shot @ a belt...& it is going to be easy.
Collazo deserved the rematch.
He may have deserved a rematch, but that aint Ricky's problem, he fought him and beat him, now move on to bigger fish (Like Urango  ;D)
It makes sense to go back to 140, he wasn't suited to 147, which negated his key strengths, i.e Speed, Movement, Stamina
It makes sense only cuz it saves Hatton from another a** kicking.  Why open your mouth and agree to a rematch and than run like a bitch out of the division
Whatever you think neither of them took an a** kicking, it was just a close fight - and Hatton wasn't the one eating mat after the first punch  ;)
Hatton was the one with the busted up face who was out on his feet in the 12th round.  If it wasn't for his patent grabbing skills he would of been knocked the F*** out
thats name of the game bro when your in trouble clinch do whatever u have to do to survive i had hatton winning by 1 point but that was hattons first time at that weight and like hagler said u didnt see real ricky hatton in that fight and i agree with him but i do agree with what your saying vd i would of rematched him aswell would of been better for ricky then to prove doubters wrong
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton. Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
Was it lack of balls or lack of bucks ???
Would the guy that took on Kosta Tszyu be scared of Luis Collazo, a guy he has already beat ::**
He has a decision over Collazo...one that many don't agree with.
Hatton has balls...but he offered Colloza a rematch & then went back to 140 to face an easy shot @ a belt...& it is going to be easy.
Collazo deserved the rematch.
He may have deserved a rematch, but that aint Ricky's problem, he fought him and beat him, now move on to bigger fish (Like Urango ;D)
It makes sense to go back to 140, he wasn't suited to 147, which negated his key strengths, i.e Speed, Movement, Stamina
It makes sense only cuz it saves Hatton from another a** kicking. Why open your mouth and agree to a rematch and than run like a bitch out of the division
Whatever you think neither of them took an a** kicking, it was just a close fight - and Hatton wasn't the one eating mat after the first punch ;)
Hatton was the one with the busted up face who was out on his feet in the 12th round. If it wasn't for his patent grabbing skills he would of been knocked the F*** out
thats name of the game bro when your in trouble clinch do whatever u have to do to survive i had hatton winning by 1 point but that was hattons first time at that weight and like hagler said u didnt see real ricky hatton in that fight and i agree with him but
i do agree with what your saying vd i would of rematched him aswell would of been better for ricky then to prove doubters wrong
Little by little your learning Ice. Your starting to state your own opinions as oppose as always going by others. Good
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton. Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
Was it lack of balls or lack of bucks ???
Would the guy that took on Kosta Tszyu be scared of Luis Collazo, a guy he has already beat ::**
He has a decision over Collazo...one that many don't agree with.
Hatton has balls...but he offered Colloza a rematch & then went back to 140 to face an easy shot @ a belt...& it is going to be easy.
Collazo deserved the rematch.
If Collazo had the name, and could bring the payday that Castillo can then yes he deserves it. But Hatton still won that fight, and every judge, TV channel and credible journalist had Hatton winning that fight.
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton. Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
Was it lack of balls or lack of bucks ???
Would the guy that took on Kosta Tszyu be scared of Luis Collazo, a guy he has already beat ::**
He has a decision over Collazo...one that many don't agree with.
Hatton has balls...but he offered Colloza a rematch & then went back to 140 to face an easy shot @ a belt...& it is going to be easy.
Collazo deserved the rematch.
If Collazo had the name, and could bring the payday that Castillo can then yes he deserves it. But Hatton still won that fight, and every judge, TV channel and credible journalist had Hatton winning that fight.
I guess Urango is bringing a Castillo type payday, huh?
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton. Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
Was it lack of balls or lack of bucks ???
Would the guy that took on Kosta Tszyu be scared of Luis Collazo, a guy he has already beat ::**
He has a decision over Collazo...one that many don't agree with.
Hatton has balls...but he offered Colloza a rematch & then went back to 140 to face an easy shot @ a belt...& it is going to be easy.
Collazo deserved the rematch.
If Collazo had the name, and could bring the payday that Castillo can then yes he deserves it. But Hatton still won that fight, and every judge, TV channel and credible journalist had Hatton winning that fight.
I guess Urango is bringing a Castillo type payday, huh?
Yes. In the form of a 140 readjustment, a belt and a tough fight with a similar style to Castillo.
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton. Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
Was it lack of balls or lack of bucks ???
Would the guy that took on Kosta Tszyu be scared of Luis Collazo, a guy he has already beat ::**
He has a decision over Collazo...one that many don't agree with.
Hatton has balls...but he offered Colloza a rematch & then went back to 140 to face an easy shot @ a belt...& it is going to be easy.
Collazo deserved the rematch.
If Collazo had the name, and could bring the payday that Castillo can then yes he deserves it. But Hatton still won that fight, and every judge, TV channel and credible journalist had Hatton winning that fight.
I guess Urango is bringing a Castillo type payday, huh?
Yes. In the form of a 140 readjustment, a belt and a tough fight with a similar style to Castillo.
Urango's style is similar to Castillo, how? Urango has no body attack. He has no idea how to cut off a ring. He's slow as a glacier and correct me if I'm wrong, but does he not fight out of the southpaw stand? How is it similar to Castillo's?
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton. Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
Was it lack of balls or lack of bucks ???
Would the guy that took on Kosta Tszyu be scared of Luis Collazo, a guy he has already beat ::**
He has a decision over Collazo...one that many don't agree with.
Hatton has balls...but he offered Colloza a rematch & then went back to 140 to face an easy shot @ a belt...& it is going to be easy.
Collazo deserved the rematch.
He may have deserved a rematch, but that aint Ricky's problem, he fought him and beat him, now move on to bigger fish (Like Urango ;D)
It makes sense to go back to 140, he wasn't suited to 147, which negated his key strengths, i.e Speed, Movement, Stamina
It makes sense only cuz it saves Hatton from another a** kicking. Why open your mouth and agree to a rematch and than run like a bitch out of the division
Whatever you think neither of them took an a** kicking, it was just a close fight - and Hatton wasn't the one eating mat after the first punch ;)
Hatton was the one with the busted up face who was out on his feet in the 12th round. If it wasn't for his patent grabbing skills he would of been knocked the F*** out
thats name of the game bro when your in trouble clinch do whatever u have to do to survive i had hatton winning by 1 point but that was hattons first time at that weight and like hagler said u didnt see real ricky hatton in that fight and i agree with him but
i do agree with what your saying vd i would of rematched him aswell would of been better for ricky then to prove doubters wrong
Little by little your learning Ice. Your starting to state your own opinions as oppose as always going by others. Good
thanks bro ive learnt alot of this site with all you knowledgeable posters
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by BIG H
He may have deserved a rematch, but that aint Ricky's problem, he fought him and beat him, now move on to bigger fish (Like Urango ;D)
Sorry babe...he lost that fight & yes it was smart to move back down...because he would have lost one that the judges couldn't have balied him out of. ;D :-*
I have watched the fight objectively several times and I think Ricky won it by 1 round by virtue of the 10-8 round - but was so close.
I second that, It was a close fight which I think Hatton just about edged. The early knockdown sealed it.
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
VD - is Hatton too English for you bro ? ;D
He beat Collazo and whilst putting in a very average performance with little preparation.
Collazo held all the cards - natural weight, belt holder, american soil...... and blew it !
I will concede he won it by a whisker - but he WON.
Furthermore - if Hatton did get it on again, he would beat him by country mile - Ricky's problem was that he couldnt get up for a fight with a guy he knew nothing about - especially given all his other stressful problems like having to fly to new york 2 weeks before to go to court because of Frank Warren then fly back to the UK again.
He is a simple human being - hell, would anyone want a 3hour airport wait, then a 7 hour flight to a case hearing across the atlantic, then fly all the way back again 2 weeks from your HBO debut?
Combined with the uncertainty that it would even go ahead (Warren tried to scupper it until the night) - it was a 'bad penny' desitned to be doomed.
But Hatton's grit pulled out the narrowest of wins.
So VD & Wacko - digest that.
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Ricky's team have been quite open that his preparation was all wrong and he put on the weight to quickly. He entered the ring as a Middleweight at 160lbs. Now for a guy who's hole game plan is work rate and out and out pressure, it's no surprise that this extra weight caused him problems.
Not an excuse it's his teams own fault, but it was a good lesson learnt and at the end of the day he still won the fight
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I just hope after PBF's track and field UD win against OSCAR hell come back down and fight Mosley.
And YES I think Mosley beats Collazo and I already give Hatton credit for that fight
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It means Collazo will have beaten both Mosley and Hatton. Only difference is I think Mosley has the balls to rematch Collazo.
still crying about that? awww
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by oakleyno1
and convincinly
will hatton be given credit?
or will mosely be known as finished?
I would have to say both.
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
VD - is Hatton too English for you bro ? ;D
He beat Collazo and whilst putting in a very average performance with little preparation.
Collazo held all the cards - natural weight, belt holder, american soil...... and blew it !
I will concede he won it by a whisker - but he WON.
Furthermore - if Hatton did get it on again, he would beat him by country mile - Ricky's problem was that he couldnt get up for a fight with a guy he knew nothing about - especially given all his other stressful problems like having to fly to new york 2 weeks before to go to court because of Frank Warren then fly back to the UK again.
He is a simple human being - hell, would anyone want a 3hour airport wait, then a 7 hour flight to a case hearing across the atlantic, then fly all the way back again 2 weeks from your HBO debut?
Combined with the uncertainty that it would even go ahead (Warren tried to scupper it until the night) - it was a 'bad penny' desitned to be doomed.
But Hatton's grit pulled out the narrowest of wins.
So VD & Wacko - digest that.
Don't give me this Hatton had little time to prepare for the fight bullshit. Cuz guess what? Collazo had little time to prepare for the fight as well. And that's the reason right there why Hatton punked out of a rematch. Hell if Collazo kicked his ass with only little preparation. Imagine what he would of done with a full camp. Hatton didn't want to find out. So he did the coward's move and ran. Ran his ass out of the division. As for the Warren thing? O' well. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Every fighter has them. Deal with them. You do business with a snake long enough eventually he's going to bite you. That's all that was happening. Warren was bit Hatton.
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
VD - is Hatton too English for you bro ? ;D
He beat Collazo and whilst putting in a very average performance with little preparation.
Collazo held all the cards - natural weight, belt holder, american soil...... and blew it !
I will concede he won it by a whisker - but he WON.
Furthermore - if Hatton did get it on again, he would beat him by country mile - Ricky's problem was that he couldnt get up for a fight with a guy he knew nothing about - especially given all his other stressful problems like having to fly to new york 2 weeks before to go to court because of Frank Warren then fly back to the UK again.
He is a simple human being - hell, would anyone want a 3hour airport wait, then a 7 hour flight to a case hearing across the atlantic, then fly all the way back again 2 weeks from your HBO debut?
Combined with the uncertainty that it would even go ahead (Warren tried to scupper it until the night) - it was a 'bad penny' desitned to be doomed.
But Hatton's grit pulled out the narrowest of wins.
So VD & Wacko - digest that.
Don't give me this Hatton had little time to prepare for the fight bullshit. Cuz guess what? Collazo had little time to prepare for the fight as well. And that's the reason right there why Hatton punked out of a rematch. Hell if Collazo kicked his a** with only little preparation. Imagine what he would of done with a full camp. Hatton didn't want to find out. So he did the coward's move and ran. Ran his a** out of the division. As for the Warren thing? O' well. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Every fighter has them. Deal with them. You do business with a snake long enough eventually he's going to bite you. That's all that was happening. Warren was bit Hatton.
Thanks VD. I know you were defending yourself...but it saved me the time of really wasting my energy on this.
Wacko-digest what? The load of shit you were trying to feed me? Please. Anyways, Hatton lost & got a gift...let's just move on. :lickish:
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
VD - is Hatton too English for you bro ? ;D
He beat Collazo and whilst putting in a very average performance with little preparation.
Collazo held all the cards - natural weight, belt holder, american soil...... and blew it !
I will concede he won it by a whisker - but he WON.
Furthermore - if Hatton did get it on again, he would beat him by country mile - Ricky's problem was that he couldnt get up for a fight with a guy he knew nothing about - especially given all his other stressful problems like having to fly to new york 2 weeks before to go to court because of Frank Warren then fly back to the UK again.
He is a simple human being - hell, would anyone want a 3hour airport wait, then a 7 hour flight to a case hearing across the atlantic, then fly all the way back again 2 weeks from your HBO debut?
Combined with the uncertainty that it would even go ahead (Warren tried to scupper it until the night) - it was a 'bad penny' desitned to be doomed.
But Hatton's grit pulled out the narrowest of wins.
So VD & Wacko - digest that.
Don't give me this Hatton had little time to prepare for the fight bullshit. Cuz guess what? Collazo had little time to prepare for the fight as well. And that's the reason right there why Hatton punked out of a rematch. Hell if Collazo kicked his a** with only little preparation. Imagine what he would of done with a full camp. Hatton didn't want to find out. So he did the coward's move and ran. Ran his a** out of the division. As for the Warren thing? O' well. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Every fighter has them. Deal with them. You do business with a snake long enough eventually he's going to bite you. That's all that was happening. Warren was bit Hatton.
Thanks VD. I know you were defending yourself...but it saved me the time of really wasting my energy on this.
Wacko-digest what? The load of shit you were trying to feed me? Please. Anyways, Hatton lost & got a gift...let's just move on. :lickish:
No thanks needed. These Hatton groupies have every excuse imaginable. They just need to be set straight. It was CityOfCock turns to be put in placed.
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
then Margarito will want a match with Collazo
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
VD - is Hatton too English for you bro ? ;D
He beat Collazo and whilst putting in a very average performance with little preparation.
Collazo held all the cards - natural weight, belt holder, american soil...... and blew it !
I will concede he won it by a whisker - but he WON.
Furthermore - if Hatton did get it on again, he would beat him by country mile - Ricky's problem was that he couldnt get up for a fight with a guy he knew nothing about - especially given all his other stressful problems like having to fly to new york 2 weeks before to go to court because of Frank Warren then fly back to the UK again.
He is a simple human being - hell, would anyone want a 3hour airport wait, then a 7 hour flight to a case hearing across the atlantic, then fly all the way back again 2 weeks from your HBO debut?
Combined with the uncertainty that it would even go ahead (Warren tried to scupper it until the night) - it was a 'bad penny' desitned to be doomed.
But Hatton's grit pulled out the narrowest of wins.
So VD & Wacko - digest that.
Don't give me this Hatton had little time to prepare for the fight bullshit. Cuz guess what? Collazo had little time to prepare for the fight as well. And that's the reason right there why Hatton punked out of a rematch. Hell if Collazo kicked his ass with only little preparation. Imagine what he would of done with a full camp. Hatton didn't want to find out. So he did the coward's move and ran. Ran his ass out of the division. As for the Warren thing? O' well. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Every fighter has them. Deal with them. You do business with a snake long enough eventually he's going to bite you. That's all that was happening. Warren was bit Hatton.
Your right. Collazo also came in with little preperation as well. Yet it never gets mentioned. I scored the fight a draw so I would of loved to see a rematch. Hopefully it'll happen one day
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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VD - is Hatton too English for you bro ? ;D
He beat Collazo and whilst putting in a very average performance with little preparation.
Collazo held all the cards - natural weight, belt holder, american soil...... and blew it !
I will concede he won it by a whisker - but he WON.
Furthermore - if Hatton did get it on again, he would beat him by country mile - Ricky's problem was that he couldnt get up for a fight with a guy he knew nothing about - especially given all his other stressful problems like having to fly to new york 2 weeks before to go to court because of Frank Warren then fly back to the UK again.
He is a simple human being - hell, would anyone want a 3hour airport wait, then a 7 hour flight to a case hearing across the atlantic, then fly all the way back again 2 weeks from your HBO debut?
Combined with the uncertainty that it would even go ahead (Warren tried to scupper it until the night) - it was a 'bad penny' desitned to be doomed.
But Hatton's grit pulled out the narrowest of wins.
So VD & Wacko - digest that.
Don't give me this Hatton had little time to prepare for the fight bullshit. Cuz guess what? Collazo had little time to prepare for the fight as well. And that's the reason right there why Hatton punked out of a rematch. Hell if Collazo kicked his ass with only little preparation. Imagine what he would of done with a full camp. Hatton didn't want to find out. So he did the coward's move and ran. Ran his ass out of the division. As for the Warren thing? O' well. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Every fighter has them. Deal with them. You do business with a snake long enough eventually he's going to bite you. That's all that was happening. Warren was bit Hatton.
Your right. Collazo also came in with little preperation as well. Yet it never gets mentioned. I scored the fight a draw so I would of loved to see a rematch. Hopefully it'll happen one day
I doubt Hatton ever lives up to his word and gives Collazo a rematch. After Castillo kicks his ass, what will be the point?
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
VD - is Hatton too English for you bro ? ;D
He beat Collazo and whilst putting in a very average performance with little preparation.
Collazo held all the cards - natural weight, belt holder, american soil...... and blew it !
I will concede he won it by a whisker - but he WON.
Furthermore - if Hatton did get it on again, he would beat him by country mile - Ricky's problem was that he couldnt get up for a fight with a guy he knew nothing about - especially given all his other stressful problems like having to fly to new york 2 weeks before to go to court because of Frank Warren then fly back to the UK again.
He is a simple human being - hell, would anyone want a 3hour airport wait, then a 7 hour flight to a case hearing across the atlantic, then fly all the way back again 2 weeks from your HBO debut?
Combined with the uncertainty that it would even go ahead (Warren tried to scupper it until the night) - it was a 'bad penny' desitned to be doomed.
But Hatton's grit pulled out the narrowest of wins.
So VD & Wacko - digest that.
Don't give me this Hatton had little time to prepare for the fight bullshit. Cuz guess what? Collazo had little time to prepare for the fight as well. And that's the reason right there why Hatton punked out of a rematch. Hell if Collazo kicked his a** with only little preparation. Imagine what he would of done with a full camp. Hatton didn't want to find out. So he did the coward's move and ran. Ran his a** out of the division. As for the Warren thing? O' well. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Every fighter has them. Deal with them. You do business with a snake long enough eventually he's going to bite you. That's all that was happening. Warren was bit Hatton.
Your right. Collazo also came in with little preperation as well. Yet it never gets mentioned. I scored the fight a draw so I would of loved to see a rematch. Hopefully it'll happen one day
I doubt Hatton ever lives up to his word and gives Collazo a rematch. After Castillo kicks his a**, what will be the point?
I dont think Castillo will beat Hatton mate.
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Re: if collazo does beat mosely....
no1 can beat hatton at 140
anyway who ddi flloyd fight at his first 147? correct me if im wrong but wasnt it sharmba mitchell?
loads of bollocks mate, load of bollocks, least hatton took on a credible opponent
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no1 can beat hatton at 140
anyway who ddi flloyd fight at his first 147? correct me if im wrong but wasnt it sharmba mitchell?
loads of bollocks mate, load of bollocks, least hatton took on a credible opponent
That's true. He did get chased back down but who knows if Floyd would have gotten chased back down if he fought such a tough opponent his first fight at WW.
