http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=6501
Some very worrying news indeed IMO. Sounds like Greenberg and co. just couldn't stop it.
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http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=6501
Some very worrying news indeed IMO. Sounds like Greenberg and co. just couldn't stop it.
UFC is by far the more marketable sport out of the two as it is actually offering what the New-Gen wanna see.
As far as PPV goes... I really cant say, im not the worlds brightest business man but i can only see numbers dropping all over the place.... Like a scence out of the matrix!
I don't watch UFC but I'm all for it if they use the boxing commentators. I'd love to see Merchant call one of these things.
Or hear Steward say, "See that choke hold he's using? He learned that during his solid amateur background."
Showtime will be replacing boxing as well. Check this out.
http://www.sho.com/site/exc/home.do?source=shocom_nav
:-X
The more i watch of the ufc, the more i get into it but I'm still boxing first. If hbo are now going to start showing the UFC, what i hope is boxing my revert back to its old and "prestigious" ways of having the best fight the best, the fights the fans want to see with ONE champion.
Thats the two things the UFC has that boxing doesn't right now. No joke fights, no calzaghe v manfredo, Taylor v oumas, no established champions fighting contenders, no champion taking an easy night off, there have been so many joke fights in boxing of the last few years is shocking. no wbc, ibf wba wbo champions, just one champion - HBO have massive influence on boxing, and if they see why the ufc is so successfull, it could help out the current bad state of boxing.. either that or they will screw the UFC up.
Perhaps Boxing will wake up and smell the coffee and realise that people are sick of seeing politics ruin every decent match-up.
The UFC has a winning formula because the fighters get contracted to do more than one fight.
THe best in each division regularly fight each other and don;t do any ducking like what happens in Boxing.
Ultimately Boxing has been destroying itself with the amount of Synthetic titles it has produced.
The best way to save Boxing would be to have just ONE recognised belt.
A Boxers union should be set up where fighters all agree to be loyal to one single code like the UFC.
This probably won't happen so no doubt due to Greed the sport will continue to decline.
And UFC will grow in popularity due to better value for money.
The more ufc i watch and how the fights end when one guy just throws highly inaccurate punches til the ref calls it off, the more i wanna punch a baby.
Thats what happens when a Boxing Fan watches UFC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher136
Any casual fan of fighting in general loves it.
I think both HBO and Showtime are adding more boxing matches this year ? , in addition they adding this MMA for Friday nights ! I think this could actually help boxing.. boxing fans could give two shits about mma... but I feel that those young mma fans could get into the boxing game, those who have never really watch boxing before. . just my feeling.
It'll be interesting to see just how many boxing commercials and promos HBO will run during the UFC cards. I would assume they'll run a ton. Nothing to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
In 2006, HBO engendered 3,700,000 pay-per view buys with $177,000,000 in gross sales
Boxing is here to stay my friends ! any corporate executive that would mess with that number would soon find themselves on the unemployment line. O0
this is an interesting article, goes more in depth to the business of all this
http://secondsout.com/USA/news.cfm?ccs=229&cs=21089
i like this quote from the article
http://secondsout.com/USA/news.cfm?ccs=229&cs=21089
"There aren't many great fighters today, but that doesn't mean there can't be great fights. Matchmaking is an art, not a science. Fights don't always turn out the way they look on paper, but HBO is more likely to have great fights if it starts out with match-ups that are great to begin with.
Here, it should be noted that styles make fights. And one doesn't learn styles by looking up records on Boxrec.com. Micky Ward had 13 losses in 51 fights. Arturo Gatti has been beaten eight times. But they gave HBO wonderful action, and not just against each other. Good fights make more good fights. And great fights create stars.
HBO calls itself "the heart and soul of boxing." It should act like it and tell promoters, "Don't bring us fights that aren't quality fights." It should tell fighters who won't go in tough, "Make your name somewhere else and come to us when you're ready to fight in a competitive fight." Regardless of what happens "
Then Greenburg adds words that are music to the ears, saying, "We're going to invigorate Boxing After Dark by loosening our commitments to promoters. Our last commitment is in June and, after that, we're going to abandon the practice of giving dates to promoters without specific fights attached. It has cramped our style and it just hasn't worked. We'll also dig our feet in a little more on mismatches and not give in to promoters, managers, and fighters who don't want to take a risk." O0
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Now that’s what I am talking about ! Balls to the walls approach... all these soft cakes and mismatches are fucking up boxing. I been preaching all along, that it matchmaking ! you get the right guys in there and you got a fucking fight ! Take the feather dusters out of the game unless they want in tough ! O0
CC bro, interesting readQuote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
my pleasure brother.. CC back at yeah ! O0Quote:
Originally Posted by Preme
Boxings been on it's deathbed for as long as I can remember. Yet it never dies. That's cuz it can't die. I ain't worried about this UFC shit. Boxing ain't going anywhere.
u need to watch pride ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher136
ufc is like 97% amatuer guys who wouldnt be much good after 10 years as a pro anyway, you need to watch pride, the jobbers from pride could come to ufc and be champs
As much as i despise mma in its entirety i can stand watching a couple pride matches here and there if there's nothing else on tv. I still don't want mma to be a dominating sport money making wise, but if it must be shown on tv i would perfer them show pride than ufc.
I think boxing would improve if people just quit settling for less. Mayweather/ de la hoya is what the sport needs. Might be boring, might not be but it is without a doubt one of the best matchups available for the sport. They need to quit chasing history by taking the easy route.
Boxing isn't about money, it's about making other people shut up. It's about proving critics wrong by taking the high road regardless of money. One big fight will net you 1mil+. Now i don't know about anyone else but 1mil would easily supply a comfortable living environment for me. There's no need to get shiny wheels or exspensive shoes when they are gonna come incontact with dirty surfaces 99% of the time they are in use.
That's why I like the lower weight classes, you don't see those guys on MTV cribs, but they sure as hell don't duck each other. (WONGJONKAM is the exception ;) )Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher136
Indeed they are probably the best skilled athletes in the sport come from dirt poor backgrounds and fight for everything they get but because they aren't over eating they don't get noticed.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
some of the pride guys are coming to UFC. Crocop is fighting a UFC fight in Feb., and he might be the best they have to offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
Butterbean fights in Pride now, just so you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
hey i still think all mma is a joke but atleast pride fights are manageable to watch because i don't have to hear joe rogan praise some bum when he wins a fight in a garbage way.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Piss on UFC. I really don't think these guys are as talented as boxers. I think it is an inferior sport. I hate it and hope they all try a real hobby. My friends watch UFC, and to be frank I am friends with immature people with a short attention span who don't appreciate boxing. They also don't appreciate reading either.
I only buy Showtime and HBO to see fights. The day they cut back seriously on boxing they will lose a customer and I don't think I am the only one. They charge way to much to show the same fucking shows over and over.
I said this was gonna happened but the problem is that SHOWTIME like HBO will make the same dammage they did to boxing because the only fights they are going to show are the one they say it's not gonna be like now that everyone fights everyone.
O ther stuff I notice is tha boxers aroun their 30's and don't se any $$$ soon in their life are turning into MMA. there is gonna be some woop ass in there unless they start the huggin in the ground
" brokeback wrestling" :o
cc Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
Which is why HBO just did a VERY STUPID MOVE on it's part. Just when it practically had a monopoly on big fights. Pacquiao, Mayweather, Wladimir, Mosley, Barrera and much more.