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Could Peter's granite chin withstand Wlad's sledgehammer right?
I am now convinced that Samuel has a granite chin. He has only been rocked once and came back quickly. I am also convinced that Wlad has the most potent straight right since Lennox Lewis. If the two intersect, what happens?
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Peter can take a couple. But to many flush ones will drop his ass
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...he took too many in the first fight...he needs to keep his head moving if he's going to be successfull vs a tall fighter
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I guess James Toney wasn't up to it this go round
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Could Peter's granite chin withstand Wlad's sledgehammer right?
Yeah. He took several them times in their first match...he can do it again.
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I'm sure that Manny and Wladdy are shiting themselves at the moment. I just wonder how many bolo punches Peter throws in route to the KO. ;D
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i hope where not basing the quality of peters chin on the toney rematch
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Originally Posted by Ted The Bull
I am now convinced that Samuel has a granite chin. He has only been rocked once and came back quickly. I am also convinced that Wlad has the most potent straight right since Lennox Lewis. If the two intersect, what happens?
He already did and had Wladdy running for cover when he saw that he saw that Peter can hurt him far easier than he can hurt Peter. Peter was walking through fire all night against Wlad. That's why it's not fair that Wlad was allowed to hold like the bitch he is.
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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
i hope where not basing the quality of peters chin on the toney rematch
I don't think so. Toney was never really able to crack at H.W. He couldn't even finish off Jirov at cruiserweight. Peter took a pounding when he fought Wlad and took almost all the punches pretty well. There was the exception of the left hook in the 11th round where he looked out on his feet, but all in all I would say that Peter has a pretty damn good beard.
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by Ted The Bull
I am now convinced that Samuel has a granite chin. He has only been rocked once and came back quickly. I am also convinced that Wlad has the most potent straight right since Lennox Lewis. If the two intersect, what happens?
He already did and had Wladdy running for cover when he saw that he saw that Peter can hurt him far easier than he can hurt Peter. Peter was walking through fire all night against Wlad. That's why it's not fair that Wlad was allowed to hold like the bitch he is.
If you going to bitch about that, than why not bitch about Peter's back of the head shots.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by Ted The Bull
I am now convinced that Samuel has a granite chin. He has only been rocked once and came back quickly. I am also convinced that Wlad has the most potent straight right since Lennox Lewis. If the two intersect, what happens?
He already did and had Wladdy running for cover when he saw that he saw that Peter can hurt him far easier than he can hurt Peter. Peter was walking through fire all night against Wlad. That's why it's not fair that Wlad was allowed to hold like the bitch he is.
If you going to bitch about that, than why not bitch about Peter's back of the head shots.
Don't tell me you are a fukin Wlad fan? What are you...GAY? :-X ;)
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by Ted The Bull
I am now convinced that Samuel has a granite chin. He has only been rocked once and came back quickly. I am also convinced that Wlad has the most potent straight right since Lennox Lewis. If the two intersect, what happens?
He already did and had Wladdy running for cover when he saw that he saw that Peter can hurt him far easier than he can hurt Peter. Peter was walking through fire all night against Wlad. That's why it's not fair that Wlad was allowed to hold like the bitch he is.
If you going to bitch about that, than why not bitch about Peter's back of the head shots.
Don't tell me you are a fukin Wlad fan? What are you...GAY? :-X ;)
I just call them like I see them. And Wlad is still the best heavyweight out there. And how is someone with a Ricardo Mayorga tattoo on his ass going to call some one gay?
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you can say wlad has a glass chin and what you will, but hr's far from a little bitch, plus calling any fighter a lil bitch is just really dum unless you box yourself or do some other type of sports combat! Jeah he's lost to far lesser man, but you know what that ain't ever stoped him from steping in there with the best, even in the sanders fight he just kept on geting up and taking more punishment, now if that is someone you call a bitch, show me the fighter that ain't. Rematch pretty much plays out like the first fight did, with wlad winning by an even bigger margin, or perhaps an even late tko. You
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Originally Posted by armin
you can say wlad has a glass chin and what you will, but hr's far from a little bitch, plus calling any fighter a lil bitch is just really dum unless you box yourself or do some other type of sports combat! Jeah he's lost to far lesser man, but you know what that ain't ever stoped him from steping in there with the best, even in the sanders fight he just kept on geting up and taking more punishment, now if that is someone you call a bitch, show me the fighter that ain't. Rematch pretty much plays out like the first fight did, with wlad winning by an even bigger margin, or perhaps an even late tko. You
Just so you know, I do fight and not for money but for rec and to stay in shape cause I love it. Trust me man, Anybody that comes into the gym I go to and doesn't come to fight is likely gonna get run out. Yes I do consider that cowardly when he is such a big man with so many advantages already to have to resort to that. He even did it against Byrd and Lederman was trying to bring up the issue when Lampley cut the power to his mic so he doesn't expose their gold mine. About a rematch, Peter would KO him if given a fair fight just like he would have the first time. You don't think Wlad is avoiding him? See if he still wants that WBC belt after Peter wins it and then get back to me.
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i dont think he cantake a sledge hammer but def take all of wlads punches
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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
i hope where not basing the quality of peters chin on the toney rematch
I don't think so. Toney was never really able to crack at H.W. He couldn't even finish off Jirov at cruiserweight. Peter took a pounding when he fought Wlad and took almost all the punches pretty well. There was the exception of the left hook in the 11th round where he looked out on his feet, but all in all I would say that Peter has a pretty damn good beard.
I think Wlad could've finished him in the 11th after that punch. If they fight again Wlad i think would win by a late stoppage.
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Alright I guess bxny you have more basis to call a fighter a bitch than most people on here, and I'm pretty sure wlad is going to rematch peter if he gets the wbc belt unless he gets king to be his promoter...still man just don't agree with calling boxers little bitches, wlad won the first with smarts and the ref obviously didn't feel the need to penalize him so why stop doing it...would you go all out with a fighter like peter?? wouldn't be a smart idea probably, the point is to win and that's by any means necessary within the rules, now if that means holding, the so be it. I'd do the same shit, now if that makes me a lil bitch, at least I'd be one winning lil bitch!
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Originally Posted by armin
Alright I guess bxny you have more basis to call a fighter a bitch than most people on here, and I'm pretty sure wlad is going to rematch peter if he gets the wbc belt unless he gets king to be his promoter...still man just don't agree with calling boxers little bitches, wlad won the first with smarts and the ref obviously didn't feel the need to penalize him so why stop doing it...would you go all out with a fighter like peter?? wouldn't be a smart idea probably, the point is to win and that's by any means necessary within the rules, now if that means holding, the so be it. I'd do the same S***, now if that makes me a lil bitch, at least I'd be one winning lil bitch!
No man, I'm just letting off steam cause I like to see what a guy can do under fair circumstances. Boxing is truly my passion and I don't want guys destroying what I love, that's all.
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it's cool man, but it's really the refs fault for allowing all that holding ya know what I'm saying, it isn't wlads. He just saw a way to win and heck the ref was cool with it, and obviously it wasn't some insanely dangerous crap like hitting a fighter on the back of the head, so wlad just did it cause he could...I've never boxed in my life, but I just have respect for anybody that steps into that ring, even though I may hate their personalities, so it just vexes me when people call them bitches...
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I think Peter can take it, but he needs to get down to 225-230 maybe 240 if he wants to catch wlad... he was simply too slow last fight.
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am i the only one that saw the fact that peter almost did the judah dance after klitschko rocked em witha left hook in the 12th??also peter send klits down 2 times because of hitting behhind the head....
Even after beating toney, i still see a very strong BUT one dimensional fighter.(peter)
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Originally Posted by armin
it's cool man, but it's really the refs fault for allowing all that holding ya know what I'm saying, it isn't wlads. He just saw a way to win and heck the ref was cool with it, and obviously it wasn't some insanely dangerous crap like hitting a fighter on the back of the head, so wlad just did it cause he could...I've never boxed in my life, but I just have respect for anybody that steps into that ring, even though I may hate their personalities, so it just vexes me when people call them bitches...
You know what, I understand what you mean and like I said, I do it cause I like it but if I was making the money Wlad makes to fight then trust me, there would me that much more fight in me. That money comes from somewhere you know, and that somewhere is our pockets so why should we get cheated.
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jeah I know, but I just think its the refs fault for allowing that crap not wlads, I mean its what the ref gets paid to do, and well we could argue he didnt do to good a effin job in that one...plus I had to defend wlad just cause he seems like a really good person doin that charity work and everything so hard to not defend him for me, but I do totally get what your saying too.
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Originally Posted by armin
jeah I know, but I just think its the refs fault for allowing that crap not wlads, I mean its what the ref gets paid to do, and well we could argue he didnt do to good a effin job in that one...plus I had to defend wlad just cause he seems like a really good person doin that charity work and everything so hard to not defend him for me, but I do totally get what your saying too.
I was a big time Wlad fan before that fight believe it or not and he just completely lost my respect. At first I gave him the benefit of the doubt but then I saw him do it against feather fisted Byrd and that was the last straw.
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Did you like Lennox Lewis or Ali??? They did the same thing, But atleast he doesn't do it as much as Ruiz.
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I think a lot of it has to do with many being his trainer, cause he used to sometimes just go all out n crap, but that got him ktfo 2 times(dont really count the purity one), now whether it was to chin or stamina is irrelevant, because the style he's fighting now is a much more "protective" one. I actually enjoyed the byrd fight and the brock fight...
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but I'm out for the night, probably not gonna get my dam butt outa bed as it is, nice discussing with ya man
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Originally Posted by CrackJawof74
Did you like Lennox Lewis or Ali??? They did the same thing, But atleast he doesn't do it as much as Ruiz.
No I didn't like Ali's fighting style though I respect his toughness and commitment to greatness. Lennox didn't really hold but he did push down on his opponents back alot and that takes plenty out of a fighter trust me. Especially from a guy his size but yeah I actually did like Lennox even when nobody else did. I remember being the only guy in the room rooting for him when I got together with my friends on fight night.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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I guess James Toney wasn't up to it this go round
wow - clean punches from a 240pound boxer! and still standing
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Originally Posted by plinden
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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I guess James Toney wasn't up to it this go round
wow - clean punches from a 240pound boxer! and still standing
I know man. That's the reason I don't understand all the disrespect directed at him.
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by CrackJawof74
Did you like Lennox Lewis or Ali??? They did the same thing, But atleast he doesn't do it as much as Ruiz.
No I didn't like Ali's fighting style though I respect his toughness and commitment to greatness. Lennox didn't really hold but he did push down on his opponents back alot and that takes plenty out of a fighter trust me. Especially from a guy his size but yeah I actually did like Lennox even when nobody else did. I remember being the only guy in the room rooting for him when I got together with my friends on fight night.
Ask Michael Grant if he thinks he got a fair shake vs Lennox Lewis
All of this style that Wlad has developed is thanks to Manny and it makes Wlad less vulnerable to losing....is that so wrong?
Wlad would have beat Chris Byrd had he held him or not...it ain't like Chris was throwing a ton of punches anyways
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by armin
jeah I know, but I just think its the refs fault for allowing that crap not wlads, I mean its what the ref gets paid to do, and well we could argue he didnt do to good a effin job in that one...plus I had to defend wlad just cause he seems like a really good person doin that charity work and everything so hard to not defend him for me, but I do totally get what your saying too.
I was a big time Wlad fan before that fight believe it or not and he just completely lost my respect. At first I gave him the benefit of the doubt but then I saw him do it against feather fisted Byrd and that was the last straw.
So how do you feel about punching behind the head? you like that huh lol
You respect that?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by CrackJawof74
Did you like Lennox Lewis or Ali??? They did the same thing, But atleast he doesn't do it as much as Ruiz.
No I didn't like Ali's fighting style though I respect his toughness and commitment to greatness. Lennox didn't really hold but he did push down on his opponents back alot and that takes plenty out of a fighter trust me. Especially from a guy his size but yeah I actually did like Lennox even when nobody else did. I remember being the only guy in the room rooting for him when I got together with my friends on fight night.
Ask Michael Grant if he thinks he got a fair shake vs Lennox Lewis
All of this style that Wlad has developed is thanks to Manny and it makes Wlad less vulnerable to losing....is that so wrong?
Wlad would have beat Chris Byrd had he held him or not...it ain't like Chris was throwing a ton of punches anyways
My point exactly. We all know what the outcome of the Byrd fight would have been so why cheat.
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bey BX can i ask again
So how do you feel about punching behind the head? you like that huh lol
You respect that?
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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce
bey BX can i ask again
So how do you feel about punching behind the head? you like that huh lol
You respect that?
Looks like BX is scared to answer the question
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce
bey BX can i ask again
So how do you feel about punching behind the head? you like that huh lol
You respect that?
Looks like BX is scared to answer the question
I've said this like a million times that's why. If Wlad is that scared to get punched in his face that he turns his head that's not necessarily Peters fault. Think about that.
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Wladimir never landed one of his best right hands on Peter in the first fight.I am not sure if one of his punches could put him down but a good combo would.
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce
bey BX can i ask again
So how do you feel about punching behind the head? you like that huh lol
You respect that?
Looks like BX is scared to answer the question
I've said this like a million times that's why. If Wlad is that scared to get punched in his face that he turns his head that's not necessarily Peters fault. Think about that.
Tru dat
