Brits Who Hate Us

http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_head...name_page.html

Article from the people.co.uk website regarding increasing extremism going on in the UK.

it would be interesting to hear from my Brit bros as to what they think about this?

in your opinion, does this movement threaten the UK? Is it just a small fringe group that you should not concern yourself with?

Since you live there, have you seen a surge of extremism there?

In the US, the muslims that I have met are good people who have assimilated into mainstream society. They are actually very warm and friendly. In the UK though, from my perspective, the muslim population seems to have isolated themselves. Am I wrong to assume this?

btw

I have never heard of this paper.....

is it a tabloid that you all are so famous for?

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Originally Posted by Mad_Dog

http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_head...name_page.html

Article from the people.co.uk website regarding increasing extremism going on in the UK.

it would be interesting to hear from my Brit bros as to what they think about this?

in your opinion, does this movement threaten the UK? Is it just a small fringe group that you should not concern yourself with?

Since you live there, have you seen a surge of extremism there?

In the US, the muslims that I have met are good people who have assimilated into mainstream society. They are actually very warm and friendly. In the UK though, from my perspective, the muslim population seems to have isolated themselves. Am I wrong to assume this?

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I don't know what part of the country you live in but it's not the same in all parts. Over here in the east they have isolated themselves, but you are not really talking about Muslims you are talking about Arabs who happen to be Muslims. The only Muslims who have worked themselves into everyday society are non Arab. The Arabs have isolated themselves in Florida and they have been the reciepents of plenty of hate from Aryans, Jews, and Latinos that live in our community. They are alway's on the defensive, not just in the UK.

what is an Aryan?

As far as I know they have not been around for over 2000 years. Did you mean Iranian?

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Originally Posted by Mad_Dog

what is an Aryan?

As far as I know they have not been around for over 2000 years. Did you mean Iranian?

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An Aryan is a white person, nordic, Caucasion not an Iranian those are Persions. Just like Blacks are Nubian, Lations are Hispanics or Mestisos, Asians are Orientals, sorry to go in such detail but you may remember Hitler history when he would alway's talk about the Aryan master race, or you may see specials on jail life where the white population will have gangs called the Aryan nation.

CBA to click the link.

Hope this helps :)

I'm not sure Aryan really exists. I mean Hitler used the term over and over again to assume the so-called purity of the Germans right???
Sounds like the 12 tribes of Abraham stuff.

yes it's a tabloid.
It sounds like it's ripped from a channel4 show - Dispatches, that does a bit more undercover type investigations.

Y'have to remember we are looking at fundamentalists, just like you get white/christian nutters who think black/white shouldn't mix...I've also heard black people say that.

what winds people up is that they are using our laws on free speech to promote something that would take free speech away, then you get the whole if you don't like it here move somewhere else. It's complicated my MexiCanadian friend.

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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber

An Aryan is a white person, nordic, Caucasion not an Iranian those are Persions. Just like Blacks are Nubian, Lations are Hispanics or Mestisos, Asians are Orientals, sorry to go in such detail but you may remember Hitler history when he would alway's talk about the Aryan master race, or you may see specials on jail life where the white population will have gangs called the Aryan nation.

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An 'Aryan' today means a white causasian and has been hijacked by the right wing.

Ironically, the real Aryans were a tribe within the Medes nation of northern Persia. They were conquered by Cyrus the Great and assimilated into the great Persian Empire of antiquity. Ironically, the word 'caucasion' also refers to them as they came from the region of the Caucasas mountain in central Asia. It is very doubtful if they were blond haired and blue eyed Nordic people!!!

Quite funny really, when a Neo-Nazi proudly refers to himself as a pure Aryan .... they are actually claiming a mongrel heritage from the Steppe Mongolians, the Uzbeks and the Iranians.

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I think there is a problem in the UK.

This is true to the extent that I was in Oman a few months ago and my cab driver commented that 'You English are crazy, you have Muslims in England who want to fight against their own country. Why do you all want to fight someone?' This was from a proper Arab guy who supposedly lives in a country full of fundamentalists. Most Muslims in these Arab countries feel free to follow their own religion but would not agree with imposing it upon others.

The problem we have in the UK is a small minority of people have decided that they want to impose their beliefs on the majority and want to have a row and feel aggrieved about it. The classic example is the argument over whether wearing the Veil should be allowed in schools etc.

I have an idea that the problem we have is not essentially a RELIGIOUS one, or Even a racial or national identity issue. It is a socio-economic one ......... the people who are making all the hate and becoming radicalised in the UK are from the poorest sections and areas of our society. People of Pakistani origin tend to be in the less wealthy sector than people of Indian origin (for example), that's why we don't see Hindu suicide bombers etc. We don't have Kuwaiti or Quatari radicals, they are from Syria, Pakistan or even parts of the Caribbean.

The media and tabloid newspapers like the People, with their ricicilous populist reporting, fan the flames of antagonism and are one of the reasons whay people in the UK are generally unhappier than in other places. Those papers only exist to make people unhappy, worried or angry.

That's the UK only ...... I know that much of Al-Quaeda is formed of rich Saudias, so I don't believe it holds through as a world theory - but it does explain some of Britain's problem.

Incidentally, think how worrying a Hindu suicide bomber would be. I'm nervous about getting into a taxi with anyone who believes they will be reincarnated anyway, no matter what happens ;D

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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber

An Aryan is a white person, nordic, Caucasion not an Iranian those are Persions. Just like Blacks are Nubian, Lations are Hispanics or Mestisos, Asians are Orientals, sorry to go in such detail but you may remember Hitler history when he would alway's talk about the Aryan master race, or you may see specials on jail life where the white population will have gangs called the Aryan nation.

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An 'Aryan' today means a white causasian and has been hijacked by the right wing.

Ironically, the real Aryans were a tribe within the Medes nation of northern Persia. They were conquered by Cyrus the Great and assimilated into the great Persian Empire of antiquity. Ironically, the word 'caucasion' also refers to them as they came from the region of the Caucasas mountain in central Asia. It is very doubtful if they were blond haired and blue eyed Nordic people!!!

Quite funny really, when a Neo-Nazi proudly refers to himself as a pure Aryan .... they are actually claiming a mongrel heritage from the Steppe Mongolians, the Uzbeks and the Iranians.

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You are a monster when it comes to knowledge. I don't alway's agree with you (WW2 theory) but your post teach me alot, you must be a professor or some kind of teacher. Good shit, you just went into more detail than I could have ever went into.

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Originally Posted by Mad_Dog

http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_head...name_page.html

Article from the people.co.uk website regarding increasing extremism going on in the UK.

it would be interesting to hear from my Brit bros as to what they think about this?

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The people is a well known sunday paper.

Honestly, this wouldn't come as a suprise to most brits Muslim or not.

the majority of Muslims are like us, just have diffrent beliefs. what shocks me is tho, how these idiots act, they make out as if they have such a hard life here its a fucking joke. This country is a fucking joke...

Last Christmas; more than one town BANNED Christmas, they renamed Christmas lights to "festive lights" they banned Santa clause in shops etc FFS (what you done in your own house was up to you) they had lights etc but they were all to be called 'festive lights/tress...'

An old lady who had collected porcelain pigs and had them showing on her windows was ordered to move them out of site as they 'offended' the Muslims who seen them!

Alton Towers (one of the biggest theme parks in the UK) a couple had booked to have their honeymoon there (god knows why but they did) they had booked the hotel in the park, friends and family were going. some time later they had a letter from the people at Alton Tower informing them that due to some clerical error they had booked their time there on a "Muslim weekend" A Muslim weekend there means women have to wear cloths covering the knees down, covering the shoulders, all rides were to be seregate (all male all female no intergender ride sharing) BUT the gracious Muslim leader of the event would allow the newlyweds to enter the park providing they abide by the rules...

Can anyone tell me one other country apart from this ass backwards one where Muslims get so much rights? they have it fucking easy here! Can you imagine going to Mecca and because your a birt wearing a short skirt and a tube top in their searing heat? fuck me they would stone you on the spot, but Muslims can go anywhere they want and wear what they want.

I really have no problem with any creed, colour, religion or sexuality for that matter. But one thing i always believed in is if you go to a chosen country, you abide by their rules. The uk is/was a Christan country, personally i have no religion, don't believe in it, it pisses me off to be perfectly honest, but the UK is a Christan nation. When these Muslims and what-nots try to change thing imo they should be told like it or go somewhere else. No way would and Muslim country ever change to make Christians feel welcome.

The sad thing is though, from ready what i have written so far it misleads you to believe allot of Muslims are like this, when the fact is they in large hate these changes as much as we do, as it will fuel hatred and racism. There was something printed a few years ago, where as business owners could be liable for a law suit for having Christianity symbols in their work place..

Say you owned a law firm, and you were a devout Christian, you had say Jesus on a cross in your office, or the statue of a the virgin marry. If you had a Muslim working there they could claim legal damages for having to look at these items. The sad thing is though, that this was done purly by the government being assholes, Jews and Muslims where coming out and saying that this was stupid and trying to distance them selves from this fearing the repercussions.

In general i have nothing against the Muslims, most seem to lead a life of their own beliefs and keep them selves to them selves, and as long as they don't try to impose their beliefs on anyone else, who really cares? its just the minority who like spoiled children, have been given so much, don't appreciate it and wont so much more.

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Originally Posted by Mad_Dog

in your opinion, does this movement threaten the UK? Is it just a small fringe group that you should not concern yourself with?

Since you live there, have you seen a surge of extremism there?

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Its only in major city's, people who use allot of public transport who if anyone would worry. Our intelligence are in fairness pretty spot on and have stopped numerous attempts of 'terrorism' since the bombings back in July 05. -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings

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Originally Posted by Mad_Dog

In the US, the Muslims that I have met are good people who have assimilated into mainstream society. They are actually very warm and friendly. In the UK though, from my perspective, the Muslim population seems to have isolated themselves. Am I wrong to assume this?

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Muslims see to do their own thing mainly down to one of their biggest beliefs of not drinking. They only alcohol they can drink is mead, and goodluck finding that at your local. Most people seem to socialise at a pub, club - somewhere where you can get rat ass'd lol but they can't

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An Aryan is a white person, nordic, Caucasion not an Iranian those are Persions. Just like Blacks are Nubian, Lations are Hispanics or Mestisos, Asians are Orientals, sorry to go in such detail but you may remember Hitler history when he would alway's talk about the Aryan master race, or you may see specials on jail life where the white population will have gangs called the Aryan nation.

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An 'Aryan' today means a white causasian and has been hijacked by the right wing.

Ironically, the real Aryans were a tribe within the Medes nation of northern Persia. They were conquered by Cyrus the Great and assimilated into the great Persian Empire of antiquity. Ironically, the word 'caucasion' also refers to them as they came from the region of the Caucasas mountain in central Asia. It is very doubtful if they were blond haired and blue eyed Nordic people!!!

Quite funny really, when a Neo-Nazi proudly refers to himself as a pure Aryan .... they are actually claiming a mongrel heritage from the Steppe Mongolians, the Uzbeks and the Iranians.

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You are a monster when it comes to knowledge. I don't alway's agree with you (WW2 theory) but your post teach me alot, you must be a professor or some kind of teacher. Good S***, you just went into more detail than I could have ever went into.

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Thanks mate, but you flatter me. I just happen to know stuff that someone somewhere sometimes finds interesting. I am also full of shite banter to amuse myself and everyone else when nobody really wants me to spout off. :-[

I am not a teacher or professor or any shit like that.

"Those that can, do. Those that can't ......... teach" ;D

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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber

An Aryan is a white person, nordic, Caucasion not an Iranian those are Persions. Just like Blacks are Nubian, Lations are Hispanics or Mestisos, Asians are Orientals, sorry to go in such detail but you may remember Hitler history when he would alway's talk about the Aryan master race, or you may see specials on jail life where the white population will have gangs called the Aryan nation.

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An 'Aryan' today means a white causasian and has been hijacked by the right wing.

Ironically, the real Aryans were a tribe within the Medes nation of northern Persia. They were conquered by Cyrus the Great and assimilated into the great Persian Empire of antiquity. Ironically, the word 'caucasion' also refers to them as they came from the region of the Caucasas mountain in central Asia. It is very doubtful if they were blond haired and blue eyed Nordic people!!!

Quite funny really, when a Neo-Nazi proudly refers to himself as a pure Aryan .... they are actually claiming a mongrel heritage from the Steppe Mongolians, the Uzbeks and the Iranians.

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You are a monster when it comes to knowledge. I don't alway's agree with you (WW2 theory) but your post teach me alot, you must be a professor or some kind of teacher. Good S***, you just went into more detail than I could have ever went into.

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Thanks mate, but you flatter me. I just happen to know stuff that someone somewhere sometimes finds interesting. I am also full of shite banter to amuse myself and everyone else when nobody really wants me to spout off. :-[

I am not a teacher or professor or any S*** like that.

"Those that can, do. Those that can't ......... teach" ;D

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come on now X just admit it, you know how to use Google ;D

Ha ha - there have been a couple of occasions when I have used Google (I did to find out who the boxers were on the malcolm in the Middle clip), but not this time !!

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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber

An Aryan is a white person, nordic, Caucasion not an Iranian those are Persions. Just like Blacks are Nubian, Lations are Hispanics or Mestisos, Asians are Orientals, sorry to go in such detail but you may remember Hitler history when he would alway's talk about the Aryan master race, or you may see specials on jail life where the white population will have gangs called the Aryan nation.

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An 'Aryan' today means a white causasian and has been hijacked by the right wing.

Ironically, the real Aryans were a tribe within the Medes nation of northern Persia. They were conquered by Cyrus the Great and assimilated into the great Persian Empire of antiquity. Ironically, the word 'caucasion' also refers to them as they came from the region of the Caucasas mountain in central Asia. It is very doubtful if they were blond haired and blue eyed Nordic people!!!

Quite funny really, when a Neo-Nazi proudly refers to himself as a pure Aryan .... they are actually claiming a mongrel heritage from the Steppe Mongolians, the Uzbeks and the Iranians.

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You are a monster when it comes to knowledge. I don't alway's agree with you (WW2 theory) but your post teach me alot, you must be a professor or some kind of teacher. Good S***, you just went into more detail than I could have ever went into.

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Thanks mate, but you flatter me. I just happen to know stuff that someone somewhere sometimes finds interesting. I am also full of shite banter to amuse myself and everyone else when nobody really wants me to spout off. :-[

I am not a teacher or professor or any S*** like that.

"Those that can, do. Those that can't ......... teach" ;D

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A p.e. teacher once told me "those who can't teach.........teach gym." ha ha

so Muslims in your country get prefential treatment?

let's just say I went to a muslim business establishment in the UK and I saw something there that offended me. would the municipal govt back me in forcing the muslim establishment to remove the offending item?

I guess I am asking because it seems that there is only one-way enforcement there from what was written in previous posts.

interesting stuff guys and gals, thanks for the response

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Originally Posted by Mad_Dog

so Muslims in your country get prefential treatment?

let's just say I went to a muslim business establishment in the UK and I saw something there that offended me. would the municipal govt back me in forcing the muslim establishment to remove the offending item?

I guess I am asking because it seems that there is only one-way enforcement there from what was written in previous posts.

interesting stuff guys and gals, thanks for the response

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I'm 25 and lived in Bradford, West Yorkshire (England) for 23 years, I now live in South England near london. My family still live there and I go up to visit all the time. In answer to one of your questions "Muslims in your country get prefential treatment?" thats a big fat YES. We can't even put the England flag up during the world cup because it offends the asian people. Imagine if you were told not to fly the Stars and stripes in case you offended anyone?

Only in Britain.........land of the soft shites.

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Only in Britain.........land of the soft shites.

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Its called guilty conscience... But i dont want to get into that now right now.

I don’t know what the big deal is anyway. If The white English Majority made enough noise, (instead of just bending over and taking it up the arse while we leave it to our tabloid newspapers to antagonise us and circulate poxy fukkin partitions) we'd put the government, the councillors and these committees in such a predicament that all they could do is be blatantly anti-English/ C.O.E

Just do what you want, power to the people and all that :britain: :britain:

I think the thing is... capitalist government is always scared of offending the minority. I'm not going to go into detail, Preme laid it out pretty well. The only problem I have is when I hear people say minorities get preferential treatment. Eh...not so sure about that one. Maybe minority leaders get the eggshell treatment but day to day life for average minorities in America at the very least is no way easier then it is for me. The preferential treatment Jesse Jackson or Obama gets in Washington isn't the same type of treatment Maurice is getting at 7-11 in California but I think people tend to see it that way.

Obviously it's probably not the same in England with Muslims but I seriously doubt that your average day to day Muslim gives a damn if a town's lights are called Christmas lights or not. I think it's more of a case that one Muslim decided to nitpick away and the government cowered away from defending Christmas so it got changed to "festive" in order to keep from angering a minority. Racism in America is a word not taken to lightly. Probably the same in England and because the government is overcautious and even paranoid about keeping Muslims happy even though the majority of Muslims probably don't give a damn.

Although that theme park story is just bizarre.

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so Muslims in your country get prefential treatment?

let's just say I went to a muslim business establishment in the UK and I saw something there that offended me. would the municipal govt back me in forcing the muslim establishment to remove the offending item?

I guess I am asking because it seems that there is only one-way enforcement there from what was written in previous posts.

interesting stuff guys and gals, thanks for the response

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yes they do (most other cultures do tbh)

No could we fuck, the dip shits who run this countyr are so scared of offending muslims, and all the others, yet cudn't give a rats ass about the rest of us lol

your asking coz ur totaly shocked how ass backards the uk reall is:p

This is called 'Great britan' the only great thing this place is, is a great big pussy waiting to get fucked!

Once again alot of you guy's are mistaken a Muslim and an Arab. Yes 99% of Arabs are Muslim but there are other Muslims out there that are non-arab the have taken the religion of Islam. I have friends that have done this that are not arab and they are just like me, we have the same likes and dislikes and the same taste in many different categories. They have the same culture just a different belief in the spirtual world. You guy's are talking about Arabs who have a totally different culture and do things differently, they have a different way of living thier lives. They will have many things that will offend us in our way of life in the west and they know it. There is a difference between them and us and you guy's have to realize the differential, it is not Islam, it is Arabia.

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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber

Once again alot of you guy's are mistaken a Muslim and an Arab. Yes 99% of Arabs are Muslim but there are other Muslims out there that are non-arab the have taken the religion of Islam. I have friends that have done this that are not arab and they are just like me, we have the same likes and dislikes and the same taste in many different categories. They have the same culture just a different belief in the spirtual world. You guy's are talking about Arabs who have a totally different culture and do things differently, they have a different way of living thier lives. They will have many things that will offend us in our way of life in the west and they know it. There is a difference between them and us and you guy's have to realize the differential, it is not Islam, it is Arabia.

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Great post.

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Have a cc.

(It's the same about when people talk about black people ....... what does that mean. Is is an Ethiopian, a Tanzanian, a Congolese, an American, a Sri Lankan or what because each is totally different.)

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Ha ha - there have been a couple of occasions when I have used Google (I did to find out who the boxers were on the malcolm in the Middle clip), but not this time !!

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well, who the hell were they:P? and the ref, hes the one who got sparked out^^

used to be proud to be british a few years ago! how fkn stuppid am I >:mad

Oi some dogs still have teeth ;) :britain: